| [00:10] <karelm> Hi, I'm running ubuntu 8.10 but installed xubuntu-desktop. Totem starts up fast but keeps loading for about 30 seconds before I can use it (loading a movie? another 20 seconds) When using a gnome session, everything is fine. On terminal I get a warning about "failed to create dbus proxy for org.gnome.SettingsDaemon: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name"... any ideas? | |
| [02:41] <Carlis> The pc says me is connected but I don`t see the content of the pages. How do i fix this issue ? | |
| [02:43] <Carlis> HI | |
| [02:43] <Carlis> who can help me = | |
| [02:43] <Carlis> ? | |
| [02:44] <Carlis> Hi | |
| [02:44] <Carlis> I need help | |
| [02:46] <rallEy4> perhaps you might define what "the pages" are? and then tell what you are connected to? | |
| [02:47] <Carlis> google | |
| [02:48] <Carlis> I am connected to the wireless | |
| [02:48] <Carlis> The driver of the wireless is: rtl8187 | |
| [02:49] <Carlis> is rtl8187 a generic driver ? | |
| [02:49] <Carlis> rallEy4 ? | |
| [02:50] <rallEy4> Are you on a different machine now? | |
| [02:50] <Carlis> yes | |
| [02:52] <rallEy4> open a terminal window and type ifconfig and see if that lists anything good? | |
| [02:53] <Carlis> is there any command to go to the terminal ? | |
| [02:53] <rallEy4> Yea, should be under Applications >> Terminal | |
| [02:54] <Carlis> I mean command | |
| [02:54] <Carlis> I press alt +f2 = ?? What command do i write there ? | |
| [02:55] <rallEy4> xfce4-terminal | |
| [02:56] <Carlis> ok | |
| [02:57] <rallEy4> now in the terminal, type ifconfig | |
| [02:57] <rallEy4> list all of the words that appear on the left-most side of the output | |
| [02:58] <Carlis> eth0 | |
| [02:58] <Carlis> lo | |
| [02:58] <Carlis> wlan0 | |
| [02:59] <Carlis> wmaster0-00 | |
| [03:00] <Carlis> what else do i have to say u rallEy4 ? | |
| [03:02] <rallEy4> actually, I'm not sure at this point. | |
| [03:03] <rallEy4> do each of those listings have an inet address listed? | |
| [03:03] <rallEy4> should be the second line down for each block | |
| [03:04] <Carlis> I have these: | |
| [03:05] <Carlis> 192.168.1.5 | |
| [03:06] <rallEy4> which one of the interfaces is that listed beside? | |
| [03:11] <Carlis> I had issue in connectio to the internet | |
| [03:11] <Carlis> sorry | |
| [03:11] <Carlis> What do i do ralley4 ? | |
| [03:12] <stephen_> rallEy4> which one of the interfaces is that listed beside? | |
| [03:13] <Carlis> can u help me stephen ?? | |
| [04:21] <cjones> whats a good program to use for network back up s | |
| [04:31] <sml1226> holy crap 1300 people in #ubuntu, that's why I get no help there! | |
| [04:32] <sml1226> Is there an advantage to running 64-bit version of a distro? | |
| [04:32] <knome> yes. | |
| [04:33] <sml1226> Other than 4+ GB ram? | |
| [04:33] <knome> some. at least there is no big drawbacks so if you specifically don't need 32-bit, you should use 64-bit | |
| [04:34] <sml1226> Can I run 32-bit and 64-bit on same hard drive? | |
| [04:34] <sml1226> I mean same partition | |
| [04:34] <knome> side by side at the same time no, but you can have 32-bit subsystems. | |
| [04:35] <knome> umh... it's not really about partitions. | |
| [04:35] <sml1226> Not at same time just without having to boot again | |
| [04:35] <knome> you can have a 32-bit subsystem | |
| [04:35] <sml1226> Oh that was about partitions | |
| [04:36] <sml1226> How do you do that? Just need to know on new machine | |
| [04:36] <knome> so basically you install a 64-bit system and then kind of inside it, you have a 32-bit subsystem | |
| [04:36] <knome> what's the reason you need 32-bit subsystem? | |
| [04:36] <sml1226> Ok so install 32-bit version inside 64-bit? | |
| [04:37] <Poopface> Anyone have a solution to this error: "Could not find kernal image: Linux" when trying to boot from usb?? | |
| [04:37] <sml1226> Just in case it doesn't work on 64, not needed just to have in case | |
| [04:37] <knome> !chroot | |
| [04:37] <ubottu> chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot) | |
| [04:37] <knome> i'd say you should not install a subsystem until you need it. | |
