2009/03/24/#ubuntu-ops.txt

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[08:34] <Myrtti> WTF
[08:34] <Myrtti> Fujisan at -women
[08:34] <jussi01> oh he really is taking the piss... no?
[08:35] <elky> wtf?
[08:35]  * jussi01 wonders if its even acceptable for him to join -women
[08:35] <elky> oh goodie, i'm still opped
[08:36] <Myrtti> WTF?!
[08:36] <elky> yeah
[08:36] <elky> i was trying to find th words
[08:36] <Myrtti> *I* know what he's doing there?
[08:38] <Myrtti> and tonight, on Radio One, top 10 of years gone past
[08:38] <Myrtti> "I don't troll anymore"
[08:38] <Myrtti> "it wasn't me, it was my brutha"
[08:39] <Myrtti> order now, and you'll receive also this top 10 hit record with hits of this year:
[08:39] <Myrtti> "I was a bit drunk, ya know"
[08:39] <elky> are you talking to nightrose?
[08:39] <jussi01> me?
[08:40] <Myrtti> who?
[08:40] <Tm_T> Myrtti: ooh, a new one
[08:43] <jussi01> thankfully he left of his own accord. 
[08:43] <jussi01> However, I thought he was klined?
[08:43] <elky> he does. he'll now try disguise himself
[09:19] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu sebsebseb making nonsense statments to users
[09:19] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[09:20] <Myrtti> oh wow, my screencleaner pig works
[09:34] <elky> jussi01, klines are very very rarely permanant
[11:01] <jussi01> elky: yeah, but it wasnt that long ago...
[11:01] <elky> jussi01, most klines are only a few days
[11:02] <jussi01> ahh
[11:26] <alteregoa> i want ext4 in the kernel now
[11:26] <Myrtti> a-ha
[11:26] <bazhang> alteregoa, this is not a support channel you realize
[11:26] <alteregoa> take on me
[11:27] <alteregoa> hmm strange, it redirectsme to ops lol
[11:27] <alteregoa> haha
[11:27] <alteregoa> bye
[11:27]  * Myrtti raises the alert level to yellow
[11:52] <ikonia> how delightful
[11:52] <ikonia> morning 
[11:59] <Pici> I suppose
[12:00] <ikonia> not delightful ?
[12:00] <Pici> Days have felt very long lately..
[12:00] <ikonia> I hear/feel that too
[13:07] <bazhang> cristi still trolling? 
[13:13] <bazhang> [email protected] [email protected] she looks to be ban evading as well
[13:16] <mneptok> hrm. Moldovan.
[13:16] <bazhang> hah thought that was maryland
[13:18] <mneptok> :)
[13:18] <mneptok> nu.
[13:18] <bazhang> she was repeating 'how can I ruin my system' about 50 times the other day
[13:20] <ikonia> @bansearch cristi
[13:20] <ubottu> No matches found for [email protected] in any channel
[13:22] <mneptok> bahahahahahahha!
[13:22] <ikonia> it's in BT - active ban, she's gone
[13:22] <ikonia> that simple
[13:23] <mneptok> Mold Telecom. Because we're too busy to clean.
[13:23] <ikonia> ha
[13:24] <bazhang> hehe
[14:02] <ikonia> bazhang: what was daemonXP's orginal nick - the one he's ban doding on ?
[14:02] <ikonia> bazhang: you seemed quite up on the whole story 
[14:03] <bazhang> ikonia, daemonfc? the one in +1 now?
[14:03] <ikonia> yes
[14:03] <bazhang> hang on a second
[14:05] <ikonia> AlmightyCthulu 
[14:05] <ikonia> nothing in +1 so he's fine there
[14:05] <bazhang> ikonia, he is not banned in +1 as far as I can see; just -ot (the btracker has all the info: daemondeb, almightycthulhu, and several others)
[14:06] <ikonia> yup, just found it
[14:06] <bazhang> k
[14:06] <ikonia> thanks
[14:07] <LjL> oh you managed to ban cristi. good
[14:07] <ikonia> yup
[14:07] <ikonia> ban dodging 
[14:07] <ikonia> so she went
[14:07] <LjL> ikonia: ban dodging? who was she?
