| [00:00] <LjL> i know what they were after, yes | |
| [00:00] <LjL> [00:42:54] <bruce89> I don't like to be insulted, I just want my opinions respected | |
| [00:00] <bruce89> doesn't matter | |
| [00:00] <LjL> [00:43:40] <bruce89> I'm sad that Ubuntu has turned into Arch | |
| [00:00] <LjL> [00:44:01] <snuxoll> bruce89: must you continue whining? | |
| [00:00] <bruce89> I don't think I'll bother with -offtopic anyway | |
| [00:00] <LjL> (which really was a hint to !stop) | |
| [00:00] <bruce89> !stop | |
| [00:00] <ubottu> NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken. | |
| [00:02] <bruce89> you must understand it is hardly nice to be insulted and accused like that | |
| [00:03] <LjL> we're running in circles here. | |
| [00:03] <LjL> if in a bunch of days you feel like you'd like to join #ubuntu-offtopic again, please give us a ping here. | |
| [00:03] <bruce89> shouldn't have thought so | |
| [00:07] <LjL> bruce89: if right now you don't have any further questions for this channel, please part and come back later when you do | |
| [00:07] <bruce89> lovely | |
| [00:09] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops bruce89 Way too argumentative for my liking. I had noticed that during the past days in #ubuntu-offtopic, too. He'll be unbanned when he shows he'll play by the rules no matter how "upset" he may be about anything. | |
| [00:09] <ubottu> The operation succeeded. | |
| [00:16] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !LjL is has factoid | |
| [00:28] <Myrtti> the cake is not a lie! | |
| [00:28] <Myrtti> I haz caek. | |
| [00:33] <jussi01> There is no spoon... | |
| [00:33] <jussi01> err... cake | |
| [00:49] <Flannel> LjL: cinnamon roll | |
| [00:50] <LjL> Flannel: wait, what? | |
| [00:50] <Flannel> LjL: in #u, you've got a cinnamon roll | |
| [00:50] <LjL> oh right | |
| [01:25] <LjL> yay, watchbot got its first real hit | |
| [01:42] <Flannel> Apparently ops know all of the answers | |
| [01:43] <LjL> Flannel: how can you get to know all the answers? | |
| [01:43] <elky> LjL, watchbot? | |
| [01:43] <Flannel> LjL: I don't know when Ubuntu is going to have ipod support. | |
| [01:43] <LjL> elky: yeah, extension to floodbots that ended up being its own bot. you can join ##ljl and post any dodgy link to try it. | |
| [01:43] <Flannel> er, iphone support, even. | |
| [01:46] <elky> are you using the wikileaks watch lists? :P | |
| [01:46] <bazhang> ikonia, you were referring to zenitur I am guessing | |
| [01:46] <LjL> elky: nope, opendns.com... besides, how could you even *know* about the wikileaks list? i thought that was a $11000 fine for you to know about it :P | |
| [01:50] <Flannel> eventy hundred dollars? | |
| [01:51] <LjL> Flannel: that's what i read (not really for knowing about it, but for linking to it - or any other site blacklisted by the oz firewall) | |
| [02:35] <bazhang> * [breakmyfall] ([email protected]): BreakMyFaLL okay? | |
| [02:36] <LjL> bazhang: there's quite a few users from shellium lately | |
| [02:36] <bazhang> LjL, ahem the bit preceding shellium I meant (since we had kavity get a vhost for much less) | |
| [02:37] <LjL> bazhang: i dunno, i'm not the one to be fascist about hostnames (although i'll certainly keep a special eyes on vhosts like those) | |
| [02:38] <bazhang> :0 | |
| [02:39] <LjL> bazhang: it's just a hostname, in theory it's not even you deciding it. although of course it is in case of shell vhosts. | |
| [02:39] <bazhang> LjL, good point | |
| [02:39] <bazhang> I was agnostic on kavity tbh | |
| [02:39] <bazhang> he was arguing about cursing in -ot and then we noticed it | |
| [02:43] <LjL> bazhang: i won't really hide the fact that i'm not quite in agreement with some ops over extremely strict usermask policing. (such as banning "jesus", meh.) | |
| [02:43] <bazhang> * [Netham46] (n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/netham45): purple trolling? | |
| [02:43] <LjL> netham reminds me of something | |
| [02:43] <bazhang> <Netham46> justin__: I personally avoid Linux like a plague for my web servers, they're all IIS. I moved from Linux a couple years ago, and I've had no issues since. :) | |
| [02:46] <LjL> bazhang: uhm, he's been a long-time user, he doesn't "seem" like a troll from skimming the logs | |
| [02:46] <LjL> or - perhaps he does seem like one. subtly though. | |
| [02:48] <bazhang> he said he is rebooting, yet only left #ubuntu (ie still on freenode) | |
| [02:49] <LjL> bazhang: he's got Netham45 in ##windows, too, although i wasn't on ##windows | |
| [02:51] <bazhang> LjL, just the 'oh usb-creator is broken, no wonder I dont use linux, windows server is great, etc' | |
| [02:52] <bazhang> seems like a load of fud to me | |
| [02:52] <LjL> so cross-trolling, uhm | |
| [02:52] <bazhang> still on freenode (ie not rebooted) | |
| [02:52] <bazhang> shades of slayer | |
| [02:54] <LjL> bazhang: i left a @mark about him. what about shades of slayer, is that some reference to shadeslayer...? | |
| [02:54] <bazhang> LjL, yeah, subtle (or notso at times) trolling | |
| [02:54] <bazhang> suddenly his gnome and cdrom is fixed miraculously at the last moment | |
