2009/03/24/#xubuntu.txt

[01:27] <overrider> hi, id like it so that when i boot up with my vga external 23inch monitor connected to my laptop, it will only use that screen. not dualhead or twinview. this laptop has an intel graphics card. right now, both laptop and external screen are on, with both the correct resolutions, but they mirror each other, even though in the display properties mirroring is unchecked. is there a guide to follow, or a better utility that will nicely setup my xor
[01:30] <overrider>  /quit
[01:31] <overrider> hmm
[02:38] <Dante123> hi all, I installed xubuntu on a sony vaio rx550.  It works except for problem with fan running at full speed and resolution max is 800 x 600.  This same card (older nvidia agp) is capable of 1024 x768 and 1280x1024.  I think I have a fix for fan problem, but how do I set the resolution higher than 800 x 600?  (Must say I prefer 8.04 on this issue than 8.10).  Any ideas?
[02:39] <Dante123> also when I run hardware drivers it says there is no proprietary drivers
[05:07] <moose86> hi guys
[05:07] <moose86> i need some help if anyone has 2 minutes please thx
[05:10] <forces> !anyone
[05:10] <ubottu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:11] <forces> !anyone @ moose86
[05:11] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[05:11] <forces> !anyone | moose86
[05:11] <ubottu> moose86: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[05:11] <moose86> ok i use xubuntu on my laptop and i have no clue how to get a usb wifi stick working withit (this is my second day on xubuntu) just installed ubuntu on my desktop
[05:11] <moose86> so new to this world but like it :)
[05:13] <forces> look for the hardware list in comunity documentation
[05:14] <forces> !hardware
[05:14] <ubottu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection
[05:14] <moose86> same list applies to xubuntu?
[05:16] <moose86> and also it is a USB wifi stick, does this count as a Wireless Network Cards
[05:17] <forces> moose86, ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu is the S.O.
[05:17] <forces> the diference is the DE
[05:18] <forces> xfce, gnome and kde
[05:18] <moose86> ah ok i see thx
[05:18] <moose86> here is what i found
[05:18] <moose86> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/NetgearWG111
[05:19] <moose86> dam
[05:19] <moose86> my laptop cd player is nto working
[05:20] <moose86> hwo else can i get the drivers for it ontot he lappy?
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[06:17] <rocko> When you hear someone yelling at his computer YOU KNOW it's "WINBLOWS" "WINBLOWS"
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[07:44] <xenocit> hello
[07:44] <xenocit> anybody
[07:45] <knome> hello somebody
[07:45] <xenocit> :)
[07:46] <xenocit> 1 question???
[07:46] <knome> !ask | xenocit
[07:46] <ubottu> xenocit: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[07:46] <xenocit> knome
[07:47] <knome> yes?
[07:47] <xenocit> this ubottu is a bot
[07:47] <knome> yes, it is.
[07:47] <xenocit> question for you! :)
[07:48] <xenocit> no i'm kitten
[07:49] <xenocit> for me is a toshiba satellite 1800-204 1.1Ghz 192MB RAM 10GB HDD and .. xubuntu not work fine? Why?
[07:50] <knome> 192 is the minimum required ram.
[07:50] <xenocit> umf..
[07:50] <knome> so... it should work
[07:50] <knome> but not as fast as you could think
[07:50] <xenocit> how i cleaning my hdd?
[07:51] <xenocit> and up my performance?
[07:51] <xenocit> u now windoze HDD Cleaner
[07:51] <knome> ram is cheap now.
[07:51] <xenocit> no money.. :)
[07:52] <knome> there is no reason to "clean" your hdd if you are running xubuntu
[07:52] <xenocit> worl finansial cryze.. :)
[07:52] <knome> have you installed xubuntu already or not?
[07:53] <xenocit> yes
[07:53] <xenocit> i install xubuntu 2 day ago
[07:53] <knome> right. so is there anything speicif you feel is slow?
[07:53] <knome> *specific
[07:53] <xenocit> 8.10
[07:54] <xenocit> firefox running slow...
[07:54] <xenocit> vcl not work.. in movie files
[07:54] <xenocit> :)
[07:54] <knome> there is alternatives for firefox, for example epiphany or midori. you might try them if you don't need those fancy extensions
[07:55] <xenocit> how i uninstall firefoix and install midori
[07:55] <xenocit> :)
[07:55] <knome> are you sure you have all the codes to play the videos? if they video files are relatively small, they should play in vlc.
[07:55] <knome> are you familiar with synaptic?
[07:55] <xenocit> synaptic
[07:57] <knome> ?
[07:59] <xenocit> ?!
[07:59] <knome> xenocit, are you familiar with synaptic?
[07:59] <xenocit> i not understand
[07:59] <knome> xenocit, applications -> system -> synaptic package manager
[07:59] <xenocit> yes
[08:00] <knome> search for midori and mark for installatio
[08:00] <xenocit> ok
[08:00] <xenocit> no midori
[08:02] <knome> xenocit, in synaptic: settings -> repositories -> check "Community maintained ... (universe)"
[08:02] <xenocit> ok
[08:02] <knome> then close and click the reload button and search for midori again
[08:03] <xenocit> ok.. running
[08:14] <xenocit> not again
[08:16] <xenocit> yesss
[08:16] <xenocit> is here
[08:16] <xenocit> midori and midori-mbg
[08:16] <xenocit> midori-dbg
[08:16] <knome> just midori, right click and select mark for installation
[08:17] <knome> and click the apply button
[08:17] <xenocit> orait
[08:17] <xenocit> how to uninstall firefox?
[08:18] <knome> you don't need to uninstall it
[08:18] <xenocit> umf..
[08:19] <xenocit> ok..
