| [12:25] <lucasvo> hm, ok just rebooting my server... | |
| [12:25] <lucasvo> hope it works | |
| [12:25] <lucasvo> ... | |
| [12:25] <lionel> :) | |
| [12:28] <lucasvo> doesn't look good | |
| [12:29] <lucasvo> I guess I have to hook up my display again | |
| === okaratas iyi geceler.. | |
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| [09:41] <[miles] > morning | |
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| [11:09] <apremoli> ciao | |
| [11:10] <apremoli> Sono nuovo e sto cercando di capire come funziona IRC | |
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| [11:14] <firecrotch> I'm purchasing a dedicated web hosting account, and I can get any distro installed. Since I'm familiar with Ubuntu, should I go with Ubuntu Server? | |
| [11:16] <[miles] > hola apremoli | |
| [11:17] <[miles] > firecrotch, nice.. any distro eh | |
| [11:17] <[miles] > firecrotch, what u want to do with the box exactly? | |
| [11:18] <firecrotch> It will primarily be a server for a set of message boards, as well as some multimedia content | |
| [11:18] <apremoli> Hola miles | |
| [11:18] <[miles] > apremoli, hablas espaol? | |
| [11:19] <apremoli> No only Italian or English | |
| [11:19] <[miles] > firecrotch, well.. I'll briefly tell u my story | |
| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-server:fabbione] : Ubuntu Server *development* discussion | general support -> #ubuntu | |
| [11:19] <[miles] > apremoli, ah ok.. sorry, I speak English and Spanish, but not Italian, but I can understand it | |
| [11:20] <[miles] > firecrotch, I've used SuSE for a long long time... and for servers, their SLES range | |
| [11:20] <[miles] > firecrotch, this is the first time I've setup a server using Ubuntu Server... | |
| [11:20] <[miles] > firecrotch, I'm happy with it actually | |
| [11:20] <[miles] > firecrotch, the one thing I trust implicitly about SUSE's SLES products, is their updates | |
| [11:21] <firecrotch> miles, I was thinking that it would be a good choice, since I am familiar with Ubuntu, and the fact that it is built from Debian | |
| [11:21] <[miles] > firecrotch, and if you've used SUSE, and know YaST2, well, it's one hell of a damn tool... | |
| [11:21] <firecrotch> I only used SUSE for a little while | |
| [11:21] <[miles] > firecrotch, as a rule, I *only* used SUSE for servers.. | |
| [11:22] <[miles] > this is the first time I've broken that rule | |
| [11:22] <firecrotch> Are you happy that you broke your rule? | |
| [11:22] <[miles] > firecrotch, yes, and no | |
| [11:22] <[miles] > firecrotch, the issue to me is *always* security updates, and how timely and stable they are | |
| [11:22] <[miles] > firecrotch, I wont lie, I have more faith in the updates from SUSE that Ubuntu... | |
| [11:23] <[miles] > firecrotch, but that is only due to my experience with SUSE for many years | |
| [11:23] <[miles] > firecrotch, I can't say hand on heart, "Yeah, Ubuntu Servers updates are rock solid, timely, well tested, etc" | |
| [11:23] <[miles] > firecrotch, but I would say exactly the same regarding CentOS also | |
| [11:24] <[miles] > firecrotch, also, SLES 10 for example, is not expensive at all | |
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| [11:24] <firecrotch> I should mention that I have issues with SUSE/Novell | |
| [11:24] <[miles] > welcome skar | |
| [11:25] <[miles] > firecrotch, what exactly? | |
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| [11:25] <skar> hi miles | |
| [11:25] <firecrotch> deep seated religious-like issues with the fact that Novell has anything to do with Microsoft | |
| [11:25] <firecrotch> :P | |
| [11:25] <skar> any package of sqlgrey available?!! | |
| [11:26] <[miles] > firecrotch, ok, thats more political than technical tho | |
| [11:27] <firecrotch> Heh, yeah. | |
| [11:27] <[miles] > firecrotch, I've worked with SUSE for 7 years | |
| [11:27] <[miles] > firecrotch, I've seen it change a lot | |
| [11:27] <[miles] > firecrotch, fragment | |
| [11:27] <[miles] > firecrotch, etc | |
| [11:27] <[miles] > firecrotch, just gotta role with it | |
