| [00:00] <lex79> eheh :> | |
| [00:01] <a|wen> shtylman: yes! you need to test your own dog-food (and as you are working on the installer, then...) :P | |
| [00:03] * a|wen was very impressed by the installer at alpha 3 stage | |
| [00:04] <Quintasan> yay for borked ext4 in jaunty once again | |
| [00:05] <a|wen> Quintasan: why not just upgrade to karmic | |
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| [00:05] <Quintasan> a|wen: fglrx | |
| [00:06] <Quintasan> a|wen: radeon is too slow, radeonhd has no support for Direct rendering and fglrx fails to build kernel module | |
| [00:06] <a|wen> Quintasan: which gfx-card? | |
| [00:06] <Quintasan> a|wen: Radeon HD3450 | |
| [00:08] <shtylman> a|wen: but I have run through that installer like a bazillion times :) ... doing it for real just seems...too surreal ... | |
| [00:10] <a|wen> he :) | |
| [00:14] <a|wen> Quintasan: just stick to old hardware like me | |
| [00:14] <Quintasan> a|wen: I had Radeon 9550 but it was a pain in the ass :( | |
| [00:15] <a|wen> radeon 9600 on my desktop ... X300 mobile on the laptop | |
| [00:18] <a|wen> Quintasan: style-crystal uploaded | |
| [00:18] <Quintasan> thanks | |
| [00:19] <a|wen> won't get to the other one this WE | |
| [00:45] <Riddell> Quintasan: you pinged? | |
| [00:46] <Quintasan> Riddell: yeah, could you check update to aurorae? I uploaded it to REVU since a|wen mentioned it's a pain in the ass to get files from LP bugs | |
| [00:48] <Riddell> Quintasan: URL? | |
| [00:49] <Quintasan> Riddell: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kwin-style-aurorae | |
| [00:59] <Riddell> get hot new stuff for aurorae doesn't work, the get new stuff window is always below the kwin configure window | |
| [01:00] <Quintasan> Riddell: can you give me a screenshot of this? | |
| [01:09] <Riddell> http://people.canonical.com/~jriddell/tmp/aurorae.png | |
| [01:09] <Riddell> Quintasan: package uploaded | |
| [01:09] <Quintasan> thanks | |
| [01:12] <shtylman> Riddell: want me to go ahead and put the keyboard display into the installer to let people try it out? | |
| [01:12] <shtylman> well before the next alpha... | |
| [01:14] <Riddell> shtylman: ooh you have it? | |
| [01:14] <Riddell> shtylman: why the doubts? | |
| [01:14] <shtylman> yea...ive had it for a while... well..there are some concerns that because it only displays a standard keyboard layout | |
| [01:14] <shtylman> people might be confused | |
| [01:15] <shtylman> if they have non standard layout of keys | |
| [01:15] <shtylman> (like evand gave the example that he has an extra key between his 'z' key and shift | |
| [01:15] <shtylman> I personally think that people are aware enough of what a *standard* keyboard layout is that seeing the keyboard will actually be of greater help | |
| [01:16] <shtylman> and better feedback | |
| [01:16] <shtylman> the problem is that I can only change the text displayed on the keys when they change their keyboard layout/variant... I cannot, as it would be impossible basically to detect, rearrange the keys to match their actual setup | |
| [01:19] <shtylman> Riddell: lp:~shtylman/+junk/keyboard ... and run keys.py to the see first working example | |
| [01:20] <shtylman> I got the basic idea down for what I wanted...just need to see how to handle languages it can't find and whatnot... | |
| [01:21] <Riddell> so that's what an Afghani keyboard looks like | |
| [01:21] <Riddell> where does it get the data from? | |
| [01:22] <shtylman> asks the system for the unicode character for a particular keycode | |
| [01:22] <shtylman> lines 19 and 20 of keys.py | |
| [01:22] <Riddell> looks good, go for it I say | |