[08:19] <knome> but if you want to, you can search for it and right click and select mark for uninstallation
[08:19] <knome> or what ever the text is
[08:19] <xenocit> :) ok
[08:23] <xenocit> ready
[08:24] <xenocit> cool running fast
[08:27] <xenocit> tnx man
[08:30] <knome> xenocit, np.
[09:03] <shled> Hello, all!
[09:04] <shled> anybody running xubuntu on a macbook?
[09:13] <TheSheep> shled: yes
[09:14] <shled> i can't get the keyboard settings right, especially the level 3 chooser
[09:14] <xenocit> mac
[09:16] <shled> TheSheep: can you tell me where to put the keyboard settings, hal or xorg.conf?
[09:16] <TheSheep> /etc/default/console-setup
[09:17] <shled> TheSheep: thank you, can you also tell me the correct XKBMODEL value?
[09:18] <TheSheep> no idea, works for me without changing anything
[09:18] <TheSheep> you can run a menu-based setup
[09:18] <shled> TheSheep: how?
[09:18] <TheSheep> sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[09:19] <shled> TheSheep: sweet, thanks
[09:19] <TheSheep> btw, you might want pommed for supporting the backlight keys
[09:19] <TheSheep> and if it's nvidia, you will need nvidia-bl module
[09:19] <TheSheep> it's described on the ubuntu wiki
[09:20] <TheSheep> !apple
[09:20] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about apple
[09:20] <TheSheep> hmm
[09:20] <shled> TheSheep: Thank you very much!
[09:21] <xenocit> hey
[09:22] <xenocit> 1 more question
[09:22]  * shled will be back after a reboot
[09:22] <xenocit> i like the best video audio player
[09:23] <xenocit> for slow pc
[09:24] <rocko> gxine xenocit
[09:24] <xenocit> how to install
[09:24] <xenocit> ?
[09:26]  * shled is back again
[09:26] <shled> TheSheep: thanks again, works like a charm
[09:27] <rocko> alt+f2 then type xfce4-terminal xenocit
[09:27] <rocko> then do
[09:27] <rocko> sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install gxine
[09:28] <xenocit> k
[09:29] <rocko> let me know if it works or not okay xenocit
[09:29] <xenocit> open in synaptic
[09:29] <xenocit> gxine
[09:29] <rocko> you don't need to use synaptic
[09:29] <rocko> the other way I just showed you is fine
[09:29] <xenocit> all right
[09:30] <rocko> synaptic is just a gui for managing software packages on your computer xenocit
[09:30] <rocko> apt is the command line way
[09:30] <xenocit> sudo apt-get install gxine
[09:30] <xenocit> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[09:30] <xenocit> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:31] <ablomen> xenocit, you have synaptics still open?
[09:31] <rocko> that is because you have another program using the package manager xenocit
[09:31] <xenocit> no
[09:31] <ablomen> or the update manager, or add and remove software
[09:31] <xenocit> in terminal
[09:32] <rocko> quit synaptic or any other software manager or updater like add and remove
[09:32] <rocko> then do it again
[09:32] <xenocit> work
[09:32] <xenocit> :)
[09:33] <xenocit> downloading
[09:34] <xenocit> 1 more question
[09:34] <xenocit> video audio codec like it ffdshow
[09:34] <xenocit> ?
[09:35] <rocko> do
[09:35] <xenocit> i like a audio video codec
[09:36] <knome> !info xubuntu-restricted-extras | xenocit
[09:36] <ubottu> xubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 25 (intrepid), package size 4 kB, installed size 32 kB
[09:36] <rocko> I was just going to do that knome
[09:37] <rocko> xenocit do : sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:37] <knome> rocko, xubuntu-
[09:37] <rocko> why would the x matter ?
[09:38] <knome> because their contents might not (always) be the same
[09:39] <knome> read: there would not be xubuntu- if it wouldn't matter.
[09:39] <xenocit> ??!
[09:40] <knome> xenocit, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:40] <rocko> yes
[09:40] <xenocit> :)
[09:40] <xenocit> ok
[09:40] <rocko> xenocit do , sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:40] <rocko> xenocit also install libdvdcss2
[09:41] <xenocit> okay
[09:41] <xenocit> i do it
[09:42] <knome> libdvdcss2 is not in the repos afaik
[09:42] <rocko> xenocit do , wget -c http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.10/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-1_i386.deb
[09:43] <rocko> then after it is finished downloading install it
[09:43] <knome> or sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread*/install-css.sh
[09:43] <knome> (replace * with version number)
[09:43] <knome> !info libdvdread
[09:43] <ubottu> Package libdvdread does not exist in intrepid
[09:43] <knome> !info libdvdread4
[09:43] <ubottu> Package libdvdread4 does not exist in intrepid
[09:43] <knome> !info libdvdread3
[09:43] <ubottu> libdvdread3 (source: libdvdread): library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.7-11ubuntu2 (intrepid), package size 61 kB, installed size 208 kB
[09:43] <knome> == 3
[09:44] <rocko> install with sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.10-1_i386.deb
[09:44]  * knome leaves ->
[09:45] <xenocit> :)
[09:45] <rocko> does it work xenocit ?
[09:45] <xenocit> boys, make me crazy..
[09:45] <xenocit> waiting
[09:45] <rocko> why did you say that xenocit ?
[09:46] <xenocit> sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread*/install-css.sh
[09:46] <xenocit> sudo ./usr/share/doc/libdvdread*/install-css.sh
[09:46] <rocko> wget -c http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.10/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.10-1_i386.deb ; sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.10-1_i386.deb
[09:46] <xenocit> working
[09:46] <xenocit> .....
[09:47] <rocko> it installs libdvdcss2 ?
[09:47] <xenocit> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[09:47] <xenocit> i'ts ok?
[09:47] <rocko> now you should be able to watch encrypted dvds
[09:48] <xenocit> rocko, i like a watch normal avi wmv asf .. etc..