| [02:55] <bazhang> after literally days of 'it must be hal' it not mounting in kde | |
| [03:18] <LjL> bazhang et al: i'm going to bed, if watchbot starts behaving very badly for any reason, just ban | |
| [03:18] <Flannel> LjL: sounds good. | |
| [03:18] <bazhang> LjL, okay (in #ubuntu) | |
| [03:21] <ubottu> musikgoat|main called the ops in #ubuntu (Germanaz0) | |
| [05:22] <elky> mr spammer is back as daemonfc again | |
| [05:23] <tritium> elky: where? | |
| [05:24] <elky> -ot | |
| [05:24] <tritium> oh | |
| [05:27] <elky> yeah, you're the smart one who steers clear of there | |
| [05:27] <elky> tonyyarusso, ^^ | |
| [05:28] <tonyyarusso> heh | |
| [05:31] <tonyyarusso> Wth is the purpose of Watchbot? | |
| [05:47] <ubottu> n2diy called the ops in #ubuntu () | |
| [05:48] <tritium> taken care of | |
| [08:05] <ubottu> In ubottu, rww said: !no, lfs is <reply> LFS is Linux From Scratch, a Linux distribution (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/), not to be confused with !LTS which stands for "Long Term Support". | |
| [08:05] <Flannel> !lfs | |
| [08:05] <ubottu> LFS is linux from scratch www.linuxfromscratch.org; not to be confused with LTS which is the long term support version of ubuntu (6.06 and 8.04) | |
| [08:44] <ikonia> don't see the point of that factoid | |
| [08:45] * jussi01 waves sleepily to ikonia | |
| [08:45] * jussi01 is somewhat hungover... | |
| [08:45] <ikonia> join the club | |
| [08:46] <ikonia> I'm about to go and get my car from the gargage and pickup a new amp | |
| [08:46] <ikonia> just waiting for my lift to go and pick it up | |
| [08:47] <jussi01> I should clean today... lets see how that goes. | |
| [08:48] <ikonia> @bansearch BUGabundo | |
| [08:48] <ubottu> No matches found for [email protected] in any channel | |
| [08:48] <ikonia> ??? | |
| [08:49] <ikonia> ahhh right so he's ban dodging | |
| [08:49] <jussi01> where? | |
| [08:49] <ikonia> +1 | |
| [08:49] <ikonia> I banned him last night - had a discussion with him and told him the ban would be for the weekend due to his attitude in pm | |
| [08:49] <ikonia> so straight after I go go bed - he's back in on a new IP | |
| [08:49] <ikonia> @mark | |
| [08:49] <ubottu> (mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg | |
| [08:51] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu+1 bugabundo ban dodging as soon as my back was turned in +1 | |
| [08:51] <ubottu> The operation succeeded. | |
| [08:54] * jussi01 waves to Hobbsee!!! | |
| [08:54] <ikonia> it's Hobbsee | |
| [09:45] <bazhang> Hobbsee, !! | |
| [09:48] <Nafallo> Hoooooobsee | |
| [10:18] <Myrtti> *burp* | |
| [10:18] <Myrtti> caek | |
| [10:20] * topyli joins ikonia's club | |
| [10:21] <ikonia> my club ? | |
| [10:23] <topyli> the hangover club you founded with jussi01 | |
| [10:23] <ikonia> ahh | |
| [10:23] <bazhang> ikonia, you were referring to zenitur in -irc? | |
| [10:23] <ikonia> bazhang: yes | |
| [10:23] <bazhang> ikonia, just getting the lowdown now | |
| [10:23] <jussi01> wow, I just cleaned the fridge...bleh | |
| [10:23] <ikonia> nice | |
| [10:23] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596780/ | |
| [10:24] <Myrtti> http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596788/ | |
| [10:24] <jussi01> the cake is still a lie... | |
| [10:24] <jussi01> :P | |
| [10:31] <ubottu> bazhang called the ops in #kubuntu (tarfart) | |
| [10:33] <bazhang> whoa | |
| [10:33] <Tm_T> nice, chanserv got slow on me | |
| [10:34] <jussi01> panos4ever: do you understand why you were forwarded here? | |
| [10:34] <bazhang> panos4ever, never type that | |
| [10:34] <panos4ever> ok | |
| [10:34] <bazhang> panos4ever, not even in anger or as a joke | |
| [10:34] <panos4ever> yeah yeah | |
| [10:34] <panos4ever> i know | |
| [10:34] <bazhang> panos4ever, new users might try to run it | |
| [10:34] <panos4ever> :( | |
| [10:34] <Tm_T> panos4ever: you know and you still did that | |
| [10:35] <panos4ever> i didnt know that if i tell this like that | |
| [10:35] <panos4ever> i would be banned | |
| [10:35] <Tm_T> panos4ever: that is not the point | |
| [10:35] <panos4ever> kkk | |
| [10:35] <panos4ever> sorry | |
| [10:35] <panos4ever> plz can u disban me? | |
| [10:35] <Tm_T> panos4ever: the point is you possibly harm other users, that's the thing you should be worry | |
| [10:35] <bazhang> it was wrong | |
| [10:36] <bazhang> Never type that. | |
| [10:36] <panos4ever> disban plz? | |
| [10:36] <jussi01> Tm_T: I got to run, feel free to sort this as you see fit | |
| [10:36] <Tm_T> "plz" and "u" (: | |
| [10:36] <Tm_T> jussi01: will do son | |
| [10:36] <panos4ever> for me??? | |
| [10:37] <bazhang> I think he should have time to reflect on this | |
| [10:37] <bazhang> !coc | panos4ever | |
| [10:37] <ubottu> panos4ever: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | |
| [10:37] <Tm_T> panos4ever: ok, heres the thing, please don't say anything that can be dangerous in that way in support channels, ever | |
| [10:37] <bazhang> !guidelines | panos4ever | |
| [10:37] <ubottu> panos4ever: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | |
| [10:37] <bazhang> read those panos4ever | |
| [10:38] <panos4ever> ok i will be back | |
| [10:38] <Tm_T> panos4ever: read those links and meet us when you have read them fully with thought | |
| [10:45] <Hobbsee> heya! | |
| [10:46] <bazhang> panos4ever, please dont idle here | |
| [10:46] <panos4ever> i am here | |
| [10:46] <bazhang> !idle | panos4ever | |
| [10:46] <ubottu> panos4ever: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. | |
| [10:47] <bazhang> panos4ever, please exit the channel | |
| [10:50] <Myrtti> could someone take the forward off? | |
| [10:51] <bazhang> I would if I could | |
| [10:53] <jussi01> done | |
| [10:54] <bazhang> he just PM'ed me asking for all the links. No attitude just wanted the links. | |
| [10:55] <bazhang> should he come back in a couple of days? or longer | |
| [10:55] <Myrtti> !coc > panos4ever | |
| [10:55] <Myrtti> bah | |
| [10:55] <bazhang> he has them | |
| [10:55] <jussi01> bazhang: 24H. imho | |
| [10:55] <Myrtti> I forget doing it like that makes ubotwo send them too | |
| [10:55] <bazhang> jussi01, okay | |
| [10:56] <jussi01> bazhang: its just he knew it was wrong, and got frustrated. needs to cool down. | |
| [10:57] <bazhang> jussi01, what he did was wrong; tarfart was really foul though (not a defense, but understandable that he would be upset) | |
| [10:57] <bazhang> and he was asked to stop with the language more than once | |
| [10:57] <bazhang> ie tarfart | |
| [10:59] <bazhang> ah tarfart is now in #ubuntu | |
| [11:01] <bazhang> BUGabundo, how may we help you | |
| [11:02] <jussi01> ikonia: ;) | |
| [11:02] <bazhang> he is ban dodging in #kubuntu | |
| [11:02] <BUGabundo> good morning | |
| [11:03] <bazhang> jussi01, tarfart | |
| [11:03] <BUGabundo> hi bazhang | |
| [11:03] <BUGabundo> I was brought here automaticly | |
| [11:03] <BUGabundo> I guess it was to do with ikonia ban on me | |
| [11:03] <jussi01> bazhang: I only kicked him. | |
| [11:03] <bazhang> jussi01, I see | |
| [11:03] <BUGabundo> he says I delebirate changed my IP to access #ubuntu+1 | |
| [11:03] <jussi01> watching though. | |
| [11:03] <BUGabundo> when I had no control of the router, where I was last night | |
| [11:03] <bazhang> he was really foul, and seemingly trolling | |
| [11:04] <BUGabundo> please visit the channel and ask further opionins | |
| [11:04] <BUGabundo> many others can see this a single side vision | |
| [11:04] <bazhang> BUGabundo, this was about advertising a channel iirc | |
| [11:04] <BUGabundo> I'll shut up now, and be availble to your questions | |
| [11:05] <bazhang> BUGabundo, so why not take a short while off (as he suggested the weekend) | |
| [11:05] <BUGabundo> bazhang: humm I did... I did not enter the # on purposed | |
| [11:05] <bazhang> BUGabundo, then we can put it behind us | |
| [11:05] <BUGabundo> pidgin as it set as autologin | |
| [11:05] <BUGabundo> for me its all good | |
| [11:06] <BUGabundo> I gave ikonia all the will he could | |
| [11:06] <bazhang> BUGabundo, see you after the weekend then | |
| [11:06] <BUGabundo> did not pursue anything on this mather anymore | |
| [11:07] <bazhang> <tarfart> hix the crack tool | |
| [11:07] <bazhang> :/ | |
| [11:08] <bazhang> BUGabundo, please part the channel and see you on Monday | |
| [12:08] <alteregoa> heh | |
| [12:08] <alteregoa> houston i got a problem | |
| [12:08] <bazhang> alteregoa, how may we help you | |
| [12:09] <alteregoa> i added ushare | |
| [12:09] <alteregoa> but this stuff scans the whole root | |
| [12:09] <alteregoa> aprox 10tb, and that takes forever | |
| [12:09] <bazhang> alteregoa, this is not a support channel you realize | |
| [12:11] <alteregoa> ah | |
| [12:11] <bazhang> #ubuntu for support | |
| [12:11] <alteregoa> if i join ubuntu it forwarss me to this channel | |
| [12:11] <alteregoa> #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops Forwarding to another channel | |
| [12:12] <alteregoa> i try to log on another fn server | |
| [12:13] <alteregoa> still the same | |
| [12:14] <bazhang> you are banned in #ubuntu and forwarded here | |
| [12:14] <bazhang> do you recall why you were banned? | |
| [12:14] <alteregoa> yes | |
| [12:15] <alteregoa> it was like 4 months ago | |
| [12:15] <bazhang> 10 days ago by the ban records | |
| [12:16] <alteregoa> ok so i log in with my shell | |
| [12:16] <bazhang> alteregoa, ban evade? | |
| [12:16] <alteregoa> i pasted a website containing a dude talking crap | |
| [12:17] <alteregoa> that was harassing a few ppls | |
| [12:17] <bazhang> alteregoa, better to resolve this with the operator who banned you then ban evade | |
| [12:18] <bazhang> ban evasion is against freenode policy and could lead to you being banned from the server altogether | |
| [12:18] <alteregoa> i don't remember the op, cause he klined me | |
| [12:18] <bazhang> alteregoa, klined? are you certain? | |
| [12:18] <alteregoa> yes | |
| [12:19] <bazhang> alteregoa, then you should ask in #freenode and disconnect | |
| [12:19] <alteregoa> ok i ask there | |
| [12:32] <jussi01> wow.... seems a lovely guy | |
| [12:33] <jussi01> ... | |
| [12:33] <jussi01> grumble... why doesnt this game in crossover detect I have the cd in :/ | |
