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| [19:01] <RyuKurisu[m]> I don't remember who was using VMs for testing Hirsute, but could I use LXD/LXC for development? Does anyone have any experience? | |
| [19:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> RyuKurisu: if you go that route you need to use the LXD VM approach because the containerization outside of a VM will fail the desktop launching | |
| [19:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> LXD isn't geared for Desktop integration at all | |
| [19:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> LXD VM is LXD managed VMs under the QEMU KVM system | |
| [19:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but still ultimately a VM | |
| [19:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> (I'm one of the few using VMs to test things) | |
| [19:02] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> (but I have the insane system power for it :P) | |
| [19:03] <RyuKurisu[m]> Hmm, something to look into 🧐 | |
| [19:03] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> LXD can work for building packages though. | |
| [19:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> right, LXD as a build environment is very useful | |
| [19:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> or LXD as a test environment for non-desktop needs (servers, etc.) is equally useful | |
| [19:03] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but it's not a good solution for DE testing | |
| [19:03] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Yup, totally agree. | |
| [19:04] <RyuKurisu[m]> I have a very meager laptop, but I don't want to constantly roll back my system, just to test stuff | |
| [19:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> so use a VM | |
| [19:04] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but depends on your environment | |
| [19:04] <RyuKurisu[m]> E.g. changing the image used by XScreenSaver | |
| [19:05] <RyuKurisu[m]> So QEMU KVM is the suggested route? | |
| [19:06] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I think so, it should work even with meager resources | |
| [19:06] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> I use QEMU KVM, others use VBox or VMware's solutions | |
| [19:06] <RyuKurisu[m]> Something like this set up? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozYKkaVK0_A | |
| [19:07] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i used to use VMware's solutions until I discovered LXD has VMs xD | |
| [19:07] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I have an older i5 (3rd gen) and 8 G of RAM and it runs vms fine. | |
| [19:08] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> Virt-manager is good stuff. | |
| [19:08] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> yep | |
| [19:08] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> the only reason I have a 6 core laptop and 32GB of RAM is I do a LOT of memory and processor intense things | |
| [19:08] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> including regular package building locally | |
| [19:08] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> on top of that, i also have at least 7 LXD container driven services that run at boot time to provide network services for my laptop | |
| [19:09] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> (DNS server, data filtration, etc.) | |
| [19:09] <RyuKurisu[m]> I have a Intel Celeron N4000, 4 GB RAM and 64 GB of MMC storage | |
| [19:09] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> that's a bit small for any VMs | |
| [19:09] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> but why 64GB of MMC storage, is the system that ancient? | |
| [19:09] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> or is this like a netbook or something? | |
| [19:10] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> i mean, the OTHER solution would be to pay for a 4GB VPS or something and run your Lubunut tests, etc. there | |
| [19:10] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> which... I've done before :P | |
| [19:10] <RyuKurisu[m]> 'Modern' netbook with touchscreen | |
| [19:10] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> that's not a netbook we call that a tablet :P | |
| [19:10] <RyuKurisu[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> that's no"> It has a fixed keyboard to it 😜 | |
| [19:11] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> I bet you could run A vm it is a little tight, you will have to restrict what you are running. | |
| [19:11] <RyuKurisu[m]> But I can flip it around | |
| [19:11] <lubot> [telegram] <kc2bez> It won't be fast but I think it would work. Especially what you are testing. | |
| [19:12] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> yep | |
| [19:12] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> just make sure that you keep at least 1 CPU core availaboe for your main system, if it's a single core processor you're going to have problems | |
| [19:12] <RyuKurisu[m]> That's what I was thinking | |
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| [20:38] <KGIII> I do daily live testing on an old i5 w/just 16 GB of RAM. I use VirtualBox with its own 'Lubuntu Testing' VM. I throw 8 GB of RAM and 2 cores at it. It's surprisingly performant. | |
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