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| [07:09] <ara> good morning all! | |
| [08:36] <ara> morning davmor2 | |
| [08:36] <davmor2> Good Morning ara | |
| [08:44] <ara> is anyone doing the upgrade of edubuntu i386? | |
| [08:46] * ara assumes nobody is | |
| [08:47] * ara takes the edubuntu upgrade test | |
| [08:48] <ara> to be or not to be | |
| [08:56] <davmor2> no edubuntu amd64bit upgrade :( | |
| [08:58] <davmor2> I'll do one then if someone can put it on we're covered | |
| [08:58] * ara steps out to grab a coffee | |
| [09:04] * davmor2 still thinks ara has a coffee shop next door | |
| [09:37] <davmor2> Morning heno | |
| [09:39] <heno> hey davmor2 | |
| [09:41] <heno> so we need a RAID test and edubuntu upgrade | |
| [09:49] <davmor2> heno: ara is doing 32bit I'm doing 64bit which got removed by accident we think | |
| [09:49] <ara> heno: I am doing the edubuntu upgrade | |
| [09:50] <davmor2> Then I'm tagging it onto the 32bit with a note which slangasek oked | |
| [09:50] <heno> ara: great, thanks | |
| [09:50] <davmor2> heno: can't help you out with raid server team maybe? | |
| [09:50] <heno> I did 64 bit edubuntu upgrade yesterday | |
| [09:51] <heno> pinging the server team now | |
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| [09:52] <heno> soren is on it | |
| === davmor3 is now known as davmor2 | |
| [09:53] <davmor2> so that's everything covered then? | |
| [09:55] <heno> it is | |
| [09:55] <heno> we should dig a bit deeper on some of these perhaps though | |
| [09:56] <heno> we've covered existing home, what about driver CD install? | |
| [10:20] <mtholdenss> any testing i can do on my new macbook? | |
| [10:21] <ara> hello mtholdenss | |
| [10:21] <mtholdenss> hey | |
| [10:21] <ara> mtholdenss: you could try to install jaunty on it and run System Testing (under System->Administration) | |
| [10:22] <ara> mtholdenss: it is a good way to provide a hardware database in Launchpad | |
| [10:22] <mtholdenss> thanks i might do it when the beta comes out tonight | |
| [10:22] <ara> mtholdenss: sure, thanks! | |
| [10:23] <mtholdenss> its the 26th of march here in australia night time, i guess it must have some delay | |
| [10:35] <heno> just tested the accessibility boot options - they seem to work | |
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| [11:54] <ara> heno: I didn't know there were accessibility boot options :) | |
| [11:59] <davmor2> Morning fader | |
| [11:59] <fader> davmor2: howdy! | |
| [12:06] <ara> edubuntu i386 upgrade passed | |
| [12:06] <davmor2> Yay full sweep | |
| [12:39] * ara -> lunch | |
| [12:54] <davmor2> cgregan: Morning Dude hope it's nicer over there than here :) | |
| [12:55] <cgregan> morning davmor2......4C and sunny | |
| [12:56] <cgregan> I don't know if that constitutes better. | |
| [12:56] <davmor2> cgregan: feels like 6.3 and raining | |
| [12:56] <davmor2> xivulon: hello | |
| [12:57] <xivulon> hi davmor2 | |
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| [12:57] <davmor2> xivulon: I'll be adding some logs to those bugs this afternoon now beta is tested | |
| [12:57] <xivulon> yes please, do you think that is a show stopper? | |
| [12:58] <xivulon> I tested in VM and I do not have any problem | |
| [13:00] <cgregan> davmor2: sounds like we will be importing your day here tomorrow. | |
| [13:00] <davmor2> xivulon: no you just hit continue and it carries on. It's not major but I think it would be bad for final to still have | |
| [13:00] <davmor2> cgregan: great does that mean we get yours :) | |
| [13:01] <xivulon> davmor2 did you test ISO extraction? As entioned in the bug, the error you reported was due to something else | |
| [13:01] <davmor2> xivulon: I'll add logs from vista and xp too. Also removal isn't playing nice at all. That I think is far more important than the cd is ejected issue :) | |
| [13:01] <davmor2> xivulon: I'll look at that after too for you | |
| [13:02] <xivulon> I am aware of uninstallation issues, have started working on them | |
| [13:03] <xivulon> davmor2 thx | |
| [13:03] <davmor2> xivulon: Infact I'll go through all of my wubi bugs and see which what can be confirmed fixed etc | |
| [13:03] <davmor2> -what | |
| [13:05] <xivulon> great | |