| [01:23] <shtylman> it basically gets a C header file from that command and parses it for the key info | |
| [01:23] <shtylman> not the prettiest solution..but it was what I had | |
| [01:23] <shtylman> alrighty...I will start migrating that in then | |
| [01:26] <shtylman> the real trick I want to figure out is showing the shifted keys without the user doing anything | |
| [01:26] <shtylman> that would basically just finalize it for me :) | |
| [01:37] <Gon> hi, I have a problem compiling konversation. Source code depends of kdepim headers, but kdepim-dev depends of kde-4.2.4 libraries, and I have kde 4.3 :s | |
| [01:42] <Gon> any suggestions? | |
| [01:42] <Gon> I'm in Jaunty | |
| [01:47] <Riddell> Gon: it complains at me about kdepim-dev: Depends: libqtphonon-dev (>= 4.5) but it is not installable | |
| [01:47] <Riddell> is that what you get? | |
| [02:13] <Gon> kdepim-runtime: Entra en conflicto: akonadi-kde (< 4:4.2.95) pero se va a instalar 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1. | |
| [02:13] <Gon> kdepimlibs5-dev: Depende: kdepimlibs5 (= 4:4.2.2-0ubuntu1) pero está instalado 4:4.3.0-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa1. | |
| [02:13] <Gon> an many more... | |
| [02:14] <Gon> I'm going to paste in a pastebin | |
| [02:14] <Riddell> Gon: apt-cache policy kdepimlibs5-dev | |
| [02:15] <Gon> http://gon.pastebin.com/m31b5b38 | |
| [02:15] <Gon> http://gon.pastebin.com/m5ceb52da | |
| [02:17] <Riddell> Gon: you don't have 4.3 available to install | |
| [02:17] <Riddell> you must have disabled it | |
| [02:18] <Gon> ? | |
| [02:18] <Gon> Sysinfo for 'acer': Linux 2.6.31-999-generic running KDE 4.3.00 (KDE 4.3.0), CPU: Intel(R)Celeron(R)[email protected] at 2000 MHz (4000 bogomips), HD: 72/109GB, RAM: 1949/2004MB, 148 proc's, 2.3h up | |
| [02:18] <Gon> only kdepim libs are broken :s | |
| [02:33] <Riddell> Gon: well I uploaded a fix but your main problem is that you don't have kubuntu ppa backports enabled | |
| [02:36] <Sir-Gon> Riddell: ! sorry, | |
| [02:36] <Sir-Gon> sorry, it's true, I did not realize I had moved my kubuntu-ppa.list from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | |
| [02:36] <Sir-Gon> :$ | |
| [02:50] <Sir-Gon> Riddell: ! | |
| [02:50] <Sir-Gon> I have enabled kubuntu ppa backports now | |
| [02:50] <Sir-Gon> and... | |
| [02:50] <Sir-Gon> No se satisfacen las dependencias de los siguientes paquetes: | |
| [02:50] <Sir-Gon> kdepim-dev: Depende: libqtphonon-dev (>= 4.5) que es un paquete virtual. | |
| [02:55] <lex79> Sir-Gon: wait...he uploaded kdepim right now, is still building, you can see here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports when it is finished | |
| [03:05] <Sir-Gon> aaaaaah ok :D | |
| [03:05] <Sir-Gon> thanks | |
| [03:08] <lex79> :) | |
| [03:14] <maco> hey Riddell | |
| [03:15] <maco> i just hit a question that i cant answer because im not sure how apt-get upgrade works. if you install a package with dpkg -i and it is available in a repository, will it get updates? or will apt only update things that it has installed itself? i *think* the former, but im not sure.. | |
| [03:23] <lex79> maco: apt can upgrade the packages which you installed with dpkg -i, there are not problems :) | |
| [03:24] <maco> lex79: thanks | |
| [03:24] <lex79> you're welcome | |
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| [03:52] <ScottK> maco: apt is a front end for dpkg which is a front end for dselect. | |
| [03:52] <ScottK> So dpkg installs it regardless of if you call dpkg directly or not. | |
| [03:55] <maco> i know dpkg installs it | |
| [03:55] <maco> i meant does apt only know to upgrade things that apt has installed | |
| [03:55] <maco> i know aptitude maintains its own db separate from dpkg's, so i didnt know if that had an effect | |