[14:08] <bazhang> saw her quit and leave #kubuntu a bit ago
[14:08] <ikonia> LjL: same person
[14:08] <bazhang> err join and
[14:09] <ikonia> LjL: there was a ban on *!*@host-static-92-115-23-101.moldtelecom.md  and [email protected] 
[14:09] <ikonia> LjL: it was here again 
[14:09] <ikonia> her
[14:09] <LjL> ah yes i see now
[14:09] <ikonia> her
[14:09] <ikonia> ughh
[14:21] <Myrtti> ubot3: info pastebinit
[14:21] <ubot3> Package pastebinit does not exist in intrepid
[14:32] <gnomefreak> yes it does or was that just from PPA
[14:32] <gnomefreak> !info pastebinit
[14:32] <ubottu> pastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10-1 (intrepid), package size 9 kB, installed size 88 kB
[14:32] <Myrtti> gnomefreak: the bot is broken
[14:32] <gnomefreak> Myrtti: there you go :)
[14:32] <gnomefreak> i see that
[14:32] <Myrtti> ubot3: info apt-get
[14:32] <ubot3> Package apt-get does not exist in intrepid
[15:13]  * Myrtti wipes popeys screen clean with the screen wipe pig
[15:13] <popey> \o/ bacon
[15:14] <Myrtti> http://www.aromahome.com/gb/product_enlarged.asp?ProdID=23854
[15:14] <Myrtti> *SQUEAAK* *SQUEAAK* squeaky clean screens
[15:14] <ikonia> popey: out of interest how did you get on with that web radio guy the other day ?
[15:15] <popey> cant remember actually
[15:15] <ikonia> no biggy, just curious
[15:15] <popey> memoryfail
[15:15] <ikonia> left after he started speaking other languages, so was curious to if he came back around
[15:18] <ikonia> I think that may have been my fault, I had to resetart the machine one of the floodbots runs on 
[15:18] <ikonia> restart even
[15:19] <ikonia> sorry meant to say that in -irc my client borked again
[15:19] <ikonia> the screen didn't change from #ubuntu-irc so I thought I was still there
[15:38] <ikonia> LjL: +o #ubuntu
[15:42] <Myrtti> nalioth
[15:42] <Myrtti> ubot3: info aptitude
[15:42] <ubot3> Package aptitude does not exist in intrepid
[15:46] <nalioth> Myrtti: how about a PM?  i am answering in two channels :p
[15:46] <Myrtti> a) ubot3 is not at #ubuntu-irc
[15:46] <Myrtti> b) I don't know how to make it pipe that into pm
[15:47] <nalioth> well, ljl 'splained it pretty well
[15:47] <nalioth> give me a second to look into the guts
[15:47]  * Myrtti grunts and sods off back to work
[15:47] <Pici> Myrtti: info will not be piped or redirected, not even ubottu supports that.
[15:47] <LjL> ubotu did, though
[15:48] <LjL> !info kde > ljl
[15:48] <ubottu> kde (source: meta-kde): the K Desktop Environment official modules. In component universe, is optional. Version 5:48ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[15:48] <Myrtti> Pici: which is why I didn't even try
[15:48] <LjL> none of the current ones do
[15:48] <LjL> ubotwo might, but then ubotwo doesn't have !info at all
[15:48] <Pici> Well.. it doesn't now, nor has it for a while. I'm not sure when or why or how it changed.
[15:48] <Myrtti> I'm clearly not compatible with IRC today
[15:48] <Myrtti> I'm just getting bad tempered and grouchy
[15:55] <nalioth> ubot3: info aptitude
[15:55] <ubot3> aptitude: terminal-based package manager. In component main, is standard. Version 0.4.11.3-1ubuntu3 (intrepid), package size 1460 kB, installed size 8772 kB
[15:55] <nalioth> Myrtti: the li'l varmint was playing hooky
[16:00] <ikonia> bruenig in #ubuntu now
[16:01] <Pici> Yes. hes not banned.
[16:01] <LjL> he's always in #ubuntu
[16:01] <ikonia> Pici: nope - didn't say he was, but he's been acting like a jerk in other ubuntu channel latley 
[16:01] <Pici> ikonia: Which one?
