| [00:50] <callmepk> good morning | |
| [02:35] <illmortal> . | |
| [02:35] <illmortal> Does anyone know if Anydesk requires your ubuntu box to have a monitor attached? I was able to remote into it whiile attached to a monitor but then as soon as I disconnected the monitor.. I have a black screen on Anydesk -.- | |
| [02:44] <duflu> illmortal, not sure but it would not be surprising. Looks like a commercial product so you can get help here: https://anydesk.com/en/contact | |
| [06:12] <jibel> Good morning | |
| [06:31] <duflu> Morning jibel | |
| [06:49] <didrocks> good morning | |
| [06:52] <duflu> Morning didrocks | |
| [06:52] <didrocks> hey duflu | |
| [06:55] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers | |
| [06:56] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN ! | |
| [06:57] <jibel> Hi duflu | |
| [06:57] <jibel> salut oSoMoN | |
| [06:58] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks, jibel | |
| [06:58] <oSoMoN> hey duflu | |
| [07:49] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN | |
| [07:50] <callmepk> hi jibel duflu didrocks oSoMoN | |
| [07:50] <duflu> Hi callmepk | |
| [07:51] <jibel> Hi callmepk | |
| [07:52] <didrocks> hey callmepk | |
| [08:04] <marcustomlinson> morning callmepk jibel duflu didrocks oSoMoN | |
| [08:04] <duflu> Hi marcustomlinson | |
| [08:04] <callmepk> hi marcustomlinson | |
| [08:04] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson | |
| [08:12] <jibel> hi marcustomlinson | |
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| [08:30] <seb128> goood morning desktopers | |
| [08:30] <marcustomlinson> hi seb128 | |
| [08:35] <jibel> salut seb128 | |
| [08:51] <duflu> Morning seb128 | |
| [08:53] <oSoMoN> hey callmepk, marcustomlinson, seb128 | |
| [08:54] <callmepk> hi seb128 | |
| [09:04] <Laney> yo | |
| [09:04] <oSoMoN> yo Laney | |
| [09:06] <didrocks> hey Laney | |
| [09:09] <duflu> Hi Laney | |
| [09:12] <Laney> salut oSoMoN didrocks duflu | |
| [09:14] <seb128> hey marcustomlinson, duflu, callmepk, Laney, oSoMoN, didrocks, jibel, how are you? | |
| [09:14] <marcustomlinson> hey Laney | |
| [09:14] <callmepk> hey Laney | |
| [09:14] <marcustomlinson> seb128: doing ok thanks, you? | |
| [09:14] <oSoMoN> seb128, I'm doing good, how are you? | |
| [09:15] <callmepk> seb128, I am ok, how about you? | |
| [09:15] <duflu> seb128, feeling good today, way better than yesterday. | |
| [09:15] <seb128> I'm alright, I had a decent night for a change which feels great :-) | |
| [09:16] <Laney> guten morgen seb128 marcustomlinson and callmepk | |
| [09:16] <Laney> yeah good, the highlight of my life at the minute is playing animal crossing | |
| [09:16] <marcustomlinson> seb128: good to hear! | |
| [09:16] <seb128> the days are still as challenging though and they announced that they will not lift lockdown for childrens earlier | |
| [09:16] <Laney> I just built a bamboo bench | |
| [09:16] <seb128> lol | |
| [09:18] <Laney> come on the vaccine /o\ | |
| [09:18] <seb128> one year ago I was playing factorio and enjoying south africa weather :-/ | |
| [09:20] <oSoMoN> One year ago I was sitting at my desk, now I'm standing at my desk. Change! | |
| [09:21] <Laney> "must get that broken chair fixed" | |
| [09:24] <duflu> oSoMoN, on that note, I bought a motorised kit to convert my desk and spent a day designing/building over new year. Now I have the same desk top I've used for almost two decades but it's motorised :D | |
| [09:25] <oSoMoN> duflu, nice! I was lazier… I went for an entirely new desk and gave my daughter the old one | |
| [09:26] <duflu> Well, it was a good deal. At the time the kit cost $300-something but the same one is being advertised for $1000 now | |
| [09:27] <didrocks> oSoMoN: ahah, kind of same for me :) standing on the same desk (but a different room though) | |
| [09:30] <marcustomlinson> eh you healthy freaks | |
| [09:31] <duflu> marcustomlinson, actually my main motivation was to sit down with a *lower* desktop. Only now do I discover that I like standing up sometimes | |
| [09:32] <marcustomlinson> :) | |