| [12:35] <bazhang> which game jussi01 ? | |
| [12:36] <jussi01> heroes of might and magic 3... | |
| [12:36] <jussi01> :D | |
| [12:36] <bazhang> hehe | |
| [12:36] <jussi01> keep s telling me to put the cd in and restart the game... kinda annoying... | |
| [12:38] <bazhang> its rated as gold/platinum in the wine appdb | |
| [12:38] <bazhang> never had much luck with the free crossover, much better with wine tbh | |
| [12:38] <jussi01> eah, must be doing something worng. not sure what thogh... | |
| [12:39] <jussi01> wonder were it looks for the cd... | |
| [12:40] <jussi01> i have a real version of crossover, and if it works with wine, it should work with crossover | |
| [12:40] <bazhang> true; just had better luck with wine | |
| [12:40] <bazhang> the free version is the real version afaik | |
| [12:41] <bazhang> same problem with fallout 2 (cant find cd) | |
| [12:41] <jussi01> bazhang: "free" version? | |
| [12:41] <bazhang> jussi01, yep; they gave it away on one day only. | |
| [12:42] <bazhang> full unlocked version, free | |
| [12:42] <jussi01> ahh, yeah, thats the real version. but I wouldnt refer to it as the "free" version.... | |
| [12:42] <jussi01> you confuse people | |
| [12:45] <bazhang> s/people/person/ | |
| [12:45] <bazhang> :) | |
| [12:46] <jussi01> no, I meant people... ;) | |
| [12:47] <bazhang> legal, free, non-pirated version :) | |
| [12:47] <jussi01> it isnt a free version, its still being sold, and it was just given away for one day. | |
| [12:48] <topyli> i downloaded crossover and office and the gaming thing that day too, but have yet to find use for them :) | |
| [12:48] <popey> heh | |
| [12:49] <bazhang> tarfart is mixing versions and installing via dpkg and claims he is in dependency hell | |
| [12:49] <topyli> free software is enough so far :) | |
| [12:49] <bazhang> more expletives in #kubuntu | |
| [12:52] <topyli> copying music to phone from a samba share over wifi over usb 1.0 is not very fast :( | |
| [12:52] <topyli> usb 1.1, whatever | |
| [12:53] <jussi01> topyli: heheh...no | |
| [12:53] <topyli> hrm wifi claims to be 18Mb/s though | |
| [12:53] <topyli> the usb is probably the bottleneck | |
| [12:53] <topyli> or the phone | |
| [12:55] <topyli> well the samba server is a wippies router too with a usb drive. that's probably not the fastest possible server either | |
| [12:57] <topyli> i have built the slowest possible system! | |
| [12:57] <bazhang> ugh | |
| [13:00] <topyli> well i guess i could replace one of those links with infrared | |
| [13:39] <bazhang> BUGabundo, hi | |
| [13:39] <bazhang> BUGabundo, thought we agreed you would come back on Monday | |
| [13:39] <BUGabundo> pidgin auto login | |
| [13:40] <BUGabundo> once I started the laptop | |
| [13:40] <BUGabundo> to give my linux class | |
| [13:40] <BUGabundo> exiting now | |
| [13:40] <gnomefreak> bazhang: what did he do? i work closely with him so just wondering | |
| [13:40] <ikonia> BUGabundo's excuse of auto join does not cut it with me | |
| [13:41] <ikonia> he stayed in the channel for over 3 hours knowing he was banned | |
| [13:41] <bazhang> gnomefreak, advertised in a channel after being warned not to, then ban evaded to compound it | |
| [13:41] <ikonia> gnomefreak: are you referering to BUGabundo | |
| [13:41] <gnomefreak> ikonia: yes | |
| [13:41] <bazhang> ikonia, actually in this case I believe him | |
| [13:41] <gnomefreak> bazhang: thanks | |
| [13:41] <ikonia> bazhang why did he stay in the channel for 3 hours talking knowing he was banned | |
| [13:41] <bazhang> ikonia, ie the auto join | |
| [13:42] <gnomefreak> what channel? | |
| [13:42] <bazhang> ikonia, am referring to right now | |
| [13:42] <bazhang> #1 | |
| [13:42] <ikonia> gnomefreak: he keeps making little minor foul ups, which are fine, but when he is prodded about them he gets attitude and trys to argue | |
| [13:42] <bazhang> err + | |
| [13:42] <ikonia> gnomefreak: he also keeps advertising random links/talks/groups in channels | |
| [13:42] <ikonia> gnomefreak: and when he's asked to stop he plays dumb about it | |
| [13:43] <gnomefreak> :( thats not good | |
| [13:43] <ikonia> then tries to be clever | |
| [13:43] <ikonia> asking if I'm a bot etc etc | |
| [13:43] <ikonia> when he knows quite well I'm not | |
| [13:44] <ikonia> and as you can see - makes excuses for things | |
| [13:44] <ikonia> "my client is auto joinining" - then why did you stay in the channel for hours talking knowing you where banned | |
| [13:44] <gnomefreak> how did he get in under a ban? | |
| [13:45] <bazhang> bruce89's comments of a day ago make more sense in light of checking the ban tracker | |
| [13:45] <ikonia> I did it on IP as he sometimes uses _bugaundo or bugabundu_laptop | |
| [13:45] <ikonia> he changed his IP | |
| [13:45] <ikonia> which hasn't changed for 3 weeks | |
| [13:45] <ikonia> but on the night of the ban - changed magically 3 hours later | |
| [13:45] <ikonia> and his client auto joined on that same night 3 hours after I'd left | |
| [13:46] <ikonia> and he stayed talking | |
| [13:46] <ikonia> all a magical co-incidence | |