| [13:10] <xivulon> by the way in beta bittorrent will be activated for the first time, and you cannot test that without actually generating a special build (with isolist pointing at isolist.ini) | |
| [13:10] <xivulon> I meant: with isolist pointing at alpha-6 | |
| [13:11] <xivulon> davmor2 do you know how to compile wuibi? | |
| [14:24] <ara> eeejay: hello :-) | |
| [14:24] <eeejay> hey hey ara | |
| [14:24] <eeejay> ara: what is your last.fm username? | |
| [14:25] <ara> eeejay: areta | |
| [14:26] <ara> eeejay: I am reviewing the screenshot changes (and documenting ubuntu-desktop-testing in the wiki) and as I see, now test methods should return a list (message, screenshot), isn't it? | |
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| [14:26] <eeejay> ara: they could return either | |
| [14:26] <ara> eeejay: or none? | |
| [14:27] <eeejay> ara: just a message, or a screenshot too | |
| [14:27] <eeejay> the message is default | |
| [14:27] * ara gets the dx branch to see an example | |
| [14:29] <ara> eeejay: in notify-osd I just see that you raise AssertionErrors when somehting fails | |
| [14:30] <ara> eeejay: but you're not returnnig a message | |
| [14:30] * eeejay checks | |
| [14:30] <eeejay> ara: you mean return a message on success? | |
| [14:31] <ara> no, in general | |
| [14:32] <eeejay> ara: the notify_osd.py script raises 4 AssertionErrors, 2 with screenshots, 2 just with messages | |
| [14:32] <eeejay> ara: as for funtion return values, the function only returns on success :) | |
| [14:33] <eeejay> ara: legal return values are either None, or (message, screenshot) | |
| [14:33] <ara> OK, I understand now | |
| [14:33] <eeejay> ara: so the message/screenshot would be logged to the test result, but it would pass | |
| [14:34] <eeejay> ara: I don't have a use for it yet, but it might be useful for us in the future. | |
| [14:34] <ara> eeejay: sure. thanks! | |
| [14:44] <davmor2> c's | |
| [14:52] <eeejay> ara: I think another nice addition would be optional stdout printing, especially stack traces. | |
| [14:54] <ara> eeejay: yes, it would be useful | |
| [15:11] <davmor2> meh still hasn't seen a release announcement | |
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| [16:16] <thewrath> hey aredg | |
| [16:16] <aredg> hi | |
| [16:17] <davmor2> netsplits-r-us | |
| [16:18] <thewrath> agreed davmor2 | |
| [16:18] <thewrath> what time zone is the ubuntu team in | |
| [16:18] <thewrath> btw | |
| [16:18] <thewrath> i am not sure | |
| [16:18] <davmor2> thewrath: all over | |
| [16:18] <thewrath> oh ok | |
| [16:18] <davmor2> I think it's fair to say they are global :) | |
| [16:18] <thewrath> was not sure if there was an officail time | |
| [16:19] <davmor2> utc | |
| [16:19] <davmor2> which would currently be 4:19 | |
| [16:19] <davmor2> pm | |
| [16:19] <thewrath> k | |
| [16:31] <sbeattie> Hrm, anyone able to get to https://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/? | |
| [16:31] <aredg> no | |
| [16:32] <davmor2> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/ | |
| [16:32] <davmor2> sbeattie: remove the s | |
| [16:33] <sbeattie> davmor2: doh! stupid awesomebar. | |
| [16:33] <davmor2> :D never mind | |
| [16:35] <aredg> wow, i can't believe transmission is still the default bitorrent client | |
| [16:35] <sbeattie> davmor2: looking at the freesoftware only install test, I thought there was some package checks that we used to make sure it wasn't "contaminated" | |
| [16:35] <davmor2> aredg: why it works :) | |
| [16:36] <aredg> davmor2, there are much better clients that should be chosen imo | |
| [16:37] * eeejay likes transmission | |
| [16:37] * eeejay hides | |
| [16:37] <aredg> :O | |
| [16:38] <eeejay> it's simple, has upnp, even a web interface.. | |
| [16:38] <aredg> deluge has every transmission has, but better :p | |
| [16:38] <davmor2> aredg: transmission and deluge are the two most complete gnome supported clients gnome also chose transmission which may of been the deciding factor | |
| [16:38] <heno> is the server install supposed to launch aptitude? | |
| [16:39] <heno> it happens just before package installation starts | |
| [16:39] <sbeattie> heno: I think only if you select "manually select packages" | |
| [16:39] <heno> I might have ticked that without noticing, ok | |
| [16:40] <heno> I just selected everything on the list | |
| [16:40] * sbeattie starts on an alt free software only install to see what actually gets installed. | |