| [09:46] <oSoMoN> I intend to alternate frequently between sitting and standing, but so far I've found that I enjoy very much standing, so I have to force myself to sit sometimes | |
| [09:50] <Laney> jibel: are you happy with the current version of https://code.launchpad.net/~mfo/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/390637 ? | |
| [09:53] <jibel> Laney, yes, I'm testing it | |
| [09:53] <jibel> I'll merge it today | |
| [09:54] <Laney> excellent | |
| [10:04] <Laney> thanks firefox | |
| [10:04] <Laney> some tabs I tried to send from my desktop to the laptop yesterday just arrived | |
| [10:05] <oSoMoN> slow tabs? | |
| [10:05] <oSoMoN> next time check the same-day delivery box ;) | |
| [10:09] <Laney> it's probably Brexit customs checks at the border | |
| [10:10] <Laney> RikMills: that ubiquity-dm problem you were referring to about the activation environment | |
| [10:11] <Laney> I was going to propose/commit a fix, but what should I look for in the log? | |
| [10:11] <Laney> to know if it's working or not | |
| [10:11] <RikMills> Laney: 2 secs | |
| [10:11] <Laney> and is it the setting of $DISPLAY or $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP? | |
| [10:11] <Laney> nm, just going out for my daily walk anyway, take 1 hour if you want | |
| [10:15] <Laney> a gap in the rain has appeared :> | |
| [10:15] <RikMills> Laney: https://i.imgur.com/UfAfMrJ.png | |
| [10:16] <RikMills> I will check the other part | |
| [10:19] <RikMills> Laney: from my discussion with KDE devs, $DISPLAY | |
| [12:54] <Laney> jibel: RikMills: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/396495 | |
| [12:55] <RikMills> hmmm. not sure how I get that change onto a bootable ISO to test | |
| [12:56] <Laney> add systemd.unit=rescue.target to the cmdline | |
| [12:56] <Laney> systemctl start network-online.target | |
| [12:57] <Laney> then you have internets and a full shell | |
| [12:57] <Laney> after finished hacking, ctrl-d to continue with the boot | |
| [12:57] <RikMills> that is useful to know. I will try to test later today | |
| [14:31] <seb128> Wimpress, hey, do you plan to chair the team meeting? | |
| [14:32] <seb128> I guess not | |
| [14:33] <Laney> FREE TIME! | |
| [14:33] <seb128> #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-01-19 | |
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| [14:33] * Laney gets the football out | |
| [14:33] <Laney> oh | |
| [14:33] <Laney> :( | |
| [14:33] <seb128> Laney, you wish :p | |
| [14:33] <seb128> Roll call: didrocks, duflu, hellsworth, jamesh, jibel, kenvandine, Laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, tkamppeter, Trevinho, robert_ancell, callmepk | |
| [14:33] <marcustomlinson> \o | |
| [14:33] <Trevinho> o/ | |
| [14:33] <callmepk> o/ | |
| [14:33] <hellsworth> o/ | |
| [14:33] <oSoMoN> ⚽/ | |
| [14:33] <jibel> \o | |
| [14:34] <kenvandine> o/ | |
| [14:34] <seb128> oSoMoN, football time? | |
| [14:34] <oSoMoN> Laney said so | |
| [14:34] <seb128> k, let's kick in! | |
| [14:34] <seb128> #topic rls-bb-bug | |
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| [14:35] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:35] <seb128> no desktop there | |
| [14:35] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:35] <seb128> bug 1911473 | |
| [14:35] <ubot5> bug 1911473 in flatpak (Ubuntu Focal) "Update for ghsa-4ppf-fxf6-vxg2" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911473 | |
| [14:36] <seb128> (why is flatpak on our set?) | |
| [14:37] <kenvandine> no idea | |
| [14:37] <kenvandine> never seen it show up before | |
| [14:37] <seb128> probably because MIR process request us to subscribe before the MIR is approved | |
| [14:37] <Laney> yep | |
| [14:37] <seb128> bug #1812456 | |
| [14:37] <kenvandine> although i've been sponsoring flatpak | |
| [14:37] <ubot5> bug 1812456 in flatpak (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libflatpak0" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1812456 | |
| [14:37] <seb128> that's backward and I've been argued about it in the past, but here is not the right place to do it | |