[09:48] <xenocit> files
[09:48] <xenocit> with subtitles
[09:48] <xenocit> :)
[09:48] <rocko> I see
[09:48] <rocko> well if you ever have to watch a dvd movie
[09:48] <rocko> then you are good
[09:49] <xenocit> this libdvdcss
[09:49] <xenocit> work?
[09:49] <rocko> if it completed without error then it worked
[09:49] <xenocit> good,,
[09:49] <xenocit> :) no errors
[09:50] <xenocit> xmms work in xubuntu?
[09:50] <rocko> are you able to use gxine ?
[09:50] <rocko> gxine is a nice video player
[09:50] <xenocit> no .. this is question..
[09:51] <rocko> yes xmms works
[09:51] <xenocit> :)
[09:51] <rocko> I use mp3blaster though
[09:51] <xenocit> like it winamp?
[09:51] <rocko> I it my most favorite command line audio player
[09:51] <rocko> no it is not gui
[09:51] <rocko> it is a command based audio player
[09:52] <xenocit> :)
[09:52] <xenocit> not for me..
[09:53] <rocko> I see
[09:53] <xenocit> i'm lame..
[09:53] <xenocit> :)
[09:53] <rocko> the audio player that comes with xubuntu is fine to use
[09:54] <rocko> listen is what it is called
[09:54] <TheSheep> audacious is like windamp
[09:54] <TheSheep> winamp
[09:54] <rocko> TheSheep how ar eyou buddy?
[09:55] <TheSheep> rocko: can't complain
[09:55] <rocko> don't you work some tmes two days at your job for IT?
[09:57] <TheSheep> rocko: ---> #xubuntu-offtopic
[09:59] <Fudge> does orca screen reader work as well on xfce as it does on gnome?
[11:39] <Fudge> qlist
[11:39] <Fudge> whoops laughing out loud
[12:07] <xubuntu090985> could someone help me with a stupid question? how do i find out what color depth my system is currently running at?
[12:17] <TheSheep> xrandr should tell you
[12:20] <xubuntu090985> xrandr only seems to be giving me resolution and clock rate, even with --verbose
[12:22] <xubuntu090985> thx anyway :)
[12:28] <gorgut> xubuntu090985, I think it should be 24 by default?
[12:30] <xubuntu090985> gorgut, yeah i might just try some different settings in xorg.conf and see if i can tell the difference!
[12:39] <lukinfore> maybe 'xset q'?
[12:40] <lukinfore> someone on jaunty with radeon r300 here?
[12:40] <lukinfore> need bug approving
[12:46] <xubuntu090985> aha, xset tells me WhitePixel = 65535 which i guess means 16-bit color
[12:47] <xubuntu090985> thx lukinfore
[12:47] <lukinfore> np
[13:44] <Benjamin_cn> hi
[13:44] <Benjamin_cn> is anyone there that could help me? I'm havint trouble installing Xubuntu :/
[13:44] <dr-jackson> hej leute
[13:44] <dr-jackson> hi people
[13:45] <Benjamin_cn> hi dr-jackson
[13:45] <dr-jackson> well yeah I'm having some troubles too, wifi is not detected on my eeepc :/
[13:45] <dr-jackson> could anyone help me?
[13:46] <xenocit> what is this eeepc?
[13:46] <xenocit> :)
[13:47] <dr-jackson> ?
[13:47] <dr-jackson> asus' netbooks...
[13:47] <xenocit> wifi chipset??
[13:49] <dr-jackson> azurewave
[13:49] <dr-jackson> i dunno the rest
[13:49] <dr-jackson> ^^
[13:49] <xenocit> type on terminal lspci
[13:50] <xenocit> 06:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)
[13:50] <xenocit> this is my wifi
[13:51] <dr-jackson> ok
[13:51] <xenocit> lsusb
[13:51] <xenocit> lspcmcia
[13:51] <xenocit> what is ur wifi?
[14:04] <Aquina> I searched the whole net (incl. launchpad), etc for the "/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control"-(file not found)-problem during apt-get install, but couldn't find something useful. Has anyone an idea what this could be or ever experienced the same? I already filed a bug report.
[14:05] <charlie-tca> What is the bug number?
[14:15] <Aquina> Sorry not a bug it's listed as a ubscribed question (Question #30085).
[14:19] <Aquina> Aehm.. I also noticed that /bin/tar has 0 (ZERO) bytes.
[14:20] <Aquina> Well I tested soe things with tar and gz yesterday (a anacron script to store some stuff...). Then the tar operations were not performed anymore and I restarted the system.
[14:20] <charlie-tca> I can't find it
[14:21] <Aquina> mom
[14:21] <Aquina> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-terminal/+question/30085
[14:23] <Slonkie> I need the package "VPN Connection Manager (PPP generic)" from ubuntu, is there any way to get this?
[14:24] <charlie-tca> Looks like a bug to me. Why is it filed as a question? also, mikew said he resolved it and closed the question!
[14:25] <Aquina> Well but the thing isn't really resolved for me. :-) Well indeed the command "/bin/tar --help" does output nothing. Cann I install updates via apt-get without tar?
[14:26] <charlie-tca> I see that. I don't know if it can be done without tar, but there is "create bug report" on the right.
[14:26] <charlie-tca> He seems to have resolved it by reloading, which isn't really a fix
[14:27] <Aquina> yes :-)
[14:38] <basajaun> hi all
[14:39] <charlie-tca> Morning
[14:43] <xenocit> morning?
[14:43] <xenocit> :)
[14:44] <charlie-tca> my time :-)
[14:44] <xenocit> 1 question?
[14:44] <charlie-tca> go ahead
[14:44] <xenocit> my wifi work very slow
[14:45] <xenocit> why?
