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| [03:36] <m_jimmer> Hi there I am creating a application and nothing is showing up after compile All I have is a mainview and a loader under it that has a page that loads . Any suggestions ? | |
| [03:38] <m_jimmer> Here is the code http://pastebin.com/nMFVWQsA | |
| [03:41] <m_jimmer> my main.cpp http://pastebin.com/mzdHfMBd | |
| [03:41] <m_jimmer> I snipped some of the imports but nothing major | |
| [03:42] <m_jimmer> anyways the loader says that everything is loaded up alright . but no window shows up at all. | |
| [03:54] <m_jimmer> If I build the application with out Ubuntu-Componets with my Downloaded Qt kit it shows up and works ... not sure what is going on here. | |
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| [04:30] <m_jimmer> I have to reboot brb | |
| [05:19] <m_jimmer> Ok I think I figured it out. It s not linking to some internal libs. Tim to debug why. | |
| [05:22] <m_jimmer> what is odd is that it builds with no errors and says that it is linked. But when I run ldd the two internals are not found. Super odd | |
| [06:19] <m_jimmer> Note: Ubuntu applicaitons must use QQuickView the QQmlApplicaiton can not render on its own. That must be a bug. | |
| [07:42] <dholbach> good morning | |
| [07:48] <m_jimmer> good morning dholbach | |
| [07:48] <dholbach> hi m_jimmer | |
| [07:52] <m_jimmer> Hey dholbach . Hope that you are doing wonderful . I am doing Ok . deving up a application. Trying to figure out how I can make it so close to Qt default components and also close to Ubuntu ones. | |
| [07:53] <dholbach> I'm doing well, thanks :-) | |
| [07:53] <dholbach> all the best with your app! | |
| [07:53] <m_jimmer> thanks :) | |
| [08:06] <m_jimmer> does anyone know about the Dialogs on the phone ? Like when they pop are they always center in ? Or do I need to do math for x and y ? | |
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| [09:42] <JamesTait> Good morning all! Happy Monday, and happy Freedom Day! 😃 | |
| [09:49] <m_jimmer> So I am making a login thingy at the moment and was wondering whta you all thought was a good passwd. I was thinking of having something like "extremely poor,poor ,Ok, good,Great" I am making this QRegEx and just whanted to see whta you all thought | |
| [09:52] <m_jimmer> Like it is on a scale of 0 -- 100 . Or well if it goes above 100 then it is still 100 | |
| [09:56] <m_jimmer> http://postimg.org/image/wcjdymy7n/ << For a better Idea | |
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| [10:08] <ahoneybun> \o/ | |
| [10:09] <ahoneybun> hola people I'm having issues with Tabs | |
| [10:09] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14848705/ | |
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| [10:22] <mivoligo> JMulholland: Hi! I managed to create other numbers based on those Ubuntu CD covers, so you don't have to find them for me :) | |
| [10:34] <mivoligo> ahoneybun: what kind of problem? | |
| [10:39] <ahoneybun> mivoligo, I can't get my About.qml page to load which causes the whole app not to start in the SDK | |
| [10:40] <ahoneybun> it is the 4th Tab in that pastebin | |
| [10:40] <mivoligo> what error you get? | |
| [10:41] <ahoneybun> Type About Unavailable | |
| [10:41] <ahoneybun> I updated all the files to Ubuntu.Components to 1.3 from 1.1 I think | |
| [10:41] <ahoneybun> but the other Tabs don't give that error | |
| [10:41] <mivoligo> can we see rest of the code? | |
| [10:42] <ahoneybun> I posted the main.qml | |
| [10:42] <ahoneybun> want the About.qml? | |
| [10:42] <mivoligo> yes, please :) | |
| [10:42] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14848811/ | |
| [10:43] <ahoneybun> I'm also getting this: About.qml:25 ListItem.Header - ListItem is not a namespace | |
| [10:43] <ahoneybun> not sure why | |
| [10:43] <ahoneybun> I removed all the ListItems and still it is there | |
| [10:43] <mivoligo> you have "import Ubuntu.Components.ListItems 1.3 as ListItem" | |
| [10:44] <ahoneybun> yes? | |
| [10:44] <mivoligo> 3rd line | |