| [14:37] <seb128> I will bring that again to the MIR team | |
| [14:38] <Laney> kenvandine: want to take this sponsoring anyway to be nice? :-) | |
| [14:38] <seb128> anyway | |
| [14:38] <seb128> there is a CVE reference | |
| [14:38] <Laney> or if it's security maybe you can't and the security sponsors need to be subscribed | |
| [14:38] <seb128> so we should probably check with the security team? | |
| [14:38] <Laney> oh they are | |
| [14:38] <Laney> ok | |
| [14:38] <Laney> nothing to do probably :p | |
| [14:38] <kenvandine> i think ahayzen already is | |
| [14:39] <oSoMoN> maybe ask Andrew if he intends to do the bionic update too? | |
| [14:39] <seb128> I will just assing to ahayzen who is already assigned for other series | |
| [14:39] <seb128> he just got voluntered :p | |
| [14:40] <seb128> ok, moving on | |
| [14:40] <seb128> bug #1912168 | |
| [14:40] <ubot5> bug 1912168 in ppp (Ubuntu Groovy) "please merge ppp 2.4.9 for 21.04 and then consider ipv6 default fix for SRU" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1912168 | |
| [14:41] <oSoMoN> it's not even done/accepted for hirsute yet | |
| [14:41] <seb128> cpaelzer targetted it, it seems like a merge we should do and maybe a fix to SRU but the description doesn't convince me it's a rls issue | |
| [14:42] <Laney> yeah I dunno, it doesn't really describe the impact | |
| [14:42] <seb128> without more rational on why it should be a rls target I would vote -1 | |
| [14:42] <Laney> i'd be ok with carding it instead I guess | |
| [14:43] <seb128> trello would be ok, but if it's just a merge to do then I'm unsure why it would deserve a special process | |
| [14:44] <Laney> to make it not get lost | |
| [14:44] <Laney> but ok | |
| [14:44] <Laney> as you wish, I don't really care | |
| [14:44] <seb128> I'm going to ask for details and reject the targetting for now | |
| [14:45] <seb128> if someone wants to trello card feel free, I don't feel like it deserves special attention compared to other merges or issues in launchpad | |
| [14:45] <Laney> I don't think we have any process which is like | |
| [14:45] <Laney> make sure all of the desktop packages are merged | |
| [14:46] <Laney> anyway we could solve that separately I guess | |
| [14:47] <seb128> right | |
| [14:47] <seb128> sorry, I commented now so I don't forgot | |
| [14:47] <seb128> ok, that's it for B | |
| [14:48] <seb128> #topic rls-ff-bug | |
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| [14:48] <seb128> bug #1911802 | |
| [14:48] <ubot5> bug 1911802 in mesa (Ubuntu) "Video glitches playing hardware accelerated video through VAAPI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911802 | |
| [14:49] <seb128> tjaalton, ^ could you review this one? | |
| [14:50] <tjaalton> sure | |
| [14:50] <seb128> if it's a SRU regression I would tend to say we should accept nomination | |
| [14:50] <seb128> other opinions? | |
| [14:50] <seb128> tjaalton, thanks | |
| [14:51] <Laney> right, agreed about sru regressions | |
| [14:51] <seb128> k, let's accept it | |
| [14:52] <seb128> tjaalton, we can always untarget if it turns out to not be needed | |
| [14:52] <seb128> k, let's move on | |
| [14:53] <seb128> it would be better to have Wimpress for the kernel vs hwe one | |
| [14:53] <seb128> unsure what's the intend there | |
| [14:54] <seb128> let's skip for this for now | |
| [14:54] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:55] <Laney> we don't need to skip, that's the design | |
| [14:55] <seb128> could you comment on the bug to say so? | |
| [14:55] <tjaalton> it'll get fixed in 6mo by the next backport but best to at least try to fix it before.. | |
| [14:56] <seb128> tjaalton, right, that would be better if possible | |
| [14:56] <Laney> Łukasz already did | |
| [14:56] <Laney> I think we need to update the referenced documentation though, I will make a note to raise that | |
| [14:56] <seb128> Laney, oh, right, thanks ;-) | |
| [14:56] <seb128> thx | |
| [14:56] <seb128> k, rls tracking | |
| [14:57] <seb128> bug #191143 is for callmepk, I'm going to assign to him | |
