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| [03:34] <LaserJock> cprov: I don't understand why debian/copyright wouldn't be necessary? Did seb128 give a rationale? | |
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| [03:55] <kduboi1> why don't you get karma for writing and committing code? | |
| [04:11] <cprov> LaserJock: some sources simply do not contain debian/copyright, sometimes because they use a template (copyright.in as php4) or because they have special mechanisms to handle multiple copyright (as linux-source). | |
| [04:13] <cprov> LaserJock: what seb128 requested (and was supported by cjwatson and infinity) is to cope with empty/missing debian/copyright for now, until we have a better idea about how many packages are in this situation. | |
| [04:13] <cprov> LaserJock: does it sound more correct (feasible) to you ? | |
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| [04:48] <LaserJock> cprov: yes, I was thinking he was talking about them being able to have no copyright info at all in debian/ which is not good | |
| [04:48] <LaserJock> cprov: but yeah, I've run across packages before with copyright.in or multiple copyright files | |
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| [06:07] <norsetto> *cough * * cough* | |
| [06:10] <norsetto> anyone that could know how to build a debian package on a PPA? (without the need to change the source package obviously) | |
| [06:15] <norsetto> perhaps editing the override file? | |
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| [08:01] <mpt> Goooooooooooooood morning Launchpadders! | |
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| [08:23] <MFen> where launchpad talks about blueprints, it suggests using a wiki if the blueprint needs a detailed discussion | |
| === beuno pics it up and hands it back | |
| [08:23] <MFen> does anyone have a suggestion for what the wiki should be? | |
| [08:23] <MFen> i haven't seen one *in* launchpad, so i'm assuming the feature is intended to be used with an externally-hosted wiki | |
| [08:24] <beuno> MFen: the best way is to look at some examples: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/rosetta/+spec/rosetta-stats-enhancement | |
| [08:25] <MFen> hmm, true | |
| [08:26] <mpt> MFen, it's intended to be used with a project's own wiki | |
| [08:26] <MFen> mpt: assuming we do things like, host a wiki. :) | |
| [08:28] <mpt> yes | |
| [08:28] <mpt> Eventually we hope to be able to host them in Launchpad | |
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| [08:50] <ubotu> New bug: #134758 in malone "Record who subscribed each subscriber to a bug report" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134758 | |
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| [09:11] <ubotu> New bug: #134761 in launchpad "Label missing on second password entry during registration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/134761 | |
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| [09:48] <mayeco> can I make create a new project and register a new branch in launchpad just to learn and test the bzr? | |
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| [10:06] <_SiLENT_> what is launchpad? | |
| [10:06] <MFen> http://launchpad.net/ | |
| [10:06] <_SiLENT_> i wanted to order ubuntu cds and ended up here | |
| [10:07] <_SiLENT_> why it is not working | |
| [10:09] <Nafallo> it is? | |
| [10:09] <_SiLENT_> it is not | |
| [10:09] <_SiLENT_> maintenance | |
| [10:10] <Nafallo> have you created a login so that you can login and proceed with your shipit request? | |
| [10:10] <Nafallo> oh. how nice. | |
| [10:10] <_SiLENT_> when will I be able to enter? | |
| [10:10] <_SiLENT_> I want ubuntu | |
| [10:10] <Nafallo> works for me | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> Sorry, you can't do this right now | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> Launchpad is currently offline for maintenance. We're sorry that this means you can't use it right now. The good news is that it will be back online soon. | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> You can find out more about why Launchpad is offline at: | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> http://news.launchpad.net/maintenance | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> You can also receive notification of scheduled downtime by signing up to the Launchpad Users mailing list. | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> Thanks for your patience while we work to improve Launchpad. | |