| [03:57] <ScottK> Right. That's one of the reasons I don't use aptitude. It doesn't use the package cache the rest of the system uses. | |
| [03:57] <ScottK> Apt and dpkg use the same mechanisms to track package status. | |
| [04:02] <Sir-Gon> Riddell, lex79 | |
| [04:02] <Sir-Gon> thanks!!!!! | |
| [04:02] <Sir-Gon> i'm updating now | |
| [04:02] <Sir-Gon> =D | |
| [04:37] <Sir-Gon> finally | |
| [04:37] * Sir-Gon building konversation from svn :D | |
| [05:10] <ScottK> Riddell: googlefight.com is another site that works in Firefox, but not Arora. | |
| [06:38] <ulaas> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.InvalidMountOption : The option 'locale=en_US.UTF-8' is not allowed for uid=1000 | |
| [06:39] <ulaas> should this go to launchpad? | |
| [08:01] <Lure> Riddell, ScottK: akonadi-googledata is waiting in NEW queue for somebody to kick it over | |
| [08:24] <ScottK> ulaas: Sure. | |
| [08:25] <ulaas> ScottK: ok! installing / launching and adding that this disk with ntfs-config makes it work. does this make a difference? | |
| [08:26] <ScottK> Please put it in the bug, | |
| [08:26] <ulaas> ok | |
| [08:28] <ulaas> ScottK: sorry to bug you all the time but i know that it is hal related. but it is seen on dolphin. so hal? or dolphin? | |
| [08:29] <tsimpson> ulaas: report for dolphin, if it's a hal issue we'll move it to hal for you | |
| [08:30] <ulaas> tsimpson: allrighty.. | |
| [08:31] <tsimpson> always assume the bug is at the highest level (unless you know better), then work your way down | |
| [08:32] <ulaas> the only think that i know "better" is that i know nothing. socrates... | |
| [08:34] <tsimpson> for every rule, there is an exception. rules without an exception, are the exception to this rule. me :) | |
| [08:35] <ulaas> :) | |
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| === kubotu_ is now known as kubotu | |
| === PriceChild is now known as Pricey | |
| [16:43] <ryanakca> Riddell: Thanks for frescobaldi | |
| [16:43] <Riddell> it had such a cool name I couldn't ignore it | |
| [16:44] <Tm_T> moi juissi | |
| [16:45] <ryanakca> Riddell: hehe :) Are you watching the "ICF Canoe Sprint World Championships" today? | |
| [16:45] <Riddell> ryanakca: no, where's that happening? | |
| [16:46] <ryanakca> Riddell: Dartmouth / Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada | |
| [16:48] <Riddell> any Scots winning? | |
| [16:49] <ryanakca> Riddell: No clue, but you can watch it at http://www.canoeicf.com/default.asp?Page=2524 since I'm guessing it won't be broadcast in the UK | |
| [16:49] <ScottK> My first thought was that I'm not competing, then I noticed the insufficiency of t's. | |
| [17:16] <nixternal> WHOSE IDEA WAS IT TO CHANGE THE CHOQOK ICON TO A GREEN COLOR!?!?!?!? | |
| [17:16] <nixternal> anyways, thanks! I love it, I can tell the difference between it and kopete now :) | |
| [18:29] * ScottK notes Debian Bug#541691 to koffice lovers and suggests go help. | |
| [18:29] <ScottK> Debian Bug #541691 even | |
| [18:29] <ubottu> Debian bug 541691 in wnpp "RFH: koffice -- KDE Office Suite" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/541691 | |
| [18:31] <Riddell> mm, I've entirely forgotten to do koffice 2.0.2 | |
| [18:51] <lex79> Riddell: I update koffice in bzr few days ago, but now I'm merging with experimental | |
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| [19:08] <Riddell> lex79: great, let me know when it's ready to upload | |
| [19:08] <lex79> ok | |
| [19:13] <ulaas> current knetworkmanger is a no go with wpa.. | |
| [19:13] <ulaas> is that correct? | |
| [19:18] <Riddell> ulaas: it should work with wpa | |