| [14:57] <ubot5> bug 191143 in zope.sendmail "queuedDelivery should be overridable" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191143 | |
| [14:57] <seb128> bug #1911432 rather | |
| [14:57] <ubot5> bug 1911432 in wslu (Ubuntu Focal) "[SRU] wslu 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 to focal" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911432 | |
| [14:57] <seb128> and that's it then for focal | |
| [14:57] <seb128> #topic rls-gg-bug | |
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| [14:57] <callmepk> okay | |
| [14:58] <seb128> callmepk, thanks :-) | |
| [14:58] <seb128> callmepk, I meant to follow up on that, I think the regression potential and testcase sections need to be a bit more detailled since it's a non trivial update | |
| [14:58] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:58] <seb128> one bug there assigned to Marco to clean up | |
| [14:59] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [14:59] <callmepk> Okay, I will update it seb128 | |
| [14:59] <Trevinho> yeah, i've to re-review upstream PR | |
| [14:59] <seb128> bug #1911236 | |
| [14:59] <ubot5> bug 1911236 in emacs (Ubuntu Groovy) "emacs FTBFS on s390x because of a failing unit test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1911236 | |
| [15:00] <oSoMoN> this can probably be marked wontfix for groovy | |
| [15:00] <seb128> wfm | |
| [15:00] <oSoMoN> but I still need to look into it for hirsute | |
| [15:00] <seb128> you are working on it? should it be assigned? | |
| [15:00] <oSoMoN> yeah, I'll assign myself | |
| [15:01] <oSoMoN> done | |
| [15:01] <seb128> thx | |
| [15:01] <seb128> k, that's it for G | |
| [15:01] <seb128> #topic rls-hh-bug | |
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| [15:03] <seb128> Trevinho, could you check if the gnome-shell one status and triage as needed? | |
| [15:03] <seb128> unsure there is enough details to accept it as a rls issue atm | |
| [15:04] <Trevinho> ok | |
| [15:04] <seb128> thx | |
| [15:04] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-tracking-bug-tasks.html | |
| [15:05] <seb128> nothing needed there | |
| [15:05] <Trevinho> only wayland one it seems though | |
| [15:05] <Trevinho> so not sure if rls | |
| [15:05] <seb128> probably not, unless we change the default session which we were talking about doing | |
| [15:05] <Trevinho> at least so says the upstream reference | |
| [15:05] <seb128> but it's getting late in the cycle... | |
| [15:06] <Trevinho> well maybe we've still time for that since we're probably not going with 4' | |
| [15:06] <Trevinho> 40* | |
| [15:06] <seb128> we should discuss what we do again | |
| [15:06] <Trevinho> it can be a good test bed | |
| [15:06] <seb128> right, let's put that on the agenda for maybe the friday team meeting | |
| [15:06] <Trevinho> ok | |
| [15:06] <seb128> or emails | |
| [15:07] <seb128> it doesn't feel like we have the right people atm | |
| [15:07] <seb128> k, let's move on | |
| [15:07] <seb128> #topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | |
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| [15:07] <seb128> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages | |
| [15:08] <Laney> I retried libreoffice for dpkg but it's not the only thing blocking that anyway | |
| [15:08] <seb128> nothing obvious on the list, probably some flaky tests and issues that should be investigated but I don't think we will get value reviewing that list now | |
| [15:09] <seb128> didrocks, the zsys build failure seems real, maybe one you could poke at? | |
| [15:09] <seb128> zfs.c:136:43: error: incompatible type for argument 3 of ‘zfs_rename’ | |
| [15:09] <hellsworth> thanks Laney for looking at LO.. i'll take a look today | |
| [15:10] <seb128> k, let's move on, I will card things if needed for proposed migration | |
| [15:10] <seb128> also a topic I would like to discuss in the friday meetings | |
| [15:11] <seb128> we probably don't get much value reviewing that list in the meeting, might be best to just get trello card created and assigned outside the IRC meeting | |