| [13:46] <ikonia> he's not dumb - he knows what he's doing | |
| [13:46] <ikonia> infact he's far from dumb | |
| [13:46] <bazhang> talk to him on Monday then | |
| [13:46] <gnomefreak> that would do it, well im still on the fence with that but he is a nice guy so i had to ask | |
| [13:47] <ikonia> gnomefreak: he's a great guy, and puts in a good ammount of effort in +1 | |
| [13:47] <ikonia> no argument there | |
| [13:48] <gnomefreak> i will talk to him most likely monday since im only here to fix one of my branches and do email, im sure asac will have other work for me | |
| [13:49] * Myrtti grunts at BUGabundo | |
| [13:50] <ikonia> Myrtti: a grunt | |
| [13:51] <ikonia> gnomefreak: it's nothing major, he just needs to stop arguing every point with pathetic detail | |
| [13:51] <ikonia> gnomefreak: the ban dodging has not impressed me though, as I said he's not dumb so he knows/knew what he was doing | |
| [13:52] <gnomefreak> im sure he did. but really wish he didnt | |
| [13:52] <Myrtti> ikonia, gnomefreak: http://www.qaiku.com/home/myrtti/show/1de12eedce7b37412ee11deb88aab3274b6c4a1c4a1/ | |
| [13:52] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: thanks | |
| [13:55] <gnomefreak> i see pink ;) witha few turtles | |
| [13:57] <Myrtti> gnomefreak: roll downwards to his comments | |
| [13:57] <Myrtti> he's full of that | |
| [13:57] <Myrtti> there's a strong dislike of him around | |
| [13:58] <Myrtti> hob bs ee and I have some details, but in general... well. I think his attitude in life and people in general needs a bit of adjustment | |
| [13:58] <Myrtti> that's something that we can't cure, but still | |
| [13:59] <gnomefreak> ok now that is not good | |
| [14:00] <Myrtti> it's not the first time that | |
| [14:00] <ikonia> Myrtti: is qaiku lke twitter | |
| [14:01] <Myrtti> ikonia: it's like Jaiku pre-GoogleAppengine | |
| [14:01] <Myrtti> ikonia: identi.ca will kick ass with the next release of laconica | |
| [14:02] <Myrtti> it'll have the same threaded conversations like Jaiku, brightkite, facebook and qaiku | |
| [14:03] <gnomefreak> well thst explains the bot question but not likley other things | |
| [14:04] <ikonia> gnomefreak: what explains the bot question ? | |
| [14:04] <Myrtti> is the bot a she, I presume | |
| [14:04] <gnomefreak> ikonia: your away message | |
| [14:05] <popey> Myrtti: all bots are female | |
| [14:05] <ikonia> gnomefreak: I set that after his question | |
| [14:05] <Myrtti> he joined in to -women last night because maco has been mentioning it on her blogpost | |
| [14:05] <ikonia> at least I think I did | |
| [14:05] <Myrtti> he's creeping out maco as well | |
| [14:06] <bazhang> heh | |
| [14:06] <ikonia> I think I'll go and clean my car now its back from the garage and play with my new amp :) | |
| [14:06] <popey> clean cars are overrated | |
| [14:06] <popey> :) | |
| [14:06] <gnomefreak> ikonia: i dont have full logs of channel and god knows i dont want to see them after what i read on the link above. at least not today, it makes me want to do something bad ;) | |
| [14:08] <ikonia> gnomefreak: well don't - it will get sorted | |
| [14:08] <ikonia> popey: this thing needs a clean bad | |
| [14:08] <bazhang> he is not nearly bad as many many others | |
| [14:08] <bazhang> that are being given free pass after free pass ad infinitum | |
| [14:08] <popey> bazhang: i cringe when i see his email on ubuntu lists :( | |
| [14:09] <gnomefreak> hell i wold him sortly after i joined i wasnt there to help i was just wondering | |
| [14:09] <popey> wondering how confrontational he's going to be before I open the mail, I'm usually not surprised | |
| [14:09] <bazhang> popey, meet asustek and groovyorange then get back to me | |
| [14:09] <bazhang> not to mention shadeslayer | |
| [14:10] <popey> just because someone is more of an asshat than someone else, that doesn't diminish the asshatery of the first proponent | |
| [14:10] <bazhang> this is way beyond that | |
| [14:10] <popey> ok | |
| [14:11] <bazhang> bugabundo is a jerk and was wrong, no doubt | |
| [14:11] <bazhang> those others are serious menaces | |
| [14:11] <gnomefreak> agreed | |
| [14:11] <gnomefreak> i do need to get me one of those auto away for just PMs | |
| [14:12] <bazhang> I think two days is too short tbh | |
| [14:12] <bazhang> ie i k o n i a ' s ban | |
| [14:12] <bazhang> but asustek/etc and groovyorange need permabans | |
| [14:13] <gnomefreak> hes ok with waiting the 2 days | |
| [14:13] * gnomefreak never heard of them | |
| [14:13] <bazhang> count yourself fortunate then | |
| [14:13] * gnomefreak wonders why asac is in +1 he tries to avoid chanlles outside dev channels | |
| [14:14] <gnomefreak> spell sucks today | |
| [14:14] <gnomefreak> ing | |
| [14:15] <LjL> how's watchbot doing? | |
| [14:16] <bazhang> grate! | |
| [14:16] <popey> gnomefreak: 13:21:42 < asac_the_2nd> anyone has font issues ;)? | |
| [14:16] <popey> 13:21:52 < asac_the_2nd> e.g. after recent upgrade | |
| [14:16] <popey> 13:21:57 < asac_the_2nd> if so, let me know! | |
| [14:16] <popey> ^^ thats why | |
| [14:17] <bazhang> ubuntu member operative gone bad | |
