2015/08/17/#kubuntu-devel.txt

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[05:30] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:25] <soee> good morning
[06:27] <lordievader> o/
[06:35] <ovidiu-florin> https://plus.google.com/u/0/103317747728601767381/posts/ZgNp2ZSHiLL
[07:32] <sitter> wgrant: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable/+build/7806756 this build seems defunct. it started 5 hours ago and is still apt-get updating apparently
[07:39] <wgrant> sitter: Hm, worrying. I'd suggest you cancel and retry it.,
[07:40] <sitter> wgrant: ok, just wanted to let you know in case you want to do some live debugging ^^
[07:40] <wgrant> If it doesn't happen again, I'm happy enough to blame cosmic rays!
[07:41] <sitter> xD
[08:14] <soee> someone please: what was the command to do release upgrade to development vcersion ? 
[08:14] <lordievader> soee: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[08:14] <soee> lordievader: thank you
[08:14] <lordievader> ;)
[08:16] <soee> woho needs to townload 1061 M :)
[08:24] <sitter> ScottK: https://code.launchpad.net/~apachelogger/kubuntu-packaging/pykde4-no-kdepimlibs/+merge/268193
[08:31] <sitter> yofel: FWIW that dolphin port is no good, kf5 ports at the very least need their pkg-kde include in rules bumped from 2 to 3
[08:32] <sitter> otherwise plugin paths will be screwed
[08:32] <sitter> ah nvermind
[08:32] <sitter> yofel: jon's done that
[08:32]  * sitter wonders why that repo is not forked from kdebaseapps
[08:32] <yofel> thanks for reminding me about that though, I think I forgot to switch that in marble
[08:37] <sitter> I uploaded a pykde4 that is supposed to transition away from kdepimlibs to  the stage
[09:33] <soee> uh oh, Wily wants to remove: kubuntu-desktop libkexiv2-11 okular
[09:41] <clivejo> Riddell sgclark shadeslayer_ yofel : could someone apply my patch and restart dolphin-plugin please?
[09:54] <clivejo> is it a holiday today?
[11:28] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:40] <BluesKaj> major upgrade in Wily this morning , 235 packages ..aha feature freeze on thurs then bata1 on thurs next week
[11:41] <BluesKaj> beta1 even
[11:47] <mparillo> Based on the package versions it looks like LO 4.4
[11:47] <mparillo> I will upgrade and check
[11:47]  * lordievader goes to update his Wily box
[11:48] <mparillo> Please share if it does not easily shut down after the upgrade.
[11:57] <mparillo> I had to sudo poweroff since the Leave > Shut down did not work. Libre Office seems to be at 4.4.4.3 for me, and the menu highlighting works again. And KInfocenter reports Plasma as 5.3.95.
[11:58] <mparillo> Though it did seem to lose my krunner history.
[12:03] <lordievader> Hmm, reboot doesn't give the dialog...
[12:06] <clivejo> anyone working on apps 15.07,90?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> ok ,clicking on leave enables logout to appear after rebooting
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[12:37] <soee> wily: libstreamanalyzer0 : Depends: libclucene-core1 (>= 2.3.3.4) but it is not installable
[12:38] <lordievader> BluesKaj: After a reboot the shutdown dialog appears here too.
[12:42] <yofel> meh, if FF is on thursday, we should get applications done by tomorrow :/
[12:43] <sitter> yofel: fix all the red and upload ;)
[12:43] <yofel> will do once I'm not at work anymore...
[12:43] <sitter> pim should be good soon
[12:44] <sitter> if building didn't take ages that is ^^
[12:44] <yofel> can you look at marble? It's failing with a vtable link error, and I'm not sure which dep is broken..
[12:45] <BluesKaj> no dependency problem with libclucene-core1 on Wily here soee It's the "core library for full-featured text search engine (runtime)"
[12:45] <yofel> it's probably something in frameworks, because qtonly marble built fine
[12:46] <sitter> yofel: looks like missing link dep TBH
[12:47] <yofel> okaay? But shouldn't vtable symbols be at least resolved to a dummy one if nothing overrides it?
[12:47]  * yofel needs to read up on vtables again
[12:49] <sitter> looking
[12:53] <sitter> interestingly enough it links fine locally
[12:54] <clivejo> hi sitter
[12:54] <jussi> gday 
[12:54] <sitter> clivejo: hey
[12:54] <sitter> jussi: gday mate
[12:54] <jussi> long time no speak
[12:55] <lordievader> Hey jussi, how are you?
[12:55] <clivejo> any ideas why kmailtransport is failing?
[12:55] <jussi> Im alive :) 
[12:55] <sitter> clivejo: it's not
[12:55] <sitter> clivejo: you can pretty much ignore all of pim
[12:56] <sitter> rapidly iterating that stuff is
[12:56] <clivejo> oh, you fixed it
[13:01] <ahoneybun> o/ jussi
[13:01] <jussi> hi ahoneybun
[13:04] <sitter> yofel: were you able to reproduce this locally?
[13:04] <yofel> yes
[13:04] <yofel> at least yesterday
[13:05] <yofel> wily chroot with proposed + ppa + frameworks ppa
[13:06] <sitter> gonna check there
[13:06] <sitter> I think it is missing a moc include somewhere
[13:06] <sitter> factory should be a qobject so the vtable issue would be from the metaobject not being available 
[13:08] <yofel> maybe I should try to build 15.08.0 instead..
[13:09] <sitter> https://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma4/AbstractRunner#The_Plugin_Declaration_Macro
[13:09] <sitter> yofel: no relevant change to that extent in git
[13:09] <yofel> k
[13:09] <sitter> #include "main.moc" might solve it
[13:10] <soee> BluesKaj: are you on master server ?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> soee:  master server ?
[13:11] <sitter>  /home/me/src/git/k/marble/src/plasmarunner/main.cpp:20:20: fatal error: main.moc: No such file or directory
[13:11] <sitter> pft
[13:11] <soee> BluesKaj: yeah, what server you have set for updates 
[13:13] <BluesKaj> U of Waterloo here in Canada, not using the UK server if that's what you mean, soee
[13:14] <sitter> rdieter_work: you are not having link problems with marble?
[13:14] <sitter> /«PKGBUILDDIR»/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/src/plasmarunner/../../../src/plasmarunner/main.cpp:18: undefined reference to `vtable for factory'
[13:14] <sitter> CMakeFiles/plasma_runner_marble.dir/main.cpp.o: In function `factory::~factory()':
[13:14] <soee> BluesKaj: ok than you might recieve update later than when using master, so the problems i report might show for you later
[13:14] <sitter> yofel: I have a diff that should fix it ... what puzzles me though is why it succeeds in a local build, so I am rather feeling like maybe something in frameworks master fixed this
[13:15] <yofel> :/
[13:15] <sitter> anyway, trying in a container
[13:16] <rdieter_work> sitter: no problems here
[13:16] <sitter> makes it even weird then. thanks :)
[13:17] <doko> sitter, you may have noticed that -release got some updates last night. please yell if something broke
[13:17] <sitter> aye
[13:17] <clivejo> anything simple you want me to work on?
[13:18] <sitter> d_ed: btw is it a known defect that after just about any change to workspace shutdown via kickoff will not work?
[13:18] <sitter> clivejo: random orange-ness on apps15.08 or CI would be a possiblity
[13:19] <sitter> so longa as it's not a pim thing that is orange (see list at the bottom of the 15.08 notes)
[13:20] <d_ed> sitter: no...