[14:45] <xenocit> 06:00.0 Network controller: RaLink RT2500 802.11g Cardbus/mini-PCI (rev 01)
[14:45] <charlie-tca> I don't know but someone might?
[14:45] <xenocit> in normal with VPN internet speed is 3000k
[14:46] <xenocit> with wifi is a 25-50
[14:46] <xenocit> ?
[14:46] <xenocit> work with 1Mb/s
[14:57] <Legate> Does somebody know how to set my default editor to something other than Mousepad? Thanks in advance.
[15:00] <TheSheep> Legate: right-click on a file, select properties, select what you want to open it with
[15:00] <_Pete_> export EDITOR=emacs
[15:00] <_Pete_> :)
[15:00] <Legate> TheSheep: That's how I'm doing it right now. I want to open it with SciTE all the time.
[15:01] <Legate> _Pete_: Weird thing is, echo $EDITOR gives nothing as its output. (Well, a newline.)
[15:01] <_Pete_> it's not set initially
[15:01] <TheSheep> Legate: you can also run update-alternatives ...
[15:01] <Legate> _Pete_: Ok, so how does my system determine that is has to open everything with Mousepad?
[15:02] <Legate> TheSheep: With which parameters?
[15:02] <_Pete_> dont really know
[15:02] <_Pete_> I guess the $EDITOR only effects when you work in terminal
[15:03] <TheSheep> it all depends on the aplication taht uses it
[15:03] <TheSheep> if the authors of the application bothered to check $EDITOR, it will work
[15:03] <Legate> When I'm in terminal I just type nano ./<filename>, no problem. But I want to change the behavior for my desktop, thunar, nautilus, etc.
[15:06] <TheSheep> they use the .desktop files from .local/share/applications
[15:06] <TheSheep> but how they choose which one to use -- I have no idea
[15:07] <TheSheep> Legate: aah, see ~/.local/share/defaults.list
[15:08] <xenocit> hey
[15:08] <xenocit> how to manage my wifi speed
[15:08] <Legate> I don't have that file, TheSheep.
[15:09] <Legate> Ah, it's in ~/.local/share/applications/
[15:09] <TheSheep> Legate: chnge the default app for some file in thunar, it will be created then
[15:09] <Legate> But Mousepad is not specified there.
[15:10] <TheSheep> Legate: see also /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[15:10] <Legate> It already has an entry, but that one is for .py files.
[15:10] <TheSheep> Legate: but make any changes in your local file
[15:10] <TheSheep> Legate: because the global one will be overwritten on update
[15:12] <Legate> Mousepad is not specified anywhere in my /usr/share/applications/defaults.list
[15:13] <TheSheep> Legate: so?
[15:13] <TheSheep> Legate: just specify whatever you want t ouse there
[15:15] <Legate> Well, I want to use SciTE for everything that is now done with Mousepad. For that (and out of interest) I want to know where (e.g. which configuration file) Mouspad is specified as the default application.
[15:18] <TheSheep> Legate: I suppose that when the app specified in defaults.list is not available, it just picks the first .desktop file from that directory that supports given mimetype
[15:18] <TheSheep> Legate: why not just uninstall mousepad? :)
[15:18] <Legate> TheSheep: What would it do then, I wonder?
[15:19] <Legate> I like your first suggestion better. :P Is there a way to determine the type of a given file? Some terminal app?
[15:19] <_Pete_> Legate: file <file>
[15:19] <_Pete_> tells you about file type
[15:19] <mprice> it just removes mousepad, well if you use apt-get it does
[15:19] <TheSheep> Legate: file
[15:23] <Legate> Thanks _Pete_, TheSheep. Interestingly, /usr/share/applications/defaults.list is a symlink to /etc/gnome/defaults.list . Now I checked that one and file tells me it's ASCII text. How do I get the corresponding mime type? I suppose it is something like text/ascii, but it does not seem to exist.
[15:25] <Legate> Perhaps it's text/plain?
[15:26] <Legate> Ah, I got it. Setting the -i parameter does the trick. Glorious man pages. :P
[15:27] <Legate> Thank you very much for your help, _Pete_ and TheSheep.
[15:29]  * _Pete_ just build own 2.6.29 kernel and wonders how will it work
[15:46] <Shooree> how do I check which version of xfce am I running?
[15:47] <jarnos> Shooree: About Xce dialog in the Xfce menu tells it
[15:47] <charlie-tca> In Xubuntu, Applications -> About Xfce -> Info
[15:48] <Shooree> oh. I thought it would be a terminal command
[15:48] <Shooree> :)
[15:48] <Shooree> heh. didn't even try to check the menus
[15:49] <Shooree> thanks, jarnos
[15:50] <Slonkie> I need the package "VPN Connection Manager (PPP generic)" from ubuntu, is there any way to get this?
[15:51] <xenocit> hey
[15:51] <xenocit> hellou
[15:52] <xenocit> anybody help for me
[15:52] <Slonkie> Please just ask your question.
[15:53] <xenocit> Slonkie, how i made speedup my wireless connection
[15:55] <mprice> how fast of a connection are you connecting to on your wireless?
[16:04] <xenocit> 54M
[16:08] <Mood> what's the java runtime module called (for firefox). there's a million java entries that come up when i sudo-apt search java
[16:08] <Mood> and i don't believe it's default-jre because it's 102 MB (java on sun's site is only 18MB (i'm concerned about bloatware)
[16:09] <vinnl> Mood, I think you'll want sun-java6-plugin
[16:11] <Mood> vinnl: it's still 100 MB... is there an alternate minimal download?
[16:11] <vinnl> Mood, what was that 18MB file?
[16:12] <Mood> vinnl: on java.com's site, it's the .bin file, self-extracting... i wonder if they don't have all the dependencies though...
[16:12] <Slonkie> hmm my firefox freezes when trying to load a java plugin, anyone experienced this problem ?
[16:13] <Mood> fyi: http://www.java.com/en/download/linux_manual.jsp?locale=en&host=www.java.com:80
[16:13] <vinnl> Mood, that seems to me to be the equivalent of the sun-java6-jre package, as it's just the Runtime Environment
[16:14] <Mood> vinnl: then i wonder what accounts for the large 18 MB vs 100 MB difference
[16:14] <vinnl> "contains the Java virtual machine, runtime class libraries, and
[16:14] <vinnl> Java application launcher that are necessary to run programs written
[16:14] <vinnl> in the Java progamming language."
[16:14] <vinnl> :)
[16:14] <Mood> hmm...
[16:15] <mprice> it says "self-extracting file" so most likely its been compressed hence the difference in size
[16:16] <Mood> by a factor of 10x?
[16:16] <Mood> well, closer to 5x
[16:16] <Mood> i would've thought a binary would be fairly compact to begin with... *shrug*
[16:17] <Mood> ok- here goes nothin... 100 MB install! thanks vinnl/mprice
[16:17] <vinnl> np :)
[16:18] <Slonkie> Mood let me know if default-jre works when your done please
[16:21] <Mood> Slonkie: i'm installing sun-java6-plugin, not default-jre... not sure how they're related
[16:21] <Slonkie> oh okay
[16:22] <Mood> sun-java6-plugin has 3 things: the bin, jre, and plugin
[16:23] <Slonkie> i did try the sun-java6-plugin, that diden't work for me. :/
[16:30] <Slonkie> anyone know a way of updating the now being installed java version?
[16:31] <Slonkie> Java.com says i've only got 6.10 and 6.12 is the latest, but if i run the .bin file from their site nothing is updated.
[16:31] <vinnl> That's because that's not a package made for Ubuntu
[16:32] <Slonkie> When i try to load a java module firefox just freezes, chould that be an bug in 6.10 ?
[16:33] <vinnl> Might be, might be a bug that still exists in 6.12, might be a bug in Firefox, might be in a lot of places
[16:33] <Slonkie> so theres no way to get java working for me
[16:34] <vinnl> There probably is but I don't know it :P
[16:35] <Slonkie> frustrating
[16:35] <vinnl> Yeah I understand
[17:16] <cr4z3d> how can i change the scroll bar color of a theme? i've got xfce-dusk and i really like it but i need to change the scroll bar color because it's almost impossible to see
[17:20] <vinnl> cr4z3d, you'll need to edit the theme itself... Look for the gtkrc file in the theme folder which is probably in /usr/share/themes
[17:21] <cr4z3d> as a second question i've enabled compositor in window manager tweaks but how do i get true transparency on my terminal windows? i've got it working for all inactive windows
[17:21] <cr4z3d> but thank you i'll look there now
[17:22] <vinnl> cr4z3d, in the Terminal preferences, click Appearance and select "Transparent background" in the Background drop-down menu :)
[17:25] <cr4z3d> i have transparent background enabled but it just shows the background
[17:26] <cr4z3d> like my wallpaper not the windows behind it
[17:26] <cr4z3d> it may be important to note i'm using gnome-terminal
[17:26] <vinnl> That shouldn't matter if it's enabled... Have you logged in again after enabling the compositor? (i.e. do you notice t he compositor being enabled in other features?)
[17:27] <cr4z3d> no i didn't log in /out but yes it works on all the other windows
[17:27] <cr4z3d> when they're inactive they go pretty transparent
[17:28] <vinnl> Odd :S
[17:31] <cr4z3d> probably just need to login/out ill try it out a bit later
[17:47] <basajaun> hi all
[17:49] <vinnl> !hi'
[17:49] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi'
[17:49] <vinnl> !hi
[17:49] <ubottu> Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[17:49] <vinnl> :)
[17:50]  * charlie-tca kicks the 'bot for vinnl 
[17:50] <vinnl> Thanks charlie-tca  :P
[17:50] <charlie-tca> ;)
[17:51] <basajaun> ;)
[17:59] <cr4z3d> ah figured it out. just had to close the window and reopen a new one
[18:05] <kaw> why do you prefer xubuntu to ubuntu
[18:05] <charlie-tca> it works
[18:05] <kaw> example?
[18:05] <charlie-tca> I run older computers. Ubuntu is much slower on them than Xubuntu
[18:06] <charlie-tca> My PII 400MHz and PIII 866MHz both work better with Xubuntu than with Ubuntu
[18:07] <kaw> have you tried other varieties of linux?
[18:07] <charlie-tca> I tried several a number of years back.
[18:10] <kaw> what are main diffs between xfce and gnome?
[18:11] <charlie-tca> Xfce uses less resources, it uses xfwm window manager, thunar file manager,
[18:12] <gorgut> and the mouse is cuter than the foot :p
[18:12] <charlie-tca> thank you
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[18:12] <charlie-tca> And I like the colors better than Ubuntu
[18:13] <kaw> can't colors be changed?
[18:13] <charlie-tca> Why?
[18:13] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu has the colors I want already
[18:15] <kaw> trying to decide what to try for professional environment
[18:15] <kaw> currently use RHEL
[18:15] <charlie-tca> New or old hardware?
[18:16] <charlie-tca> gnome makes configuring easy for the beginners. Xfce doesn't
[18:16] <kaw> nothing as old as yours
[18:17] <charlie-tca> I also run a P4, 1.5GHz with Xubuntu
[18:17] <mprice> I run a dual-core laptop with Xubuntu if it makes anybody feel better about running it newer hardware
[18:18] <kaw> does it actually utilize the dual core?
[18:18] <charlie-tca> We are using the same kernel as Ubuntu. The difference is the desktop environment
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[18:20] <kaw> thanks a lot folks appreciate the input and feedback
[18:20] <mprice> sometimes but for the most part know
[18:20] <mprice> *no
[18:29] <Hisham> HEllo Everyone
[18:30] <charlie-tca> !hi | Hisham
[18:30] <ubottu> Hisham: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[18:32] <Hisham> Well i got a problem! My GCC package is broken and i dont have a internet connection to do the repair .