| [11:27] <[miles] > firecrotch, it's a damn fine distro for enterprise solutions, and it kicks the shit out of RHEL | |
| [11:28] <[miles] > skar, lets have a look | |
| [11:28] <[miles] > skar, http://sqlgrey.sourceforge.net/ | |
| [11:28] <[miles] > skar, of that yeah? | |
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| [11:28] <skar> m$ bought suse's friendship or something like that, nothing bad there for us users | |
| [11:29] <skar> no big corp can be against users for so long | |
| [11:29] <firecrotch> miles, so what I'm basically hearing is that you're most inclined towards SUSE because you're more familiar with it? | |
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| [11:29] <[miles] > firecrotch, better to say it has my trust | |
| [11:29] <[miles] > firecrotch, I can move freely between distros without problem | |
| [11:30] <firecrotch> Gotcha. | |
| [11:30] <[miles] > firecrotch, security..security...security | |
| [11:30] <firecrotch> Ubuntu (with it's Debian base :) ) has my trust | |
| [11:30] <[miles] > firecrotch, I just trust their patching | |
| [11:30] <skar> miles: yup already using sqlgrey in gentoo for my devel system, but for server ubuntu et al seem better but no deb for the best greylisting server :( | |
| [11:30] <[miles] > skar, sudo aptitude show postgrey | |
| [11:31] <[miles] > skar, that package is with ubuntu | |
| [11:31] <[miles] > skar, that any use to u? | |
| [11:32] <skar> yup but postgrey is too primitive and poor on features | |
| [11:32] <[miles] > ok | |
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| [11:32] <[miles] > mmm, can u compile from source? | |
| [11:32] <[miles] > and build your own .deb if required? | |
| [11:34] <firecrotch> miles, thanks a lot for your input | |
| [11:35] <[miles] > firecrotch, please don't think I'm knocking Ubuntu Server, cos' im not | |
| [11:35] <[miles] > firecrotch, just to me, time will tell | |
| [11:36] <[miles] > firecrotch, I believe it's in it's infancy | |
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| [11:41] <skar> miles: yes thats the option other than source install(its perl anyway) | |
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| [01:23] <lucasvo> hm, can someone help me with XEN? | |
| === [miles] runs | |
| [01:26] <lucasvo> [miles] : well I haven't even been able to boot my xen kernel | |
| [01:26] <[miles] > lucasvo, sorry, I have noooo idea | |
| [01:26] <[miles] > one sec, I have a mate who does Xen in Ubuntu... | |
| [01:26] <[miles] > let me see if I can get him to join | |
| [01:29] <[miles] > lucasvo, he's a bit busy atm, but he'll join shortly | |
| [01:30] <lucasvo> ty | |
| [01:31] <lucasvo> current status: reboots after it tries to load the kernel... :( | |
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| [01:36] <lucasvo> thefish: you know xen? | |
| [01:36] <thefish> lucasvo: a little, what do you need to know? | |
| [01:36] <lucasvo> well I want to install it on edgy :) | |
| [01:36] <thefish> ok cool | |
| [01:36] <thefish> ive never done that, but i cant imagine its too tough | |
| [01:36] <thefish> you need to run a xen kernel | |
| [01:37] <thefish> so you will need to build your own | |
| [01:37] <thefish> ps, whoever decided that #ubuntu-server should be about development might want to think again | |
| === thefish tries to stay polite | |
| [01:37] <thefish> #ubuntu-development may have been a slightly more intelligent choice | |
| [01:38] <thefish> with #ubuntu-server doing what it says on the tin, serving as a place to discuss and get help for ubuntu SERVER | |
| [01:38] <thefish> ffs | |
| === thefish kicks a small child to get rid of the frustration | |
| [01:39] <thefish> lucasvo: now thats over with, if you find a howto for dapper it should work | |
| === [miles] complains about being kicked by thefish | |
| [01:40] <thefish> you basically need to: get zen patches against a certain kernel -> download that kernel -> patch it -> configure it with xen support -> build it -> boot it | |
| [01:40] <thefish> you can use the same kernel for guests and the host | |
| [01:41] <lucasvo> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenVirtualMachine/XenOnUbuntuEdgy | |
| [01:42] <lucasvo> this doesn't seem to work for me | |
| [01:42] <lucasvo> and it is outdated | |
| [01:42] <thefish> aah ok, so theres a xen kernel in universe | |
| [01:43] <thefish> lucasvo: where do you get stuck? | |
| [01:44] <thefish> if you get stuck on boot, check the path to your /boot | |
| [01:44] <lucasvo> thefish: the path is correct | |
| [01:45] <thefish> you may need just /xen-3.0-i386.gz etc | |
| [01:45] <lucasvo> it can load the modules but hten it reboots without warning | |
| [01:45] <thefish> so where are you getting stuck? can you boot dom0? | |
| [01:45] <lucasvo> no | |
| [01:45] <thefish> ah | |
| [01:45] <lucasvo> I can't boot | |
| [01:45] <lucasvo> but grub can load the modules | |
| [01:46] <thefish> make sure you have root= correct as well | |
| [01:47] <thefish> sorry lucasvo i need to go, may be back in a bit - try joining #xen maybe? | |
| [01:47] <thefish> seeya | |
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| [01:49] <J_P> hi all | |
| [01:49] <J_P> people, is possible install apache2_mod_python and apache2_mod_php one same server ? | |
| [01:52] <[miles] > guys, I'm getting this error: | |
| [01:53] <[miles] > [21577] dbg: ldap: loading Net::LDAP and URI | |
| [01:53] <[miles] > [21577] error: Can't locate Encode/ConfigLocal.pm in @INC (@INC contains: lib ../lib /usr/share/perl5 /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.7 /usr/local/share/pe | |
| [01:53] <[miles] > rl/5.8.7 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl) at /usr/lib/perl/5.8/Encode.pm line 52. | |
| [01:53] <[miles] > any ideas what package im missing? | |
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| [02:59] <skar> uuencode?!? | |
| [03:03] <[miles] > back | |
| [03:04] <[miles] > skar, dunno | |
| [03:08] <skar> hmm try installing Encode | |
| [03:08] <skar> thats what it says | |
| [03:09] <[miles] > http://use.perl.org/~TeeJay/journal/22506 | |
| [03:09] <[miles] > did that | |
| [03:09] <[miles] > now, no errors | |
| [03:09] <[miles] > ;) | |
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| [03:53] <drarem> is it really necessary for all these forums to make you type in some code you can barely read to authenticate you are a human and then fill out a registration email to say you are who you say you are just to be able to post a dumb reply to a dumb message? | |
| [03:57] <[miles] > yes | |
| [03:57] <[miles] > totally | |
| [03:57] <[miles] > justified | |
| [03:57] <[miles] > ;) | |
| [04:01] <drarem> some of those things are hard to read - I want to slap the webmaster and make him read a text in that | |
| [04:01] <drarem> textbook | |
| [04:02] <drarem> /rant | |
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| [04:31] <levander`> I've got some empty test database in my MySQL 5.0 server. Is this something the install scripts put there for a purpose, or did I just put it in there? | |
| [04:31] <levander`> Do you guys have a test database in your server? | |
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| [04:44] <drarem> i think it puts a sample database in there | |
| [04:45] <drarem> what's the database name | |
| [04:51] <mralphabet> drarem: the users suffer a slight inconvenience or the users suffer a forum full of spam posts . . . your pick | |
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| [05:14] <J_P> hey all, anyone here has installed with sucess (subversion + trac + ssl) and (DotProject) on ubuntu ? | |
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| [05:30] <J_P> anyone use SVN or DotProject on Ubuntu ? | |
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| [09:33] <CarlFK> [ 137.878574] cs4232-pnpbios: probe of 01:01.00 failed with error -2 | |
| [09:33] <CarlFK> [ 137.878674] CS4232 soundcard not found or device busy | |
| [09:33] <CarlFK> why is -server doing anything with sound cards? | |
| [09:37] <tmh__> why wouldn't it be? why would the modules be removed from -server? is there some problem with it using your sound card? | |
| [09:44] <CarlFK> space, and what ever other advantages server has over desktop | |
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