[16:01] <ikonia> #ubuntu-woment 
[16:01] <LjL> that's because he is a jerk
[16:01] <ikonia> and he was in #archlinux-offtopic with his buddies telling them to troll #ubuntu 
[16:02] <LjL> however, he's usually careful not to say bannable stuff in #ubuntu
[16:02] <Pici> ikonia: He always does that
[16:02] <ikonia> yes, concur 
[16:03] <ikonia> I guess the obvious question is why is someone who instigates trouble for the #ubuntu channel allowed to lurk 
[16:05] <LjL> ikonia: what exactly do we have as proof that he instigates trouble?
[16:05] <ikonia> sitting in #archlinux-offtopic telling people to go and troll ?
[16:05] <ikonia> logs from #ubuntu-women making sexual references 
[16:05] <LjL> ikonia: i meant as in logs
[16:05] <ikonia> ooh right
[16:05] <LjL> logs from #ubuntu-women aren't applicable to #ubuntu
[16:06] <ikonia> I did have logs until I had to bounce my server the other day 
[16:06] <LjL> ikonia: also, ask yourself - will banning him stop him from *instigating* other people?
[16:06] <ikonia> jrib is in there 
[16:06] <LjL> or will he do it more?
[16:06] <ikonia> LjL: probably not
[16:06] <LjL> ikonia: jrib's not the only one in there, for that matter
[16:06] <ikonia> LjL: I understand what you're saying
[16:06] <ikonia> LjL: no, I just saw jrib
[16:29] <LjL> !no list is <reply> This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »
[16:29] <ubottu> I'll remember that LjL
[16:33] <Pici> LjL: Are you sure you don't want to have it reply in Italian?
[16:33]  * Myrtti slaps Pici 
[16:33] <LjL> Pici: no i'm not, but i think that would be a racist thing to do.
[16:33] <Myrtti> naughty
[16:34] <nalioth> Myrtti: the ubot3 is back on track
[16:34] <Myrtti> nalioth: noted
[16:34] <ikonia> . !lista is  "theese is nota wareza channel."
[16:34] <Pici> LjL: Er. I didn't mean it to be.... 
[16:34] <ikonia> </jokes>
[16:34] <Myrtti> CIAO A TUTTI!
[16:34] <ikonia> bella bella 
[16:34] <Myrtti> ooh, colours!
[16:34] <LjL> Pici: it's ok, it's just a fact that 95% of those calls are from italians.
[16:34] <Myrtti>  helloooooo
[16:35] <Myrtti> *snigger*
[16:35] <LjL> Pici: but some problems you can't really work around like this anyway
[16:35] <LjL> you have to go to the root
[16:35] <LjL> ask yourself some questions
[16:37] <LjL> like, "why hasn't an H-bomb been dropped on italy yet?"
[16:37] <Myrtti> LjL: cut the italian backbone to the Interhwebs?
[16:37] <LjL> Myrtti: that might work, but then they might use phone modems to dial up abroad
[16:37]  * Myrtti huggles LjL
[16:37] <Myrtti> LjL: I lieks u
[16:37] <LjL> Myrtti: then i must be a weird exception, like afterdeath
[16:37] <LjL> (whois afterdeath)
[16:37] <Myrtti> *snork*
[16:37] <Pici> assert(Myrtti)
[16:39] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Seveas said: !snuxoll =~ s/^/<reply> /
[16:39] <Myrtti> !snuxoll
[16:39] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about snuxoll
[16:39] <Myrtti> !snuxoll-#ubuntu-offtopic
[16:39] <ubottu> snuxoll is will slay you!  http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9678/snuxolldragonslayer.png
[16:40] <ubottu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, dmsuperman said: !snuxoll is <reply> snuxoll shall slay you! http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9678/snuxolldragonslayer.png
[16:40] <Myrtti> ^_____^
[16:40] <LjL> !no snuxoll-#ubuntu-offtopic is <reply> snuxoll will slay you using seveas!   http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9678/snuxolldragonslayer.png
[16:40] <ubottu> I'll remember that LjL
[16:40] <Myrtti> "using Seveas, the unholy sword of +5/-1"
[16:41] <LjL> i was thinking the dragon
[16:41] <Myrtti> ohmgh can't stop giggling
[16:41] <Pici> I thought he was the mushroom butterfly face
[16:41] <LjL> Myrtti: try slapping your face, if that doesn't work, a hammer
[16:42] <Pici> Slapping a hammer?