| [15:11] <seb128> #topic AOB | |
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| [15:11] <seb128> anything other topic? | |
| [15:11] <Laney> I don't mind moving things out of the meeting if they still actually keep on happening | |
| [15:13] <seb128> we often fail to act on the proposed migration issues in the meeting anyway, even with that section | |
| [15:13] <didrocks> (toc toc toc, is this is on now?) | |
| [15:13] <didrocks> thing* | |
| [15:13] <seb128> didrocks, it's ON! | |
| [15:13] <didrocks> \o/ | |
| [15:13] <seb128> :-) | |
| [15:13] <didrocks> I can SPEAK now :p | |
| [15:13] <kenvandine> :) | |
| [15:13] <marcustomlinson> spam! | |
| [15:13] <didrocks> seb128: agreed | |
| [15:13] <seb128> damn, didrocks escaped the mute sandbox | |
| [15:13] <didrocks> heh | |
| [15:14] <Laney> ok | |
| [15:14] <seb128> k, feels like we are done :-) | |
| [15:15] <seb128> thanks desktopers! | |
| [15:15] <kenvandine> thanks | |
| [15:15] <marcustomlinson> thanks | |
| [15:15] <seb128> #endmeeting | |
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| [15:15] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:15:11 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-desktop/2021/ubuntu-desktop.2021-01-19-14.33.moin.txt | |
| [15:15] <didrocks> thanks! | |
| [15:15] <callmepk> thanks | |
| [15:15] <hellsworth> thx! | |
| [15:15] <jibel> thanks | |
| [15:15] <oSoMoN> thanks | |
| [15:20] <Laney> why does EDS still tell me about meetings that got cancelled like 6 months ago | |
| [15:30] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility signed tags b0f7ba6 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/3.38.1-1ubuntu1 * gnome-disk-utility Debian release 3.38.1-1ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/yPQy | |
| [15:30] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master bfecec4 Sebastien Bacher * pushed 15 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3Mav4 | |
| [15:30] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 92526bb Juliano Camargo po/pt.po * Update Portuguese translation * https://deb.li/3ACex | |
| [15:30] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 94c975f Boyuan Yang po/zh_CN.po * Update Chinese (China) translation * https://deb.li/FC6y | |
| [15:30] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 9fbf0c3 Fabio Tomat po/fur.po * Update Friulian translation * https://deb.li/3d5I4 | |
| [15:31] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 248937c Efstathios Iosifidis po/el.po * Update Greek translation * https://deb.li/uYtM | |
| [15:31] <KGB-2> gnome-disk-utility ubuntu/master 2ba7a33 Fabio Tomat po/fur.po * Update Friulian translation * https://deb.li/i43Aj | |
| [15:31] <seb128> Laney, I've that problem as well :-/ | |
| [15:33] <Laney> seb128: I found a /!\ next to the online account | |
| [15:33] <Laney> maybe it's failed to sync for that long | |
| [15:34] <seb128> oh fun, auth data expired | |
| [15:34] * Laney has re authed now | |
| [15:34] <seb128> I wish GNOME would give you some notification about such problems :/ | |
| [15:34] <Laney> good idea | |
| [15:34] <Laney> it didn't download any new events yet though | |
| [15:35] <seb128> https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-online-accounts/-/issues/37 | |
| [15:35] <Laney> lol | |
| [15:35] <seb128> oh, apparently that's not the first time I end up there :p | |
| [15:35] <Laney> now I just got told I'm having broadband installed in July 2020! | |
| [15:36] * Laney stops poking EDS now, making it angry clearly | |
| [15:36] <Laney> ok the events appeared now, great | |
| [15:41] <didrocks> oSoMoN: we are talking about bug #1908502 in the MIR team, can you give an update on that one? | |
| [15:41] <ubot5> bug 1908502 in tiff (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[MIR] libtiff5 dependency on libdeflate0" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1908502 | |
| [15:41] <oSoMoN> didrocks, I haven't had time to work on it, no update from me | |
| [15:42] <oSoMoN> (sorry) | |
| [15:42] <didrocks> oSoMoN: any idea when you will get able to look at it? | |