| [16:40] <davmor2> heno: then yes you hit it | |
| [16:40] <sbeattie> heno: ah, yep, last one on the list is manually select. | |
| [16:40] <heno> doing the RAID1 test case in vbox - seems to support multiple disks nicely now :) | |
| [16:41] <sbeattie> heno: yeah, I use vbox for that; though I can only get a total of 3 disks; I'd really like 4 for an accurate raid10 test | |
| [16:42] <heno> sbeattie: is it limited to 3 by vbox itself? | |
| [16:42] <sbeattie> Last time I tried it was. | |
| [16:42] * sbeattie tries again | |
| [16:43] <heno> yeah, confirmed it too | |
| [16:43] <heno> If you enable the SATA controller it works | |
| [16:43] <sbeattie> right, because it's emulating a primary/secondary ide controller and the cdrom drive is always the secondary master. | |
| [16:44] <sbeattie> Oooh. | |
| [16:44] <sbeattie> Is that in w/jaunty's virtualbox? | |
| [16:46] <heno> sbeattie: 8.10 version from the vbox site running on Jaunty | |
| [16:46] <heno> so not the fully Free software version | |
| [16:46] <sbeattie> heno: ah. support for usb, also, then. Hrm. | |
| [16:47] <heno> yes | |
| [17:04] <arthax0r> hello | |
| [17:05] * arthax0r is downloading jaunty | |
| [17:06] <arthax0r> how is the upgrade from intrepid? | |
| [17:06] <heno> arthax0r: you can install from the CD and preserve /home | |
| [17:06] <charlie-tca> The one I just ran worked fine | |
| [17:07] <heno> http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/DesktopExistingHome | |
| [17:07] <heno> sbeattie: what package should I file a bug against when a raid setup fails to bood from a degraded array? | |
| [17:08] <sbeattie> heno: mdadm | |
| [17:08] <heno> sbeattie: thanks | |
| [17:09] <heno> ooh - a ton of untriaged bugs there | |
| [17:09] <arthax0r> i wasn't too concerned about /home.. | |
| [17:09] * arthax0r does backup after all | |
| [17:09] <arthax0r> :> | |
| [17:10] <charlie-tca> heno: when you run cat /proc/mdstat, did the array come back after reconnecting the drives? | |
| [17:10] <arthax0r> thx for the link heno | |
| [17:11] <heno> let me try | |
| [17:11] <charlie-tca> I found I could boot to either drive, but the disconnected one never returned / to the array again | |
| [17:13] <heno> erm, now it works when I boot with just one drive - last time it timed out and dropped me to busybox | |
| [17:13] * charlie-tca thought it was just my inexperience with RAID | |
| [17:13] <heno> damned Heisenbugs | |
| [17:13] <arthax0r> is this also the place for kubuntu testing? | |
| [17:14] <arthax0r> i think i am going to try them both | |
| [17:14] <arthax0r> personally, i use xmonad or dwm-gtx, but i want to check out kdenlive | |
| [17:15] <arthax0r> currently i use a couple intrepid desktops, and a couple hardy servers | |
| [17:17] <heno> arthax0r: kubuntu testing is very welcome :) | |
| [17:18] <arthax0r> :) | |
| [17:18] <heno> charlie-tca: it's rebuilding the raid now | |
| [17:18] <charlie-tca> so it is me... | |
| [17:19] <heno> charlie-tca: did it never try to rebuild it? | |
| [17:19] <arthax0r> well thanks for the info, i'll report on my progress later :> | |
| [17:19] <charlie-tca> It said it was, but it never did come back. | |
| [17:19] <heno> here is says 'recovery = X%' | |
| [17:19] <heno> ok, I'll let it complete and see | |
| [17:19] <charlie-tca> I ran it 3-4 installations, and I can remove either hard drive the first time. | |
| [17:20] <charlie-tca> Yeah, I had that, about 6 restarts worth. It just never put it back in the array | |
| [17:23] <heno> charlie-tca: how long did you let it sit before restarting - it will need some uptime to rebuild | |
| [17:24] <charlie-tca> anywhere from 5 minutes to 1 hour | |
| [17:25] <charlie-tca> got pretty frustrated | |
| [17:25] <sbeattie> if it had been doing it, you should have seen some progress in /proc/mdstat | |
| [17:26] <sbeattie> and/or via sudo mdadm --detail /dev/mdX | |
| [17:27] <sbeattie> heno: did you have to mdadm --add the device back to the array, or did it come back in automatically? | |
| [17:27] <charlie-tca> What I got was [2/1] [U_] under the active raid line | |
| [17:28] <heno> sbeattie: I came back when I rebooted | |
| [17:28] <heno> or rather, it came back at [2/1] and then worked its way to [2/2] | |
| [17:29] <sbeattie> heno: right. | |
| [17:29] <sbeattie> charlie-tca: I wonder if manually adding it back via 'mdadm /dev/mdX --add /dev/sdXX' would have worked. | |
| [17:30] <charlie-tca> I don't know, but I can do it again today and find out. Like I said, it might just be my knowledge is lacking | |
| [17:33] <charlie-tca> I am adding server to my testing, just because of this, though. I will learn yet | |
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| [18:48] <charlie-tca> sbeattie: another installation of server using two hard drives on hardware. The array rebuilt like it should. | |
| [18:49] <sbeattie> hunh | |
| [18:50] <charlie-tca> I blame it on me. Never filed a bug, anyway | |
| [19:48] <diver> ppl, when 9.04 beta will release? | |
| [19:51] <slangasek> this evening | |
| [19:51] <sbeattie> for values of evening that may or may not be appropriate in your timezone. | |
| [19:51] <diver> o thanks ) | |
| [20:18] <stgraber> slangasek: bug info balloon are back (report too) | |
| [20:18] <slangasek> w00t | |
| [20:18] <slangasek> "report"? | |
| [20:19] <stgraber> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/report | |
| [20:19] <slangasek> oh, I've never seen that before :) | |
| [20:19] <stgraber> really ? I thought you used that for Intrepid ... | |
| [20:19] <slangasek> not that I recall | |
| [20:20] <stgraber> it gives you an overview of all bugs that have been reported for a milestone and some info from LP | |
| [20:20] <slangasek> yes, that's very useful :) | |
| [20:21] <slangasek> better than my approach of "scrape the build/all/all page, feed all the bug urls to firefox with xargs" :-) | |
| [20:24] <stgraber> slangasek: hmm, indeed :) | |
| [20:25] <stgraber> heno: bug balloon and report are back on the iso tracker | |
| [20:25] <heno> stgraber: whohoo! | |
| [21:07] <jtisme> who is the release manager for jaunty | |
| [21:07] <heno> jtisme: slangasek is | |
| [21:08] <jtisme> heno does he have an email i can send a short msg to | |
| [21:08] <jtisme> about kde regression testing | |
| [21:08] <heno> jtisme: he's in this chan | |
| [21:09] <heno> jtisme: can I help? I'm responsible for testing | |
| [21:10] <jtisme> heno yes is there a regression test suite for kde that is run prior to each release? | |
| [21:10] <jtisme> alpha release that is | |
| [21:10] <heno> jtisme: just manual test cases run in connection with ISO testing | |
| [21:11] <heno> see http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com for cases | |
| [21:11] <jtisme> then a bug report made for any problems, correct? | |
| [21:11] <heno> indeed | |
| [21:12] <jtisme> I am wondering if we could possibly form a group that would perform basic regression tests on kde and somehow have direct access to the developers to fix problems before relases | |
| [21:12] <jtisme> relases=releases | |
| [21:14] <heno> jtisme: that would be welcome. If you are hooked into the QA team and file good bugs then you will have access | |
| [21:14] <heno> I suggest you propose it on the QA mailing list and bring the idea to our next QA meeting | |
| [21:15] <jtisme> hmm i was part of the QA team about 3 releases ago, do you have my info around jtholmes is the handle | |
| [21:15] <heno> we can also run a KDE testing day (generally Mondays) | |
| [21:15] <heno> ok, cool | |
| [21:15] <jtisme> where is the QA mailing list and am i still part of the testing team or do i need to reregister? | |
| [21:18] <heno> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-qa/ and https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-testing | |
| [21:18] <jtisme> ok thanks | |
| [21:42] <jtisme> heno where are the qa mail messages from march 22 to present they are not in the archives | |
| [21:44] <heno> jtisme: are you sure anyone posted since then? that's 4 days ago and we've been release-testing :) | |
| [21:45] <heno> 22nd is the last message in my local mail folder too | |
| [21:46] <jtisme> heno where is the QA meeting info | |
| [21:47] <heno> jtisme: http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/42 | |
| [21:47] <jtisme> thanks | |
| [21:48] <heno> agendas and times are here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings | |
| [21:48] <heno> every Wednesday at 17.00 UTC basically | |
| [21:50] <jtisme> thanks heno | |
| [21:50] <heno> np :) | |
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