| [10:11] <_SiLENT_> The Launchpad team | |
| [10:11] <beuno> _SiLENT_: try refreshing, you might of hit a bad server | |
| [10:12] <beuno> control + f5 | |
| [10:12] <Nafallo> there is no maintaince at the moment, right? | |
| [10:13] <beuno> Nafallo: I don't recall having an announced maintance announcement | |
| [10:13] <beuno> and it's working for me :D | |
| [10:13] <mayeco> _SiLENT_: you can order cds here : https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ | |
| [10:13] <Nafallo> that's what I thought. | |
| [10:14] <mayeco> to order cds you need a launchpad account | |
| [10:14] <mayeco> so create and order the cd's | |
| [10:17] <_SiLENT_> what is difference between ebuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu? | |
| [10:18] <mayeco> edubuntu is for kids and to learn | |
| [10:18] <_SiLENT_> for me :) | |
| [10:18] <mayeco> kubuntu is ubuntu with kde desktop enviroment | |
| [10:18] <_SiLENT_> wht is kde ? | |
| [10:18] <mayeco> and ubuntu is gnome | |
| [10:18] <mayeco> is a desktop enviroment | |
| [10:18] <mayeco> is like the look and feel | |
| [10:18] <_SiLENT_> and what is gnome? | |
| [10:18] <mayeco> other desktop enviroment | |
| [10:19] <_SiLENT_> kubuntu is like windows? | |
| [10:19] <mayeco> you can see some screenshoots in google | |
| [10:19] <mayeco> use "gnome" and find images | |
| [10:19] <mayeco> or "kde" and find images | |
| [10:19] <_SiLENT_> ok thx | |
| [10:19] <_SiLENT_> can i order all three ubuntus? | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> sure | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> but first you need a launchpad accout | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> account | |
| [10:20] <_SiLENT_> *request | |
| [10:20] <_SiLENT_> i did | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> go here: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/ | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> login | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> with your launchpad email | |
| [10:20] <mayeco> and password | |
| [10:21] <_SiLENT_> i already requested ubuntu | |
| [10:21] <mayeco> ahhh and you get it? | |
| [10:21] <_SiLENT_> i am adding others | |
| [10:21] <_SiLENT_> ebuntu | |
| [10:21] <mayeco> ahh ok | |
| [10:21] <_SiLENT_> if version changes | |
| [10:21] <mayeco> they maybe.. send you edubuntu and kubuntu | |
| [10:21] <mayeco> the most common is ubuntu | |
| [10:22] <_SiLENT_> will I be able to request again? | |
| [10:22] <mayeco> yes | |
| [10:22] <_SiLENT_> I'm requesting to Russia, I wonder if it'll come :) | |
| [10:22] <mayeco> I request my cd's here | |
| [10:23] <mayeco> to Panama, Central america | |
| [10:23] <mayeco> and I get it here | |
| [10:23] <_SiLENT_> is Ubuntu the best nix system? | |
| [10:23] <mayeco> Ubuntu is a distribution | |
| [10:23] <mayeco> but... I think is one of the best | |
| [10:24] <mayeco> there are many distributions | |
| [10:24] <_SiLENT_> what other nixes are available? | |
| [10:24] <mayeco> suse, red hat, mandriva, debian(ubuntu father) etc..... | |
| [10:24] <mayeco> yes | |
| [10:24] <MFen> those are all linuxes | |
| [10:24] <mayeco> there are many manymany | |
| [10:24] <_SiLENT_> ooohhh | |
| [10:24] <_SiLENT_> I wanna know which is best | |
| [10:24] <_SiLENT_> btw | |
| [10:24] <mayeco> you can see all here : http://distrowatch.com/ | |
| [10:25] <mayeco> maybe not all but most | |
| [10:25] <_SiLENT_> the programs for linux | |
| [10:25] <MFen> you linux bigot :) openbsd, solaris, aix are others | |
| [10:25] <MFen> but you probably want ubuntu, based on your questions | |
| [10:25] <_SiLENT_> they are compatible with all nix systems? | |
| [10:25] <MFen> it is the easiest to install, and is missing nothing | |
| [10:25] <_SiLENT_> the same programs go for all nixes? | |
| [10:25] <MFen> no | |
| [10:25] <_SiLENT_> no?? | |
| [10:26] <_SiLENT_> different programs for different systems? | |
| [10:26] <MFen> it's complicated. a program compiled to run on one linux probably runs on most of the others | |
| [10:26] <_SiLENT_> ok | |
| [10:26] <MFen> and openbsd as well, for that matter | |
| [10:26] <_SiLENT_> openbsd is also nix> | |
| [10:26] <_SiLENT_> ? | |
| [10:27] <MFen> yes. openbsd is unix, but it isn't linux. forget i said it, because what you want is ubuntu. | |
| [10:27] <_SiLENT_> lol | |
| [10:27] <_SiLENT_> unix linux | |
| [10:27] <_SiLENT_> God help | |
| [10:27] <_SiLENT_> :) | |
| [10:27] <_SiLENT_> Ubuntu ubuntu ubuntu | |
| [10:27] <MFen> hey, windows isn't much better. there's about 8 versions of that too | |
| [10:28] <MFen> not even counting ultimate vs professional vs. corporate vs. chunky peanut butter flavors | |
| [10:28] <mayeco> hey | |
| [10:28] <_SiLENT_> I know only three | |
| [10:28] <_SiLENT_> we don't count obsolete ones! | |
| [10:29] <_SiLENT_> 95, 98 Me | |
| [10:29] <mayeco> MFen: dont talk about how bad is windows, talk about how good ubuntu and gnu/linux | |
| [10:29] <mayeco> please | |
| [10:29] <_SiLENT_> now is only XP and Vista | |
| [10:29] <MFen> i didn't say windows was bad | |
| [10:29] <MFen> anyway, this is all very offtopic | |
| [10:29] <mayeco> yes but... is not good | |
| [10:29] <mayeco> my opinion | |
| [10:29] <mayeco> offtopic right? | |
| [10:29] <_SiLENT_> nix is harder | |
| [10:30] <mayeco> but KDE is very easy | |
| [10:30] <mayeco> you should try it | |
| [10:30] <_SiLENT_> Kubuntu? | |
| [10:30] <mayeco> yeah | |
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| [10:30] <_SiLENT_> ok, I finished requesting all three | |
| [10:30] <_SiLENT_> will see | |
| [10:30] <mayeco> it's easy to use and very nice | |
| [10:30] <_SiLENT_> in 6-10 weeks :) | |
| [10:30] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:31] <MFen> ok, i'm off to install OS X. :P | |
| [10:31] <MFen> which is also unix! | |
| [10:31] <MFen> bbl | |
| [10:31] <mayeco> mmm wait | |
| [10:31] <mayeco> i dont remember | |
| [10:31] <_SiLENT_> don't tell! | |
| [10:31] <mayeco> wiki | |
| [10:31] <_SiLENT_> I am also going | |
| [10:31] <_SiLENT_> thx for help | |
| [10:31] <_SiLENT_> bye | |
| [10:31] <mayeco> ok | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> np | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> hey | |
| [10:32] <_SiLENT_> wht? | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> and tell your friends they have options | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> not the same OS in the PCs ubuntu | |
| [10:32] <_SiLENT_> wht options? | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> now you have ubuntu and many linux distros | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> not the same os | |
| [10:32] <mayeco> get it? | |
| [10:32] <_SiLENT_> nope | |
| [10:33] <_SiLENT_> what do u mean? | |
| [10:33] <badders> Is the code that lets you look over the source on codebrowse.launchpad.net open source and available anywhere? | |
| [10:33] <mayeco> that you now have options to install other operative sistem in your pcs | |
| [10:33] <_SiLENT_> "and many linux distros" | |
| [10:33] <_SiLENT_> ? | |
| [10:33] <mayeco> yes | |
| [10:33] <mayeco> I found it | |
| [10:33] <mayeco> is darwin | |
| [10:33] <_SiLENT_> what distros | |
| [10:33] <mayeco> http://distrowatch.com/ | |
| [10:34] <mayeco> the Darwin is the macos nix | |
| [10:34] <mayeco> sooo | |
| [10:34] <mayeco> install in all your pcs | |
| [10:34] <mayeco> and tell all your friends do the same | |
| [10:34] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:35] <_SiLENT_> i will install ubuntu everywhere? | |
| [10:35] <mayeco> yes! | |
| [10:35] <mayeco> hehehe | |
| [10:35] <_SiLENT_> u want me to promote ur free stuff, for short | |
| [10:35] <mayeco> install ubuntu in everywhere | |
| [10:35] <mayeco> you should do it | |
| [10:35] <_SiLENT_> y | |
| [10:35] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:36] <mayeco> that way we all win | |
| [10:36] <mayeco> and the bad guys lose | |
| [10:36] <_SiLENT_> what if I am a commercial soft developer :D | |