[13:20] <sitter> uff
[13:20] <sitter> [13:57] <mparillo> I had to sudo poweroff since the Leave > Shut down did not work. Libre Office seems to be at 4.4.4.3 for me, and the menu highlighting works again. And KInfocenter reports Plasma as 5.3.95.
[13:20] <BluesKaj> soee:  I'm sure the Waterloo repos are up to date, they pride themselves on maintaining an upto date repos , unless the master hasn't updated the rest of the the servers  
[13:20] <sitter> mparillo: you might want to file a bug about that
[13:21] <soee> lordievader: can you check if Wily show sthe same error for you when trying to update ?
[13:22] <lordievader> soee: It didn't.
[13:22] <soee> O.O
[13:22] <rdieter_work> sitter: fwiw, only last checked with marble-15.04.3 (in case it's some wierdness introduced since then)
[13:23] <sitter> rdieter_work: ah, that's 15.08
[13:23] <sitter> ubottu: info cmake wily
[13:23] <sitter> whatever that command was >.<
[13:23] <rdieter_work> sitter: I can try a quick 15.07.90 build locally, I'll let you know how it goes
[13:23] <sitter> yofel: so... my best theory right now is that the cmake in wily is behaving differently
[13:24] <sitter> rdieter_work: cheers
[13:24] <soee> BluesKaj: can you check in for have any strigi* packages installed ?
[13:24] <soee> *if
[13:24] <sitter> it would help if we had marble in the CI :P
[13:25] <yofel> you may add it
[13:26]  * BluesKaj checks
[13:27] <yofel> sitter: btw, what would you suggest for providing libmarblewidget twice? upload a marble-qt4 source?
[13:27] <sitter> yofel: working patchü http://paste.ubuntu.com/12107760/
[13:28] <BluesKaj> soee:  just some plugins for strigi search , but no strigi-client
[13:28] <yofel> oh wait, double building would suffice I think
[13:28] <sitter> yofel: double build
[13:28] <clivejo> libkdegames seems to be a symbols issue, can these be safely updated and missing removed?
[13:28] <sitter> debian will make it a double build anwyay (as seen with oxygen and breeze)
[13:28] <yofel> ok, I'll get to that in the evening, thansk for the link fix
[13:29] <sitter> yofel: I'll file a RR upstream even though I am not quite sure why it apparently works without it for me and kde CI xD
[13:29] <yofel> right, let's see what they say
[13:29] <sitter> it's arguably incorrect code that works all the same
[13:30] <sitter> it's a mad world
[13:31] <rdieter_work> yofel: latest marble sources can provide a qt5 libmarblewidget too, fyi (with recent commit at least)
[13:32] <rdieter_work> err, s/qt5/qt4/ that is
[13:32] <soee> what does the 
[13:32] <soee> '+dfsg' in package name means ?
[13:32] <yofel> rdieter_work: right, I forgot that for a moment, I'll look at that
[13:33] <rdieter_work> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=marble.git&a=commit&h=5a7b3daeaab324c2c6f3ffdba69a14dc959b3331  , reference from kde release list too "KDE Applications 15.08 RC is out" thread
[13:35] <sitter> yofel: for dep3 reference https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/124787/
[13:36] <yofel> thanks
[13:36] <yofel> rdieter_work: thanks
[13:39] <soee> is this fullscreen dashboard abailable in 5.4beta ?
[13:39] <soee> *available
[13:40] <sitter> doko: dtor symbols are safe to retract I presume? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/214415167/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.libkdegames_4%3A15.07.90-0ubuntu1~ubuntu15.10~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[13:41] <doko> sitter, in general yes
[13:43] <clivejo> sitter: for libkdegames, please review this patch - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12107877/
[13:45] <sitter> clivejo: pushed
[13:45] <clivejo> thanks
[13:48] <clivejo> regarding libkcddb, Im not sure what going on, is it a problem with libmusicbrainz5?
[13:49] <garvitdelhi> Hey, I have been working for project LabPlot in KDE Edu. We don't have any package for this software in kubuntu's repository. We have to install it from source to run them on debian based os. Me and my mentor were looking for some help on how can we get our project into the repositories so that users can install it via apt-get install. any help in this direction would be helpful.
[13:49] <doko> clivejo, I fixed libkcddb and cantata. the fixes are now in wily
[13:50] <sitter> rebuilding. that should fix it
[13:50] <clivejo> doko: oh, still saying failed on http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_15.07.90_wily.html
[13:50] <soee> Riddell: ping
[13:51] <clivejo> ah, so rebuild will fix it
[13:52] <sitter> garvitdelhi: getting it into a kde applications release usually is a good idea
[13:52] <sitter> makes packaging much more managable
[13:52] <sitter> clivejo: yes
[13:52] <sitter> soee: he's away until tomorrow or probably later today
[13:53] <sitter> *possibly
[13:53] <garvitdelhi> sitter, so we just need to include it into kde applications release solves the problem?
[13:54] <sitter> garvitdelhi: yes. it's not the only way to go about it. it is certainly the preferred approach though
[13:54] <ahoneybun> we has an RC of 5.4!
[13:54] <garvitdelhi> Okay, thank you :)
[13:54] <doko> clivejo, http://launchpadlibrarian.net/214655713/libkcddb_4%3A15.04.2-0ubuntu1_4%3A15.04.3-0ubuntu1.diff.gz
[13:55] <sitter> garvitdelhi: mind you the next major applications release is schedule for december, so if you want to get into kubuntu 15.10 we'll have to figure out something else. if so please send a mail to the kubuntu-devel list to find someone to do the initial packaging
[13:55] <garvitdelhi> okay
[13:59] <sitter> yofel: I think we should run a script over apps... half the watch files don't cover unstable :S
[13:59] <yofel> right, and some packages have no watch file at all
[14:00] <clivejo> Ive been adding ones I noticed missing
[14:00] <yofel> right, thanks for that
[14:01] <clivejo> how do you script it?
[14:03] <yofel> uh, would be something like "clone git, checkout branch, verify file, otherwise put new one from template in, commit, push"
[14:03] <sitter> yofel: FTR in case you want to do such a thing: scripty I used earlier http://paste.ubuntu.com/12107992/
[14:03] <yofel> and we have the repo list in kubuntu-automation
[14:04] <yofel> great, ruby -.-*
[14:04] <yofel> thanks anyway
[14:04] <mparillo> sitter: When running a daily build, I typically do not file a bug until a day or two of updates pass just in case I got part of a release. In this case, at least, I was able to use the Leave > Shut down just fine after Kubuntu came up cleanly after a sudo poweroff. P.S. The bluetooth icon is back.
[14:04] <sitter> yofel: I'd do it via git https://github.com/apachelogger/kubuntu-repo-merge/blob/master/merge.rb#L87
[14:04] <sitter> yofel: eh, via ssh. simply ls all repos
[14:04] <sitter> that way we definitely catch all
[14:04] <yofel> oh, nice, didn't know that was possible
[14:05] <sitter> just needs some branch checking ... i.e. skip if there is no kubuntu_wily_archive branch
[14:05] <sitter> mparillo: apparently that's what everyone thinks
[14:06] <sitter> every plasma release someone complains about kickoff shutdown not working
[14:06] <sitter> but apparently no one ever filed a bug upstream
[14:06] <sitter> clivejo: new libkcddb uploaded to incorporate doko's fix
[14:07] <sitter> yofel: it's how we dynamically iter repos in all the CI tech
[14:07] <sitter> most useful bit about git.debian ^^
[14:07] <mparillo> But, it is not reproducible, because the next session, it works fine. Something about applying certain kind of updates 'steps on' that function, but after a clean re-boot, everything works.