| [10:44] <ahoneybun> what's wrong with it? | |
| [10:45] <mivoligo> there's no version 1.3 AFAIK | |
| [10:45] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [10:45] <mivoligo> and it's not needed really :) | |
| [10:45] <ahoneybun> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Components.ListItems.Standard/ | |
| [10:45] <ahoneybun> I remove it and the same thing | |
| [10:46] <ahoneybun> the error talks about a line that is not even there anymore | |
| [10:49] <mivoligo> hmmm... that's strange, how do you run it? | |
| [10:49] <ahoneybun> from the SDK? | |
| [10:49] <mivoligo> to the phone? | |
| [10:49] <ahoneybun> no | |
| [10:49] <ahoneybun> I can't even get it to run on the desktop | |
| [10:50] <ahoneybun> I've added back the Header and Standard to the same error | |
| [10:50] <ahoneybun> hell I've deleted the file and still get it | |
| [10:50] <mivoligo> maybe it runs the same build every time | |
| [10:50] <ahoneybun> maybe | |
| [10:50] <m_jimmer> ahoneybun, go to your qt install dir see it is is there. read the qmldir file if you have wrong version | |
| [10:51] <ahoneybun> qt install dir? | |
| [10:51] <m_jimmer> like /usr/lib/x86_64/qt5/qml | |
| [10:51] <m_jimmer> like /usr/lib/x86_64/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/ListItems | |
| [10:51] <m_jimmer> ahoneybun, you can find that out with qmake -query | |
| [10:52] <ahoneybun> but I'm not using qmake | |
| [10:52] <m_jimmer> there is a var call QT_INSTALL_QML | |
| [10:52] <m_jimmer> that does not matter | |
| [10:52] <ahoneybun> I have the dir x86_64-linux-gnu | |
| [10:52] <m_jimmer> qmake is also a command line tool and the command "qmake -query" is just that | |
| [10:53] <ahoneybun> no Ubuntu folder | |
| [10:53] <m_jimmer> what does "qmake -query | grep QT_INSTALL_QML" | |
| [10:53] <m_jimmer> say | |
| [10:53] <ahoneybun> QT_INSTALL_QML:/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml | |
| [10:54] <m_jimmer> what is under /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu ? | |
| [10:54] <m_jimmer> ahoneybun, you just replace the dots in your import with / : ) | |
| [10:55] <ahoneybun> I found the qmldir | |
| [10:55] <ahoneybun> ??? | |
| [10:55] <ahoneybun> I have 1.3 | |
| [10:55] <m_jimmer> : ) what is the error that you are getting on import ? | |
| [10:56] <m_jimmer> maybe you are using wrong kit ? | |
| [10:56] <ahoneybun> it is the desktop | |
| [10:56] <m_jimmer> or lib is not so good ? there are ways to test that also. | |
| [10:56] * ahoneybun throws the SDK out the window | |
| [10:57] * ahoneybun also needs more coffee | |
| [10:57] <ahoneybun> file:///home/aaron/Projects/2.0/.ubuntu-sdk-deploy/main.qml:57 Type About unavailable | |
| [10:57] <ahoneybun> file:///home/aaron/Projects/2.0/.ubuntu-sdk-deploy/components/About.qml:25 ListItem.Header - ListItem is not a namespace | |
| [10:57] <ahoneybun> those are my 2 errors | |
| [10:58] <m_jimmer> ahoneybun, are you sure that the "namespace" | |
| [10:58] <m_jimmer> there it is | |
| [10:58] <m_jimmer> call it something else lol | |
| [10:58] <ahoneybun> what? | |
| [10:58] <m_jimmer> import Ubuntu.Components.ListItems 1.3 as IAmAwesome | |
| [10:58] <ahoneybun> that is what the Docs say | |
| [10:58] <m_jimmer> bad docs lol | |
| [10:58] <ahoneybun> ... | |
| [10:58] <ahoneybun> same thing | |
| [10:59] <m_jimmer> you have to also change About.qml:25 ListItem.Header - ListItem is not a namespace | |
| [10:59] <ahoneybun> and this is why you should not try to fork something | |
| [10:59] <m_jimmer> to IAmAwesome.Header | |
| [10:59] <ahoneybun> ................................ | |
| [11:00] <ahoneybun> same error | |
| [11:00] <ahoneybun> same no matter what | |
| [11:00] <ahoneybun> so I have 2 Run things | |
| [11:00] <ahoneybun> UbuntuBegginer and QML Scene | |
| [11:01] <m_jimmer> Now that is odd. what is ls /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/Ubuntu/Components/ListItems | |
| [11:02] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [11:02] <ahoneybun> so it was some old build I think | |
| [11:02] <m_jimmer> ;) | |