| [04:38] <sml1226> Ok looks cool, just 64 then. Didn't really know. | |
| [04:38] <knome> yep. i've used 32-bit subsystem for flash in the days where no real flash plugin existed for 64-bit and i can tell, it wasn't particularly enjoyable. | |
| [04:39] <sml1226> Going to run Ubuntu and Xubuntu both on the new machine then. Or maybe Ubuntu and Kubuntu then. | |
| [04:40] <knome> my personal opinion is also that you need only onw desktop environment :) | |
| [04:40] <sml1226> Just to have different feels, I like customizing my UI a LOT. This will give me a lot of freedom there. | |
| [04:40] <sml1226> :) | |
| [04:41] <knome> hmmh. i like it once i've customised it. | |
| [04:41] <knome> sounds like you don't know what you want ;) | |
| [04:41] <sml1226> I mean I like to stick with what I have but I take forever finding it! :) | |
| [04:42] <sml1226> Like my Ubuntu now but also like KDE just too slow to run it now. | |
| [04:42] <knome> hah | |
| [04:42] <knome> ;) | |
| [04:42] <sml1226> well with effects enabled :) NO COMPIZ is annoying!!! | |
| [04:43] <knome> ... | |
| [04:43] <sml1226> I miss it :'( | |
| [04:43] <sml1226> Just to mess with really | |
| [04:43] <knome> i like xubuntu with no compiz or compositor enabled. | |
| [04:44] <sml1226> I can do a good looking Xubu without it but KDE kinda sucks w/o it | |
| [04:44] <sml1226> :P | |
| [04:44] <knome> there's as many tastes as there is users | |
| [04:44] <sml1226> 300 people in Kubuntu room and nobody is talking!!! | |
| [04:45] <knome> people are maybe sleeping or at work. | |
| [04:45] <sml1226> I asked a question 15 mins ago and not a word since | |
| [04:45] <sml1226> joining and leaving is all thats going on | |
| [04:46] <knome> well in most irc clients you can ignore joins and parts | |
| [04:47] <knome> (and quits) | |
| [04:47] <sml1226> What you using now? I'm in pidgin | |
| [04:47] <knome> irssi | |
| [04:48] <knome> over ssh running in screen ;) | |
| [04:48] <sml1226> hmmm never heard of it :) | |
| [04:48] <knome> it's a totally boring text-mode client ;) | |
| [04:49] <sml1226> know what window manager Kubuntu uses? just b/c no answer there. | |
| [04:49] <knome> kubuntu uses kde. | |
| [04:50] <sml1226> I know but Ubuntu uses Metacity and it has compositor, Xubu uses Xfwm4, KDE uses ??? | |
| [04:50] <sml1226> I need to know if ??? has a built in Compositor | |
| [04:51] <knome> kwin i suppose. | |
| [04:51] <sml1226> Ahh ok, yeah KDE is the desktop environment not the window manager. | |
| [04:52] <knome> yes, but the window manager is tightly tied in actually all of the desktop environments. | |
| [04:54] <sml1226> yeah but didn't know the wm, knew the de so thanks, need to try something now so see ya | |
| [05:59] <binskipy2u_> is xfce that much more "stabler", faster, then gnome, kde on a say a...triple core processor with 4 gigs ram, 64bit? | |
| [06:00] <knome> you might not feel the fastness, but it uses less resources, so you are left with more free. | |
| [06:01] <knome> what comes in stability issues, i'd say that in my opinion xfce is the most stable dependless on the hardware specification. | |
| [06:01] <binskipy2u_> i dont care about eye candy or compiz that crap | |
| [06:01] <binskipy2u_> just like a fast computer | |
| [06:01] <knome> i'm running on a quite similar hw that you listed | |
| [06:02] <knome> yeah, i don't use compiz (or even the xfce compositor) either. | |
| [06:02] <binskipy2u_> kde 4 is quirky and just does some crazy stuff every so often | |
| [06:02] <binskipy2u_> and gnome is easy, comfy yet sometimes annoying | |
| [06:02] <binskipy2u_> can you install the ubuntu/xubuntu restriced to get alll multimedia etc like kubuntu/xubuntu? | |
| [06:03] <knome> what do you mean? the xubuntu-restricted-extras? | |
| [06:03] <binskipy2u_> to play all multimedia | |
| [06:04] <binskipy2u_> music, dvd, video, etc | |
| [06:04] <knome> !multimedia | |
| [06:04] <ubottu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats | |
| [06:43] <Laibsch> Hi, I'm new to XFCE. Had it on my laptop for years and jumped in there for a few minutes, but was always put off by something. I think I'll try it out a bit more seriously this time. | |
| [06:43] <Laibsch> Coming from Gnome, I still don't know how to achieve a few things that I'm used to doing the "Gnome way". I hope you don't mind a question or two. | |
| [06:43] <Slonkie> Just ask the questions please. | |
| [06:43] <Slonkie> !questions | |
| [06:43] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | |
| [06:43] <Laibsch> I will as they come around, don't worry ;-) | |
| [06:44] <Laibsch> I thought a small introduction was in order | |
| [06:44] <Laibsch> OK, first question | |
| [06:44] <Laibsch> Keyboard shortcuts | |
| [06:44] <Laibsch> IIRC, XFCE is very configurable with Shortcuts which I really like | |
| [06:45] <Laibsch> One shortcut I can't find is the keyboard shortcut for switching workspaces | |
| [06:45] <Laibsch> Where is that set? | |
| [06:48] <Laibsch> Ah, Ctrl+F1, not Ctrl+1 | |
| [07:04] <larsemil> is there a "core" package for xubuntu that doesnt pull all the progs i might not want, like abiword | |
| [07:06] <TheSheep> larsemil: what do you want it to pull? | |
| [07:07] <TheSheep> larsemil: there is xfce4 package | |
| [07:07] <larsemil> ah thats the name of course | |
| [07:07] <larsemil> thanks | |
| [07:08] <larsemil> that was more like it | |
| [07:08] <larsemil> :) | |
| [07:19] <larsemil> should i use gdm or xdm or is there someone else? | |
| [07:21] <TheSheep> xubuntu uses gdm | |
| [07:21] <TheSheep> there is a bunch of more and less feature-complete ones | |
| [07:21] <TheSheep> personally I just start x directly and lock the screen right after that | |
| [07:22] <TheSheep> ok, I used to when I wans't too lazy to configure that, now I use gdm with autologin | |
| [07:22] <larsemil> haha | |
| [07:22] <larsemil> i know that. :) | |
| [07:22] <larsemil> gdm pulls hell lot of deps again, will look into it. trying to save space on my eee | |
| [07:32] <Laibsch> does xfce have the equivalent of Alt+F2 in Gnome to launch an application right from the keyboad without any mouse action? | |
| [07:32] <TheSheep> it has | |
| [07:32] <larsemil> what program to configure wlans? | |
| [07:32] <TheSheep> network manager | |
| [07:32] <TheSheep> same as in gnome | |
| [07:33] <larsemil> ok thanks | |
| [07:33] <larsemil> 125mb for a network manager? :O | |
| [07:34] <TheSheep> you can also use some alternate ones | |
| [07:34] <TheSheep> my guess is that it shars a lot fo deps with gdm | |
| [07:34] <Laibsch> TheSheep: will you also tell me the equivalent? | |
| [07:34] <TheSheep> shares* | |
| [07:35] <TheSheep> wicd for example | |
| [07:35] <larsemil> Laibsch: its the same | |
| [07:39] <Laibsch> larsemil: really? | |
| [07:40] <Laibsch> Interesting, I must be missing something | |
| [07:40] <Laibsch> XFCE does nothing here for Alt+F2 | |
| [08:08] <Laibsch> The strange thing is that apparently this shortcut is defined in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml | |
| [08:08] <Laibsch> but this one and others have no effect (same thing for xfce4-screenshoter) | |
| [08:08] <Laibsch> Why are those settings ignored? | |
| [08:11] <Laibsch> LP bug 366828 | |
| [08:15] <Laibsch> I ran xfce4-settings-helper once and now things work as they should. Yahoo! | |
| [08:20] <gharz> guys, why does my xubuntu doesn't automatically mount my ntfs and my linux partitions? ubuntu does. any idea? | |
| [08:24] <om26er> hello' | |
| [08:24] <om26er> i have a problem | |
| [08:25] <om26er> when i bring a cursor on panel it changes | |
| [08:25] <om26er> it is very annoying | |
| [08:25] <om26er> is there any way to turn it off | |
| [08:27] <ablomen> om26er, defign "changes", what does it do exactly? | |
| [08:27] <om26er> when cursor goes there the icons become bigger | |
| [08:28] <ablomen> hmm, are you using something like avant? anything else then the default panels? | |
| [08:28] <om26er> no | |
| [08:30] <om26er> i think | |
| [10:43] <MikeChelen> could you take a screenshot? | |
| [10:47] <kubuntu__> que me ofrece xubuntu que no tenga ubuntu | |
| [10:48] <SiDi> !es | |