| [14:17] <bazhang> ban evasion! | |
| [14:17] <LjL> any false positives at all with watchbot? if not, i think i can make it call real ops | |
| [14:18] <bazhang> LjL, none so far ^^ | |
| [14:19] <LjL> uhm, i'm not so sure | |
| [14:19] <LjL> [06:30] <WatchBot1> !fakeops | J-_ posted link to Photo sharing,Nudity site in #ubuntu-offtopic | |
| [14:19] <bazhang> is aspoor giving exceptionally poor advice? | |
| [14:19] <LjL> [06:35] <WatchBot1> !fakeops | tonyyarusso posted link to Photo sharing,Nudity site in #ubuntu-offtopic | |
| [14:19] <LjL> these don't look good | |
| [14:19] <LjL> unless tony and j have gone bad too ;) | |
| [14:19] <bazhang> 'too' | |
| [14:19] <bazhang> :/ | |
| [14:19] <LjL> like asac! | |
| [14:19] <bazhang> riight | |
| [14:23] <gnomefreak> popey: thanks, i know that issue all too well :) | |
| [14:23] <popey> :) | |
| [14:24] <popey> ditto, jaunty nearly poked my eyes out with the massive fonts today | |
| [14:27] <gnomefreak> popey: that was 3rd upload for it as i recall | |
| [14:29] <gnomefreak> that was PPA i think the 2 fixes were pushed to | |
| [14:29] <LjL> ok, so, what i've done to watchbot now | |
| [14:29] <LjL> 1) whitelist deviantart and imageshack | |
| [14:29] <LjL> 2) not warn if a site is in the "photo sharing" category, even though it's in other "bad" categories | |
| [14:31] <LjL> i don't have any. | |
| [14:31] <LjL> not at all. | |
| [14:33] <space_cadet> !ops | |
| [14:33] <ubottu> Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! | |
| [14:33] <ubottu> space_cadet called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () | |
| [14:33] <LjL> space_cadet: err, YES? | |
| [14:33] <space_cadet> why | |
| [14:33] <LjL> no, first question is mine | |
| [14:33] <space_cadet> because someone was telling me to go somewhere else, when my problem is with ubuntu | |
| [14:33] <LjL> why the HELL did you just call !ops? | |
| [14:33] <space_cadet> not ubuntu+1 | |
| [14:34] <space_cadet> because u banned me for NO reason | |
| [14:34] <LjL> then you know what happens if a man makes mistakes? | |
| [14:34] <LjL> they'll probably do them again. | |
| [14:34] <LjL> loser. | |
| [14:34] <LjL> make jrib run out of the channel, yeah, good way to remain in there for long. | |
| [14:34] <Gary> handbags at dawn | |
| [14:40] <space_cadet> Help | |
| [14:40] <mneptok> Please state the nature of the medical emergency. | |
| [14:41] <space_cadet> Ljl has been abusing power | |
| [14:41] <LjL> yes, you're being oppressed | |
| [14:41] <LjL> space_cadet: what's the output of your "lsb_version -a"? | |
| [14:42] <mneptok> I am programmed for basic channel health maintenance and monitoring tasks. | |
| [14:42] <LjL> lsb_release -a, even | |
| [14:42] <space_cadet> not found | |
| [14:42] <LjL> space_cadet: try lsb_release -a, i mixed commands up | |
| [14:43] <space_cadet> Distributor ID: Ubuntu | |
| [14:43] <space_cadet> Description: Ubuntu 8.10 | |
| [14:43] <space_cadet> Release: 8.10 | |
| [14:43] <space_cadet> Codename: intrepid | |
| [14:43] <bazhang> calling ops in the -ops channel is not a good way to gain credibility of being oppressed | |
| [14:43] <space_cadet> i was explaining to scunizi that i HAD 9.04 on my machine before and there were problems between the nvidia drivers and the x | |
| [14:44] <space_cadet> and was asking if the 180 drivers had the same problem | |
| [14:44] <LjL> space_cadet: so jrib misunderstood you as using alpha when you were not? | |
| [14:44] <space_cadet> yes | |
| [14:44] <LjL> space_cadet: and how did you react? | |
| [14:44] <space_cadet> and I was a little rude to him because he kept telling me to go to #ubuntu+1 | |
| [14:44] <space_cadet> specifically, I told him to "butt out" | |
| [14:45] <bazhang> quite rude | |
| [14:45] <bazhang> in fact | |
| [14:45] <LjL> you mean this | |
| [14:45] <space_cadet> because he hadn't read the context of the conversation | |
| [14:45] <LjL> [15:28:49] <jrib> !jaunty | space_cadet | |
| [14:45] <LjL> [15:28:49] <ubottu> space_cadet: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support. | |
| [14:45] <LjL> [15:29:07] <space_cadet> askthebot > jrib | |
| [14:45] <LjL> and this | |
| [14:45] <LjL> [15:29:35] <jrib> space_cadet: jaunty help in #ubuntu+1, not here | |
| [14:45] <LjL> [15:29:45] <space_cadet> jrib butt out | |
| [14:45] <LjL> ? | |
| [14:45] <space_cadet> yes that. | |
| [14:46] <LjL> and were those the only instances where jrib told you to go to #ubuntu+1? | |
| [14:46] <space_cadet> it's interesting how they flame you for just mentioning 9x | |
| [14:46] <space_cadet> but never get into trouble | |
| [14:46] <bazhang> its the wrong channel | |
| [14:46] <bazhang> they are not 'flaming you' | |
| [14:47] <space_cadet> yes they are, because my issue at hand was not with 9.04 it is with 8.10 | |
| [14:47] <space_cadet> so it is irrelevant | |
| [14:47] <LjL> space_cadet, were those the only instances where jrib told you to go to #ubuntu+1? | |
| [14:47] <space_cadet> yes | |
| [14:48] <LjL> so in essence | |
| [14:48] <LjL> he misunderstood you | |
| [14:48] <LjL> and instead of explaining that to him | |