[16:42] <LjL> Pici: well, no. not what i meant.
[16:56]  * Myrtti rolls her eyes
[17:40] <sebsebseb> hummmm  thought I might end up in here.  well not my fault that ikonia wanted an argument this morning, about me saying that the version of Firefox in Ubuntu  is not offical,  because it's not the Linux version that is directly from Mozilla.  maybe it is offical, but it's still not the version directly from Mozilla.  maybe that's what I should say instead of saying that it's unofficial
[17:40] <ikonia> sebsebseb: thats not why you where banned
[17:40] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you where on thin ice, you have been on thin ice then you started calling people morons and ranting
[17:41] <sebsebseb> ikonia: yeah I reolize it's since  I called people morons that I got kicked,  sorry about that, but people get angry.
[17:41] <ikonia> no - you get angry 
[17:41] <ikonia> and you miss-informed people
[17:41] <ikonia> no-one was at fault other than yourself
[17:41] <ikonia> and this is not the first time you've done it - as I said you where skating on thin ince
[17:42] <ikonia> the fact that you've come in here with a smart mouth attitude saying people wanted arguments futher backs this up
[17:43] <ikonia> sebsebseb: I'd suggest if you want to rejoin the ubuntu channel you have a read through the code of conduct and the guidelines for how to behave in ubuntu and think more about what you say 
[17:43] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok well that's not really true, but you did want to  point it out that  it's  offical?
[17:43] <ikonia> sebsebseb: because it is
[17:43] <ikonia> sebsebseb: telling people ubuntus firefox build is not official is miss-leading
[17:43] <sebsebseb> indeed
[17:43] <ikonia> sebsebseb: telling them the official version is on mozilla.com guides them to download something they don't need
[17:44] <sebsebseb> true
[17:44] <ikonia> thats why I tried to find out what you meant by different - then made it clear it was "official"
[17:44] <ikonia> nothing to do with wanting an agrument - more to do with you talking nonsense and guiding users to potentially problematic solutions
[17:45] <sebsebseb> well  not really to do with it, but I get problems with the Ubuntu version, so I wonder if the version from Mozilla itself would work better
[17:45] <Pici> !worksforme
[17:45] <ubottu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/worksforme/
[17:46] <ikonia> sebsebseb: ok - so you wondering if the mozilla build is better is different than telling people "the ubuntu release is not official, the official release is on mozllia.org"
[17:46] <ikonia> sebsebseb: and when someone queries you about it - saying "it's different" as though it's fact is not the same as "I don't know, I just wonder"
[17:46] <LjL> sebsebseb, you may want to rethink your general attitude about #ubuntu anyway. i've observed several instances of at least dubious behavior from your part
[17:47] <ikonia> sebsebseb: I'm sorry to be as direct with you as I am being, but I'm trying to make it crystal clear to you what the problem is, as you don't seem to be able to respond with out a weak argument for why you're right or think you're right
[17:48] <sebsebseb> ikonia: actsualley  I can see from the chat log what happended, and why I got kicked,  and defintly after I got angry and called people morons,  well if I was the op I would have kicked me as well
[17:48] <ikonia> sebsebseb: the reason you got angry though was because people where confused/questioning what you where saying
[17:49] <ikonia> they where confused / questioning it because you where making it up
[17:49] <sebsebseb> ikonia: yep and coudn't really back it up with proper facts hummmmm
[17:49] <ikonia> you backed it up with no facts
[17:49] <ikonia> as you've just said in here "you wondered"
[17:49] <sebsebseb> I think should have been more clear.  it may be "offical", but it's not the actsaul Linux version from Mozilla
[17:50] <ikonia> yes it is
[17:50] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you're still not listening
[17:50] <ikonia> it's the same source as mozilla's
[17:50] <ikonia> it's just packaged by the distribution
[17:50] <ikonia> mozilla.org's is just packaged in a binary format
[17:50] <sebsebseb> with some very minor changes in that case.  for example  the user agent string mentions the Ubuntu version it runs on.