| [10:48] <ubottu> En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. | |
| [10:48] <SiDi> La respuesta es XFCE | |
| [10:52] <Slonkie> Lol | |
| [10:59] <larsemil> any tips for a nice terminal emulator? | |
| [11:00] <larsemil> and any tips for removing the "make a little ²" when pressing alt + 2 :) | |
| [11:08] <gharz> guys, how do i install open office in xubuntu 9.10? | |
| [11:11] <Slonkie> sudo apt-get install openoffice.org | |
| [11:11] <Slonkie> ? | |
| [11:11] <Slonkie> It's 3.0.1 in the repos.. do you need 3.1? | |
| [11:17] <gharz> Slonkie: the latest if possible | |
| [11:19] <gharz> Slonkie: why is it that i can't open other partitions in xubuntu? what i mean is it isn't mounted automatically. and one last thing, i'm on a windows network, i can't find the option to open a windows machine in the network ... how do i fix this? | |
| [11:20] <Slonkie> The partitations problem, you'll have to add them to fstab to get them automaticly mounted. Help can be found at: | |
| [11:20] <Slonkie> !fstab | |
| [11:20] <ubottu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | |
| [11:20] <Slonkie> Try using gigolo to access your windows machines/drives i'm guessing it is? | |
| [11:39] <palang> hi guys, two questions. First: how do I manually add stuff to the application menu? Second, the mic works fine (headset), but is very very quite - what do I tweak to turn it up? | |
| [11:40] <Slonkie> To add an application, make an .desktop file in /home/user/.local/share/Applications/ | |
| [11:41] <palang> ahhhhh! thanks | |
| [11:41] <Slonkie> You can just look and copy what needed in one of the other desktop files :) | |
| [11:44] <palang> Slonkie, the file in .local/share/applications is called defaults.list - and it's blank! | |
| [11:45] <palang> ... | |
| [11:45] <Slonkie> okay | |
| [11:45] <Slonkie> look in one of the .desktop files in /usr/share/applications/ | |
| [11:45] <palang> ok. | |
| [11:48] <palang> ok, i got one. so I just kind of copy this, then use it as a template i guess? thanks for your time man | |
| [11:48] <marcel> how to display conkey as root window in xfce? | |
| [13:04] <rameshwo> i have ubuntu 8.10 how to upgrade to Xubuntu 9.04 ( i have got xubuntu 9.04) cd.. | |
| [13:04] <SiDi> Ubuntu or Xubuntu 8.01 ? | |
| [13:04] <rameshwo> or can i install xfce packages from the 9.04 iso disk ??? | |
| [13:04] <rameshwo> ubuntu 8.10 | |
| [13:04] <SiDi> ok, then you'll first have to install xubuntu-desktop | |
| [13:04] <rameshwo> SiDi: ubuntu 8.10 | |
| [13:04] <SiDi> its a virtual package containing all the xubuntu data | |
| [13:05] <SiDi> then, remove ubuntu-desktop, the one for the ubuntu (gnome) data and settings | |
| [13:05] <SiDi> and then, upgrade through the update-manager 's upgrade button, and you'll be in Xubuntu 9.04 | |
| [13:05] <rameshwo> SiDi: can i install xubuntu-dekstop from the Xubuntu iso of 9.04 | |
| [13:05] <rameshwo> SiDi: upgrading won't loose data ?? | |
| [13:06] <rameshwo> SiDi: can i install xubuntu-dekstop in ubuntu 8.10 from the Xubuntu iso of 9.04 | |
| [13:06] <SiDi> upgrading wont make you lose data | |
| [13:06] <SiDi> at worse you will lose some hand-installed apps that you can reinstall afterwards | |
| [13:06] <SiDi> boot on your ubuntu 8.10 please | |
| [13:07] <rameshwo> SiDi: that's fine with me.. not much hand-installed apps | |
| [13:07] <SiDi> you cant do it from a liveCD | |
| [13:07] <rameshwo> SiDi: oo... | |
| [13:08] <rameshwo> i actually wanted to change becasuse of old hardware 256 mb ram , 735 mhz processor...... i hope that xubuntu works well ??? ubuntu 8.10 was slow ?? | |
| [13:09] <SiDi> xubuntu will be faster, yes ;) | |
| [13:09] <SiDi> what graphics card do you have ? | |
| [13:09] <SiDi> if you have an intel i recommand you to stay on 8.10, some cards lack proper drivers for 9.04 (intel's fault :p) | |
| [13:10] <rameshwo> SiDi: graphics card are also old.... not sure what type is it.. but intel processor. | |
| [13:11] <SiDi> if its a nvidia you'll be ok for sure. if its an ATi probably too. if its a SiS or Intel i'd recommand you to find users with the same card and ask them how it works before upgrading | |
| [13:11] <rameshwo> SiDi; ok.. | |
| [13:12] <rameshwo> i have some downloaded apps for ubuntu 8.10 .. will it work on xubuntu also or i need to download another compatible one ??different apps for diff. desktops ???? | |
| [13:12] <SiDi> any ubuntu application works in xubuntu ;) | |
| [13:14] <rameshwo> SiDi : ok.. but not k.. like kamarok , kmail ? will it also work on xfce ? | |
| [13:14] <SiDi> So, in resume : 1) sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop | 2) sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop | 3) sudo apt-get upgrade | 4) sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | |
| [13:14] <SiDi> And then you'll be in Xubuntu 9.04 | |
| [13:14] <SiDi> rameshwo: they'll work too | |
| [13:14] <SiDi> but i recommand you to try Exaile | Thunderbird instead :) | |
| [13:15] <SiDi> you can also load the gnome / kde services in xfce, there's an option for that in Xubuntu's settings | |
| [13:15] <rameshwo> SiDi: ooo ok. i just gave example .. | |
| [13:17] <rameshwo> SiDi: actually my interent is poor. so takes time to download.. so i preferred installing from cd.. but i now know that it doesn't work..... | |
| [13:17] <SiDi> it works with the alternate, actually ;) | |
| [13:17] <SiDi> but not with the normal one | |
| [13:18] <rameshwo> SiDi: yes... that's the prob... normal mean live ? | |
| [13:18] <SiDi> rameshwo: at worse, if your home isnt with your system partition, you can just install Xubuntu 9.04 on your Ubuntu 8.10 partition | |
| [13:18] <SiDi> and then reinstall your apps | |
| [13:18] <SiDi> yeh, normal is the liveCD | |
| [13:19] <rameshwo> yes the / and all other in single partition... you mean that. ? | |
| [13:19] <SiDi> yeh | |
| [13:19] <SiDi> if you dont have a separate /home then you'll have to go through the painful process of upgrading | |
| [13:20] <gharz> guys, how do i connect to a windows network? in ubuntu it has nautilus where i can type the address network:/// to search for any windows windows... in xubuntu how do i do this? | |
| [13:20] <rameshwo> ok i'm ready to have new upgrade deleting previous all datas... ubuntu 8.10 works slow in my computer.... | |
| [13:20] <SiDi> !gigolo | |
| [13:20] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gigolo | |
| [13:20] <gharz> !network | |
| [13:20] <ubottu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs | |
| [13:20] <SiDi> gharz: use the application named "gigolo" | |
| [13:20] <SiDi> rameshwo: make sure you saved all your documents before then ^^ | |
| [13:21] <rameshwo> SiDi: you seem to use Xubuntu ? why you prefer it over gnome n kde ? | |
| [13:21] <rameshwo> SiDi: ok sure... | |
| [13:21] <SiDi> rameshwo: faster | |
| [13:21] <SiDi> and i like xfwm | |
| [13:21] <SiDi> i find xfce more flexible and efficient than gnome | |
| [13:21] <rameshwo> SiDi: xfwm is window manager for xfce ? | |
| [13:21] <rameshwo> SiDi: oo.. | |
| [13:21] <SiDi> but well, i got 4GB of ram and a 8400GM so i _could_ run gnome :) | |
| [13:22] <rameshwo> SiDi: 8400 GM ?? graphics card? | |
| [13:22] <gharz> SiDi: in gigolo, there's a field that says Location (URI)... | |
| [13:23] <SiDi> gharz: i never really used it. I suppose you put the IP there | |
| [13:23] <gharz> this is weird. i'm not familiar with xfce. i'm used to gnome . :( | |
| [13:23] <SiDi> or maybe smb://the_ip/ | |
| [13:23] <SiDi> rameshwo: yes | |
| [13:23] <gharz> SiDi: how about mounting the other partitions? xubuntu doesn't automatically mount my ntfs and ubuntu partitions... | |
| [13:24] <SiDi> gharz: it does here. (well, i dont have any ntfs partition though) | |
| [13:24] <SiDi> !fstab | |
| [13:24] <ubottu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions | |
| [13:24] <SiDi> You can tweak your /etc/fstab file to tell it to explicitely mount some partitions | |
| [13:26] <SiDi> anything else before i leave you, guys ? | |
| [13:27] <rameshwo> SiDi: i hope the commands are the same.. for all xubuntu,ubuntu,kubuntu... | |
| [13:28] <rameshwo> SiDi : apt-get... and all others ?? | |
| [13:28] <SiDi> rameshwo: they are | |