| [10:36] <mayeco> you can help anyway | |
| [10:37] <_SiLENT_> hey | |
| [10:37] <mayeco> with parts of code | |
| [10:37] <mayeco> what? | |
| [10:37] <_SiLENT_> but windos is soooo compatible | |
| [10:37] <mayeco> yes | |
| [10:37] <_SiLENT_> and nixes aren't | |
| [10:38] <mayeco> now we have free drivers and more compatible | |
| [10:38] <mayeco> now is diferent | |
| [10:38] <mayeco> is not like 4 or 5 years ago | |
| [10:38] <_SiLENT_> i don't mean only hardware | |
| [10:38] <mayeco> we have more compatible and better drivers | |
| [10:38] <mayeco> what you mean? | |
| [10:38] <_SiLENT_> software too | |
| [10:38] <_SiLENT_> for example | |
| [10:38] <_SiLENT_> IE ActiveX | |
| [10:39] <_SiLENT_> is used in some e-bank I use | |
| [10:39] <mayeco> you can use you ie activeX in linux | |
| [10:39] <mayeco> you can run ie in ubuntu | |
| [10:39] <mayeco> www.tatanka.com.br/ | |
| [10:40] <_SiLENT_> look, windos is as free to me as lininix is :) | |
| [10:40] <_SiLENT_> wht should I worry | |
| [10:40] <mayeco> is not about the cost | |
| [10:40] <_SiLENT_> about what? | |
| [10:40] <mayeco> ubuntu should cost more that 1000 dolars | |
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| [10:40] <mayeco> is about freedom | |
| [10:40] <mayeco> nodoby is in your pc, no spyware | |
| [10:40] <_SiLENT_> wht free with ma WinXP :) | |
| [10:41] <_SiLENT_> I am free | |
| [10:41] <mayeco> no company is lokking your stuff | |
| [10:41] <mayeco> no | |
| [10:41] <mayeco> with windows | |
| [10:41] <_SiLENT_> it's exactly like that with me right now | |
| [10:41] <_SiLENT_> no one locks me lol | |
| [10:41] <mayeco> the best spyware in the world is windows xp | |
| [10:41] <mayeco> that is not freedom... | |
| [10:41] <_SiLENT_> no one spies me | |
| [10:42] <mayeco> the best spyware spy and the user dont know | |
| [10:42] <mayeco> becouse that is the best | |
| [10:42] <_SiLENT_> lol | |
| [10:42] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:42] <mayeco> is not about cost | |
| [10:42] <mayeco> is about freedom | |
| [10:42] <_SiLENT_> exactly | |
| [10:42] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:42] <_SiLENT_> exactly | |
| [10:42] <_SiLENT_> I am right now cost-free | |
| [10:42] <_SiLENT_> and overall free | |
| [10:43] <_SiLENT_> and also am free of investigating linux | |
| [10:43] <mayeco> yes | |
| [10:43] <mayeco> is nice | |
| [10:43] <_SiLENT_> y should i lose the 3rd freedom? :) | |
| [10:43] <mayeco> mmmmmmm i dont get it | |
| [10:43] <mayeco> hehehhehee | |
| [10:43] <mayeco> check this | |
| [10:43] <mayeco> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_rights_management | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> i know what it is | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> I don't care | |
| [10:44] <mayeco> vista do that thing | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> it doesn't touch me | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> vista do it? | |
| [10:44] <mayeco> yes | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> how? | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> and where? | |
| [10:44] <mayeco> ahhaa I dont know | |
| [10:44] <mayeco> never use vista | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> lol | |
| [10:44] <mayeco> i just heard that | |
| [10:44] <mayeco> hahahahahhahaa | |
| [10:44] <_SiLENT_> u know what i think? | |
| [10:45] <mayeco> i never touch a vista pc | |
| [10:45] <mayeco> what do you think? | |
| [10:45] <_SiLENT_> i think everything will be okie-dokie with vista | |
| [10:45] <_SiLENT_> as it was with XP and 98 | |
| [10:46] <_SiLENT_> it will be nicely cracked and place in a nifty cd in local store here | |
| [10:46] <_SiLENT_> *placed | |
| [10:46] <_SiLENT_> and i will buy it for $2 | |
| [10:46] <_SiLENT_> and thank Bill Gates | |
| [10:46] <_SiLENT_> +pirates | |
| [10:46] <_SiLENT_> :) | |
| [10:47] <_SiLENT_> and try Ubuntu Mumuntu, see that is hard and throw it to dustbin | |
| [10:47] <_SiLENT_> and say my friends not to try nix and lose their time | |
| [10:47] <_SiLENT_> :P | |
| [10:48] <mayeco> yeah | |
| [10:48] <mayeco> that is nice | |
| [10:48] <_SiLENT_> yes | |