| [11:03] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [11:03] <ahoneybun> so Tabs are handled differently now | |
| [11:03] <ahoneybun> ??? | |
| [11:03] <ahoneybun> my tabs are not working now | |
| [11:03] <m_jimmer> you could also hard run qmlscene by its full path to make sure. and Run ldd against th libs to make sure that there is missing libs . | |
| [11:04] <m_jimmer> ahoneybun, IDK I just started with Ubuntu sdk last night. I just know Qt Real well | |
| [11:04] <ahoneybun> main.qml | |
| [11:04] <ahoneybun> opps | |
| [11:04] <ahoneybun> I'm really crap at it | |
| [11:04] <ahoneybun> my app was last updated 7 months ago | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> so lots of changes | |
| [11:05] <m_jimmer> I gave up on the Ubuntu ui toolkit and made my own because Qml profiler said there was way to may loaders and taking to long for things to load | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> Loaders? | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [11:05] <m_jimmer> but that is just me. I have nothing against it | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/Ubuntu.Components.Tabs/ | |
| [11:05] <m_jimmer> not bashing anything here. | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> source: (tabs.selectedTab === externalTab) ? Qt.resolvedUrl("MyCustomPage.qml") : "" | |
| [11:05] <ahoneybun> I'm wondering if I have to do this now | |
| [11:06] <ahoneybun> this seems to now work anymore: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14848877/ | |
| [11:06] <m_jimmer> ahoneybun, there is nothing wrong with one or two loaders that you use as a Singleton object it is when you haev 10 of them running | |
| [11:07] <ahoneybun> don't make my head hurt anymore dude lol I still have to go to work yet | |
| [11:07] <ahoneybun> I think I might go back to GTA5 | |
| [11:07] <ahoneybun> lol | |
| [11:07] <m_jimmer> what is GTA5 ? | |
| [11:08] * m_jimmer googles sorry | |
| [11:08] <ahoneybun> video game? | |
| [11:08] <m_jimmer> Yeah I jsut seen that | |
| [11:08] <m_jimmer> just * | |
| [11:09] <m_jimmer> I am writing encryotion lib and getting caught in a "what comes first the chicken or the egg " Thingy | |
| [11:09] <m_jimmer> but it is fun :) | |
| [11:10] <ahoneybun> \o/ | |
| [11:10] <ahoneybun> it worked | |
| [11:10] <m_jimmer> awesome :) | |
| [11:10] <ahoneybun> well | |
| [11:10] <m_jimmer> good job. | |
| [11:10] <ahoneybun> the app started | |
| [11:11] <ahoneybun> just missing one tab | |
| [11:11] <ahoneybun> funny | |
| [11:11] <ahoneybun> the one I thought would work | |
| [11:17] <ahoneybun> and it's back up | |
| [11:17] <ahoneybun> everything is working | |
| [11:27] <ahoneybun> always on the first launch the Label is flowing into the Tabs | |
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| [18:01] <popey> balloons, so, what needs doing to un-dead the jenkins zombies? https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/ ? | |
| [18:05] <balloons> popey, aye.. Weird stuff indeed | |
| [18:05] <balloons> popey, it's the ole java.io.IOException: No space left on device | |
| [18:10] <balloons> popey, so I'll reduce the number of builds to keep on everything, and ask IS to clear up some space on the node | |
| [18:10] <popey> how did you know it's disk space, where'd you see that? | |
| [18:10] <popey> oh, i see, click dead :) | |
| [18:11] <balloons> https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/computer/ shows status, and yea :-) | |
| [19:56] <popey> balloons, do i see things getting processed now? | |
| [19:56] <popey> balloons, do i need to manually chug through each merge and re-approve them? | |
| [20:08] <ahoneybun> anyone having Labels over flow to the top Tab? | |
| [20:08] <ahoneybun> but only on the device not in the Local build | |
| [20:19] <ahoneybun> mm the ActionBar does not work right with Tabs I see | |
| [20:35] <balloons> popey, if things got unapproved, yes. But they shouldn't have been toggle off -- they never ran | |
| [20:36] <popey> e.g. https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-calendar-app/sdk-1-3/+merge/284454 | |
| [20:36] <popey> approved, not merged | |
| [20:36] <popey> gah, conflicts | |
| [20:37] <popey> renatu, seen those conflicts on your calendar merges? | |
| [21:34] <balloons> Happy Birthday DanChapman. In a few hours anyway. Nonetheless, enjoy yourself! | |
| [21:37] <ahoneybun> ahayzen, around? | |
| [21:37] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, o/ | |
| [21:37] <ahoneybun> have you had problems with Labels overflowing into Tabs? | |
| [21:38] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, define overflowing? | |
| [21:38] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, and what are they inside? | |
| [21:38] <ahoneybun> the Tab | |
| [21:38] <ahoneybun> let me get a ss | |
| [21:39] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/tqpuKVT | |
| [21:39] <ahoneybun> but once you switch Tabs it is fine | |
| [21:39] <ahoneybun> just on first launch | |
| [21:40] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, hmm, what is the content inside the tab inside? like a Page ? or something | |
| [21:41] <ahayzen> and is it flickable ? | |
| [21:41] <ahoneybun> well each tab is in it's own qml file | |
| [21:41] <ahoneybun> yea | |
| [21:41] <ahoneybun> it does not happen on the desktop though | |
| [21:41] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, maybe the new sdk version has made it worse | |
| [21:41] <ahoneybun> mm maybe | |
| [21:41] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, does it happen on all the tabs? | |
| [21:41] <ahoneybun> I mean I could just take the Label off | |
| [21:42] <ahoneybun> well I have a Label on another tab but it renders it fine | |
| [21:42] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, compare the differences :-) | |
| [21:42] <ahoneybun> and when I switch back to the home tab it looks fine | |
| [21:42] <ahoneybun> I have, I've copied it all | |
| [21:42] <ahayzen> heh | |
| [21:42] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, can you pastebin the tab code for the one that is bad? | |
| [21:44] <ahoneybun> remember it works fine once you switch to a different tab and back | |
| [21:44] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14852592/ | |
| [21:44] <ahoneybun> I do need to file a bug against the lock screen too | |
| [21:44] <ahoneybun> since Dec really | |
| [21:45] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, how is the tab part defined in the other file ? | |
| [21:45] <ahoneybun> I really want to use actions on the listitems to have a button to click to open the links too but that is another story lol | |
| [21:45] <ahoneybun> in the main.qml ? | |
| [21:45] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, yeah that one | |
| [21:45] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14848877/ | |
| [21:46] <m_jimmer> what is the i18n in C++ so I can translate that also ? | |
| [21:46] <m_jimmer> thanks | |
| [21:46] <m_jimmer> example | |
| [21:47] <m_jimmer> QString fooBar = QString("Some Random String that says %1").arg("Hello"); tr(fooBar); | |
| [21:47] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, maybe the Column needs to be anchored to the flickable or needs a height set? i'd have to play about with it to figure it out | |
| [21:48] <ahoneybun> looking at that SS I see that it says About yet it should say Home | |
| [21:48] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [21:52] <dobey> m_jimmer: use standard gettext in C++ | |
| [21:52] <m_jimmer> dobey, not sure what you mean. Here is a function http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14852628/ | |
| [21:53] <dobey> m_jimmer: so you'd just do QString(_("Foo bar %1")).arg("Hello") for example, don't recall exactly which header to include that defines _ though | |
| [21:54] <m_jimmer> ok. there is a thing like in Qt like tr() ? but your guys translation functions ? | |
| [21:55] <ahoneybun> ahayzen, changing the anchor margins of the flickable did something good | |
| [21:55] <dobey> we don't generally use Qt's translations feature; we use gettext instead, as Qt's thing is specific to Qt | |
| [21:55] <ahayzen> heh ahoneybun does it start correct when you then go to another tab and back again? | |
| [21:55] <m_jimmer> dobey, is there a IFDEF for Ubuntu Sdk that you know of ? | |
| [21:56] <ahoneybun> yea when I switch tabs | |
| [21:56] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, and try on the Page putting anchors { fill: parent } | |
| [21:56] <dobey> m_jimmer: i don't think so, no. the ui toolkit APIs are not exposed via C++ | |
| [21:56] <ahoneybun> what margins can I edit just for the top? | |
| [21:57] <dobey> m_jimmer: you could just define all the strings in QML instead, and have the c++ set a property to fill in args as needed, and use the QML APIs for translations then | |
| [21:57] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, topMargin ? | |
| [21:57] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, but really it should work doing fill: parent etc... like it work for us in Music | |
| [21:57] <ahayzen> (our tab component starts here http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~music-app-dev/music-app/trunk/view/head:/app/music-app.qml#L640 ) | |
| [21:57] <m_jimmer> Ok yeah I was thinking that I would set a global var that is if u_sdk then blah blah blah . if not use Qt. I am trying to make this so It is very very easy to compile against Qt with or without the SDK | |
| [21:57] <m_jimmer> thanks dobey ^^ | |
| [21:57] <ahoneybun> in the flickable? | |
| [21:58] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, in the Page {} in the main.qml | |
| [21:59] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, oh! | |
| [21:59] <ahayzen> oh no you already do that | |
| [22:01] <ahoneybun> atm I'm wondering why it says About rather then Home | |
| [22:01] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, ah, magic maybe it is on the wrong tab? | |
| [22:01] <ahoneybun> mhall119, ping | |
| [22:02] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, try setting the currentTabIndex | |
| [22:02] <ahoneybun> ? | |
| [22:02] <dobey> m_jimmer: i don't know what you're writing but if you're just doiong pure Qt, then use the standard Qt translations feature I guess. | |
| [22:02] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, for example ... tabs.selectedTabIndex = 0 | |
| [22:03] <ahayzen> we do that on startup | |
| [22:03] <ahoneybun> that topMargin trick lowers it on when you switch but what ever | |
| [22:03] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, but then does it still say the About rather than Home? | |
| [22:03] <ahoneybun> when I switch to another tab and then Home it say Home the second time | |
| [22:03] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, add to your Tabs {} ... Component.onCompleted: selectedTabIndex = 0 | |
| [22:04] <ahoneybun> mm that currentindex thing is losing me | |
| [22:04] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, i think it is just showing the last one you define | |
| [22:04] <m_jimmer> dobey, Do you know about the confinement of a applicaiton in the sdk? I am writing a app that is a mix between ansible tower and nagios . and was jsut thinking about sftp or scp bindings., That brought up the thought of do I need my own file manager to get access to upload files ect . | |
| [22:04] <ahoneybun> all my tabs? | |
| [22:04] <ahayzen> so Home = 0, Contribute = 1, Family = 2, About = 3 ... so they order you define them get an inex | |
| [22:04] <ahayzen> *index | |
| [22:05] <m_jimmer> property alais tabsChilderen : mainTab.children | |
| [22:05] <m_jimmer> err sorry | |
| [22:06] <ahoneybun> mm | |
| [22:06] <ahoneybun> not sure I'm putting them in the right place | |
| [22:07] <ahoneybun> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14852701/ | |
| [22:07] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, no in the Tabs {} ;-) | |
| [22:07] <ahoneybun> I did :) | |
| [22:07] <m_jimmer> dobey, like if I am to write a exposed QDirAbstractModel or something and then expose to Qml can I read | write to files ? | |
| [22:08] <dobey> m_jimmer: your app can't read arbitrary files from disk. | |
| [22:08] <m_jimmer> System wide. Or do I need to do some tricks. Like switching users with pam or something | |
| [22:08] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, like this http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14852714/ :-) | |
| [22:08] <dobey> m_jimmer: you would need to use content-hub API if you to be able to read files from somewhere | |
| [22:08] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, in the Tabs {} .. not the Tab {} ;-) | |
| [22:08] <m_jimmer> dobey, thanks will look at that code. | |
| [22:09] <m_jimmer> dobey, what about creation of files with QFile QDir ect if I place in application dir ? | |
| [22:10] <m_jimmer> dobey, another reason I ask is because I have encryption lib that is needed to unlock files to log into applicaiton and want to make sure that I can run try and catch against | |
| [22:10] <ahoneybun> nope | |
| [22:11] <ahoneybun> damn Ubuntu.Components 1.3 | |
| [22:11] <popey> haha, i love that a youtube video showing the ubuntu phone terminal is currently at the top of /r/linux :) https://www.reddit.com/r/linux | |
| [22:12] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, does that not even fix the wrong label? | |
| [22:12] <m_jimmer> dobey, or mayb I have to do something crazy like make lxc container for just this application. But then it is like getting to C groups could be real odd and time consuming | |
| [22:12] <ahoneybun> well I had the topMargin on so idk | |
| [22:12] <dobey> m_jimmer: you can only mess with files within the application's XDG directories | |
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| [22:12] <m_jimmer> Is there no way to make the file system more then read only ? | |
| [22:13] <ahayzen> ahoneybun, anyway i've got to go, good luck :-) | |
| [22:13] <ahoneybun> no | |
| [22:13] <m_jimmer> like a trick | |
| [22:13] <ahoneybun> thanks as always | |
| [22:13] <dobey> m_jimmer: i'm not entirely sure what you're doing, but it sounds like you are making things way more complex than they should be | |
| [22:13] <dobey> m_jimmer: there is, but it's not something that people should be doing in general | |
| [22:13] * ahoneybun is tempted to flash Android back | |
| [22:13] <dobey> m_jimmer: if making the root FS read-write is a requirement of your application, you're not developing an application for the phone | |
| [22:14] <m_jimmer> dobey, so say that I want Download a file wih Qnetwork[Acess ,Request,Respond] and I want save to say DL folder then maybe upload to all connected nodes (servers) | |
| [22:14] <m_jimmer> like a git repo or something that has "moduals " | |
| [22:15] <m_jimmer> like bash and whta not that can be run with remote qprocess | |
| [22:15] <dobey> you are making things way more complex than they probably need to be | |
| [22:15] <m_jimmer> download file -> add to JSON or XML -> push to all servers | |
| [22:15] <dobey> because i don't understand at all what you actually need to do, given your description of it | |
| [22:16] <m_jimmer> dobey, do you know what ansilbe or puppet is ? | |
| [22:16] <m_jimmer> also nagios ? | |
| [22:16] <dobey> like i said, you can only write data to the app's XDG dirs | |
| [22:16] <m_jimmer> take the two and put them together that is what I am making | |
| [22:16] <dobey> i've used puppet before, yes | |
| [22:16] <m_jimmer> http://www.ansible.com/tower | |
| [22:17] <m_jimmer> dobey, so Like puppet but with pure ssh . with timers that are used to run remote commands to check on server status | |
| [22:17] <dobey> your app cannot run forever under confinement | |
| [22:18] <m_jimmer> Oh no no background process are allowed ? | |
| [22:18] <dobey> right | |
| [22:18] <m_jimmer> I am glad we are talking aout this now | |
| [22:18] <m_jimmer> I can not make a init script to start app on boot or systemd thingy ? | |
| [22:18] <dobey> the app lifecycle prevents your application from processing while it is not in the foreground with the screen on | |
| [22:18] <dobey> no | |
| [22:19] <dobey> you can't create any apps which requires altering the root FS and put them in the store | |
| [22:19] <m_jimmer> dobey, even if I create a console application that say starts after gui is opened ? | |
| [22:19] <dobey> your app must work within its own confinement, and within the application life cycle | |
| [22:20] <m_jimmer> Ok just thinking of work arounds. maybe I need to have server app(console in container ) | |
| [22:20] <dobey> you can personally create a chroot in the data area of your phone and run stuff in it if you want | |
| [22:20] <m_jimmer> lxc or something on the cloud | |
| [22:20] <dobey> but you cannot do this in a confined app from the store | |
| [22:21] <m_jimmer> dobey, so the applicaiton would need to get approved as something like a "Core application " | |
| [22:21] <m_jimmer> Some sorta special permissions via apparmor ? | |
| [22:22] <dobey> no, i'm pretty sure we're not going to ship something by default which runs constantly in the background to poll ansible servers and run remote commands on them, on phones | |
| [22:22] <m_jimmer> maybe I could make two app's one that sits on desktop . then other that is nothing but kinda api layer | |
| [22:22] <dobey> you need to architect your application within the confines of the app lifecycle and the security polices enforced upon it, if you want it in the app store | |
| [22:23] <m_jimmer> ouch. Ok let me do some more thinking abut the architect of the flow | |
| [22:23] <m_jimmer> could use say zeroMQ to pass data or something like websockets | |
| [22:24] * m_jimmer brain starts wondering | |
| [22:24] <dobey> i don't know what your end goal is, but my suggestion would be to think of something that avoids the need for background processing | |
| [22:26] <m_jimmer> dobey, I think that I got it. I just need to now figure out the "node scripts" Like the modules of puppet | |
| [22:27] <m_jimmer> like send command over websockets (binary ) to server that can download then expose to a custom api | |
| [22:27] <m_jimmer> sorry server being someones desktop | |
| [22:27] <m_jimmer> I wanted to avoid the whole how to depoly with out a master though ... | |
| [22:28] * m_jimmer does more thinking about the chicken or the egg | |
| [22:32] <m_jimmer> dobey, do you know if I can use websockets or any tcp/ipc transport from phone ? | |
| [22:33] <m_jimmer> concern is ports | |
| [22:33] <dobey> m_jimmer: you can talk to the network yes, if your app has the "network" apparmor profile iirc; but you can't run a server on the phone in your app | |
| [22:33] <m_jimmer> \o/ | |
| [22:34] <m_jimmer> now to zeroMq or to websocket ... that is the question :) | |
| [22:40] <m_jimmer> Ok final Question for a while (not to great with xdg so excuse if repetitive) do I have to set my Offline storeage to my app's root dir ? or can it be default ? | |
| [22:41] <m_jimmer> also getting a odd error on the qqmlengine for quit :/ | |
| [22:41] <m_jimmer> Signal QQmlEngine::quit() emitted, but no receivers connected to handle it. | |
| [22:42] <m_jimmer> I have to write hat into my main.cpp I guess. rough | |
| [22:51] <dobey> i don't know what that means | |
| [22:56] <dobey> m_jimmer: sorry, i don't know what you mean by set your offline storage. but i have to go now. good luck | |
| [22:57] <m_jimmer> thanks dobey for all your help it has been very nice of you . But for your future you can look at the docs and find the function | |
| [22:57] <m_jimmer> void setOfflineStoragePath(const QString & dir) | |
| [22:57] <m_jimmer> it is part of the QQmlEngine | |
| [22:57] <m_jimmer> helps with things like sqlight | |
| [22:58] <m_jimmer> and cache and what not | |
| [23:36] <renatu> popey, I removed your branch as pre-requisite for merge. And the conflicts disappears. :D | |
| [23:36] <renatu> popey, did you push anything new since last week? | |
| [23:37] <renatu> popey, this is the new MR: https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/ubuntu-calendar-app/sdk-1-3/+merge/284686 | |
| [23:40] <popey> ok | |