[14:07] <sitter> mparillo: yep
[14:08] <sitter> it is however reproducible by redoign the upgrade
[14:09] <sitter> which actually should make it pretty debugable once one has a list of which packages were upgraded between which versions
[14:10] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[14:10] <ahoneybun> XD
[14:10] <ahoneybun> sgclark: still on vacation?
[14:11] <mparillo> But I do not know in advance when it will happen, so basically, I should copy the list of packages in the upgrade set, and when it happens again post a bug on B.K.O?
[14:12] <yofel> mparillo: you can get the upgrade set from your apt history
[14:12] <yofel> although, on wily it's probably not reproducable. With the backports it might be
[14:13] <mparillo> Yes, it is on Wily. 
[14:15] <sitter> :O https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/staging-kdeapplications/+build/7807964
[14:15] <sitter> who wants to sacrifice their mail on the altar of kdepim5?
[14:16] <ahoneybun> holy crap
[14:16] <ahoneybun> 235 packages toupdate
[14:16] <ahoneybun> 5.4 here we come!
[14:16] <sitter> shadeslayer_: my frund, do you have a wily vm?
[14:16] <shadeslayer_> I does not
[14:17] <sitter> where's jr when you need him
[14:17] <shadeslayer_> He's off doing stuff today I think
[14:17] <sitter> I disapprove
[14:17] <clivejo> canoeing
=== sitter changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: https://trello.com/kubuntu | http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-apps-15.08 | wily testers needed for new kdepim. talk to sitter or yofel
[14:18] <sitter> yofel: kdepim all built and good for upload
[14:18] <sitter> alas, I can't test because I have no vm :P
[14:18] <yofel> \o/
[14:19] <lordievader> sitter: Give me instructions on how to test kdepim and I'll test it ;)
[14:19] <mparillo> ahoneybun: Almost at 5.4: http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=385
[14:19] <shadeslayer_> thou requireth a VM
[14:19] <ahoneybun> 5.3.95
[14:19] <sitter> lordievader: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications && sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[14:20] <ahoneybun> close enough
[14:20] <sitter> you people and your legacy software :P https://plus.google.com/101588423559652288894/posts/gzvngiEE9kD?pid=6180239644263400994&oid=101588423559652288894
[14:22] <sitter> clivejo: did you have a patch I haven't pushed yet?
[14:22] <sitter> kinda lost track with all the people talking about different things
[14:22] <clivejo> no idea, Ive lost track
[14:22] <sitter> xD
[14:22] <sitter>  sbuild-build-depends-kopete-dummy : Depends: kdepim-dev but it is not going to be installed
[14:22] <sitter> meh
[14:23] <lordievader> Perhaps someone needs to write a smart bot who does keep track ;)
[14:28] <sitter> uha
[14:28] <sitter> doko: could it be that the musicbrainz pkg-config file wasn't modified to use the new lib?
[14:28] <sitter> still getting -lmusicbrainz5
[14:29] <lordievader> sitter: The first dist-upgrade failed on accountwizzard, it was trying to overwrite something. Starting dist-upgrade again there were no problems.
[14:29] <sitter> lordievader: what was it trying to overwrite
[14:29] <ahoneybun> something is broke or missing
[14:29] <ahoneybun> both application launchers are broken
[14:30] <ahoneybun> Error loading Applet: package inexistent
[14:30] <lordievader> sitter: /usr/share/mime/packages/accountwizard-mime.xml it is in kdepim-runtime 4:4.14.6-0ubuntu3
[14:30] <sitter> doko: nevermind, different name
[14:33] <sitter> lordievader: ok, fixed for next upload
[14:33] <lordievader> \o/
[14:35] <ahoneybun> how do we access that full screen launcher?
[14:35] <ahoneybun> is no widget
[14:44] <ahoneybun> I see we are missing kdeplasma-addon 
[14:44] <ahoneybun> like valorie said
[14:51] <sitter> lordievader: did you continue with the upgrade?
[14:51] <lordievader> sitter: It was done?
[14:52] <sitter> lordievader: is kontact/kmail/kaddressbook working?
[14:55] <lordievader> Hmm, I cannot create a gmail account on kmail...
[14:56] <lordievader> Clicking next does a redraw of the wizard and then nothing.
[14:58] <sitter> lordievader: start from terminal see if there's any output
[14:59] <lordievader> Kmail crashes after a while...
[14:59] <sitter> backtrace?
[14:59] <ahoneybun> next does nothing
[14:59] <ahoneybun> create account or whatever
[15:00] <ahoneybun> lordievader: ^
[15:00] <sitter> ah yeah
[15:00] <ahoneybun> stupid system
[15:00] <sitter> most terrible wizard ever
[15:00] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Also after...
[15:00] <ahoneybun> the crashing is a issue
[15:01] <lordievader> It fails in opening the kwallet...
[15:03] <lordievader> Hmpf, kmail is completely broken here. Is there another way to test kdepim?
[15:08] <sitter> [16:59] <sitter> backtrace?
[15:11] <rdieter_work> sitter: confirmed marble plasmarunner links ok here with 15.07.90 too
[15:11] <sitter> rdieter_work: which cmake?
[15:11] <sitter> version
[15:12] <rdieter_work> with 3.2.2
[15:12] <lordievader> sitter: http://c-c.student.utwente.nl/files/kmail.trace it is long.... 38Mb...
[15:12] <sitter> rdieter_work: thank you
[15:12] <sitter> lordievader: that's not a backtrace, that's an strace
[15:12] <sitter> backtrace is what drkonqi throws you at
[15:13] <lordievader> Ah, sorry.
[15:14] <ahoneybun> sitter: kdeplasma-addons is not in the repos
[15:14] <ahoneybun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kdeplasma-addons&searchon=names&suite=wily&section=all
[15:14] <sitter> oh yeah
[15:14] <sitter> http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/wily/kdeplasma-addons
[15:14] <ahoneybun> the source is there
[15:14] <ahoneybun> no package
[15:14] <lordievader> sitter: https://paste.kde.org/pcf2bdciu
[15:15] <sitter> lordievader: looks like a real bug
[15:15] <sitter> lordievader: can you run akonadiselftest and see what it has to say
[15:15] <ahoneybun> sitter: https://paste.kde.org/pc5ywowdu
[15:15] <sitter> becaus according to the strace your akonadi might have imploded while loadin agents, if I read it correctly anyway
[15:16] <sitter> ahoneybun: there is no such package
[15:16] <sitter> kdeplasma-addons-data
[15:16] <sitter> locale files for kdeplasma-addons
[15:16] <sitter> kdeplasma-addons-dbg
[15:16] <sitter> debugging symbols for kdeplasma-addons
[15:16] <sitter> kwin-addons
[15:16] <sitter> additional desktop and window switchers for KWin
[15:16] <sitter> plasma-dataengines-addons
[15:16] <sitter> additional data engines for Plasma
[15:16] <lordievader> Oeh, database driver not found! Am I missing things?
[15:16] <sitter> plasma-runners-addons
[15:16] <sitter> additional runners for Plasma 5 and Krunner
[15:16] <sitter> plasma-wallpapers-addons
[15:16] <sitter> additional wallpaper plugins for Plasma 5
[15:16] <sitter> plasma-widget-kimpanel
[15:16] <sitter> KIMPanel widget for Plasma
[15:16] <sitter> plasma-widgets-addons
[15:16] <sitter> additional widgets for Plasma 5
[15:16] <ahoneybun> sitter: that's very confusing 
[15:16] <ahoneybun> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kdeplasma-addons.git/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive
[15:16] <lordievader> The QSQLite driver cannot be found.
[15:17] <ahoneybun> there is such a package
[15:17] <sitter> ok
[15:17] <sitter> so there is this package
[15:17] <sitter> and it isn't in kubuntu
[15:17] <sitter> lordievader: did you use sqlite previously?
[15:17] <ahoneybun> Riddell: left it built/in the process of building
[15:17] <ahoneybun> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/plasma/kdeplasma-addons.git/commit/?h=kubuntu_wily_archive&id=dda7a854b59aab22cc624d84b3e527126a3c2141
[15:18] <ahoneybun> who's on wily with 5.3.95?
[15:18] <lordievader> sitter: Not to my knowledge.
[15:19] <sitter> bummr
[15:19] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Here, here.
[15:19] <ahoneybun> lordievader: do your application launchers still work
[15:19] <ahoneybun> ?
[15:19] <ahoneybun> both of them
[15:19] <sitter> lordievader: dpkg-query -W \*akonadi\*
[15:19] <lordievader> ahoneybun: What application launchers?
[15:19] <ahoneybun> kickoff
[15:19] <ahoneybun> and the other one
[15:19] <ahoneybun> we have 2
[15:20] <ahoneybun> both of mine are broken
[15:20] <lordievader> sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12108577/
[15:20] <sitter> lordievader: sudo apt install akonadi-kf5
[15:20] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Both work fine.
[15:21] <ahoneybun> mine say: Error loading Applet: package inexistent. Could not create a declarativeappletscript ScriptEngine for the Application Menu widget.
[15:21] <sitter> lordievader: though something is broken with your akonadi, you might want to try and get a hold of dvratil in #kde-devel to help you debug this. it sounds a bit odd that it would try to load the sqlite plugin though
[15:21] <lordievader> sitter: E: Unable to locate package akonadi-kf5
[15:21] <sitter> lordievader: cat ~/.config/akonadi/akonadiserverrc
[15:21] <lordievader> sitter: I don't really use kmail ;)
[15:22] <sitter> then at least fixing it isn't critical :P
[15:22] <lordievader> sitter: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12108598/
[15:22] <sitter> but something is broken and until I can get a wily I can't say what
[15:22] <lordievader> sitter: Nope, this is a test box anyways. Doesn't matter if things break :P
[15:22] <sitter> mhmh
[15:23] <sitter> lordievader: in akonadiselftest you can copy to clipboard
[15:23] <sitter> please paste the entire report
[15:23] <lordievader> sitter: Would it matter that this is an upgrade from Trusty?
[15:23] <lordievader> sitter: https://paste.kde.org/pqwrhsg18
[15:24] <sitter> lordievader: probably not
[15:24] <sitter> lordievader: uh I get it
[15:25] <sitter> lordievader: sudo apt install libqt5sql5-mysql
[15:25] <sitter> and then akonadictl restart
[15:25] <sitter> then the selftest should be green
[15:26] <lordievader> That fixed the driver issue.
[15:27] <lordievader> Doesn't fix kmail though: https://paste.kde.org/p4derjh48
[15:33] <sitter> lordievader: if you simply start kmail do you get any relevant output before it crashes?
[15:34] <sitter> like "akonadi is exploding, help" xD
[15:34] <sitter> also you probably should install akoandi-dbg
[15:34] <lordievader> Hehe, I don't get that. I do get a window asking for my kwallet password. Which it doesn't accept. And the wizard of a new account shows in the background.
[15:35] <sitter> lordievader: interesting, well, install akonadi-dbg and file a bug I guess
[15:35] <lordievader> Will do.
[15:35] <sitter> or hunt down dvratil and show him the backtrace with akonadi-dbg installed
[15:35] <sitter> seems like a legitatme bug though
[15:35] <clivejo> lordievader: your wily is an upgrade?
[15:39] <lordievader> clivejo: Yes. At the time the Wily images failed to boot for me.
[15:41] <sitter> lordievader: thanks I uploaded a fix for the sql issue. if you want to continue testing simply send a mail to kubuntu-devel with the findings as I am about to head out
[15:41] <sitter> relevant apps probably include kontact kaddressbook and korganizer
[15:42] <sitter> though since the crash appears to be in core akonadi chances are all of these apps also crash xD
[15:42] <lordievader> Err, I think I'll submit this bug and get on with other things.
[15:48] <clivejo> what do I need to copy over to allow kdepim to use my previous settings?
[15:50] <lordievader> Hmpf, drkonqi finds the debug information of too little value.
[15:53] <clivejo> me likey the kubuntu installer :)
[16:20] <pursuivant> muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.3.95-2-g25dfb30 * Aleix Pol: libmuonapt/QAptActions.cpp
[16:20] <pursuivant> pkexec wants split arguments
[16:20] <pursuivant> BUG: 351311
[16:20] <pursuivant> http://commits.kde.org/muon/25dfb3006480b17042efcebdb860c9fd89184591
[16:20] <ubottu> bug 351311 in Woda "Login Box is not displayed in printHead" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/351311
[16:39] <Riddell> gosh lots of pings :)
[16:39] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin
[16:42] <clivejo> hi Riddell
[16:42] <snele> is plasma 4.4 coming soon to wily? :)
[16:42] <snele> i can't wait to test it :)
[16:43] <clivejo> 5.4?
[16:43] <snele> yea sory
[16:43] <snele> *sorry
[16:43] <clivejo> its in proposed?
[16:44] <snele> clivejo: and apps 15.08? 
[16:44] <clivejo> working on 15.07.90 
[16:45] <snele> clivejo: ok thanks for info
[16:45] <clivejo> kdepim is not in good shape
[16:48] <Riddell> snele: looks like it's in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop
[16:49] <clivejo> hummm
[16:50] <clivejo> well kontact has opened for me
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: can you set up an ec2 for me and ahoneybun?
[16:50] <ovidiu-florin> we want to package digikam 4.12
[16:50] <clivejo> and looks like its trying to do something
[16:50] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ok
[16:52] <clivejo> what do we need to test in app 15.07.90?
[16:56] <ahoneybun> Riddell: ovidiu-florin want's it packaged lol
[16:59] <clivejo> Riddell: why is kontact and dolphin missing their icons - http://s29.postimg.org/5px4ircd3/wily_kontact.jpg
[17:03] <ovidiu-florin> yeah, they had a huge bug with the UI
[17:04] <ovidiu-florin> and I want to test it if it's still there
[17:04] <ovidiu-florin> don't we have it in the CI or something?
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[17:15] <ahoneybun> lordievader: I reboot fixed my launchers
[17:15] <ahoneybun> *a reboot
[17:18] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: [email protected]
[17:20] <ahoneybun> Riddell: when are you going to upload kdeplasma-addons?
[17:20] <ahoneybun> you packaged it
[17:23] <ahoneybun> holy crap ovidiu-florin, debian sid has 4.4 version 
[17:24] <ovidiu-florin> of what?
[17:25] <ahoneybun> digikam
[17:26] <ovidiu-florin> sid is what version of debian?
[17:27] <ahoneybun> expermiatl (can't spell)
[17:28] <ahoneybun> stable, unstable, exp
[17:28] <ovidiu-florin> what's that share shell command?
[17:28] <lordievader> ahoneybun: Hehe, the Windows fix ;)
[17:29] <ahoneybun> yea odd I know lol
[17:29] <ahoneybun> share shell ovidiu-florin ?
[17:29] <ahoneybun> just ssh into it
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> I'm in
[17:37] <ovidiu-florin> what now?
[17:38] <yofel> ahoneybun: sid is unstable
[17:40] <ahoneybun> yofel: there are 3 channels for debian right/
[17:40] <yofel> irc channels? or do you mean series?
[17:41] <ahoneybun> series I guess
[17:41] <ahoneybun> stable, unstable and one more no?
[17:41] <yofel> there is oldstable, stable, testing, unstable, experimental
[17:42] <yofel> at least when it comes to the metanames
[17:42] <ahoneybun> yea stable, testing, and unstable
[17:42] <yofel> for us, it would map to something like: experimental -> PPA, unstable -> wily-proposed, testing -> wily, stable -> vivid
[17:43] <yofel> we even use the same procedure to move stuff from wily-proposed to wily as they do for unstable -> testing
[17:43] <yofel> just with different settings
[17:43] <yofel> debian release management is complicated
[17:44] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: here are some notes I made: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Packaging
[17:45] <yofel> ahoneybun: maybe add a small section about pbuilder, and document https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/pbuilder/pbuilder-hooks there
[17:45] <yofel> sadly we lost the old information during the wiki move
[17:47] <clivejo> yofel: would it be on the wayback machine?
[17:47] <yofel> now I didn't think of that, good point
[17:47] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra
[17:47] <yofel> let me check (once I remember the URL..)
[17:47] <clivejo> yofel: http://archive.org/web/
[17:48] <yofel> the wiki page URL ;P
[17:48] <ahoneybun> clivejo: weren't you doing digikam?
[17:48] <yofel> but thanks
[17:48] <clivejo> ahoneybun: yeah I package two versions for wily 
[17:48] <ahoneybun> Riddell: we need a share shell
[17:48] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: what's the name of that shared shell thingy?
[17:48] <ahoneybun> clivejo: what about vivid?
[17:49] <ahoneybun> I found this: https://launchpad.net/~philip5/+archive/ubuntu/extra
[17:49] <clivejo> ahoneybun: I havent done any vivid stuff
[17:50]  * clivejo is seriously considering adding staging apps to his main install
[17:50] <yofel> nope, not in the wayback machine :(
[17:52] <clivejo> anyone know of an easy way to copy files into a VM in  Virtual Box?
[17:53] <yofel> you can mount a local folder as a network share in vbox
[17:53] <clivejo> hi soee_
[17:53] <yofel> machine settings > shared folders
[17:54] <clivejo> yofel: I want to copy in my home directory while the VM is offline
[17:55] <yofel> no idea how to do that
[17:55] <clivejo> yofel: do you know why the kicker launch icon for dolphin and kontact arent working in apps 15.07.90?
[17:56] <yofel> are the icons actually there? (check icon name in desktop file, and then check with dpkg -S if it's there)
[17:56] <clivejo> doesnt appear so
[17:57] <clivejo> I can run both programme's from the terminal 
[17:57] <clivejo> and both appear to be working ok
[17:58] <yofel> oh, you mean they don't launch at all
[17:58] <clivejo> correct
[17:58] <yofel> then again look at the desktop files, and what's set as Exec=
[17:58] <yofel> and whether you can run that
[17:59] <clivejo> yofel: http://s29.postimg.org/5px4ircd3/wily_kontact.jpg
[17:59] <clivejo> no icon and do nothing when you click them
[17:59] <yofel> oh, that's your favorites
[17:59] <yofel> are the desktop files even there?
[18:00] <yofel> it could be that the names changed or so, kickoff can't handle that
[18:00]  * yofel isn't running 15.07.90, so is guessing
[18:00] <clivejo> yofel: is correct
[18:00] <clivejo> :)
[18:00] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: https://quickgit.kde.org/?p=digikam.git&a=commit&h=ddd05190f52afd2201434f772e8ce3a6c5e5c487
[18:01] <clivejo> it opens via the office link
[18:02] <yofel> oh, /usr/share/applications/kde4/dolphin.desktop
[18:02] <yofel> that *might* not be the same for kf5 ^^
[18:02] <yofel> we'll probably need a kconf update script or so to fix that
[18:03] <clivejo> spot on
[18:03] <yofel> although I would have to look at that closer
[18:04] <clivejo> new path is /usr/share/applications/org.kde.kontact.desktop
[18:05] <clivejo> and /usr/share/applications/org.kde.dolphin.desktop
[18:06] <ahoneybun> we need a share shell
[18:06] <yofel> shared shell? use byobu
[18:06] <ahoneybun> I have that
[18:06] <yofel> oh, I actually found the old page XD
[18:07] <yofel> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Ninjas/BuildEnvironment?action=recall&rev=14
[18:07] <ahoneybun> I;m using that yofel
[18:07] <ahoneybun> but ovidiu-florin does not see what I'm doing
[18:07] <yofel> are you *both* running byobu?
[18:07] <yofel> as the same user?
[18:08] <ahoneybun> maybe not
[18:08] <soee_> hi clivejo
[18:09] <ahoneybun> run "byobu" ovidiu-florin
[18:09] <yofel> anyway, gotta run, bbl
[18:09] <ahoneybun> thanks yofel
[18:10] <ahoneybun> I'm trying to find the soure 4.12 for digikam
[18:10] <clivejo> their website
[18:10] <ahoneybun> no good
[18:10] <clivejo> http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/ here?
[18:11] <clivejo> they normally put a blog post about it
[18:12] <clivejo> maybe its an unstable build?
[18:13] <clivejo> ahoneybun: packaging is here - https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/digikam
[18:13] <ahoneybun> for vivid>
[18:13] <ahoneybun> ?
[18:14] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: http://download.kde.org/stable/digikam/digikam-4.12.0.tar.bz2
[18:14] <clivejo> is it this build - https://www.digikam.org/node/741 ?
[18:19] <yofel> ahoneybun: uscan doesn't find the source?
[18:19] <ahoneybun> we got it I think
[18:20] <yofel> yeah, but digikam has a watch file, so you can try that first before searching for it forever ;)
[18:20] <yofel> at least next time
[18:21] <clivejo> digikam was one of the first packages I did.  TBH I havent a clue what I was doing
[18:23] <yofel> uh
[18:23] <yofel> wait
[18:23] <yofel>  digikam | 4:4.12.0-0ubuntu3 | wily/universe    | source, amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el
[18:24] <yofel> ahoneybun: clivejo already did that?
[18:24] <clivejo> yup, but not for vivid
[18:24] <ahoneybun> yofel: for wily
[18:24] <yofel> aaah
[18:24] <yofel> but why are you looking for the source then o.O?
[18:24] <yofel> you would usually backport the wily package
[18:24] <clivejo> cause I probably didnt update the watch file!
[18:25] <yofel> no, that's correct
[18:26] <clivejo> hummmm account assistant is crashing!
[18:27] <ahoneybun> yofel: I don't know about backporting
[18:27] <clivejo> yofel: me neither
[18:30] <yofel> well, the idea is: "take source from $dev, put changelog for $stable in there, try to build on $stable, fix what doesn't work"
[18:30] <yofel> useful tools include "backportpackage" and "pull-lp-source" from ubuntu-dev-tools (I don't know how to use former)
[18:30] <clivejo> works for 3rd party apps too?