| [14:48] <LjL> you first gave him an unwarranted !askthebot | |
| [14:48] <LjL> and then told him to "butt out" in second instance | |
| [14:48] <LjL> well, i need to be off right now, but i'm sure the other ops here can deal with the issue | |
| [14:50] <space_cadet> might I present this | |
| [14:50] <space_cadet> <space_cadet> Because I know that when I was back in the dev chain and 9.04 installed automagically, i didn't have nvidia drivers because they conflicted with X... Has that problem been resolved? | |
| [14:50] <space_cadet> <jrib> !jaunty | space_cadet | |
| [14:51] <space_cadet> if anyone was following the conversation like jrib appeared to be, they would have understood the context that sentence was written in. | |
| [14:51] <space_cadet> ^^ this was directly after scunizi told me to add the medibuntu repo's and install the 180 drivers for nvidia | |
| [14:52] <bazhang> space_cadet, I saw the whole thing live. no need for 'context' | |
| [14:52] <bazhang> space_cadet, you were unnecessarily rude. | |
| [14:52] <space_cadet> in my defence so was jrib | |
| [14:52] <bazhang> space_cadet, not so. | |
| [14:53] <bazhang> space_cadet, the number of people talking about jaunty in the wrong channel these days is astounding. | |
| [14:53] <gnomefreak> with as many people on IRC there is bound to be misunderstandings since not everyone speaks english as a first language. but im not in this | |
| [14:53] <bazhang> all of us immediately suggest that channel. | |
| [14:53] <space_cadet> exactly, | |
| [14:54] <space_cadet> that's what's rude | |
| [14:54] <bazhang> not out of rudeness. | |
| [14:54] <bazhang> No. | |
| [14:54] <space_cadet> it appears to be rude from my end, | |
| [14:54] <space_cadet> that is why i responded the way I did | |
| [14:54] <bazhang> you are making this a big issue. | |
| [14:54] <bazhang> when it need not be. | |
| [14:55] <bazhang> you mention jaunty, you will get that link | |
| [14:55] <bazhang> that is the same for every_one. | |
| [14:55] <space_cadet> if I am taking too much of your time, just tell me and I will leave, although i would like to resolve this, and will apologize to jrib | |
| [14:55] <space_cadet> I understand I was rude | |
| [14:55] <bazhang> just to clarify, he was not rude. | |
| [14:55] <bazhang> we all do that to every one who mentions jaunty in the wrong channel. | |
| [14:56] <bazhang> practically half of what I say in #kubuntu and #ubuntu are that. | |
| [14:56] <bazhang> it is almost exactly one month from final release. | |
| [14:56] <space_cadet> i agree, however, it may appear rude to someone that is not talking about jaunty per se, but just mentioning it because it relates. | |
| [14:56] <space_cadet> but no, jrib was not being rude. | |
| [14:56] <bazhang> heh | |
| [14:56] <space_cadet> i was | |
| [14:57] <bazhang> then you need to grow much thicker skin, because busy channels such as ubuntu, will all the crosstalk can lead to mis-understandings. | |
| [14:57] <space_cadet> yes. | |
| [14:57] <bazhang> okay great | |
| [15:01] <bazhang> space_cadet, did you re join ubuntu? | |
| [15:04] <space_cadet> yep. thx | |
| [15:04] <space_cadet> and i apologized to jrib | |
| [15:04] * mneptok deactivates | |
| [15:04] <bazhang> okay then someone must have removed your ban. | |
| [15:04] <bazhang> just checking :) | |
| [15:05] <mneptok> umm ... | |
| [15:05] <mneptok> 10:35 -!- space_cadet [[email protected]] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"] | |
| [15:05] <bazhang> no? | |
| [15:05] <mneptok> 10:41 -!- space_cadet [[email protected]] has joined #ubuntu-ops | |
| [15:06] <mneptok> why the 2 different hostmasks? | |
| [15:06] <space_cadet> umm... | |
| [15:06] <bazhang> ban evasion? | |
| [15:07] <bazhang> while in -ops | |
| [15:07] <space_cadet> guilty. | |
| [15:08] <mneptok> i detect elevated stress levels. | |
| [15:08] <space_cadet> not any more actually. | |
| [15:08] <space_cadet> my quarrels have been resolved. | |
| [15:08] <mneptok> i was speaking for myself. ban evasion makes me really, really unhappy. | |
| [15:09] <space_cadet> although if further action is needed, i will not evade again. | |
| [15:09] <mneptok> you will not evade again regardless of what is needed. | |
| [15:09] <space_cadet> that's what I meant to say. | |
| [15:09] <mneptok> and yeah, THAT is unfriendly. jrib got nothin' on me. | |
| [15:10] <space_cadet> well, do what you think is best. (not sarcasm) | |
| [15:11] <mneptok> all of us use Ubuntu IRC namespace solely at the discretion of the greater community. there are some soft rules about what topics get discussed in what channels. | |
| [15:11] <mneptok> there are some much, MUCH harder rules about ban evasion. | |
| [15:12] <mneptok> these things are not enforced at whim. they serve a purpose. and no one is above the rules simply because of how they feel at the time. | |
| [15:12] <mneptok> twice now you have shoved the rules aside due to personal exigency. that's some stellar community focus. | |
| [15:12] <mneptok> that though in your mind is all the action i am going to take. | |
| [15:13] <mneptok> *thought | |
| [15:14] <space_cadet> is there a link somewhere to the full rules? | |
| [15:14] <mneptok> !coc | |
| [15:14] <ubottu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ | |
| [15:14] <space_cadet> ty | |
| [15:14] <mneptok> i'd also like you to look at this channel log | |
| [15:14] <mneptok> (sorry for the mini-flood): | |
| [15:15] <mneptok> 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ | |
| [15:15] <mneptok> 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@71.238.149.33] by LjL | |
| [15:15] <mneptok> 10:35 -!- space_cadet [[email protected]] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"] | |
| [15:15] <mneptok> 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o LjL] by LjL | |
| [15:15] <mneptok> 10:39 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ | |
| [15:15] <mneptok> 10:39 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b *!*@71.238.149.33] by LjL | |
| [15:16] <mneptok> so you see, your evasion wasn't even necessary. | |
| [15:16] <space_cadet> lol | |
| [15:18] <space_cadet> well again, ty 4 the info, | |
| [15:18] <space_cadet> hopefully my 8.10 problem is resolved, | |
| [15:19] <space_cadet> but I must reboot to find out.... (I also bookmarked the nfo u gave me) | |
| [15:19] <mneptok> i think that's the least of your issues with Ubuntu at this point. | |
| [15:19] <space_cadet> i think the issues presented have nothing to do with ubuntu | |
| [15:19] <space_cadet> they have to do with anger management | |
| [15:19] <mneptok> then you need to read the Code Of Conduct more carefully. | |
| [15:20] <space_cadet> bookmarked it. will read it upon reboot. | |
| [15:20] <mneptok> Ubuntu ain't just ones and zeroes. | |
| [15:20] <space_cadet> sorry for all the drama guys. | |
| [15:21] <bazhang> masterfully done good sir | |
| [15:21] <mneptok> dum dee dee | |
| [15:21] <bazhang> I had no idea what to do there. | |
| [15:23] <mneptok> i couldn't find my lighter, so ... | |
| [15:24] <bazhang> haha | |
| [15:58] <bazhang> wild | |
| [16:03] <bazhang> okay that was insane | |
| [16:38] <gnomefreak> #ot has a chance of going very very bad | |
| [16:43] <bazhang> I left for 5 minutes and that happens :/ | |
| [16:44] <gnomefreak> its all good im there and watching while i cant do much else at this time | |
| [16:44] <bazhang> ikanobbori may need a wake-up call | |
| [16:44] <bazhang> some very unpleasant language from him | |
| [16:46] <gnomefreak> i agree | |
| [16:46] <gnomefreak> i didnt see that part until i scrolled | |
| [16:58] <gnomefreak> go figure i stopped watching because they were being good than that happens. | |
| [16:59] <bazhang> its mostly just ikanobori | |
| [16:59] <bazhang> groovyorange and icebuntu/etc have stayed away | |
| [17:12] <jussi01> ikonia: you around? | |
| [17:12] <bazhang> heh | |
| [17:13] <ikonia> jussi01: yes, here I am | |
| [17:14] * jussi01 points ikonia to pm... | |
| [17:14] <bazhang> enough trollwatching in -ot for me, night all | |
| [17:15] <gnomefreak> bazhang: night | |
| [18:15] <LjL> i'm around now | |
| [18:19] <LjL> was anyone watching -ot when Cobalt left with an expletive? | |
| [18:19] <LjL> was he justified in doing so? | |
| [18:43] <LjL> meh, emma flooding #ubuntu | |
| [18:43] <LjL> She Should Know Better | |
| [18:50] <JosefAssad> so, I'm connected to freenode on port 8001 and I'm still not allowed in #ubuntu | |
| [18:55] <LjL> yes you are | |
| [18:56] <LjL> when the bot told you to "please wait a couple of minutes" | |
| [18:56] <LjL> it meant that you had to kindly wait a couple of minutes | |
| [18:56] <LjL> now, it's just told you that you can presently rejoin | |
| [18:58] <JosefAssad> The meaning of wait a couple of minutes wasn't something I'd been having trouble interpreting. | |
| [18:59] <JosefAssad> I did ask the bot to test me quite a while ago to no avail. I see it works now. | |
| [19:00] <LjL> JosefAssad: i see. well it's worked this time | |
| [19:00] <LjL> JosefAssad: sorry if there's been any inconvenience | |
| [19:01] <JosefAssad> I hope the rest of your community are smarter than me. Cheers. | |
| [19:04] <ubottu> Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (hotgirlcandy9023) | |
| [19:17] <Gary> klined | |
| [19:17] <LjL> yeah, the viole(n)t highlights in several channels hinted to that fact | |
| [19:25] <LjL> factoid proposal: !list is <reply> No, this is not THAT kind of channel. Move along. | |
| [19:42] <mneptok> counter proposal: alias it to !mirrors | |
| [19:43] <LjL> counter proposal: just auto-ban the people using it | |
| [19:43] <LjL> especially if they come from .it | |
| [19:43] <mneptok> agreed. next item? | |
| [19:43] <LjL> the -it bot actually says "this is not a file sharing channel" if you do !list... | |
| [19:47] <mneptok> does it whisper it, snake-like, with a Sicilian accent? | |
| [20:10] <jussi01> mneptok: stop airing your fantasies :P | |
| [20:43] <LjL> mneptok: imma not shorre whatte yerre implayinga | |
| [21:14] <ikonia> I see BUGabundo is trying yet another IP address | |
| [23:43] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Roozbeh|Away about away | |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | |