2016/02/01/#kubuntu.txt

[00:01] <bprompt> hmm just hmm I've never set up a media.... how did you set it, you picked out "media" from the pulldown menu for the partition type, when creating the partition?
[00:03] <darksim> No it wasn't available be default so I typed it in
[00:04] <bprompt> har har
[00:05] <bprompt> darksim:   anyway... just do away with it, /media is just mounting filesystem and devices, so, they're just pointer entries, you don't need a partitiion for that
[00:06] <bprompt> I assume you meant that partition for videos, music, documents and such, well
[00:06] <darksim> Yes
[00:06] <bprompt> just rename it then... to ... say    multimedia :)
[00:06] <bprompt> or my documents
[00:06] <darksim> Can I create my own mountpoints?
[00:07] <bprompt> darksim:    what do you mean?
[00:07] <darksim> Well you already have the default stuff like /bin /etc /mnt /usr etc.
[00:08] <bprompt> well, those are not mountpoints, those are actual directories
[00:08] <darksim> Can I just make one new that doesn't exist, name it for instance /newmedia and make that the mountpoint of that HDD
[00:08] <Dragnslcr> Yes, you can mount devices to any directory
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[00:08] <bprompt> can you make a new directory?  heck, you can make as many as you wish, sure, and name it whatever, so long they don't conflict with other devices
[00:08] <darksim> Can it be created in the root directory?
[00:08] <Dragnslcr> Keep in mind that the directory doesn't even have to be empty
[00:09] <Dragnslcr> Yes, you can create new directories in the root directory
[00:09] <darksim> Along etc, bin, mnt etc.
[00:09] <Dragnslcr> You'll need to use sudo, of course
[00:10] <darksim> Dragnslcr: if I'm using the graphical installer on a liveusb?
[00:10] <bprompt> darksim:    in case you haven't noticed at the $HOME directory, there's a ~/Music and  a ~/Videos and ~/Pictures and ~/Documents folders, btw
[00:10] <darksim> Manual disk setup
[00:10] <Dragnslcr> You wouldn't create the directory during the install
[00:11] <darksim> So I'd have to manually set this up post-install?
[00:11] <Dragnslcr> You create it afterwards, then you can mount whatever device you want to it
[00:11] <darksim> Perma-mount it, I don't want it to act like a usb flash drive
[00:11] <darksim> Where it's unmounted until I try and access it for the first time that session
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> If it's a partition on the disk you're installing to, there might be an option to enter the mount point when you format the disk
[00:12] <Dragnslcr> I haven't gone through the installer in a long time, so I don't remember offhand
[00:12] <bprompt> darksim:   for the installation, you only need, "/"  and "swap", is all, partitions wise, just for the install, now, if you want one for your videos and music and docs, create a partitiion, say ntfs and name it "multimedia depot" or so
[00:14] <bprompt> darksim:    $HOME is fine at sdc3, and the ~ folder will already have those directories I mentioned, Pictures, Videos, Documents and Music
[00:15] <darksim> But I can't mount the HDD to all those different folders at once, right?
[00:15] <bprompt> but is not a bad idea to have a partitiion for media only, just don't give it a mountpoint type of "media" =), since it will conflict, as you can see
[00:15] <darksim> Just confused why it worked before and why it's a conflict now...
[00:16] <darksim> I guess I'll have to come up with a new name that's indentifiable
[00:16] <darksim> identifiable...
[00:16] <darksim> I think... /mass will do
[00:17] <bprompt> darksim:   you can't mount w0t?   the system will mount, whatever is in /etc/fstab <--- so, if /etc/fstab has it, even if it's say a dvd or an external hdd or a network one, the system will mount it
[00:17] <darksim> as in mass storage, short name
[00:17] <darksim> Just saying that my computer as of now, has a 1TB HDD mounted onto /media
[00:18] <bprompt>   /mass?   what the?   I think you need to work some more on your naming =P, how about /stuff ?  or /things?