| [19:19] <ulaas> Riddell: lemme check my ap for a sec. just to be sure.. | |
| [19:21] <ulaas> Riddell: ok. my kubuntu karmic is a fresh 64 install early today.. had no luck with my AP set to wpa. | |
| [19:21] <ulaas> using wicd atm | |
| [19:24] <ulaas> Riddell: i also have a cable connection handy! and my wicd debs downloaded already. if you want me to test anything.. ican.. | |
| [19:25] <ryanakca> Can someone try to apt-get install mono-2.0-gac and see if they get a "Size mismatch" error ? | |
| [19:25] <rgreening> ulaas: you need the updates from after Alpha4 for the fix | |
| [19:26] <ulaas> rgreening: i am always bleeding edge. if you are not tailking about a specific PPA | |
| [19:26] <rgreening> ulaas: you have it all updated to latest updates? | |
| [19:26] <rgreening> no PPA required | |
| [19:28] <ulaas> rgreening: so no luck. i am fully updated.. | |
| [19:29] <rgreening> ulaas: strange. Try deleting the AP and kill knetworkmanager and restart it. Reconfigure the AP from scratch again. | |
| [19:29] <rgreening> ulaas: I had to do this to get mine to pick up the first time. | |
| [19:30] <ulaas> rgreening: give me the package name.. to make good test .as there are plasma--this networkmanager-that - blah blah everywhere | |
| [19:30] <rgreening> killall knetworkmanager (as above) | |
| [19:31] <ulaas> lemme apt*get | |
| [19:31] <rgreening> no | |
| [19:31] <rgreening> don't you already have knetworkmanager running in system tray? | |
| [19:31] <ulaas> no i have wicd up. remember knetworkm.. does not work for me... | |
| [19:31] <rgreening> If it's not in the system tray, then you are using the old plasmoid, which does not work. | |
| [19:32] <rgreening> oh | |
| [19:32] <rgreening> 1 sec then | |
| [19:32] <rgreening> don't install yet | |
| [19:32] <ulaas> rgreening: at your service.ready to roll. | |
| [19:32] <rgreening> ulaas: plasma-widget-networkmanagement: /usr/bin/knetworkmanager | |
| [19:33] <rgreening> apt-get install plasma-widget-networkmanagement | |
| [19:33] <ulaas> hmmmm i may drop... i ll be back.. | |
| [19:33] <rgreening> kk | |
| [19:43] <ulaas> rgreening: yay!!!! | |
| [19:47] <ulaas> that will do!!! i was installing plasma-widget-network-manager | |
| [19:47] <ulaas> plasma-widget-networkmangement is good | |
| [19:47] <ulaas> rgreening: kudos and thanks. | |
| [19:50] <ulaas> rgreening: seems to be ok. a reboot was neccessary though | |
| [19:51] <rgreening> cool. A logout may have worked also :) | |
| [19:52] <ulaas> did that. worked but dropped reconnected a few times. so rebooted. anyway .similar named packages. that was my problem | |
| [19:52] <ulaas> thank you very much. | |
| [19:52] <ulaas> rgreening: one more question :) will kde 4.4 see exchange support? | |
| [19:53] <rgreening> ulaas: not sure, but a good place ot ask would be #kde-devel or #kontact I guess. | |
| [19:54] <ulaas> rgreening: i see. thats the only thing left blocks me a full switch :) | |
| [19:54] <rgreening> actually, talk to stgraber, usually in #ubuntu-devel | |
| [19:55] <ulaas> rgreening: will do. thx again | |
| [19:55] <rgreening> stgraber does a lot of stuff with Schools/business and Linux. He may know more on this subject. | |
| [19:56] <rgreening> also Tonio_ may know too... he has similar experience with integrating linux into french parliament, etc... | |
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| [21:15] <Nightrose> which repo is amarok 2.1.1 in for jaunty? | |
| [21:15] * Nightrose lost track of it and a user can't find it | |
| [21:18] <Nightrose> ok nvm | |
| [21:42] * ryanakca found a bug in irssi, hurray ;) (sigsev when running '/window move down') in a split window) | |
| === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde | |