2009/03/23/#xubuntu.txt

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[03:25] <jimisrvrox_> hey guys I got network manager to see my card and have a signal and all BUT for whatever reason I cannot seem to connect to my router...im confused because ive installed the drivers and all but idk
[03:27] <cody-somerville> When you say connect to your router, do you mean connect to your network or connect to your router's web admin interface via a web browser?
[03:32] <jimisrvrox_> connect to the network..
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[05:32] <narothepharoh> how do i run themes on xfce desktop?
[05:32] <forces> run?
[05:32] <forces> you have to install themes
[05:32] <forces> not run it
[05:33] <narothepharoh> I downloaded a couple how do i install?
[05:33] <forces> copy into your .themes directory
[05:34] <narothepharoh> copy the whole folder?
[05:34] <forces> /usr/share/themes
[05:35] <forces> if you have icons
[05:35] <forces> /usr/share/icons
[05:36] <narothepharoh> there is a bunch of themes there already how do i check them out?
[05:37] <forces> just copy your theme there
[05:37] <narothepharoh> it wont let me paste
[05:37] <forces> root?
[05:38] <narothepharoh> yes
[05:38] <forces> you must read the user guides
[05:38] <forces> !noob
[05:38] <ubottu> Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[05:38] <forces> !manual
[05:38] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about manual
[05:38] <forces> !guides
[05:38] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guides
[05:38] <forces> !user
[05:38] <ubottu> To add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo
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[05:38] <forces> !new
[05:38] <ubottu> documentation is to be found at http://help.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com - General linux documentation: http://www.tldp.org - http://rute.2038bug.com
[05:38] <forces> there
[05:39] <narothepharoh> I am set as root user anyways how do i use the themes that are in that folder
[05:39] <forces> go to xfce configuration
[05:39] <forces> in x menu
[05:40] <forces> !theme
[05:40] <ubottu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:40] <forces> !themes
[05:40] <forces> read the installation intruccion
[05:40] <forces> dont be silly
[05:41] <narothepharoh> dude there is no instruction im not stupid just dont know where all this shit is where is the x menu?
[05:42] <forces> O.O
[05:42] <forces> your welcome
[05:44] <narothepharoh> dude youre a dick I thought this was to help people out not put them down grow up and learn some patience im sure you werent pro at first either
[05:45] <forces> hmm
[05:45] <forces> im an english learning
[05:45]  * forces se expresa mejor en español
[05:46] <forces> no entendi ni un carajo de lo que quisiste decir
[05:46] <narothepharoh> Semon Puto
[05:48] <forces> es lo único que les enseñan ahi
[05:48] <forces> lol
[05:48] <forces> y es simon
[05:48] <forces> no semon
[05:49] <forces> y putis no es una ofensa
[05:49] <forces> :)
[05:53] <narothepharoh> have fun here by yourself someone helped me already you should be banned from here
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[14:40] <tingle> how can i open a pptx file whit xubuntu
[14:43] <crauser> tingle, you can't
[14:43] <crauser> you have to install openoffice
[14:43] <crauser> I did it with openoffice 3
[14:44] <crauser> I think openoffice2 can't open pptx, but u can try
[14:52] <bradley__> hi.  i have an SD card that i want to mount on my eee pc but i don't know how.  could someone give me some tips?
[14:53] <forces> mount /dev/sdax
[14:53] <bradley__> ok
[14:53] <bradley__> i will give that a try thanks
[14:54] <bradley__> should i do that with 'sudo'?
[14:54] <forces> not should
[14:54] <forces> you have
[14:54] <bradley__> haha ok
[14:55] <bradley__> it gave me this warning:
[14:55] <bradley__> [mntent]: warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[14:55] <bradley__> mount: can't find /dev/sdax in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[14:55] <forces> you dont have to use sda
[14:55] <forces> use you divice
[14:56] <forces> look for it with fdisk -l
[14:56] <forces> sda = first HDD primary
[14:56] <forces> your memory can be sdb1
[14:56] <forces> or sdc1
[14:58] <bradley__> it didn't show up with fdisk -l
[14:58] <forces> sudo fdisk -l
[14:59] <forces> ele
[14:59] <bradley__> yes
[14:59] <forces> el
[14:59] <forces> not 1, not one
[14:59] <bradley__> sda1 is the OS
[15:00] <bradley__> sdb1 is my home directory
[15:00] <bradley__> and that is all it showed
[15:02] <OvezirTheBest> Aloha brotha'z
[15:12] <slow-motion> hi
[15:15] <OvezirTheBest> xubuntu better than ubuntu?
[15:16] <forces> the question is
[15:16] <forces> xfce is better than gnome?
[15:16] <slow-motion> yes and your penis is 2cm larger when using it
[15:17] <OvezirTheBest> xfce worst:D
[15:17] <OvezirTheBest> Sorry brotha I have a big cock dick:D
[15:17] <forces> !trolls
[15:17] <ubottu> trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubotu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel
[15:18] <forces> !troll
[15:18] <OvezirTheBest> No I am not a troll
[15:18] <forces> !kill
[15:18] <ubottu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[15:18] <forces> !admin
[15:18] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin
[15:18] <forces> !admins
[15:18] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admins
[15:18] <forces> xD
[15:18] <forces> just /ignore
[15:18] <forces> :)
[15:20] <OvezirTheBest> slow-motion are you ready for fight brotha?
[15:20] <slow-motion> that scares me
[15:21] <OvezirTheBest> Right. let's come fight dude
[15:22] <OvezirTheBest> Kocsog pingvinbaszok:D
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[15:56] <MoonTiger> hi :)
[15:56] <charlie-tca> Good Morning
[15:57] <MoonTiger> can i ask a question about xubuntu 8.10 here?
[15:58] <tavasti> MoonTiger, that's why this channel is
[15:58] <MoonTiger> ok cool :)
[15:58] <MoonTiger> its a small thing but when i change the theme for the login window it doesnt stick after a reboot
[15:59] <MoonTiger> any clues why?
[15:59] <Slonkie> xubuntu should have a webshop too :(
[16:05] <xenocit> hi hi
[16:05] <charlie-tca> !hi
[16:05] <ubottu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[16:06] <xenocit> anybody help to me?
[16:06] <charlie-tca> !anybody
[16:06] <ubottu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[16:07] <xenocit> i like install xmms player on xubuntu 8.10
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Go to Applications -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[16:08] <charlie-tca> Search for xmms player
[16:08] <charlie-tca> left click the little box on the left, click apply
[16:15] <zoredache> I believe xmms is deprecated
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[16:18] <mosalo> if the regular intrepid live cd won't boot
[16:18] <mosalo> will trying the alternate cd make a difference?
[16:18] <zoredache> perhaps....
[16:18] <charlie-tca> might. What is it doing? did it pass the integrity check?
[16:18] <zoredache> what exactly do you mean by won't boot
[16:19] <mosalo> yea it sure did, i installed successfully on my laptop now i'm trying with my older emachine desktop
[16:19] <mosalo> the emachine just doesnt want to boot from the cd even though i chose it as #1 priority in boot menu
[16:20] <zoredache> can you read other cds?
[16:20] <mosalo> 90% sure i'll double check
[16:27] <mosalo> ya i can read cds in xp just fine
[16:29] <mosalo> so what do you think is the problem?
[16:30] <mosalo> can I force it to boot from a floppy & then to cd?
[16:34] <MoonTiger> so nobody has an idea why i cant change the login window theme then?
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[17:07] <Mat-Cauthon> um... for some reason, when i connect my external hdd it's called sdc/sdc1 now, when earlier it was always called sdb... anyone have an idea why that could be the case?
[17:07] <charlie-tca> Did you add a drive or usb device?
[17:07] <zoredache> maybe sdb is being used by some other device
[17:07] <Mat-Cauthon> i don't have any device called sdb at the moment, no
[17:09] <Mat-Cauthon> i did disconnect the hdd while it was still running before though, was messing around while trying to get automount to work
[17:09] <zoredache> that probably would be it... The kernel still thinks sdb is being used.  Reboot, and it will probably be better
[17:10] <Mat-Cauthon> mmmh... okay, i'll give it a try :]
[17:10] <forces> os[Linux 2.6.28-11-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "jaunty" 9.04] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2400  @ 1.83GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.0GB, 74.3% free] disk[Total: 227.8GB, 79.8% free] video[Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[17:10] <zoredache> you really should avoid disconnecting mounted filesystems
[17:14] <kpomeroy> Hi, I'm new to IRC and fairly new to Xubuntu, and I am having a problem that I'm hoping someone could help point me in the right direction
[17:15] <Mat-Cauthon> hmm, it's back to sdb/sdb1 now
[17:15] <zoredache> !ask
[17:15] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[17:15] <Mat-Cauthon> but for some reason the file sdc does still exist ;)
[17:16] <kpomeroy> My top and bottom panel has disappeared and I can't open the panel setting in settings manager. What should I do to restore it?
[17:17] <zoredache> only the top panel has disappeared, or all of them have disappeared?
[17:17] <Mat-Cauthon> try alt+f2 and enter xfce4-panel
[17:17] <kpomeroy> all of them, and when I click on the panel button in the setting manager nothing happens
[17:18] <kpomeroy> There is an error when I type that command. I get: "he command "xfce-panel" failed to run:
[17:18] <kpomeroy> Failed to execute child process "xfce-panel" (No such file or directory)"
[17:19] <zoredache> xfce4-panel
[17:19] <Mat-Cauthon> don't forget the 4 ;)
[17:19] <kpomeroy> ok that worked thats so much
[17:19] <Mat-Cauthon> what did you do before it disappeared?
[17:20] <kpomeroy> I don't know, I had been idle for a long time in hibernation mode and I came back and the panel disappeared.
[17:21] <kpomeroy> I think this happened once before and  I just reinstalled the distro, I didn't want to do that this time
[17:27] <Slonkie> how do i install .bin files?
[17:37] <chewit> can anyone tell me why xubuntu uses Thunderbird over Claw Mail
[17:38] <chewit> I would have thought claw mail would be better, since its GTK, uses Tango theme, its much faster and lighter, has the same functionality
[17:38] <charlie-tca> Probably because in the past, claws-mail was Sylpheed unstable
[17:40] <chewit> oh
[17:40] <chewit> any change xubuntu will use claw mail
[17:41] <chewit> thunderbird doesn't integrate well and is very slow and heavy
[17:41] <chewit> chance*
[17:41] <charlie-tca> not for jaunty, but it could be suggested for karmic
[17:41] <chewit> ok
[17:42] <charlie-tca> Claws-mail does appear to be pretty much stable now. And, it is it's own application now
[17:43] <knome> chewit, maybe add a bug in launchpad so we can make it a wishlist and discuss about it for karmic
[17:43] <knome> (and to remember us to do it)
[17:44] <chewit> ok, will do
[17:44] <knome> thanks
[17:57] <chewit> done - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/claws-mail/+bug/347440
[17:57] <MoonTiger> did anyone know about the login window theme changing problem btw?
[17:58] <charlie-tca> MoonTiger: what version of Xubuntu?
[17:58] <charlie-tca> chewit: What if we don't use Tango icons?
[17:59] <chewit> change the theme
[17:59] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, 8.10
[17:59] <chewit> there are quite a few different themes
[17:59] <charlie-tca> okay
[18:00] <charlie-tca> MoonTiger: Bringing up 8.10 to see
[18:00] <charlie-tca> A little slow here, got two installs going, too
[18:01] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, thnx
[18:05] <charlie-tca> Which theme are you trying to use?
[18:06] <MoonTiger> charlie-tca, any theme really ... i change it and it takes for logon / logoff but when i reboot it goes back to some win95 looking horror
[18:08] <charlie-tca> Might be it is changing to random on the restart. If you check in the settings -> Login Window, is it still on "Selected only"?
[18:09] <MoonTiger> i dont see that option
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Applications -> Settings -> Login Window, Local tab, Theme
[18:11] <charlie-tca> or, where are you setting this?
[18:12] <Slor> Hey guys - how do I configure apt to use a web proxy?
[18:12] <MoonTiger> i dont have a "theme" option on that tab
[18:12] <MoonTiger> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:12] <MoonTiger> my bad doh!
[18:12] <MoonTiger> sorry for being a dummy
[18:12] <MoonTiger> :|
[18:13] <MoonTiger> oh but wait
[18:13] <charlie-tca> No problem, is that where you set it?
[18:13] <MoonTiger> thats not it
[18:13] <MoonTiger> if i have it set to plain
[18:13] <MoonTiger> in the log in window itself i can select a theme from the dropdown
[18:14] <MoonTiger> and it used to stick past reboots
[18:14] <MoonTiger> now it doesnt
[18:16] <charlie-tca> I would suggest filing a bug on that. Make sure you give a good description for how to reproduce it. It sounds like a regression if it did work and is now broken
[18:17] <MoonTiger> ok thnx
[18:23] <charlie-tca> chewit: your bug is confirmed, don't take it to brainstorm.
[18:26] <chewit> oh
[18:26] <chewit> to late
[18:26] <chewit> just have
[18:26] <chewit> i could remove it
[18:26] <Slor> so, to add a proxy to apt, do I just add a file into /etc/apt/conf.d containing the approprate "acquire" line?
[18:27] <charlie-tca> It just adds more clutter to brainstorm. Xubuntu developers will make the decision anyway.
[18:27] <chewit> ok
[18:27] <chewit> i will try and remove it
[18:28] <charlie-tca> Slor: don't know enough about using proxy
[18:28] <durt> Slor, I believe apt (wget) will use whatever is set as http_proxy in your environment.
[18:30] <Slor> I'll try exporting that in the form of ip:port and see if it takes.
[18:39] <lukinfore> hi
[18:39] <lukinfore> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/347455
[18:40] <lukinfore> any idea how to trace what happens? maybe some command-line switching tool
[18:40] <charlie-tca> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[18:40] <charlie-tca> is worth a try
[18:41] <charlie-tca> Otherwise, an Strace or Valgrind might be helpful
[18:44] <lukinfore> attach X to gdb? or what process?
[18:46] <charlie-tca> aw, *(())* . It ain't gonna work, is it?
[18:47] <charlie-tca> I'm thinking this is going to be more work than it is worth for you. Anything in the ~/.xsession-errors log?
[18:49] <Mat-Cauthon> problem: ever since i disconnected my external hdd while volman-thunar tried to automount it i have an extra entry dev/sdc although i have only 2 hdds (int+ext)
[18:49] <charlie-tca> lukinfore: You need to addd to the report. Which version of Xubuntu?
[18:49] <charlie-tca> you put in that you can't reproduce it? What can't be reproduced? Give specific steps to make this happen, 1. 2. 3.
[18:50] <Mat-Cauthon> if my external one is not connected at startup that extra entry is called dev/sdb and my external becomes dev/sdc when i connect it, which is annoying :<
[18:50] <Mat-Cauthon> any hints how i can get rid of this? rebooting didn't help
[18:51] <charlie-tca> Check /etc/fstab for any entry about it?
[18:51] <charlie-tca> Also see if there is a folder in /media for both drives
[18:52] <lukinfore> oh, sure, i would, it's jaunty
[18:52] <lukinfore> and X crash can't be reproduced
[18:53] <charlie-tca> But everything else can be reproduced?
[18:53] <Mat-Cauthon> no entry in fstab
[18:53] <Mat-Cauthon> and nothing in /media either, except a folder i use for manual mounting
[18:54] <charlie-tca> I'm out of ideas. Next person?
[18:56] <lukinfore> believed it was really understandable
[18:56] <lukinfore> yes, everythins else is reproducable
[18:56] <charlie-tca> lukinfore: anything in /var/log/Xorg.log or Xorg.0.log or syslog?
[18:57] <lukinfore> nothing interestind as in .xsession-errors
[18:57] <charlie-tca> It might be just me. But I have to try to reproduce it usually, so I ask silly questions
[19:08] <Talarion> Hi there. I just want to set up my newly installed Xubuntu the way my windows is. I`ve got a problem setting up a second screen for a dual view desktop. If i try to save the new configuration to the X-Server configuration file, there is a Error "Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'." What can i do?
[19:09] <charlie-tca> Use "sudo" to create the new file?
[19:11] <Talarion> sry im a noob. I dont used the terminal for that. i try to change it with the graphical surface.
[19:13] <charlie-tca> You won't be able to backup or save any file in /etc/X11 unless you do it as root. To do it with the graphical interface, try hitting F2, type "gksu thunar", hit enter
[19:14] <charlie-tca> This gives you a root copy of Thunar and if you click to edit a file in it, you are editing as root
[19:17] <Talarion> I was triing it with the Nvidea Program from the "Nvidia accelarated graphics driver"
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I don't know anything about that.
[19:19] <Talarion> how do i restart the x server to test if something changed?
[19:19] <TheSheep> alt+ctrl+backspace, but it will log you out
[19:19] <Talarion> without restart, because i want to learn something :)
[19:19] <charlie-tca> either ctrl+alt+backspace or logout/login
[19:19] <Talarion> ok thanks
[19:22] <manuel__> no effects sadly
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[19:32] <Slonkie> How can i remove Pidgin and transmission
[19:32] <Slonkie> I can't remove them in the "Add/Remove"
[19:33] <charlie-tca> Use Applications -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[19:34] <Slonkie> ah smart
[19:34] <charlie-tca> They may have additional dependencies you will have removed also, though
[19:34] <Slonkie> Tought i were only able to install apps from there :) Thanks
[19:34] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[19:35] <Slonkie> So now i just wanna know if anyone got any experience in pyNeighborhood ?
[19:36] <Slonkie> trying to mount my windows network share trough it, but it just says failed to mount.
[19:37] <lukinfore> so
[19:38] <lukinfore> attaching x to gdb from x was mistake
[19:38] <charlie-tca> I could see that.
[19:39] <lukinfore> when second server running nothing happens
[19:39] <charlie-tca> What about the already running backtrace?
[19:39] <lukinfore> it handle switching correctly
[19:39] <lukinfore> one question
[19:39] <charlie-tca> I'll try
[19:40] <lukinfore> how to make apt-get treat install targer as regexp?
[19:40] <lukinfore> *target
[19:40] <charlie-tca> I don't know. Maybe someone else does?
[19:40] <lukinfore> so when i try xserver-*dbg
[19:41] <lukinfore> it treat as package
[19:42] <charlie-tca> You did try a restart of the system, right?
[19:42] <charlie-tca> to see if the bug came back...
[19:42] <lukinfore> yep, one still near here
[19:43] <charlie-tca> This isn't in a virtual machine, is it?
[19:44] <lukinfore> no, real desktop
[19:45] <charlie-tca> Can you add your hardware, the make, model of the computer and the video card to the report? I have a feeling it is going to be against the xorg driver spcecific to the card
[19:45] <charlie-tca> s/spcecific/specific
[19:51] <lukinfore> or it gone away, lol
[19:51] <lukinfore> maybe cause of second Xes
[19:51] <charlie-tca> maybe
[19:52] <lukinfore> what do you mean model of computer?
[19:52] <lukinfore> full hardware profile?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> yeah, like make=Dell model=Optiplex,
[19:53] <lukinfore> it is desktop
[19:53] <charlie-tca> perhaps a sudo lspci log
[19:53] <charlie-tca> lspci -vv
[19:54] <lukinfore> with different firms component
[19:54] <lukinfore> ok
[19:54] <charlie-tca> The log, then. It gives all the information
[20:02] <brad_> Hello I have recently installed Xubuntu and i am getting having some trouble... I have some drivers for my video card on another partition and fdisk -l returned cannot open /dev/sda
[20:15] <mib_qlvol6> help!  i'm in the computer store and i need a printer for an important project tonite ... looking at hp deskjet d1520, can anyone tell me if this will work with my ubuntu/xubuntu boxes?  i don't find it in the list of printers at
[20:15] <mib_qlvol6> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp
[20:18] <mib_qlvol6> i have like no budget for this, but the printer is $24 on sale and i think that will be cheaper than going to kinko's and printing 100 pages
[20:20] <charlie-tca> Kinko's is more than 25 cents a page now?
[20:20] <mib_qlvol6> hey charlie, whatever it is, its plus $12 / hour
[20:21] <charlie-tca> I see
[20:21] <mib_qlvol6> i have to retrieve and pull emails sent and received over the last year from lawyer
[20:21] <charlie-tca> You on your own computer at the store?
[20:22] <charlie-tca> You could ask them to let you try the printer
[20:22] <mib_qlvol6> no, on mibbit at one of their terminals
[20:23] <mib_qlvol6> anybody have any luck getting an hp d1520 to work?
[20:24] <zoredache> mib_qlvol6: deskjet printers are not cheaper then kinkos
[20:24] <zoredache> as soon as you buy that
[20:24] <zoredache> as soon as you buy that $80 print cartridge that lasts 400 pages you'll understand
[20:25] <mib_qlvol6> no, the print cartridges are about $20 i think
[20:26] <mib_qlvol6> and they do refills for $10 black ink at walgreens
[20:26] <zoredache> don't think, be sure... and those refils are crap in my experience
[20:27] <zoredache> the problem is that the nozzles get clogged, refilling the ink won't help that...
[20:27] <mib_qlvol6> wonder if i should just buy some ink for my cuz's mac and use it for this project
[20:28] <mib_qlvol6> but i would rather have a printer for the future emergencies ... i never print anything, but this *has* to be printed
[20:29] <mib_qlvol6> does anyone suppose there is a possibility this hp deskjet 1520 might work even if its not on the page at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrintersHp?
[20:32] <zoredache> http://www.openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-D1520
[20:33] <zoredache> it looks  like it may work... If I where you, I would save up and buy a inexpensive laser though
[20:35] <slow-motion> n8
[20:35] <zoredache> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_d1500_series.html
[20:38] <mib_qlvol6> zoredache, so from what i read there it *should* work, huh?  is hplip something already on system or available thru synaptic?
[20:38] <Slonkie> hmm, i'm having trouble getting java to work in firefox in xubuntu
[20:38] <Slonkie> I know theres a need for more information, but i've tried to install the latest from their website, but firefox doesnt use it when i do..
[20:41] <zoredache> mib_qlvol6: it is something you can install I believe
[20:42] <mib_qlvol6> hmmmm... ok, well, thanks for help guys, guess i will go ask about return policy and decide if i want to take this and a $15 printer cartridge that doesn't come with it ... hell it doesn't even come with print cable, but i have usb to peripheral at home
[20:55] <basajaun> hi all
[20:57] <Kasm279> yay, i burned it!
[20:58] <Kasm279> hello?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Hello
[20:59] <Kasm279> i finally downloaded it and burned it!
[20:59] <charlie-tca> great! what?
[20:59] <Kasm279> xubunt and the edubunt add on
[20:59] <dj_bushido> huzzah? wait, what?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> good for you.
[21:00] <Kasm279> forgut the "u" on those
[21:00] <basajaun> hi charlie-tca
[21:00] <charlie-tca> hello, basajaun
[21:01] <Kasm279> can i install xubuntu in a dorectory other than /ubuntu?
[21:02] <Kasm279> directory**
[21:02] <charlie-tca> When you install, it creates the directories itself, most of the files go to /
[21:02] <charlie-tca> Perhaps you have /ubuntu under windows?
[21:03] <Kasm279> (i mean install under windows)
[21:03] <Kasm279> i already have kubuntu installed that way
[21:03] <knome> Kasm279, there is no need to install xubuntu then. just add the xubuntu-desktop package from kubuntu.
[21:04] <Kasm279> ok, how?
[21:04] <knome> Kasm279, are you familiar with synaptic?
[21:04] <basajaun> synaptic or the equivalent Kasm279
[21:04] <Kasm279> adept?
[21:04] <knome> Kasm279, adept, yes, for kubuntu.
[21:05] <basajaun> yes sorry Kasm279
[21:05] <Kasm279> kubuntu is the best version of ubuntu that ive tried
[21:05] <knome> Kasm279, just find the package called xubuntu-desktop. it's a meta package and will install everything you would get with a default installation of xubuntu.
[21:05] <Kasm279> ok
[21:06] <Kasm279> it will give me xfce, right?
[21:06] <basajaun> yes
[21:06] <Kasm279> in addition to kde?
[21:06] <knome> Kasm279, exactly.
[21:07] <Kasm279> (lik you can switch between the two?)
[21:07] <knome> Kasm279, yes.
[21:07] <Kasm279> ok
[21:07] <Kasm279> thanks
[21:07] <knome> np. have fun
[21:07] <Kasm279> maybe ill also get gnome
[21:08] <knome> that would be ubuntu-desktop
[21:08] <Kasm279> my screen looks bigger with kubuntu as compared with windows
[21:09] <basajaun> hard to dompare Kasm279
[21:09] <basajaun> compare lol Kasm279
[21:10] <knome> i've got bigger and bigger monitors since i installed xubuntu :P
[21:10] <basajaun> :)
[21:15] <OG1> Hi! I installed Xubuntu 8.04 in my pc, it's an Acer Travelmate 4000, but it's freezing. I can't log in. I used an alternative Cd to install it. What can I do to solve my problem? Should I install some driver? Which one and how? Can someone help me?
[21:16] <basajaun> OG1:  it sounds as if the cd was not complete
[21:17] <Kasm279> xubuntu-desktop isnt there
[21:17] <basajaun> may re-download cd  OG1
[21:19] <basajaun> Kasm279:  check you repositories
[21:19] <Kasm279> sources?
[21:19] <Kasm279> wat needs to be there?
[21:19] <basajaun> yes Kasm279
[21:19] <OG1> I check the cd, i think it's complete.
[21:21] <basajaun> Kasm279: universe  and multiverse I believe
[21:21] <OG1> But i will try to re-download and try again.
[21:21] <OG1> I'll be back soon. :) thanks basajaun
[21:22] <basajaun> you are welcome OG1
[21:22] <Kasm279> universe and multiverse?
[21:23] <knome> !info xubuntu-desktop
[21:23] <ubottu> xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.75 (intrepid), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[21:23] <zoredache> how much memory does that computer have OG1?
[21:23] <Kasm279> !weather
[21:23] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about weather
[21:24] <Kasm279> !you
[21:24] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you
[21:24]  * Kasm279 is kind of bored
[21:24] <knome> Kasm279, please stop playing with the bot
[21:24] <Kasm279> ok
[21:24] <knome> Kasm279, #xubuntu-offtopic
[21:25] <knome> :)
[21:25] <Kasm279> basajaun, wat is universe and multiverse
[21:26] <OG1> zoredache: 512 MB. :S
[21:26] <charlie-tca> !sources
[21:26] <ubottu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories
[21:27] <charlie-tca> Kasm279: see above ^ ^
[21:27] <Kasm279> thanks
[21:27] <charlie-tca> You can click on the links if you cursor over them
[21:27] <basajaun> Acer travelmates were 512 standard and 1.5 processor zoredache  sounds like enough
[21:28] <Kasm279> im on my chatting on my mac
[21:29] <basajaun> OG1:  it should be enough I installed xubuntu for my son yesterday on an old Toshiba with same specs and it runs like a dream
[21:29] <charlie-tca> !ubottu | Kasm279
[21:29] <ubottu> Kasm279: Hi! I'm #xubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:31] <zoredache> OG1: I was just wanted to know if it was less then 256, which it isn't.  The installer does lots of error checking, if it completed, you should have a good copy of the OS.  A reinstall shouldn't be necessary
[21:32] <OG1> basajaun: It should run like a dream, but I don't know why, it don't.
[21:33] <zoredache> I suspect I would run memtest86 in this case, at let to through at least once pass, just to verify your RAM is good.
[21:34] <zoredache> I suspect I would also try booting to safe mode, and just doing random things for a bit and see if it locks up there
[21:34] <OG1> zoredache: Ok, i will try.
[21:35] <Kasm279> none of hose sites give url's
[21:35] <charlie-tca> URL's to what?
[21:35] <charlie-tca> Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[21:36] <charlie-tca> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[21:36] <charlie-tca> ??
[21:36] <tomsdale> Gday - I have an old nVidia Gfx (Vanta/Vanta LT) rev15 , nvidia-glx-legacy  doesn't want to install. Should I try installing one of the more recent nvidia packages?
[21:37] <charlie-tca> You could try envy
[21:38] <Kasm279> to the repositorys
[21:38] <zoredache> Kasm279: what release are you looking for  hardy, intrepid?
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Thats because you add repositories to the /etc/apt/sources.list
[21:39] <charlie-tca> They should already be there, just commented out.
[21:39] <Kasm279> ?
[21:40] <Kasm279> im running intrepid
[21:40] <Kasm279> (8.10)
[21:40] <charlie-tca> Kasm279: are in Kubuntu or Xubuntu?
[21:41] <Kasm279> kubuntu
[21:41] <Kasm279> trying to add xfce an gnome to it
[21:41] <charlie-tca> Maybe as them in #kubuntu for help getting universe and multiverse added
[21:41] <Kasm279> ok
[21:41] <Kasm279> did you see the origonal question>
[21:41] <Kasm279> ?
[21:42] <zoredache> I believe you are trying to install the xubuntu-desktop package?
[21:42] <Kasm279> yes
[21:42] <Kasm279> and the ubuntu-desktop package
[21:44] <zoredache> well if you did something weird, and some how trashed it, you may need to repair your /etc/apt/sources.list  here is mine http://pastebin.com/f1eba20ba
[21:45] <Kasm279> can i install the things from the cd's?
[21:46] <tomsdale> charlie-tca: sorry my kde crashed - envy is the installer script for nvidia cards?
[21:46] <zoredache> what do you mean?  Are you asking if you can use a cd as a source of packages?   If you have an alternate-cd then yes
[21:46] <Kasm279> i have the standard cd......
[21:46] <zoredache> you would do an 'apt-cdrom add' while the disk is in to let apt index the disk
[21:47] <zoredache> I don't believe that works for the livecds...
[21:48] <Kasm279> can i add it thru the scorces editor (i saw a  "add cd" button?
[21:48] <Kasm279> )?**
[21:48] <Kasm279> O_O?
[21:48] <zoredache> I think the add button would only work if it was an alternate cd...