[17:50] <ikonia> sebsebseb: you're still going on 
[17:50] <ikonia> the user agent is not a change 
[17:51] <Pici> Does it matter? 
[17:51] <LjL> it would be according to mozilla.org
[17:51] <sebsebseb> Pici: no
[17:51] <ikonia> Pici: no it doesn't
[17:51] <LjL> anyway, #ubuntu is #ubuntu, and something is official in #ubuntu if it's official in Ubuntu
[17:51] <sebsebseb> LjL: yeah that makes sense
[17:52] <ikonia> sebsebseb: did it not occur to you to clarify when 3 - 4 people where saying "it's the same product" ?
[17:52] <sebsebseb> ,but indeed saying what I was saying, is confussing to  users
[17:53] <sebsebseb> and  I woudn't normalley recommend people to get the Linux version directly from Mozilla, because Ubuntu's version tends to work.
[17:53] <ikonia> then why do it ?
[17:56] <ikonia> sebsebseb: I've got to go now, I'll remove the ban for you from ubuntu - but please think about what you say to people and how you respond to people when they question a comment - especially if you don't really know if you're comment is true or false
[17:56] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok thank you
[17:58] <ikonia> sebsebseb: the bans removed, but as I and the others have said - this is not the first time, and you've not heeded the warnings before, I'd request and advise you to take this as a serious warning 
[17:58] <sebsebseb> ikonia: warnings hummmmm
[17:58] <ikonia> sebsebseb: yes, warnings, what part is not clear ?
[17:59] <sebsebseb> ikonia: I think maybe I   miss certain warnings or something
[17:59] <ikonia> sebsebseb: people have spoke to you - myself included
[17:59] <ikonia> sebsebseb: and you've been removed from the channel before - I'd take that as a warning
[17:59] <sebsebseb> ikonia: once or twice  some time last year yeah
[17:59] <ikonia> a few times in the past month
[18:00] <sebsebseb> oh
[18:00] <ikonia> yes 
[18:00] <sebsebseb> actasully yeah now I remember at least once.  and I came back, and said did I get kicked
[18:01] <sebsebseb> pretty sure only once from the channel.  so either someone is faking my name.   or  well  I could get this name identifyed again, but people can still use it if they really want to hummmmm
[18:01] <ikonia> I'd request and strongly suggest you take on board the advice given to you today 
[18:01] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no-one is faking it 
[18:01] <ikonia> sebsebseb: I have spoken to you before
[18:01] <LjL> !etiquette
[18:01] <ubottu> Unsure how you should behave on this channel? See (in a private message with the bot, /msg ubottu <keyword>): !AskTheBot, !CoC, !Guidelines, !Offtopic, !Language, !Attitude, !Repeat, !Enter, !Paste, !Caps, !NickSpam, !PM, !English - And most importantly, use common sense...
[18:01] <LjL> in case you haven't reviewed all these before
[18:01] <sebsebseb> ,but the host names will  show  to the ops and everyone else anyway#
[18:01] <LjL> especially the guidelines and CoC of course
[18:01] <ikonia> sebsebseb: no-one is faking it, I asssure you
[18:01] <sebsebseb> ok
[18:01] <ikonia> sebsebseb: rather than arguing it, I'd apprieciate you following the advice given 
[18:02] <LjL> sebsebseb: people can't use your nickname if it's registered and set to enforce
[18:02] <LjL> not for any longer than 30 seconds anyway
[18:02] <sebsebseb> LjL: how to set to enforce, when I get a new password?
[18:02] <LjL> sebsebseb: /ns help set enforce
[18:03] <sebsebseb> ok
[18:03] <sebsebseb> probably no one wants to fake my name, but  there could be
[18:05] <sebsebseb> off topic, but a few people have complained to me at how  #ubuntu  IRC is so strict, and about the rules that have to be followed and so on.   well  I guess it's a good thing, since such a popular channel.  and  we don't want trolls and so on 
[18:06] <ikonia> thanks for showing us another weak argument and how right you are to break the rules 
[18:06] <LjL> people always complain about channel rules one way or the other. they're too strict, they're too loose, they're too specific, they're too generic
[18:06] <ikonia> sebsebseb: did you listen to everything that was said above ?
[18:06] <sebsebseb> ikonia: I didn't mean like that
[18:06] <sebsebseb> ikonia: hence why I also put off topic, and maybe it was a bad time to say that
[18:06] <sebsebseb> LjL: agreed
[18:07] <ikonia> I must leave
[18:07] <ikonia> sebsebseb: please please please, take care in the channel in future 
[18:07] <sebsebseb> ikonia: ok
[18:07] <LjL> (meh, if someone says "qualcuno parla ITALIANO", how can you seriously give them !es)
[18:09] <sebsebseb> last time I was here, I was told to part so soon after  being done with the issue, but now I notice a few people are lurking in here
[18:09] <LjL> sebsebseb: not really
[18:10] <sebsebseb> LjL: well they seem to be away and they are not ops
[18:10] <LjL> sebsebseb: they are ops, or bots.
[18:10] <sebsebseb> SportChick is a bot????
[18:10] <LjL> SportChick is freenode staff.
[18:10] <sebsebseb> oh you get some actsaul freenode staff in here to
[18:10] <sebsebseb> for some reason
[18:10] <sebsebseb> which is?
[18:10] <LjL> ... none of your business?
[18:11] <sebsebseb> heh
[18:11] <sebsebseb> ok
[18:11] <sebsebseb> right well leaving
[18:11] <sebsebseb> this channel
[18:12] <LjL> sebsebseb: anyway, all freenode staff are ops in #ubuntu
[18:12] <sebsebseb> oh
[18:13] <nalioth> freenode staff are ops in lots of channels
[18:13] <sebsebseb> not all  of them though
[18:13] <Pici> They're people too... or at least they say they are.
[18:13] <LjL> Pici: i do find that part dubious
[18:13] <sebsebseb> makes sense to have some freenode ops in  #Ubuntu as well, since so popualr
[18:13] <sebsebseb> popular
[18:17] <nalioth> sebsebseb: don't let us keep you
[18:17] <sebsebseb> nalioth: uh ok
[18:17] <sebsebseb> bye
[18:19] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops sebsebseb
[18:19] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[19:27] <Seeker`> how long until people start complaining google is down I wonder
[19:29] <Pici> works for me.
[19:30] <Seeker`> not for everyone
[19:30] <Seeker`> Page load error here
[19:30] <Seeker`> and for a few other people
[19:30] <ubottu> In ubottu, soussou_ said: it is my first time to use this channel
[19:40]  * Pici tries to resist spamming !patience in #ubuntu
[20:13] <LjL> wha, PFA
[20:27] <rww> In #ubuntu+1's banlist, c-68-57-223-4.hsd1.in.comcast.net = AlmightyCthulhu per http://www.google.com/search?q=c-68-57-223-4.hsd1.in.comcast.net , = DaemonFC per conversation here the other day, who is currently sitting in #ubuntu+1.
[20:27] <ikonia> rww: one moment please. 
[20:30] <ikonia> rww: I was looking into this this morning, so if you could give me a few minutes to just pickup where I left off
[20:30] <rww> ikonia: sure, no problem
[20:32] <ikonia> bazhang: are you awake also 
[20:36] <ikonia> rww: got it, I'll follow it up from here, thank you for providing the missing link
[20:36] <rww> ikonia: Alright, thanks :)
[20:37] <jussi01> ikonia: hi!
[20:37] <ikonia> hello there
[20:38] <Seeker`> o/
[20:46] <ikonia> FYI: I tried to contact daemondeb - trying to get him to be straight as I had a solid interaction with him in +1 today 
[20:46] <ikonia> he admits to being AlmightyCthulhu which we knew, but I wanted him to admit it to try to clear the slate clean
[20:46] <ikonia> he wouldn't admit it until I banned him
[20:47] <ikonia> therefor still lies/timewasting
[20:47] <LjL> ikonia: make that a @mark?