| [15:42] <oSoMoN> hopefully this week | |
| [15:42] <didrocks> that would be excellent, so that I’m not chased in the next MIR meeting by foundation :p | |
| [15:43] * oSoMoN hides behind didrocks | |
| [15:43] <Laney> seb128: good time to go over there and raise your issue, while the mir meeting is ongoing | |
| [15:43] <Laney> assuming they have an AOB section | |
| [16:00] <seb128> Laney, thanks for the hint, I managed to catch their meeting ;-) | |
| [16:17] <seb128> didrocks, why do we need bug #1912307 ? | |
| [16:17] <ubot5> bug 1912307 in abseil (Ubuntu) "[MIR] abseil" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1912307 | |
| [16:19] <didrocks> seb128: mozc is trying to pull it | |
| [16:19] <seb128> didrocks, I was checking but the Build-Depends seems buggy, it doesn't end up being a Depends nor showing on component-mismatch(-proposed) from what I can see so I'm curious how it was raised? | |
| [16:19] <seb128> Build-Depends to universe are fine right? | |
| [16:20] <didrocks> seb128: it is showing on component-mismatch-proposed | |
| [16:20] <didrocks> could be buggy though | |
| [16:21] <didrocks> https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg -> on 4th starting from the right | |
| [16:21] <didrocks> s/on// | |
| [16:21] <seb128> hum | |
| [16:22] <didrocks> let’s see if any binary package deps on it through symbols linkins | |
| [16:22] <didrocks> linking* | |
| [16:22] <didrocks> grrrr ECANTTYPE | |
| [16:23] <didrocks> emacs-mozc-bin_2.26.4220.100+dfsg-2_amd64.deb -> Dep on libabsl20200923 | |
| [16:23] <seb128> didrocks, it does depends on libabsl20200923 | |
| [16:24] <seb128> k, I misread the build log (the Debian one doesn't have the binaries details apparently) | |
| [16:24] <didrocks> and it’s this is in main | |
| [16:24] <didrocks> I just downloaded and check | |
| [16:24] <seb128> weird | |
| [16:24] <didrocks> but TBH c-m-p should help us and show that directly to us… | |
| [16:24] <didrocks> if only we had machine doing this work for us :p | |
| [16:25] <didrocks> (and even better machine*s* :p) | |
| [16:25] <seb128> didrocks, k, thanks, I also misread https://github.com/google/mozc/issues/490 | |
| [16:25] <seb128> it's abseil-cpp which they bundle, not abseul | |
| [16:26] <didrocks> off by one letter! | |
| [16:26] <didrocks> shouldn’t give ***that*** much difference :p | |
| [16:26] <seb128> no, that's a typo from me :p | |
| [16:26] <seb128> but -cpp vs no -cpp :p | |
| [16:26] <didrocks> heh | |
| [16:27] <didrocks> all those libs, we should just bundle them all! | |
| [16:27] <seb128> :-) | |
| [17:01] <GunnarHj> didrocks, seb128: abseil seems to be yet another C++ program without a symbols file. :( | |
| [17:02] <didrocks> yep, let’s make the quality of our packaging higher that way :) | |
| [17:03] <GunnarHj> hmm | |
| [17:09] <Laney> C++ symbols file AAAAAAHHHH | |
| [17:09] <Laney> the stuff of nightmares | |
| [17:10] <seb128> GunnarHj, I'm pondering just dropping the Debian distro patch to mozc that creates the depends... | |
| [17:10] <didrocks> sounds like a past life for me with nux, compiz and unity :p | |
| [17:10] <seb128> but then we have a delta to merge which is annoying | |
| [17:27] <GunnarHj> Laney: I learned that just recently. | |
| [17:27] <GunnarHj> seb128: Well, dropping it is one way. But remember that we already dropped mozc-utils-gui from recommends. What will be the quality in the end of the ibus-mozc package we provide to the users? | |
| [17:27] <GunnarHj> Another approach would be to drop ibus-mozc from main, maybe replace it with ibus-skk or something, and make the complete ibus-mozc be available in the archive for those users who prefer it. This shouldn't be don't without consulting some Japanese speaking users, of course. | |
| [17:28] <GunnarHj> s/don't/done/ | |
| [17:34] * RikMills loves pkgkde-symbolshelper | |
| [19:49] <seb128> GunnarHj, upstream bundles a specific version of that librairie; it's a debian patch that makes it use the system one instead so the features would not be different | |