[00:18] <darksim> Faster to type
[00:18] <darksim> stuff looks too sloppy
[00:19] <bprompt> so it's mass =)
[00:19] <darksim> No offense :P
[00:19] <bprompt> hehehe
[00:20] <bprompt> mass? for what? to make bread?  to make tortillas?   is that a molecular mass?     your catholic chums will think you're often at church when they'd see the /mass, so they'd figure you have lots of church "mass" docs =)
[00:21] <darksim> It's multi-use
[00:21] <bprompt> same goes for "stuff" and "things"
[00:21] <darksim> It's like stuff but more academically nonsensical
[00:21] <bprompt> heheh
[00:22] <darksim> works better than mounting it on /dev/null
[00:22] <darksim> at least
[00:23] <bprompt> anyhow... use, whatever works, I myself think mass is terrible, but, different strokes for different folks, it depends, some namings maybe longer, or too descriptive, but they're unambiguous and you can pick them up at a glance when needed quick
[00:26] <darksim> Let's not bring down the world on naming, shall we? ;)
[00:27] <darksim> Next time I'm doing a complete wipe I think I'm going to try LVM at last :D
[00:28] <bprompt> lvm for a 1tb hdd.....oooooookkkk
[00:29] <darksim> Well I have a 256GB SSD too, LVM just seems nifty
[00:29] <darksim> Also snapshot backups and ability to extend/shrink partitions easily
[00:31] <darksim> Anyways, installtion complete, time to reboot
[00:31] <darksim> Thank you! <3
[00:52] <philoniare> is there anyone who has created a custom keyboard layout?
[01:25] <aadasdwe> heeey
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[02:17] <Guest84228> hello
[02:17] <Guest84228> does anyone know a pdf file with terminal commands
[02:17] <Guest84228> for ubuntu
[04:32] <Arazel> Hello.  First time in this channel.
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[05:00] <solvarr> Hey all
[05:00] <solvarr> How do I link an application to an activity?
[05:27] <valorie> solvarr: KDE applications can be linked, others are problematica
[05:27] <valorie> -a
[05:34] <Hank> hey
[05:34] <Hank> hey
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[06:56] <bob2021> Hi.  I'm using lightdm and the kde greeter.  When I boot and then log in, it seems that the machine changes splash screens back and forth like 6 times before the desktop comes up.  Can this be improved upon?  Thanks.
[06:59] <valorie> bob2021: in what version of kubuntu?
[06:59] <valorie> sddm is the default
[06:59] <valorie> I found problems when I had both lightdm and sddm installed
[07:00] <bob2021> valorie: you don't remember me?  I'm hurt :(
[07:00] <valorie> I remember you
[07:00] <valorie> but not your k version
[07:00] <bob2021> I uninstalled sddm.  it's ubuntu 15.10 with kde installed on top
[07:00] <valorie> lol
[07:00] <bob2021> varlorie well its nice to know that i'm more than just a k version to you
[07:00] <valorie> you like lightdm more or so?
[07:01] <bob2021> valorie: i haven't been doing this long enough to have a preference, but i didn't see a reason to change more than necessary
[07:01] <valorie> we used it up through 14.04 I think
[07:01] <valorie> well, you uninstalled the default
[07:02] <bob2021> valorie: well, i installed k on top of ubuntu, so from another perspective, i just restored the default
[07:02] <valorie> I also found kdm installed and also uninstalled that, so you could check for that.....
[07:02] <valorie> sure, and you probably could get better help with lightdm in #ubuntu
[07:02] <bob2021> valorie: no i definitely can't get help in #ubuntu
[07:03] <valorie> why is that?
[07:03] <bob2021> i'm embarassed
[07:03] <valorie> it's a much bigger channel
[07:03] <bob2021> look, what's past is past, i can move on from it, i don't hold a grudge
[07:04] <bob2021> besides, if i was going to #ubuntu, you and I never would have met
[07:04] <valorie> .... for lightdm, I said
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[07:04] <bob2021> is there a reason to swtich to sddm?
[07:05] <valorie> we prefer it because KDE devels prefer it and support it
[07:05] <bob2021> valorie but... what?
[07:05] <valorie> lightdm requires devels to sign a CLA to submit any patches
[07:05] <bob2021> why rather
[07:06] <valorie> and most non-Canonical employees don't like doing that
[07:06] <bob2021> valorie but is there anything better about sddm?
[07:06] <valorie> it is supported by our upstream
[07:07] <bob2021> valorie what about features and all that? appearance? behavior?
[07:07] <bob2021> ohhh wait i remember now
[07:07] <bob2021> the reason i didn't use sddm is that my username never showed up
[07:07] <bob2021> i always got a password box without being able to select a user and i said fuck it
[07:07] <valorie> that's odd
[07:07] <valorie> !language
[07:07] <ubottu> The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[07:08] <bob2021> that was totally English, I'm pretty sure
[07:08] <valorie> please don't make me kick you
[07:08] <bob2021> can we get back to the splash screens?
[07:09] <valorie> multi-user support is coming to sddm, but you are right that right now it is single user
[07:09] <bob2021> and that single user wasn't me, because my password didn't work
[07:09] <bob2021> but any-hoo, i'm really focused on the splash screens
[07:11] <valorie> hey soee
[07:18] <soee> hiho valorie
[07:19] <valorie> soee: were you at fosdem?
[07:19] <soee> valorie: nope but i know lordieva1er was :)
[07:20] <valorie> this chan was pretty quiet with all devels who attended
[07:24] <bob2021> ok lets see if its fixed now
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[08:02] <lordieva1er> Good morning.
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[08:05] <valorie> wb, lord of nickserv
[08:06] <lordievader> Hehe, I forgot I might not have been identified to nickserv ;)
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[13:16] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
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[15:48] <Taggnostr2> is there a way to temporarily disable all the notifications?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr2, yes in the system tray settings
[15:51] <Taggnostr2> BluesKaj, do I just uncheck "notifications"?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> yes, then recheck it whjen you want notifiers
[15:52] <Taggnostr2> I still get a popup from quassel, but no beep
[15:52] <Taggnostr2> also plasma just segfaulted :)
[15:53] <Taggnostr2> and now I got the beep and a weird-looking popup at the top of the screen
[15:57] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr2, update and upgrade
[15:57] <Taggnostr2> I did it this morning
[16:01] <Taggnostr2> BluesKaj, I tried to re-enable and disable them again, and I always seem to get the popup, and sometimes the beep too
[16:02] <Taggnostr2> would switching to a separate activity prevent notifications for apps running on the other activities?
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[16:24] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr2, uncheck notifications in the general mode/options of system tray settings
[16:25] <Taggnostr2> BluesKaj, that's what I did
[16:25] <Taggnostr2> they still are unchecked, but I got popup and beep for the message you just sent me
[16:26] <Taggnostr2> it's the option between media player and networks, right?
[16:26] <BluesKaj> Taggnostr2, the check your irc client setings
[16:26] <BluesKaj> then
[16:26] <Taggnostr2> BluesKaj, I could disable it from quassel, but I was looking for a more general solution
[16:27] <Taggnostr2> also because I would have to disable all the notifications and reenable them again every time
[16:28] <BluesKaj> well one of the advantages of using Konversation is not needing to set that option
[16:29] <BluesKaj> the tab turns is coloured when there's a general message and specifically chosen colour if your nick is used in the chat
[16:30] <BluesKaj> tab text rather
[16:34] <acher88> Is there anything in system settings > start up/shutdown > background services?
[16:35] <acher88> can't recall if knotify etc runs in the background or just on demand?
[16:44] <BluesKaj> acher88, ststus notifier manager was running in start up/shutdown > background services here, but I don't see anything about knotify
[16:44] <BluesKaj> ststus=status
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[16:55] <Guest3642> hi
[17:21] <cortexman> how do i disable alt showing me a "Type your command" window on my right monitor when using Terminal?
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[18:16] <noaXess> hey all and good evening
[18:17] <noaXess> installed 15.10 and wondering if there is any similar as ktimetracker to track times automatically if i switch to another desktop.. in ktimetracker it was possibe
[18:17] <noaXess> and a good feature
[18:18] <Aristide> noaXess: Sorry I know only KTimeTracker
[18:19] <noaXess> hm.. but seams that ktimetracker won't be migrated to KF5 ;(
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[19:08] <marcellus> hi! I just installed Kubuntu 15.10 a couple of days ago and everytime I open Dolphin or System settings, it freezes!
[19:08] <marcellus> It was a fresh install
[19:09] <marcellus> any ideas what can I do?
[19:13] <marcellus_> hi marcellus
[19:13] <marcellus> hi back marcellus
[19:16] <marcellus_> I have the same problem
[19:16] <marcellus_> and I reinstalled but no changes
[19:17] <marcellus> yup. seems like I'll have to go back to 14.04...
[19:18] <drleviathan> I installed 15.10 this weekend (from 14.10) and did not have that problem.
[19:19] <drleviathan> marcellus, maybe you should make a second (test) user account and see if the problem happens there?
[19:19] <drleviathan> I wonder if some kde settings that were migrated over are causing the problem.
[19:19] <drleviathan> or... was a complete clean install that cleared our your $HOME dir?
[19:20] <marcellus> it was a clean installation
[19:20] <marcellus> first I used ext2...
[19:20] <marcellus> then ext4
[19:21] <drleviathan> hrm... maybe disable all advanced eye-candy effects and verify that you have the right video driver (I'm just guessing here)
[19:21] <marcellus> What I did, as I always do, is use just 2GB for swap partition...
[19:21] <drleviathan> I've seen cases where plasma didn't work well because it was still running on the intel chipset and I had an nvidia alternative GPU
[19:22] <marcellus> ... I think I have a hybrid chipset...
[19:22] <acher88> can be problems with those I think?
[19:23] <marcellus> I am using the 'recommended' driver....
[19:24] <drleviathan> maybe disable all eye-candy anyway and try again.
[19:24] <marcellus> ok. I'll try that
[19:25] <drleviathan> btw, when it "freezes" what exactliy freezes?  the whole system or just the dolphin window?
[19:25] <marcellus> for example, I open dolphin and it freezes the whole screen for 1-2 seconds
[19:25] <drleviathan> keyboard also freezes? (do you have access to virtual terminals?  e.g. ctrl + shift + F1 through F5)
[19:25] <marcellus> the when I open system settings
[19:26] <marcellus> or anything that has to do with the system
[19:26] <drleviathan> I see, it blocks for a finite time and recovers.
[19:26] <marcellus> yes
[19:26] <marcellus> it works on after the 2 seconds
[19:27] <marcellus> how do I disable the eye-candy stuff?
[19:27] <drleviathan> yeah, the only idea I've got is that it is trying to so some eye-candy on the CPU
[19:27] <drleviathan> settings --> desktop behavior --> Desktop effects  (I think)
[19:28] <nyan> hey guys
[19:28] <nyan> was hoping for a bit of help?
[19:28] <nyan> when I reboot/shutdown my computer freezes
[19:28] <nyan> ive edited the grub file like a forum said so, and it hasn't helped
[19:29] <drleviathan> "freezes" how exactly?  GUI still visible but mouse + keyboard don't work?
[19:29] <drleviathan> goes black and takes forever to actually shutdown
[19:29] <drleviathan> ?
[19:30] <marcellus> it freezes like when you take a screenshot
[19:30] <nyan> like the kubuntu logo is visible, but the little spinning thing just freezes when I shut down. BUT when I REBOOT, it goes totally black.
[19:30] <marcellus> mouse, keyboard, everything is frozen
[19:30] <drleviathan> sorry marcellus, I was talking to nyan
[19:30] <marcellus> hahha
[19:30] <marcellus> no problem
[19:31] <drleviathan> nyan, still have access to virtual terminals?  ctrl + shfit + F1 through F5 ?
[19:31] <nyan> nope
[19:32] <nyan> nothing works
[19:32] <nyan> at all
[19:32] <nyan> complete freeze/black screen
[19:32] <drleviathan> started all of a sudden? or after a new install?
[19:33] <nyan> It's been starting all of a sudden on Kubuntu and other flavours of Ubuntu too...just out of nowwhere. Never encountered the issues before, my computer is perfectly "healthy" (checked the memory, the disk for errors etc). Don't know what to do.
[19:33] <nyan> And my computer isn't old either, so it's weird.
[19:34] <drleviathan> "and other flavours"... what, you installed new stuff?  or it is already dual booted? or you booted off of DVD or USB?
[19:35] <nyan> Meaning I tried previous flavours before, wiped the drive completely and installed Kubuntu to see if it would make any difference trying difference flavours but evidently it didn't.
[19:35] <nyan> Also read forums of different users encountering similar issues too.
[19:36] <drleviathan> it freezed when you logout? or only on shutdown?
[19:37] <nyan> I honestly haven't  tried log out. I'll try it now and get back to you.
[19:37] <nyan> Log out is fine.