[18:30] <davmor2> clivejo: accounts are over-rated ;)
[18:31] <yofel> well, works for anything that you can get the source package of
[18:31] <clivejo> davmor2: indeed, why would anyone want to use a PIM to check their emails
[18:31] <clivejo> crazy talk
[18:32] <davmor2> clivejo: next you'll be saying that people want to sign or even god forbid encrypt mail
[18:35] <ahoneybun> yofel: I'm just doing something lol
[18:36] <ahoneybun> mailto:[email protected]
[18:36] <yofel> mailto? ^^
[18:36] <ahoneybun> well thats what it does
[18:36] <ahoneybun> ssh [email protected]
[18:36] <yofel> ahoneybun: you'll have to add my pq-edge key from launchpad for me to get there
[18:37] <ahoneybun> damn
[18:37] <yofel> or just all
[18:37] <ahoneybun> no clue to do that
[18:37] <ahoneybun> Riddell: set it up
[18:37] <yofel> ahoneybun: put https://launchpad.net/~yofel/+sshkeys into ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[18:38] <yofel> using your favorite cli editor ^^
[18:38] <clivejo> LOL
[18:39] <ahoneybun> try yofel
[18:39] <yofel> hm, I need to do some key cleanup..
[18:40] <yofel> ahoneybun: there you have the wily package
[18:40] <ahoneybun> cool
[18:41] <yofel> email is wrong, fix it later
[18:42] <ahoneybun> soo.
[18:42] <yofel> so, now *I* would run "debuild -S" and feed it into a vivid pbuilder instance
[18:42] <yofel> but you continue as you're used to
[18:42]  * ahoneybun make such pbuilder
[18:45] <yofel> considering this is digikam, you'll probaby have to backport some build-deps as well
[18:45] <ahoneybun> yea I know it will be a beast
[18:45] <yofel> and you'll have to add the backports PPA url to the chroot
[18:45] <ahoneybun> clueless about that part
[18:45] <yofel> (*always* make the environment as close as possible to the place you want to put it later)
[18:46] <ahoneybun> I thought it did not matter
[18:47] <yofel> sadly it does. E.g. digikam uses libkipi and libmarblewidget, you don't want to use a kde and digikam that use different versions of those
[18:47] <yofel> can e.g. cause crashes in ksnapshot which uses kipi-plugins
[18:47] <clivejo> *growls @ libkipi*
[18:48] <yofel> XD
[18:48] <yofel> I'll have fun with marble later.. you should've seen the kde-workspace package while we were still building multiple editions of kwin ^^
[18:49] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[18:49] <clivejo> yofel: if you have time would you walk me along with you
[18:50] <yofel> ahoneybun: where do you want to put digikam?
[18:50] <clivejo> some of it might make sense
[18:50] <yofel> hm, I guess I can try..
[18:51] <ahoneybun> to put yofel?
[18:51] <yofel> ahoneybun: upload to
[18:51] <ahoneybun> I'll put it in my ppa for now 
[18:51] <yofel> ok, does your ppa depend on anything?
[18:51] <ahoneybun> ummm
[18:52] <yofel> did you ever click on "edit dependencies" on launchpad?
[18:52] <ahoneybun> I want to say no
[18:52] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages
[18:52] <yofel> ahoneybun: https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-packages/+edit-dependencies
[18:53] <yofel> anything listed?
[18:53] <ahoneybun> Default
[18:53] <yofel> ok, then just go and feed digikam into pbuilder as-is
[18:54] <ahoneybun> still running debuild -S
[18:54] <ahoneybun> had to fix something in debian/control
[18:55] <ahoneybun> what did that do?
[18:55] <yofel> disable debsign (unsigned-dsc, unsigned-changes)
[18:57] <ahoneybun> oh ok
[19:00] <clivejo> kdesudo dolphin is the safe way?
[19:00] <ahoneybun> I made the damn pbuilder already
[19:02] <yofel> clivejo: uhm, for what...? or why would you want to do that?
[19:03] <clivejo> want to copy my home folder 
[19:04] <clivejo> see if kontact can handle it
[19:05] <ahoneybun> yofel: I broke something
[19:05] <yofel> well, go ahead. But creating a folder that you can write into and not using sudo would be safer
[19:06] <ahoneybun> clivejo: digikam 4.13 is coming soon
[19:06] <clivejo> how would you suggest I transfer a user folder?
[19:07]  * yofel hands ahoneybun the pbuilder-dist manpage
[19:07] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:07] <ahoneybun> yofel: clivejo I had to update the standards version thing in debian/control so you might have to too now
[19:07] <yofel> you can't just use p-d chroots with pbuilder
[19:08] <yofel> not without configuration
[19:08] <yofel> oh that, we don't really care :P
[19:08] <clivejo> ahoneybun: give me a shout when its released, Ill try package it for wily
[19:09] <ahoneybun> 8-30
[19:09] <ahoneybun> so in 2 weeks or so
[19:09] <yofel> the ubuntu policy is stuck at 3.8.2.0
[19:12] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: still here?
[19:12] <ahoneybun> yea
[19:12] <ovidiu-florin> hangout dead?
[19:13] <ahoneybun> I wanted to end it for now
[19:13] <ahoneybun> pbuilder is running thanks to yofel
[19:16] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: it's compiling at least
[19:16] <ahoneybun> so good sign
[19:16] <clivejo> ahoneybun: time to make a coffee and write a novel
[19:16] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:16] <ahoneybun> kill time till something breas
[19:16] <ahoneybun> *breaks
[19:17] <clivejo> Im sure lintian will have something for you to do
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> it broke
[19:17] <ahoneybun> ovidiu-florin: ?
[19:17] <ovidiu-florin> my brain with these Gcompris translations
[19:18] <ahoneybun> XD
[19:19] <ahoneybun> lintian hates us all
[19:19] <ahoneybun> so picky
[19:19] <ahoneybun> like my ex-gf XD
[19:20] <clivejo> but she doesnt even know me!
[19:21] <ahoneybun> XDX D
[19:22] <yofel> yeah, compiling, but a couple things are not found (probably too old), so it won't actually pass the binary step
[19:32] <valorie> so who is gonna package plasma-addons?
[19:32] <clivejo> aaron
[19:32] <ahoneybun> it seems that Riddell has it kinda done
[19:33] <ahoneybun> what?
[19:33]  * valorie will DCC a delicious cup of coldbrewed coffee to that wonderful person
[19:33]  * ahoneybun likes coffee
[19:33] <clivejo> anyone suggest a home folder backup tool for kubuntu?
[19:33] <valorie> !info plasma-addons
[19:33] <ubottu> Package plasma-addons does not exist in wily
[19:33] <valorie> clivejo: rsync
[19:33] <clivejo> gui?
[19:34] <clivejo> with options to drop some folders
[19:34] <valorie> we used to have lucky backup which was a gui for it
[19:34] <clivejo> dont need internet cache, downlands etc
[19:34] <valorie> right
[19:35] <valorie> of course you can make excludes for rsync
[19:35] <clivejo> valorie: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdeplasma-addons/4:5.3.95-0ubuntu1
[19:36] <clivejo> in proposed aparently
[19:36] <valorie> cool
[19:36] <ovidiu-florin> ahoneybun: how do I quit that shell? without disturbing you?
[19:36] <valorie> thank you Riddell
[19:36] <yofel> ahoneybun: F6
[19:36] <yofel> erm, ovidiu-florin ^
[19:36] <ovidiu-florin> yofel: thank you
[19:36] <valorie> clivejo: I have a doc of rsync excludes, but I just copy the folders I want
[19:37] <valorie> otoh I want to script it
[19:37]  * ovidiu-florin is off to bed
[19:37] <ahoneybun> so it is done clivejo?