[21:48] <knome> !patience
[21:48] <ubottu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[21:50] <Kasm279> ?= a hand scrathing my head
[21:50] <Kasm279> O_O?
[21:50] <Kasm279> get it?
[21:51] <Kasm279> lol
[21:51] <knome> Kasm279, you can try to add the cd via sources editor, yes.
[21:51] <knome> please calm down.
[21:55] <Kasm279> i wasnt mad
[21:58] <Kasm279> is there an xubuntu version for powerpc bsed machines?
[21:58] <knome> yes, but it's not officially supported
[21:59] <Kasm279> where can i find it?
[21:59] <zoredache> !ppc
[21:59] <ubottu> PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ
[21:59] <Kasm279> (mac os is getting boring)
[22:00] <Kasm279> thank you
[22:00] <Kasm279> !amd
[22:00] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amd
[22:00] <Kasm279> !amd64
[22:00] <ubottu> AMD64 and EMT64 are fully supported architectures on Ubuntu. See http://tinyurl.com/3jkole and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amd64 for more information.
[22:00] <Kasm279> ok
[22:00] <tomsdale> !nvidia
[22:00] <ubottu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:00] <Kasm279> !thanks
[22:00] <ubottu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[22:01] <Kasm279> lol
[22:01] <toni81> xD
[22:08] <basajaun> any luck OG1 ?
[22:09] <Kasm279> !intel
[22:09] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about intel
[22:09]  * Kasm279 smacks ubottu for not knowing about intel
[22:09] <Kasm279> !smack
[22:09] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smack
[22:10] <knome> Kasm279, please, you can query ubottu as well.
[22:10] <zoredache> !botabuse
[22:10] <ubottu> Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".
[22:10] <Kasm279> lol
[22:11] <tomsdale> !Shuttleworth
[22:11] <ubottu> Mark "sabdfl" Shuttleworth is our favourite cosmonaut, the founder of Canonical and the primary driver behind Ubuntu. You can find pieces of his thinking at http://www.markshuttleworth.com
[22:14] <OG1> basajaun: Nothing yet. I'm trying to re-install it.
[22:19] <Dante123> 	                   		  		  hi all, installed xubuntu on a sony vaio rx550.  Under windows there is a special driver that controls the fans so they dont run so high.  In xubuntu they are running at full speed all the time.  I have googled various pages that talk about setting up lm-sensors etc. to control fan.  If/when I get this working- how do I make it permanent or does lm-sensor remember the settings???		 		 			 				____________
[22:23] <knome> Dante123, most possibly it will remember then automatically.
[22:27] <BlueAidan> alright, so I went back to hardy because of the problems I was having with the intel xorg driver. now I have no sound.
[22:27] <BlueAidan> alsamixer shows valid info
[22:28] <BlueAidan> if I mute/unmute stuff I can hear a pop
[22:43] <dj_bushido> can anybody help me remove a usplash theme?
[22:43] <dj_bushido> I installed one and its buggy and crashy. I am currently in Fedora to try and fix it.
[22:49] <dj_bushido> i can remove the theme, but the kernel needs reconfigured, and that's a problem because I can't execute inside the drive.
[22:50] <dj_bushido> what I need to do is "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)"
[22:55] <dj_bushido> only I am on my Fedora machine
[23:03] <zoredache> dj_bushido: do you have the ubuntu filesystem mounted?
[23:04] <dj_bushido> yeah.
[23:05] <zoredache> dj_bushido: where you not able to boot into safe mode?
[23:06] <zoredache> anyway, you might try running a command like chroot /mountpoint /bin/bash where mountpoint is the folder you have the ubuntu filesystem mounted
[23:07] <zoredache> if that works, then do a 'update-initramfs -u
[23:11] <dj_bushido> i'm getting a lot of "cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied" errors
[23:11] <dj_bushido> even with su
[23:12] <zoredache> when are you getting these errors?
[23:13] <dj_bushido> after the chroot, running the "update" as root is generating the errors
[23:13] <zoredache> tand you have the full command 'update-initramfs -u' ?
[23:14] <zoredache> it probably would be easier if you booted into safe mode....
[23:15] <dj_bushido> will try safe mode. that will let me run startup-manager, right?
[23:15] <zoredache> startup manager?
[23:16] <dj_bushido> nvm. will try the command from safe mode, xubuntu.
[23:16] <dj_bushido> g2g
[23:16] <zoredache> if you are using grub, you could also simply hit 'e' o edit the boot command
[23:16] <zoredache> remove the 'splash'