| [13:28] <SiDi> x/k/ubuntu are the same OS, rameshwo | |
| [13:28] <SiDi> we just have different packages and config files by default | |
| [13:29] <rameshwo> SiDi: ok... | |
| [13:30] <rameshwo> SiDi: but there are less guys in xubuntu room compared to ubuntu n kubuntu.. | |
| [13:30] <SiDi> yeh | |
| [13:30] <gharz> man, think i'm going back to my ubuntu :( | |
| [13:30] <SiDi> its because we have less users :) | |
| [13:30] <gharz> i'm really not use to xfce | |
| [13:30] <SiDi> gharz: why not use nautilus for network tasks if thats what blocks you ? | |
| [13:30] <gharz> missing my nautilus | |
| [13:31] <gharz> ahh... u mean i can install nautilus here right? | |
| [13:31] <rameshwo> SiDi: if i run xubuntu i hope my knowledge won't be any less than the one runnign ubuntu(gnome) ????? | |
| [13:32] <gharz> SiDi: can i run compiz-fusion in xubuntu as well? | |
| [13:32] <SiDi> gharz: yes but it'll replace the xfce WM by compizs one | |
| [13:32] <gharz> SiDi: ahhh | |
| [13:32] <gharz> ok | |
| [13:32] <gharz> thanks. | |
| [13:32] <SiDi> rameshwo: you'll have to learn the differences, but it should take you a few days to get use to it | |
| [13:33] <rameshwo> SiDi: ok..but the heart of linux is CLI and it's the same . so no problem i guess... | |
| [13:33] <SiDi> yeh | |
| [13:33] <SiDi> just a different GUi ;) | |
| [13:34] <vidd> rameshwo, what did you switch from? | |
| [13:34] <rameshwo> vidd: you mean ? switch to xubuntu or ubuntu ? | |
| [13:34] <vidd> so from ubuntu to xubuntu | |
| [13:35] <gharz> SiDi: there's gigolo on my system and it shows my partitions... but whenever i open/click the partition i'm getting this error Connecting to "Partition1" failed. You are not supposed to show G_IO_ERROR_FAILED_HANDLED in the UI. any idea why? | |
| [13:36] <rameshwo> vidd: yes but it's been only 2-3 months i ran ubuntu 8.10 it was slow for my hardware . i learned that xfce was also there for lower hardwaes. so thinking to switch to xubuntu .... | |
| [13:36] <SiDi> gharz: no, but people in #xfce may know | |
| [13:36] <gharz> ok | |
| [13:36] <gharz> thanks | |
| [13:37] <rameshwo> vidd: but right now from wi**** xp i'm hoping to get it deleted within few months afteri learn a bit more linux.. | |
| [13:37] <vidd> gharz, try using that app as a superuser | |
| [13:37] <gharz> vidd: i already did that... when i use superuser the partitions are not shown. | |
| [13:37] <rameshwo> vidd: what makes u stick with xubuntu ? | |
| [13:38] <gharz> only cdrom0 is there | |
| [13:38] <vidd> as soon as my work goes virtual, i can delete all M$ from all the machinews except the gaming rig | |
| [13:38] <vidd> gharz, no ideas then =\ | |
| [13:39] <vidd> rameshwo, i might not be with the project much longer....i run achient hardware....and xubuntu is getting to big | |
| [13:39] <gharz> vidd: are you using xubuntu in connecting to other windows network? coz i'm currently in a windows environtment but the problem is i can't seem to find the way of opening a windoze shared folder. in thunar, i can't type the address. | |
| [13:40] <vidd> gharz, you want to use samba for that | |
| [13:40] <rameshwo> vidd: same here...ancient hardware | |
| [13:40] <vidd> but if you have the address for the sared drive...do this: | |
| [13:40] <gharz> vidd: u mean i still have to install samba on xubuntu? | |
| [13:40] <vidd> well...yeah | |
| [13:41] <vidd> you need firefox installed to look at web pages....right? | |
| [13:41] <vidd> but anyway.... | |
| [13:41] <vidd> if you have the network address for a network share.... | |
| [13:41] <gharz> vidd: let us say for example the network is MYNETWORK (server 2003) and some computers also attached to the network. in MYNETWORK i have 1 shared folder there named Shared$... the question now is how do i access this? | |
| [13:42] <vidd> like \\machine\drive | |
| [13:42] <vidd> gharz, ^^ yes? no? | |
| [13:42] <gharz> vidd: in firefox? | |
| [13:42] <gharz> i can't seem to enter the address in thunar | |
| [13:43] <vidd> gharz, no...in M$ "map network drive" | |
| [13:43] <gharz> vidd: the file is already shared. | |
| [13:43] <rameshwo> gharz; you meant the shared folder in every windoz networked computer ? | |
| [13:45] <gharz> rameshwo: no... in MYNETWORK server there is 1 shared folder named Shared$... my question now is how do i access this? in thunar there is no Network option like in Nautilus. | |
| [13:45] <vidd> gharz, do you use "windows network" or do you map network drive on the windows machines? | |
| [13:45] <gharz> vidd: i don't map network drive | |
| [13:45] <vidd> then use samba | |
| [13:46] <vidd> gharz, there is no network option because samba is nopt installed by default | |
| [13:46] <gharz> vidd: see in nautilus, i'll just type the address network:///MYNETWORK and it will show me all the computers connected to the MYNETWORK and i'll just click the name of the computer which i want to connect and open files | |
| [13:46] <gharz> ok | |
| [13:46] <gharz> vidd: so i'll just run sudo apt-get install samba ? | |
| [13:47] <vidd> gharz, i would assume | |
| [13:47] * vidd does not use samba | |
| [13:47] <gharz> ok | |
| [13:47] <gharz> thanks! | |
| [13:47] * vidd maps network drives | |
| [13:48] <vidd> gharz, do you know the name of the machine on your network that has this shared folder? | |
| [13:49] <gharz> vidd: our domain name is, ie. NETWOWK. i want to connect to COMPUTER1 which is having a shared folder named shared$. | |
| [13:49] <gharz> vidd: that's what i want to accomplish. | |
| [13:49] <gharz> and i can't find a solution to this | |
| [13:49] <vidd> so this is what you can do without using samba..... | |
| [13:50] <vidd> create a directory to alias that folder.... | |
| [13:50] <gharz> vidd: OK. | |
| [13:50] <vidd> i.e. /media/windows_share | |
| [13:50] <vidd> then you mount it. | |
| [13:50] <vidd> is the files systen ntfs or fat? | |
| [13:51] <gharz> ntfs | |
| [13:51] <gharz> vidd: here's my question... what would be the path of the w$ shared folder then? | |
| [13:51] <gharz> \\machine\shared$ | |
| [13:52] <gharz> i think it requires authentication to open this. | |
| [13:52] <vidd> sudo mount.cifs //machine/shared$ /media/windows_share -o user='[windows username]' | |
| [13:53] <vidd> sorry....had to dig thru my history to find the command | |
| [13:53] * vidd has already added the shared drive to fstab | |
| [13:54] <gharz> vidd: mount.cifs? | |
| [13:54] <vidd> yes... | |
| [13:54] <vidd> i assume you want to be able to read and write to this drive? | |
| [13:56] <gharz> vidd: yes | |
| [13:56] <vidd> then you want to mount.cifs and not just mount | |
| [13:56] <vidd> just mount is read only | |
| [13:58] <vidd> and if you do not need to authenticate to access that share, then you can probably lose -o user= option | |
| [13:58] * vidd sees no reason to have samba if the drives are not going to be dynamic | |
| [14:00] <vidd> gharz, actually, mount.cifs is for mounting network drives...se the man: mount.cifs - mount using the Common Internet File System (CIFS) | |
| [14:00] <gharz> ok | |
| [14:00] <gharz> thanks! | |
| [14:01] <vidd> its a part of the samba suite | |
| [14:01] <gharz> i'll check this xubuntu first. before going back to ubuntu if i find it difficult | |
| [14:01] <gharz> :( | |
| [14:01] <gharz> pero ok lang | |
| [14:01] <gharz> may pera naman ako :)) | |
| [14:02] <gharz> ooopppsss... sorry | |
| [14:02] <gharz> thanks, vidd!!!! | |
| [14:02] <vidd> gharz, if you dont know the machine's hostname, you can substitue the ip | |
| [14:02] <gharz> the ip is 192.168.10.2 | |
| [14:03] <gharz> and 10.5 | |
| [14:03] <gharz> these machines both have shared folders where ii access regularly | |
| [14:04] <vidd> like mount.cifs //192.168.10.2/folder /media/first_share_folder_name | |
| [14:04] <vidd> and mount.cifs //192.168.10.5/folder /media/second_share_folder_name | |
| === Pici` is now known as Pici | |
| [14:05] <vidd> and use the -o user= option if you need to log into these drives | |
| [14:06] * vidd hopes that makes sense | |
| [14:22] <ocs_> Hi. when I try to access to a remote host through ssh with -X option I obtain this error: /usr/bin/X11/xauth: error in locking authority file /home/ocs/.Xauthority . any suggestion ? | |
| [14:36] <SiDi> it comes from the machine you try to connect to. Looks like you dont have the right to open an X session through remote login. (but i may be wrong) | |
| [14:37] <ocs_> all solved. for some xfce bug .Xautorithy was messed up. I deleted it and rebooted and all works | |
| [14:39] <KAIN> hello everyone | |
| [14:40] <KAIN> i need some help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and rhe router | |
| [14:40] <KAIN> i need some help please ,i'm running squid2.7Stable3 on ubuntu server 9.04 with cisco vxr7200, i need to setup wccp v2 between squid box and the router | |
| [14:43] <Slonkie> ubuntu server? | |
| [14:43] <Slonkie> This is xubuntu help channel... | |
| [17:29] <Araneidae> How can I configure keyboard autorepeat? | |
| [17:30] <Araneidae> Sorry, stupid question, looking in wrong place! | |
| [17:30] <vidd> Araneidae, like how much time you need to hold down a key to type the same character over and over? | |
| [17:30] <Araneidae> Yes, that sort of thing. I keep forgetting that the Settings menu isn't where I expect it | |
| [17:30] <vidd> so you found it then? | |
| [17:31] <Araneidae> yes, kind of obvious really. I was looking under Applications/System, but the Settings menu was actually staring me in the face... | |
| [17:32] <vidd> =] | |
| [18:31] <xubu> Hey guys...I really need some help! I can't upgrade my 7.10 to 8.04. I get errors from the sources.list file. | |
| [18:33] <knome> xubu, yes, 7.10 is eol | |
| [18:33] <knome> !gutsy | xubu | |
| [18:33] <ubottu> xubu: Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details. | |
| [18:33] <xubu> I know is eol...but even the old repositories can't be accessed? | |
| [18:37] <knome> xubu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades | |
| [18:49] <SliMM> hello | |
| [18:50] <SliMM> how can I pair a bluetooth device with my pc? | |
| [18:50] <knome> !bluetooth | |
| [18:50] <ubottu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | |
| [18:52] <SliMM> that's ubuntu help, which means the bluetooth applet | |
| [18:52] <SliMM> the gnome thing | |
| [18:52] <SliMM> which I don't have and don | |
| [18:52] <SliMM> don't want to | |
| [18:52] <SliMM> damn enter | |
| [22:03] <S0210> Is there a "not fast" user switching available in 9.04? | |
| [22:04] <Trabble> what do you mean? | |
| [22:05] <S0210> In 8.04 I had a user switching on the shutdown panel... is there a way to put it back there? | |
| [22:06] <S0210> (Right now I have the "fast user switch" on the panel but I have problems with it...) | |
| [22:07] <S0210> I mean the shutdown popup dialog with buttons like logout/hibernate/shutown etc. | |
| [22:07] <Trabble> ok... | |
| [22:07] <Trabble> what problem do you have? | |
| [22:08] <Trabble> ahhhh. i see.. | |
| [22:08] <S0210> Apart from design problems if I use the fast user switching than in the other user profile a my hotkeys do not work as expected | |
| [22:09] <Trabble> ... | |
| [22:09] <Trabble> no idea...sorry | |
| [22:10] <S0210> :-) | |
| [22:10] <Trabble> same with "ALT" + S | |
| [22:10] <Trabble> wait | |
| [22:10] <Trabble> "ALT" + "S-ABF" + "K" | |
| [22:10] <Trabble> ? | |
| [22:11] <S0210> what's s-abf? | |
| [22:11] <Trabble> a key | |
| [22:12] <Trabble> print | |
| [22:12] <S0210> alt - print - k? | |
| [22:15] <S0210> it's not really what I thought :-] | |
| [22:15] <Trabble> same problem? | |
| [22:15] <S0210> alt - print - k logs me out (competely) | |
| [22:16] <S0210> (completely) | |
| [22:16] <Trabble> :) | |
| [22:16] <Trabble> ok... | |
| [22:17] <Trabble> you just want to change.... | |
| [22:18] <Trabble> mhh... | |
| [22:18] <S0210> yes... leaving the session of my wife untouched but having my hotkeys in the other account as well as my old saved session | |
| [22:19] <S0210> technologically speaking :-) | |
| [22:59] <infomomo> Hey guys, the only diff. between xubuntu and ubuntu is the desktop environment ? | |
| [22:59] <infomomo> all the rest, repos, apps, etc... is the same? | |
| [23:08] <infomomo> :d | |
| [23:15] <zoredache> infomomo: pretty much | |
| [23:17] <infomomo> zoredache: thanks | |