[19:37] <valorie> I can send you the text doc if you are interested
[19:37]  * ahoneybun already grabed the source
[19:38] <clivejo> I just want something quick to make an archive of my current home directory and extract it into my VM
[19:38] <clivejo> minus the big useless files
[19:38] <valorie> right, cache, trash, ISOs, etc.
[19:38] <clivejo> yup
[19:39]  * ahoneybun goes outside for a few
[19:39] <clivejo> I want to test apps 15.07.90 on wily
[19:40] <valorie> sent
[19:40] <clivejo> gmail?
[19:40] <valorie> yes
[19:40] <valorie> just a 1k text file
[19:41] <clivejo> I wonder should I just do a regular remote backup and add the ppa into my main system :/
[19:43] <clivejo> gonna have to add to that valorie, I have VMs and other rubbish in my home
[19:45] <clivejo> I think thats a job for tomorrow
[19:45] <clivejo> too tired right now
[19:47] <valorie> that's a project for a few weeks from now for me
[19:47] <valorie> right now, planning on heading north for a few days as my husband finishes his hike
[19:47] <valorie> dropping him off at Rainy Pass tomorrow, then picking him up in Canada a few days later
[19:48] <clivejo> yofel: can you retry kopete?
[19:48] <yofel> yes, in a bit
[19:48] <clivejo> I think its deps are resolved now
[19:49] <yofel> ah, simple retry, done
[19:50] <clivejo> thanks :)
[19:56] <soee_> updates broken a bit in Wily :)
[19:56] <clivejo> soee_: how so?
[19:57] <soee_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12111326/
[19:58] <clivejo> eak
[19:58] <clivejo> what did you do ?!?
[19:58] <soee_> nothing :)
[19:58] <soee_> this how normal updates look like now
[19:58] <soee_> yofel: is it due to this hcc transition ?
[19:58] <soee_> *gcc
[19:59] <clivejo> not on my box!
[19:59] <yofel> possibly
[19:59] <clivejo> but then I do have proposed and a few ppa's added in for good luck
[20:00] <soee_> ah i do not have proposed
[20:00] <soee_> but last time i tried them, result was similar
[20:00] <yofel> let me try to update
[20:01] <yofel> yeah, about the same here
[20:01] <yofel> probably the conflict between boost and kdepim
[20:01] <soee_> ok so good to know im not alone :)
[20:01] <clivejo> I dislike boost
[20:02] <soee_> what boost does ?
[20:02] <clivejo> makes sitter laugh
[20:03] <valorie> so is this a good upgrade to do?
[20:03] <valorie> I get the same as the paste in my little travel netbook
[20:03] <valorie> no proposed
[20:04] <clivejo> things might break :/
[20:04] <soee_> well not good :)
[20:04] <clivejo> but you risk that just using wily at the moment
[20:04] <valorie> I have updates and backports however
[20:05] <soee_> backports are empt in wily i think
[20:05] <valorie> eh, I'll wait until I return from this trip then
[20:05] <clivejo> ooo whats in the wily backports
[20:05] <clivejo> thats would be interesting
[20:05] <valorie> 312 upgraded, 64 newly installed, 54 to remove and 0 not upgraded sounds pretty good though
[20:06] <soee_> there cant be anything, there is no way to backport something to wily :)
[20:06] <yofel> valorie: you'll mostly loose kdepim
[20:07] <yofel> clivejo: it's just there so apt doesn't complain about not existing files
[20:09] <valorie> pim didn't like my gmail yet
[20:09] <valorie> soee_: I didn't add it, it was just there
[20:09] <valorie> I think I'll run the upgrade for just to see
[20:09] <valorie> outside.....
[20:09] <soee_> yofel: "wily testers needed for new kdepim. talk to sitter or yofel"
[20:10] <soee_> where is this new kdepim ?
[20:10] <clivejo> soee_: staging
[20:10] <yofel> where is that from?
[20:10] <soee_> yofel: check topic
[20:10] <yofel> but yeah, probably in ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications
[20:10] <yofel> ah lol
[20:10] <yofel> yeah, it's in there
[20:10] <clivejo> soee_: be careful!
[20:11] <yofel> do I add it, do I not add it, do I add it, do I not add it, do I add it...
[20:11] <clivejo> Ive added it in a VM, but its a clean environment
[20:11] <clivejo> really needs tested with live data!
[20:11] <yofel> screw it, what could possibly go wrong XD
[20:12] <clivejo> but Im scared!
[20:12] <yofel> ok, down to 124 to be removed
[20:13] <yofel> mostly libs and the couple broken things like kopete and kget
[20:14] <yofel> hm, libkface looks like just gcc-internal stuff missing
[20:15] <clivejo> yofel: Im looking at kmouth, in list-missing Im getting - -./usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/phrase.png
[20:15] <yofel> someone needs to donate new hardware to debian, moszumanska is soo slow -.-
[20:17] <soee_> moszumanska ?
[20:17] <yofel> the hostname of git.debian.org
[20:17] <soee_> and git is slow ?
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[20:18] <yofel> the server is slow, so cloning takes ages :/
[20:18] <yofel> one reason why sitter wants to move the CI repos somewhere else
[20:19] <clivejo> is amazon cloud too expensive?
[20:19] <soee_> there is no one willing to sponsor some server ?
[20:19] <yofel> well, we're on git.debian.org *intentionally* right now
[20:19] <yofel> but harald isn't really happy about it for the CI
[20:20] <yofel> otherwise we could just go and move back to launchpad now
[20:21] <soee_> talk to https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/
[20:21] <soee_> they might sponsor some droplets for you
[20:21] <yofel> that's what he was looking for regarding build servers for KDE Neon at least
[20:22] <ahoneybun> yofel: XD
[20:23] <yofel> clivejo: wrt. kmouth, the file is gone, that's why dh_install complains
[20:24] <clivejo> yofel: yes, but when I build it myself, they appear to have moved
[20:24] <clivejo> -- Installing: /tmp/buildd/kmouth-15.07.90/debian/tmp/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/actions/./phrase.png
[20:24] <yofel> then fix the install file
[20:24] <clivejo> I did
[20:24] <clivejo> but something weird is going on
[20:24] <clivejo> Ive staged the files and commited
[20:25] <clivejo> now there is problems in pbuilder with hashes
[20:25] <ahoneybun> yofel: https://paste.kde.org/pkmotjhwm
[20:26] <clivejo> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/wily-proposed/main/i18n/Translation-en  Hash Sum mismatch
[20:26] <yofel> lolwhat
[20:26] <yofel> /tmp/ccn6GacI.s: Fatal error: can't write CMakeFiles/digikam.dir/date/monthwidget.cpp.o: No space left on device
[20:26] <ahoneybun> yea i know lol
[20:26] <clivejo> did I mention digikam is big :P
[20:27] <clivejo> are you using mnt on the ec?
[20:27] <yofel> that should work
[20:27] <ahoneybun> so is that harddrive
[20:27] <yofel> *now* we are
[20:28] <clivejo> time for another coffee ahoneybun
[20:29] <ahoneybun> damn Fallout Shelter
[20:34]  * ahoneybun starts to dislike pbuilder
[20:35] <clivejo> add-apt
[20:36] <yofel> it's useful to check the build, but as we already know that the build will fail, we might as well use a regular chroot
[20:36] <yofel> esp. as that ec2 looks pretty much not set up for development
[20:37] <clivejo> I find pbuilder good on my own system
[20:37] <yofel> yeah, if it's properly set up ;)
[20:37] <clivejo> yofel: yes, thats the key
[20:38] <clivejo> mine still isnt updating on its own
[20:38] <clivejo> have to manually log in and update
[20:39] <clivejo> yofel: what does list missing mean?
[20:39] <yofel> list missing files
[20:39] <clivejo> they are mentioned in the install file, but havent been built?
[20:39] <yofel> i.e. list files that are not put into any binary package
[20:40] <yofel> no, files that are *not* in an install file
[20:40]  * clivejo cries, but they are in it
[20:41] <yofel> if dh_install *fails* on them, that means that they're in an install file but don't actually exist
[20:43] <clivejo> could it be picking up a git file or something?
[20:43] <yofel> dunno, what's the actual error?
[20:44] <yofel> but from git, no
[20:44] <clivejo> it says that a files I have in the install file arent being installed
[20:44] <yofel> right, that can happen, now you have to find out why
[20:45] <yofel> (upstream removed them, not being built because of missing dep, they moved elsewhere, ...)
[20:46] <clivejo> Im trying a git commit and retrying
[20:49] <clivejo> it built!
[20:50] <clivejo> yofel: please review and push - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12112103/
[20:53] <yofel> up
[20:53] <clivejo> :) thanking you kindly
[20:56] <yofel> clivejo: one thing about akonadi-serach, you changed one dep to = source:version, please use >= in that case. It doesn't matter for us, but in debian, the binary version can be higher than the source version
[20:57] <clivejo> oh, how does it affect them?
[20:57] <clivejo> I mean how can a binary be higher than the source?
[20:58] <yofel> they do binary-only rebuilds for library transitions. That way you can have a 5.4-1 source, and a 5.4-1+b1 binary
[20:58] <clivejo> oh
[20:59] <clivejo> btw did you retry kopete?
[21:00] <clivejo> seems to be failing on Depends: kdepim-dev and libkleo4
[21:00] <yofel> I did, need to try this in pbuilder, that error is nonsense
[21:00] <clivejo> was going to do the same thing
[21:01] <yofel> actually, you do that. I need to get started on marble
[21:01] <clivejo> ok
[21:09] <clivejo> yofel: is there any way to search a ppa for a file like we can do in the main archives?
[21:09] <yofel> no
[21:09] <clivejo> that is very annoying!
[21:10] <yofel> feel free to add yourself to bug 335161
[21:10] <ubottu> bug 335161 in Launchpad itself "PPAs should export Contents-amd64.gz files" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/335161
[21:32] <ahoneybun> looks like it is finishing up
[21:36] <ahoneybun> no error messages that I can see
[21:37] <yofel> hm, it did actually build, right
[21:37]  * yofel hits marble
[21:37] <yofel> that'll take hours to do properly -.-
[21:37] <ahoneybun> so LP will take it yofel?
[21:38] <yofel> it should
[21:38] <ahoneybun> I'll try
[21:40] <ahoneybun> uploaded so now to wait
[21:41] <clivejo> and wait, and wait some more
[21:42] <ahoneybun> so LP accepted it
[21:42] <ahoneybun> step 1 
[21:46] <clivejo> yofel: kopete has missing symbols :/
[21:47] <yofel> whee
[21:47] <clivejo> does pbuilder keep the buildlog?
[21:48] <yofel> dunno if it does by default, I use:
[21:48] <yofel> PKGNAME_LOGFILE_EXTENTION="_$(dpkg --print-architecture).build"
[21:48] <yofel> PKGNAME_LOGFILE=yes
[21:49] <clivejo> can I safely fix this package?
[21:49] <yofel> not if it's called libkopete4
[21:50] <clivejo> it is indeed
[21:53] <yofel> lets see if I can build marble 15.08.0 with the rest being 15.07.90
[21:55] <clivejo> yofel: please push this patch - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12113609/
[21:55] <clivejo> just updates the control to 3.9.6 and fixes the watch file
[21:56] <clivejo> I dont know how to do a lib transition
[21:57] <clivejo> but a rebuild on LP might help someone who does
[21:57] <clivejo> need to reboot brb
[21:58] <yofel> CMake Error: The source directory "/tmp/buildd/marble-15.08.0/obj-x86_64-linux-gnu/-qt5-22" does not exist.
[21:58] <yofel> great, now I can debug GNU Make
[22:03] <clivejo> hummm
[22:03] <clivejo> somethings up with kwallet
[22:05] <clivejo> why does it want to know my password over and over
[22:07] <ahoneybun> and it built clivejo :)
[22:07] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-vivid/+packages
[22:07] <clivejo> nice one :)
[22:07] <ahoneybun> https://launchpad.net/~aaronhoneycutt/+archive/ubuntu/kubuntu-vivid/+build/7809587
[22:07] <ahoneybun> yep thanks to yofel 
[22:08] <ahoneybun> of course
[22:08]  * yofel builds marble... again... and now twice...
[22:09]  * ahoneybun thinks clivejo should be moved up one on his belt
[22:10]  * clivejo thinks clivejo has been very stupid
[22:10] <ahoneybun> I miss the terminal widget
[22:10]  * ahoneybun builds Android now
[22:10] <clivejo> kontact is going crazy
[22:10] <clivejo> :/
[22:12] <clivejo> anyone noticing firefox is crashing a lot with flash?
[22:13] <yofel> not for me, although I lately use chrome for flash
[22:15] <clivejo> the chrome flash doesnt have drm
[22:15] <clivejo> so I cant use it for catch up tv
[22:16] <clivejo> where can I get help on kwallet?
[22:18] <clivejo> and report bugs in kontact
[22:19] <yofel> report bugs on kontact: bugs.kde.org
[22:19] <yofel> do mention that you're using the kf5 version
[22:19] <clivejo> its lost all my RSS feeds
[22:19] <clivejo> reset to default
[22:22] <clivejo> do I need a separate login for the bugs portal?
[22:28] <clivejo> yofel: what version is it.  The about says 4.81 beta
[22:31] <yofel> clivejo: I would include that and the package version
[22:31] <yofel> not sure what exactly sitter used
[22:32] <ahoneybun> soee_ i need someone to test the kubuntu-settings 
[22:36] <valorie> terminal widget? why not yakuake?
[22:36] <valorie> <3
[22:37] <valorie> so my wily netbook upgrade worked fine, although restart or shutdown did not
[22:37] <valorie> sudo restart didn't work either
[22:37] <valorie> "could not connect to Upstart"
[22:38] <valorie> someone said earlier that the shutdown not working from the plasma menu was not reported upstream -- what should I report that against?
[22:40] <ahoneybun> Please test my kubuntu-settings 
[22:53] <mparillo> valorie: That was me, and it was when I ran my updates this morning. I sudo poweroff and then I re-started, and could use the plasma menu just fine.
[22:54] <valorie> now it works to restart or shutdown?
[22:54] <mparillo> I assumed that applying the updates removed something that enabled Leave > Shut down
[22:54]  * valorie tries
[22:54] <mparillo> Now it works. I can try again.
[22:55] <valorie> weeee
[22:55] <valorie> yes, it does work
[22:55] <valorie> less work for me! no bug to file!
[22:55] <valorie> \0/
[22:55] <mparillo> So this is not a normal user flow, and since it did not persist, I did not file a bug (plus I did nothink I knew the details to file a meaningful bug anyway).
[22:57] <mparillo> Off to flip the chicken breasts on the grill
[23:07] <valorie> I didn't realize it didn't work before, because I normally just shut the lid, and hibernate or sleep or whatever Just Works