| [10:48] <mayeco> but a ilegal copy of windows is bad | |
| [10:48] <mayeco> why? | |
| [10:48] <mayeco> becouse the make you use it.. | |
| [10:48] <_SiLENT_> why is it bad? | |
| [10:48] <mayeco> they make you need it | |
| [10:48] <_SiLENT_> it is as good as it is | |
| [10:48] <_SiLENT_> for ne | |
| [10:49] <_SiLENT_> *me | |
| [10:49] <mayeco> get it | |
| [10:49] <mayeco> if you use windows and only know windows | |
| [10:49] <mayeco> if you get a job they have to buy a windows for you | |
| [10:50] <_SiLENT_> yes | |
| [10:50] <_SiLENT_> their problem | |
| [10:50] <_SiLENT_> lol | |
| [10:50] <mayeco> and in schools is the same | |
| [10:50] <_SiLENT_> ok | |
| [10:50] <_SiLENT_> if nix was common | |
| [10:50] <mayeco> they "donate" that software to the kids | |
| [10:50] <_SiLENT_> it would be nice | |
| [10:50] <mayeco> and the kids only learn that os | |
| [10:50] <mayeco> yeah | |
| [10:51] <mayeco> would be nice to teach other os | |
| [10:51] <mayeco> and theach os that you can see the source code | |
| [10:51] <mayeco> and see how it works | |
| [10:51] <_SiLENT_> when I was at school all computers had unlicensed windos copies lol | |
| [10:51] <mayeco> in my school to | |
| [10:52] <mayeco> but for years I only learn that system | |
| [10:52] <mayeco> and is bad | |
| [10:52] <_SiLENT_> all in all u r right | |
| [10:52] <mayeco> I now have piece of my brain with that | |
| [10:52] <mayeco> wasted... | |
| [10:52] <_SiLENT_> we should think about our future | |
| [10:52] <mayeco> yeah | |
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| [10:53] <mayeco> like 200 years ago people fight you our freedom | |
| [10:53] <_SiLENT_> but it would be good if all developers concentrated on one version of nix system | |
| [10:53] <mayeco> yeah... | |
| [10:53] <mayeco> but... | |
| [10:53] <mayeco> that will create another windows | |
| [10:53] <_SiLENT_> so that there wouldn't be so many different ones | |
| [10:53] <_SiLENT_> no | |
| [10:53] <mayeco> yes... | |
| [10:53] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:53] <_SiLENT_> if the whole world works on the same OS | |
| [10:53] <mayeco> the good thing is that you have may many flavors | |
| [10:54] <mayeco> for every pc and every specification | |
| [10:54] <mayeco> you can install in a 386 | |
| [10:54] <_SiLENT_> ok | |
| [10:54] <mayeco> and in a atlhon 64bit.. | |
| [10:54] <_SiLENT_> now I can't program | |
| [10:54] <_SiLENT_> I am planning to learn | |
| [10:54] <mayeco> it's easy | |
| [10:54] <mayeco> is like moving from automatic car to a manual car | |
| [10:55] <_SiLENT_> when I have energy and time, I will pay some attention to this problem | |
| [10:55] <mayeco> first time... the car will shutdown but in 2 weeks you can make it | |
| [10:55] <mayeco> :D | |
| [10:55] <_SiLENT_> which is... | |
| [10:55] <_SiLENT_> 2 years? | |
| [10:56] <mayeco> 2 weeks | |
| [10:56] <_SiLENT_> but my plan was to earn good money by programming | |
| [10:56] <mayeco> in 2 years you will be a super linux developer | |
| [10:56] <_SiLENT_> and it is not compatible with ur ideas | |
| [10:56] <mayeco> yeah | |
| [10:57] <_SiLENT_> ok now I go | |
| [10:57] <_SiLENT_> gotta sleep | |
| [10:57] <_SiLENT_> thx for useful info | |
| [10:57] <mayeco> ok | |
| [10:58] <mayeco> bye | |
| [10:58] <_SiLENT_> bye | |
| [10:58] <mayeco> ..... to much talking... | |
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| [11:19] <mpt> darn | |
| [11:19] <mpt> For future reference, the answer to badders' question was https://code.launchpad.net/loggerhead | |
| [11:33] <gnomefreak> for PPA does every binary in control have to have a Section bleh in it? | |
| [11:38] <kiko> I believe so -- just like regular packages, no? | |
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| [11:46] <LaserJock> kiko: ping | |
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| [12:25] <mayeco> can I make create a new project and register a new branch in launchpad just to learn and test the bzr? | |
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| [12:37] <LaserJock> mayeco: you should do that on demo.launchpad.net | |
| [12:37] <mayeco> ok! | |
| [12:37] <mayeco> thank you! | |