[18:33] <Hisham> I have the GCC deb packages to do with GCC but the problem due to broken GCC i cannot install it
[18:33] <Hisham> Help
[18:33] <Hisham> How to resolve the broken packages?????
[18:34] <frenzy42> i'm all of a sudden getting really weird errors
[18:35] <frenzy42> for example, when using thunderbird, it won't allow me to download mail, and in firefox, it's like it's not keeping records (i can hit the back button)
[18:36] <frenzy42> it seems as if the disk is full, how can i check?
[18:37] <frenzy42> i get this error when trying to delete files Failed to copy "/home/frenzy/Desktop/Employement application.pdf" to "trash:///Employement%20application.pdf": Failed to open "/home/frenzy/.local/share/Trash/info/Employement application.pdf.trashinfo" for writing.
[18:37] <frenzy42> Do you want to skip it?
[18:37] <Hisham> Dear xubuntuers
[18:37] <xenocit> ?
[18:37] <xenocit> what
[18:38] <charlie-tca> frenzy42: open a terminal and type "df"
[18:38] <Hisham> frenzy42	: well i seems like permission problem
[18:38] <charlie-tca> See if anything is at 100% or close to it
[18:38] <frenzy42> that doesn't make since, it was working yesterday
[18:38] <frenzy42> /dev/mapper/endgame-root
[18:38] <frenzy42>                       74089720  70450576         0 100% /
[18:39] <charlie-tca> Have you tried empty the trash
[18:39] <frenzy42> yes
[18:39] <frenzy42> i did
[18:39]  * charlie-tca thinks sometimes I really stupid sounding questions
[18:39] <frenzy42> and now it won't let me put anything in the trash
[18:40] <frenzy42> i'm in the terminal
[18:40] <frenzy42> how do you remove a full directory
[18:40] <xenocit> rm -rf /hone/frenzy/?/path
[18:41] <charlie-tca> I think you have to do it from recovery mode or live cd. You should be able to safely remove things in /var/logs not from today
[18:41] <charlie-tca> also /.trash files or /.Trash files
[18:41] <frenzy42> ok
[18:42] <charlie-tca> Then when you get into the normal mode again, run apt-get clean to remove packages, if you want
[18:43] <frenzy42> ok
[18:43] <Hisham> Dears how to resolve broken packages without connection to internet???
[18:43] <charlie-tca> I don't know that one, Hisham
[18:44] <Hisham> Ok i will post the question on the other Ubuntu channel
[18:44] <Hisham> So please dont catch me re posting :P
[18:45] <frenzy42> so it seems that the problem is that my disk is full, where should i start deleting stuff first?
[18:45] <charlie-tca> Check your /var/log files. Keep todays files and delete the rest that are not folders
[18:46] <frenzy42> how do i know which ones are today's?
[18:47] <charlie-tca> terminal, "ls -l"
[18:48] <charlie-tca> If permissions on the left start drwx or drw- , it is a directory
[18:48] <frenzy42> ok
[18:48] <charlie-tca> If they don't start with d, it is a file
[18:48] <frenzy42> is there a quicker way than doing it one by one?
[18:48] <charlie-tca> Not that I know
[18:49] <charlie-tca> I am sure there is, I just don't know how
[18:49] <frenzy42> ok
[18:55] <xenocit> scuze moa
[18:55] <xenocit> 1 question
[18:56] <charlie-tca> just ask, please
[18:56] <charlie-tca> !question
[18:56] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[18:57] <xenocit> how i made this path autostartup sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
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[18:58] <xenocit> !question how i made this path autostartup sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[18:58] <ubottu> Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[18:59] <charlie-tca> Have patience now. If someone knows, they will answer, but most are doing this while working on other things.
[19:00] <xenocit> ?
[19:00] <charlie-tca> We are all volunteers here. Several people are working their regular jobs and still trying to help others out.
[19:00] <xenocit> :)
[19:01] <charlie-tca> I don't know the answer, so I didn't answer you
[19:01] <xenocit> hehe
[19:01] <xenocit> i now... :) no answer for this..
[19:02] <charlie-tca> I have two installation running, plus one upgrade, while I do this
[19:02] <xenocit> i like the easy way
[19:04] <jarnos> xenocit: I suppose the sudo imposes a problem for the autostart.
[19:04] <xenocit> ...
[19:05] <jarnos> xenocit: Sorry. I don't understand morse code.
[19:05] <xenocit> ;)
[19:05] <xenocit> me too
[19:06] <xenocit> how i made autostart
[19:06] <jarnos> xenocit: Are you using intrepid?
[19:06] <xenocit> i no understand..
[19:06] <xenocit> xubuntu new user
[19:07] <jarnos> xenocit: I suppose you are using the latest release.
[19:07] <xenocit> yes
[19:07] <xenocit> 8.10
[19:07] <jarnos> xenocit: In settings you can find autostarted applications. There you can add the command.
[19:08] <xenocit> with sudo or no?
[19:09] <jarnos> xenocit: do you really need the sudo there?
[19:09] <xenocit> command is sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M
[19:09] <xenocit> i donth no
[19:10] <jarnos> xenocit: I suppose you need it then.
[19:10] <xenocit> i add with sudo
[19:10] <xenocit> :)
[19:11] <jarnos> xenocit: but it won't probably work, if you don't change sudoers file by sudo visudo to run iwconfig a root. An advanced task.
[19:12] <jarnos> ^ as a root
[19:13] <xenocit> ok ok
[19:13] <xenocit> tnx
[19:13] <jarnos> xenocit: sudo visudo launches vi editor by default. Most people don't even know how to exit it.