[20:47] <ikonia> just FYI for the record
[20:47] <ikonia> about to do so
[20:48] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu+1 daemondeb AlmightyCthulhu using another nick - gave a chance to try to wipe slate clean, lied about it, then owned up when caught. Still a liar/timewaster as before
[20:48] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[20:53] <LjL> ikonia: see #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:54] <ikonia> better ban mask
[20:54] <ikonia> LjL: I'll update
[20:54] <DaemonFC> ikonia LjL I'd like to know precisely what I've done
[20:54] <LjL> ban evaded.
[20:54] <LjL> twice.
[20:54] <ikonia> DaemonFC: you're ban doding as I explained in the PM
[20:54] <LjL> my kick message said so.
[20:54] <ikonia> DaemonFC: lets not waste any more time
[20:54] <DaemonFC> if the ban expires and I come back
[20:54] <DaemonFC> I did not evade anything
[20:54] <LjL> the ban has not expired.
[20:55] <LjL> and you changed your ident.
[20:55] <LjL> that is called, "ban evasion".
[20:55] <DaemonFC> how is that?
[20:55] <ubottu> rww called the ops in #ubuntu (Hansum: trolling)
[20:55] <DaemonFC> sometimes my IP changes, my ISP has a pool that it uses as a transparent proxy
[20:55] <DaemonFC> you'll ban a lot of this region
[20:55] <LjL> meh, you changed your ident, you aren't fooling anyone
[20:56] <LjL> yes, that's a risk i'm willing to take
[20:56] <LjL> thanks for pointing it out, though
[20:56] <LjL> bye
[20:56] <DaemonFC> well, enjoy your horrible political documents
[20:56] <DaemonFC> and your butt kissing
[20:57] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops daemonfc +1 to a permban from me
[20:57] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
[20:59] <ikonia> I can't be bothered with him, I tried to be straight with him and he just messed me around
[20:59] <ikonia> speak to freenode about multi-ban evading
[21:00] <LjL> ikonia: well, they can k-line comcast as much as i can ban it
[21:00] <LjL> i.e. they can't
[21:00] <ikonia> no of course not, but they may have a better way to deal with it for example
[21:00] <ikonia> only a suggestion
[21:43] <Grant-A> hello
[21:43] <LjL> [22:43:23] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +b sebsebseb!*@*!#ubuntu-ops <- desync
[21:43] <LjL> Grant-A: hi
[21:43] <Grant-A> I believe that about 2 weeks ago yesterday, you guys started evaluating my behavior in #ubuntu-offtopic to see if I was good enough to return to #ubuntuforums
[21:44] <Grant-A> Was I good enough to return?
[21:44] <LjL> hm, most of us here have very little to do with #ubuntuforums
[21:57] <Seeker`> hi Azag how can we help you
[21:58] <LjL> Azag: we don't manage the spanish channels
[21:58] <Azag> mmm
[21:59] <Azag> I was a Ubuntu user more that 1 year, and now when I want to do back the help that Ubuntu give me I can't
[21:59] <Azag> :S
[22:00] <LjL> Azag: take it up with the #ubuntu-es ops. you can find who they are by doing /msg chanserv access #ubuntu-es list
[22:00] <LjL> or just wait patiently in #ubuntu-irc
[22:00] <Azag> LjL: you are a OP lol
[22:00] <Azag> :P
[22:00] <Grant-A> Puedo que #ubuntu-irc tiene la ayuda quiere, usted
[22:00] <LjL> Azag: yes, i am, but i'm not authorized to remove or review any bans.
[22:01] <Azag> (18:00:25) ChanServ: (notice) 5     LjL                    +votriRA [modified ? ago]
[22:01] <Azag> jej
[22:01] <Azag> (a toy op?)
[22:01] <Azag> mejor hablemos español no?
[22:01] <nalioth> Azag: freenode-staff is listed on many ACLs as well, but i doubt they have anything to do with the channels where they're listed
[22:01] <LjL> this channel is english speaking
[22:01] <Azag> ok
[22:02] <Azag> LjL: I don't care very much, but I was with the intension to give back the help that Ubuntu-Es give me
[22:02] <LjL> Azag: and we can't do anything about that here.
[22:04] <Azag> ok
[22:04] <Azag> when the ban finish anyone say me
[22:04] <Azag> :D
[22:04] <LjL> meh
[22:05] <LjL> (besides, i lied, i *am* technically a fully privileged op in -es... but, meh)
[22:05] <Grant-A> ;
[22:05] <Grant-A> ;)
[22:05] <jussi01> !idle | Grant-A
[22:05] <ubottu> Grant-A: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.
[22:06] <LjL> Grant-A: as to your enquiry would you kindly wait for an answer in #ubuntu-irc? this channel isn't really related to #ubuntuforums
[22:06] <Grant-A> ok
[22:06] <Grant-A> sorry
[22:06] <Grant-A> I was just waiting for an op there to come here
[22:06] <LjL> jdong, pricey, above
[22:06] <LjL> the grant-a part, not the azag part
[22:07] <LjL> ah, pricey's still split
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[22:18] <LjL> bazhang can't type his own nickname
[22:18] <LjL> bazhang can't type his own nickname
[22:19] <LjL> ♫ bazhang can't type his own nickname ♬
[22:23] <LjL> PriceChild: grant-a wanted #ubuntuforums ops, i've sent him to -irc
[22:26] <PriceChild> Just sorting out a few things. any chance of a backlog in pastebin if at all interesting?
[22:26] <LjL> PriceChild, it was basically just this
[22:26] <LjL> [22:43:01] <Grant-A> hello
[22:26] <LjL> [22:43:42] <LjL> Grant-A: hi
[22:26] <LjL> [22:43:48] <Grant-A> I believe that about 2 weeks ago yesterday, you guys started evaluating my behavior in #ubuntu-offtopic to see if I was good enough to return to #ubuntuforums
[22:27] <LjL> [22:44:22] <Grant-A> Was I good enough to return?
[22:27] <PriceChild> Erm :/
[22:27] <LjL> besides, i have no idea who told him that stuff about -offtopic
[22:27] <PriceChild> what stuff about -offtopic?
[22:28] <LjL> PriceChild: who told him that we were evaluating his behavior there
[22:28] <PriceChild> Was that discussed in here/
[22:28] <LjL> i dunno
[22:28] <PriceChild> i'm out of hte loop with it
[22:29] <LjL> no recent BT comments about him
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[22:44] <bazhang> heh
[22:44]  * Myrtti yawns
[22:44] <bazhang> its early here LjL gimme a break :)
[22:45] <bazhang> bleh off to work.
[22:49]  * Myrtti loooooves her screenwipe piggie
[23:22] <Seeker`> o/
[23:25] <ikonia> LjL: grant-a makes things up
[23:25] <ikonia> LjL: that's one of the reasons he got banned he reads into conversations what HE wants then states it as fact
[23:26] <LjL> ikonia: is he a friend of emma's?
[23:26] <ikonia> same sort of thing
[23:27] <ikonia> he's referencing offtopic as it was mentioned to him that one of the reasons he would not be unbanned from #ubuntuforums on his last request was his behaviour in #ubuntu-offtopic (he was kicked/warned a few times as I recall) showed he could still not grasp the rules
[23:27] <ikonia> he's now taken that to mean "we are monitoring you as of day $X"
[23:27] <ikonia> and is stating it as fact
[23:27] <ikonia> he normally quotes logs - with miss-leading context/lines missing to backup his fantasy stories
[23:28] <ikonia> eg: jdong you are an arse
[23:28] <ikonia> eg: <jdong> your attitude is not needed
[23:29] <LjL> ikonia: what's factually inaccurate in that statement?
[23:29] <ikonia> <grant-a> jdong is hassleing me about my attitude
[23:29] <ikonia> he forgets to mention that he caused the situation 
[23:29] <ikonia> famous for it he's been in this channel asking for jdong and others to be hauled over the coals for picking on him
[23:29] <ikonia> then quotes half baked logs
[23:30] <ikonia> LjL: I'll let that comment slide over my head
[23:30] <LjL> mhm, ok
[23:31] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-ops Grant-A May want to look at this log for some comments about his general behavior
[23:31] <ubottu> The operation succeeded.
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