[19:38] <drleviathan> alas, I don't have a good theory about what is wrong
[19:38] <nyan> I know, right? That's what the guys in Ubuntu said too. :P
[19:39] <nyan> Don't worry about it. Thanks for your time. :)
[19:39] <drleviathan> but according to your info it really is during the shutdown itself.
[19:39] <nyan> Yep, it does seem to be the shut down only.
[19:39] <nyan> Strange.
[19:39] <nyan> Might try a reinstall.
[19:39] <nyan> :)
[19:40] <drleviathan> btw, after you reinstall, you "apt-get upgrade" right?
[19:40] <drleviathan> that is, you're apt-get upgraded right now?
[19:40] <nyan> As in upgrading the operating system? I'm using 15.10
[19:41] <nyan> though the issue happened in the previous release suddenly too
[19:41] <nyan> I thought upgrading would help
[19:41] <nyan> :/
[19:41] <drleviathan> the install medium is always out of date on distribution.
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[19:41] <drleviathan> after an install you open an terminal and make sure you have all the latest udpates
[19:41] <drleviathan> that were releases after the install ISO was cut
[19:42] <nyan> Okay, it installed and unpacked 1 update. I'll try reboot I guess.
[19:42] <nyan> brb
[19:42] <drleviathan> nyan, you did "apt-get update" first?
[19:43] <nyan> It prompted me to install updates when I first installed it, yes.
[19:43] <nyan> Downloaded them all
[19:43] <nyan> tried to reboot
[19:43] <drleviathan> ok then, it is unlikly to have been fixed, but good luck
[19:43] <nyan> got the issue again
[19:43] <nyan> i'll try it once more
[19:43] <drleviathan> wow, rapid turnaround
[19:46] <nyan_> nope same issue again :(
[19:46] <nyan_> just always have to power off with the button
[19:46]  * drleviathan does not know.
[19:47] <nyan_> I know you dont.
[19:47] <nyan_> Just gonna chill here for a bit.
[19:47] <nyan_> Thanks for your help though :)
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[19:49] <drleviathan> nyan, I googled a bit.  It seems there were some problems with the grub splash screen.
[19:50] <drleviathan> someone caims to have fixed their problem by "disabling 3D acceleration in the bios" whatever that means
[19:50] <nyan> ah
[19:50] <nyan> could be it
[19:50] <drleviathan> this link.  might be relevant: http://askubuntu.com/questions/236476/how-do-i-diagnose-hang-on-shutdown
[19:50] <nyan> and I found another thing to type in grub file
[19:50] <nyan> I'll try them both :)
[19:50] <nyan> cheers
[20:13] <darksim> I'm liking Kubuntu 15.10 so far. Only a few quirks I want to fix. Like why I can't drag and drop files into Chrome to open them with Chrome
[22:15] <bob2021> valorie: do you think my kde-freezing issues might improve if I switched to wayland?
[22:17] <valorie> hey bob2021, you'll get better information if you ask the chan, not me
[22:17] <valorie> :-)
[22:17] <bob2021> valorie well, so far, kinda the other way
[22:17] <valorie> I've not tested wayland yet, but I hear it is coming along well
[22:17] <bob2021> but ok i'll try it
[22:17] <valorie> ask questions in #plasma where the experts live
[22:17] <bob2021> channel:  Do you think Valorie would advise me to switch to wayland to reduce kde freezes and video issues?
[22:17] <valorie> rofl
[23:22] <Fritigern> So plasma 5.5.3 landed in the backports PPA... I am a little scared to try it out...
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[23:40] <valorie> Fritigern: I've been running it for at least a week
[23:40] <valorie> and am now upgrading to 5.5.4
[23:40] <valorie> you'll be fine
[23:41] <Fritigern> valorie: Remember my pont issues? They are supposedly fixed in 5.5.x so I am quite eager to upgrade...
[23:42] <valorie> I suggest you do that then
[23:42] <Fritigern> pont = font
[23:42] <valorie> you can always ppa-purge if you don't like it
[23:42] <valorie> !ppapurge
[23:42] <ubottu> To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[23:42] <valorie> just set that up ahead of time
[23:43] <Fritigern> I already have it, but thanks for reminding me)
[23:43] <valorie> cool
[23:43] <valorie> restarting for .4
[23:44] <Fritigern> I also have y-ppa-manager which is also a great help
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