[19:14] <jarnos> xenocit: you are welcome
[19:14] <jarnos> xenocit: try google visudo
[19:15] <xenocit> http://michaelminn.com/linux/toshiba1800/
[19:15] <mprice> I tried sudo iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M and it didn't get me any errors so it should work fine with just sudo
[19:16] <jarnos> mprice: that was because you had given your password a little earlier.
[19:17] <jarnos> mprice: Ubuntu remembers you for 15 minutes by default (if I remember right).
[19:20] <frenzy42> hello
[19:20] <frenzy42> so i'm at 93% now and everything seems to be working much better
[19:20] <frenzy42> but flash movies still don't want to play, do i need more disk space?
[19:20] <jarnos> mprice: Otherwise it would have asked password. I think it will for autostarted, too.
[19:36] <mprice> so is anybody using midori?
[19:37] <jarnos> mprice: occasio
[19:37] <jarnos> ..nally
[19:38] <mprice> still needs some work buts really not that bad
[19:39] <mprice> I just hope they don't push it too fast as the default browser on xubuntu
[19:39] <jarnos> mprice: flash crashes with it more than with firefox.
[19:40] <mprice> which version are you using?
[19:40] <jarnos> mprice: 0.1.4
[19:42] <mprice> the one from here seems to not crash: https://launchpad.net/~webkit-team/+archive/ppa
[19:46] <jarnos> mprice: They have made it better then. I am using the repository.'
[20:08] <frenzy42> no video will play in xubuntu
[20:08] <frenzy42> this problem happened after i cleared the disk from it being at 100%
[20:08] <mprice> in what application?
[20:08] <Mood> Slonkie: java on ff works for me btw
[20:09] <frenzy42> with youtube or vlc or xfmedia
[20:09] <mprice> what happens with youtube?
[20:10] <frenzy42> it starts to load, starts to play and then freezes up
[20:10] <frenzy42> same thing happens with vlc
[20:10] <mprice> and what about xfmedia?
[20:12] <mprice> by the way what all did you remove?
[20:13] <frenzy42> i removed mostly media files and a few log files from days that were not today
[20:13] <frenzy42> and temp files
[20:14] <mprice> hmm....
[20:16] <frenzy42> yea, i'm thinking about just formatting and getting a 1TB drive, they are only 100 bucks right now
[20:16] <frenzy42> i'v been using an 80gb for too long
[20:17] <Mood> midori > dillo?
[20:18] <mprice> I can't really say I never used dillo, Mood
[20:18] <Mood> dillo's packaged with dsl i believe
[20:19] <mprice> midori is kind of like kazehakase
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[21:08] <Slonkie> Hello, im looking for a package which is included with ubuntu; VPN Connection Manager (PPP generic) - Is it possible to get this in xubuntu?
[21:08] <Slonkie> i need that for the network at my school :(
[21:12] <mprice> do you mean something like openvpn?
[21:12] <Slonkie> I'd like that exact package if possible
[21:12] <mprice> !vpn
[21:12] <ubottu> From more information on vpn please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaming_VPN_Using_PPTPD
[21:12] <Slonkie> but i guess it has to be "PPP Generic"
[21:12] <mprice> !openvpn
[21:12] <ubottu> OpenVPN is a vpn technology in Ubuntu, sudo apt-get install openvpn and then see http://openvpn.net/ and see the documentation "HOWTO" noting you have already installed it. ;-) It rocks!
[21:13] <Slonkie> I don't think that openvpn has the right features
[21:15] <Slonkie> But would it be possible to add the repository to get that package?
[21:20] <mprice> you need to install network-manager-pptp and you can use network-manager to handle the vpn connection
[21:22] <Slonkie> Nope it doesnt work at my school with just that mprice
[21:22] <Slonkie> oh he left.
[21:38] <charlie-tca> Slonkie: what is the server you are trying to connect to? Is is Microsoft VPN server?
[21:39] <charlie-tca> That exact name is not available for Ubuntu/Xubuntu, but it may be available as a different name.
[21:41] <charlie-tca> Have you tried to google VPN Connection Manager (PPP generic) + ubuntu ?
[21:53] <basajaun> hi all
[22:01] <brandonban6> hi basajaun
[22:11] <basajaun> hi brandonban6
[22:31] <mindless_> hi everybody..
[22:32] <charlie-tca> !hi | mindless_
[22:32] <ubottu> mindless_: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[22:32] <mindless_> thanks
[22:32] <mindless_> can i ask =)
[22:32] <charlie-tca> !question
[22:32] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[22:32] <mindless_> :)
[22:32] <mindless_> cool
[22:32] <mindless_> i have some problem with vuze
[22:33] <mindless_> i thought it was about java but i can use openoffice normally
[22:33] <mindless_> vuze just doesnt open at all
[22:34] <mindless_> and same as my sensors-plugin for panel
[22:34] <mindless_> these problems came after i upgraded to 9.04
[22:34] <mindless_> development branch..
[22:34] <mindless_> does anybody have the same and how to get rid of ?
[22:34] <charlie-tca> that isn't really all on one line, mindless_
[22:34] <mindless_> umm
[22:35] <charlie-tca> I don't know "vuze"
[22:35] <mindless_> formerly azureus
[22:35] <teknoprep> anyone have a howto on dual monitor ?
[22:36] <charlie-tca> !xinerama
[22:36] <ubottu> xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead
[22:36] <mindless_> wow cool..
[22:36] <mindless_> that was an answer for me too =)
[22:37] <panus> hello guys
[22:37] <mindless_> hello
[22:37] <charlie-tca> !hi | panus
[22:37] <ubottu> panus: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu!
[22:37] <teknoprep> hey charlie-tca ... is xinerama included with xubuntu 8.10 ?
[22:37] <panus> i really need some help with my system
[22:37] <panus> is broken
[22:37] <panus> :(
[22:37] <charlie-tca> As far as I know, it should be.
[22:37] <charlie-tca> !question | panus
[22:37] <ubottu> panus: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)
[22:38] <teknoprep> charlie-tca, i am using the USB installed version for a thin client with dual head
[22:38] <panus> thanks
[22:38] <charlie-tca> I know nothing about two monitors. Mine are on two computers
[22:38] <charlie-tca> !dualhead
[22:38] <ubottu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[22:38] <charlie-tca> Try the link?
[22:39] <panus> So, I am using xubuntu the latest version on my 3yold Toshiba  satellite laptop. I use dual boot, but for the past 4 months i was using only linux. I finally thought that I had a stable system
[22:40] <panus> but I tried to boot up with a projector attached and when I selected the linux from grub it showed me the ubuntu install screen
[22:40] <panus> then it froze
[22:41] <panus> I shutdown from the power button and now I when I try to boot it will not boot
[22:41] <panus> t linux
[22:41] <charlie-tca> You have a cd in the drive? or was it the GRUB menu?
[22:41] <mindless_> umm i just plug in the projector and ctrl+alt+backspace when i log on again it was working :S
[22:41] <panus> <charlie> no CD in the drive
[22:42] <panus> pleae help me dudes powermasters of linux
[22:42] <panus> i am forced to use windows and i hate every minute
[22:42] <charlie-tca> When you turn it on now, you get nothing?
[22:42] <charlie-tca> Is this a wubi installation?
[22:42] <panus> i get the grub menu, i select the kernel i used to and it starts then freezes at some point
[22:43] <panus> <charlie> no wubi
[22:43] <panus> dueal boot with grub
[22:43] <mindless_> did u try recovery option for your kernel
[22:43] <charlie-tca> Try selecting recovery mode, then fix the installation from the next menu
[22:43] <panus> partitioned  hard drive
[22:43]  * charlie-tca beat by mindless_ 
[22:43] <mindless_> =)
[22:44] <panus> i tried the recovery mode, and it will get me to the command promt. which command starts xubuntu
[22:44] <panus> ??
[22:44] <charlie-tca> exit
[22:45] <panus> if I tpe exit it will load normally?
[22:45] <charlie-tca> worth a try
[22:45] <charlie-tca> You never got a second menu?
[22:46] <panus> you mean a bluish screen menu you get when u install also?
[22:46] <panus> i think i selected continue with normal boot or something
[22:47] <panus> I should select "fix the installation"?
[22:47] <charlie-tca> yes
[22:47] <charlie-tca> if you arrow down, you get more choices
[22:47] <panus> ok i will try it, and i will be back to let you know
[22:48] <charlie-tca> should be one like fix broken system, or fix installation, or something.
[22:48] <charlie-tca> See if it comes up now.
[22:48] <panus> but does anyone know why  I cannot connect a projector and boot normally?
[22:48] <charlie-tca> If it does, next time, pick "fix GRUB"
[22:48] <panus> it sucks, I want to do some presentations and I already have most of my files on my ubuntu partition
[22:49] <panus> anyway i will be back
[22:59] <mindless_> is xfce 4.6 stable ?
[22:59] <marshal> How can I find my network shares on Xubuntu?
[23:00] <mindless_> try samba
[23:00] <charlie-tca> mindless_: yes, it should be stable. If it is in jaunty, it may not be, and if it is in Intrepid it is not.
[23:00] <marshal> should I add a Samba client?
[23:01] <mindless_> and you can also try pyNeighborhood to make mounting easier ;)
[23:05] <mindless_> must i ask about xubuntu here ?
[23:06] <mindless_> or can i ask about wmv problems :?
[23:07] <charlie-tca> Well, you can ask, but you may not get any answers
[23:07] <charlie-tca> And, you might get an answer about where to get help with it.
[23:08] <mindless_> hmm i got it.. ;)
[23:08] <mindless_> how i can watch dmr protected files on xubuntu.. or wich player can i use..
[23:10] <charlie-tca> !drm
[23:10] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about drm
[23:11] <mindless_> see you guyz thanks for all.. ;)
[23:33] <nmiller_> ok, I'm clearly being clueless here, so I appreciate a clue bat
[23:34] <nmiller_> i'm trying to update my application menu; the one for my account is including the system file, which I cannot seem to find
[23:39] <teknomega> where are all the settings that are supposed to be inside of /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:39] <teknomega> i need to manually configure X for a few settings but i see nothing there really
[23:41] <nmiller_> what version, teknomega?
[23:42] <teknomega> xubuntu 8.10
[23:42] <nmiller_> with 8.10, xorg is now using hal for device discovery
[23:42] <nmiller_> so no keyboard/mouse definitions
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[23:44] <teknomega> hm
[23:44] <teknomega> how about custom screen rez ?
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[23:44] <nmiller_> don't know about those
[23:44] <nmiller_> sorry
[23:46] <nmiller_> there's some info in the xubuntu wiki, dunno if it covers that
[23:49] <lukinfore> it is still possible to use custom screen, device and monitor section
[23:50] <lukinfore> or just disable hal
[23:50] <nmiller_> yes, it is, but that might have other ramifications from what I was reading
[23:54] <panus> hej guys I need help. I want my system back
[23:54] <panus> hello room
[23:54] <panus> i was here 15 minutes ago
[23:55] <panus> I used to run xubuntu on my Toshiba laptop
[23:55] <panus> I have a dual boot setting with grub
[23:56] <panus> I connected a projector to my laptop and tried to boot ubuntu and it would not load
[23:57] <panus> then when I removed the projector it  does not load either
[23:57] <panus> a guy here told me to run repair mode and select to fix the packages and it didnt work
[23:58] <panus> can someone help please?
[23:59] <panus> please????