| [00:40] <linuxman410> are the going to put another irc client in next version of lubuntu since they are dropping xchat | |
| [00:43] <linuxman410> anyone here | |
| [00:43] <Unit193> linuxman410: You can always install xchat and Pidgin is an IRC client | |
| [00:44] <linuxman410> Unit193 why are they removing it using too much memory | |
| [01:01] <Unit193> linuxman410: IIRC, to free some space on the CD | |
| [01:16] <Slick666> Hi all | |
| [01:16] <Slick666> I was looking at doing a lubuntu 64-bit install | |
| [01:17] <Slick666> any way to do this? | |
| [01:17] <phillw> yup | |
| [01:17] <phillw> the topic as the links :) | |
| [01:18] <Slick666> oh yea | |
| [01:21] <Slick666> this might be a little newbish but is it easy to install next to a regular ubuntu install | |
| [01:22] <Slick666> so I would have Windows/Ubuntu/Lubuntu | |
| [01:41] <phillw> Slick666: yes, it is... | |
| [01:43] <phillw> Slick666: how well do you know ubuntu and the disk system? | |
| [01:43] <Slick666> A decent amount | |
| [01:43] <Slick666> I wasn't sure how well the install would play with the Grub that was already there | |
| [01:44] <phillw> grub lives on the MBR area - when you install a new OS grub just needs telling to go and find it @:) | |
| [01:44] <Slick666> cool | |
| [01:45] <phillw> the way I do it, is extended partitions - as you can only have 4 primary ones | |
| [02:38] <linuxman410> have they decided on lxde or lightdm yet | |
| [02:38] <linuxman410> for 11.10 | |
| [02:39] <linuxman410> anyone here | |
| [02:40] <linuxman410> phillw you here | |
| [02:44] <Unit193> linuxman410: Not quite yet | |
| [02:44] <linuxman410> Unit193 they are not going to unity are they | |
| [02:47] <linuxman410> Unit193 you here | |
| [02:47] <Unit193> linuxman410: Lubuntu = LXDE, not Unity | |
| [02:47] <linuxman410> thanks | |
| [02:47] <linuxman410> Unit193 i do not like unity or gnome 3 | |
| [02:48] <Unit193> linuxman410: I'm not going with Unity any time soon, nor do I plan to use Gnome (XFCE isn't bad though) | |
| [02:51] <linuxman410> Unit193 i prefer lxde or openbox | |
| [12:50] <maahes> I er...have a weird problem: my version dependencies for lxde in natty are all screwed up | |
| [12:57] <maahes> lxde-core won't install because lxde-common won't install and lxde-common won't install because lxsession won't install. lxsession by itself installs fine. And all version numbers meet the dependency requirements. | |
| [12:57] <maahes> and these are the latest lxde packages in natty, so I'm confused | |
| [12:58] <maahes> lubuntu can't be broken | |
| [13:00] <maahes> the whole reason I'm wanting to install btw, is so that I can get lxsession/settings/appearance to work with awesomewm | |
| [13:00] <maahes> so far lxappearance isn't effecting my gtk settings at all | |
| [13:04] <maahes> or rather...nevermind it is, its just not effecting synaptic | |
| [13:05] <maahes> also lxinput crashes when I try and change the mouse settings but this is a known issue with no fix yet, so yey. | |
| [13:08] <pmatulis> is there any way to sync files with ubuntu one? | |
| [14:45] <leszek> hi | |
| [17:21] <gumus> hi all | |
| [17:21] <gumus> does anyone know how to connect to FTP server? | |
| [17:22] <gumus> when i searched for it most of the solutions were for ubuntu | |
| [17:23] <phillw> gumus: I use filezilla for my ftp stuff. I'm sure there are other ways, but I'm used to that one :) | |
| [17:24] <szczur> gumus, you can just run filemanager and put ftp://user@server as a path | |
| [17:24] <szczur> same thing for sftp or ssh | |
| [17:27] <phillw> also chromium 'should' now support ftp... http://blog.chromium.org/2009/09/new-ftp-implementation-goes-live.html | |
| [17:27] <szczur> make sure that gvfs-backends is installed | |
| [17:27] <szczur> sudo apt-get install gvfs-backends | |
| [17:28] <bioterror> no one should support ftp | |
| [17:28] <gumus> i'll take a look at it , thanks! | |
| [17:28] <bioterror> let's start from there ;) | |
| [17:28] <phillw> lol | |
| [17:34] <gumus> wow | |
| [17:34] <gumus> i didn't know it was easy that much | |
| [17:40] <gumus> guys, i got one more question about FTP | |
| [17:42] <gumus> i managed to reach the server as i wrote the address, however i want to make that common folder stable. is just bookmarking enough? | |
| === Unit193 is now known as Unit193BeGone | |
| [19:52] <pmatulis> installed 11.04 yesterday. so far i'm quite happy! | |
| [19:54] <AmberJ> Hello | |
| [19:55] <AmberJ> LXDE_menu -> Preferences -> Keyboard and Mouse exits when I try to change 'mouse sensitivity'... | |
| [19:55] <AmberJ> amber@amberj-lubuntu:~$ lxinput | |
| [19:55] <AmberJ> Segmentation fault | |
| [19:56] <bioterror> !dgb | |
| [19:56] <bioterror> noooo | |
| [19:56] <bioterror> !backtrace | |
| [19:56] <ubot5> To get a backtrace of a failing application please read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace | |
| [19:57] <phillw> AmberJ: you on 11.04? | |
| [19:58] <AmberJ> yes phillw | |
| [19:59] <phillw> AmberJ: let me just fire it up.. | |
| [20:02] <phillw> AmberJ: I can confirm that on my VM..... It's a little gremlin :( | |
| [20:02] <bioterror> make backtrace and send it to launchpad | |
| [20:02] <AmberJ> bioterror, doing that. | |
| [20:04] <AmberJ> bioterror, the application hanged when I tried reproducing the error...When I try to Ctrl+c in gdb nothing happens...Any idea as to how I get past this? | |
| [20:05] <bioterror> what :D | |
| [20:05] <phillw-virtual> soz, just had to jump from 11-10 alpha1 back to 11-04 to confirm a bug. Jeez, these VM's are cute a s hell :D | |
| [20:05] <AmberJ> bioterror, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation ....Step 4 | |
| [20:06] <phillw-virtual> whoops... wrong channel :-[ | |
| [20:06] <AmberJ> phillw, it still makes sense though :D | |
| [20:06] <bioterror> do you see lxinput process? | |
| [20:06] <bioterror> give it a kill witout -9 | |
| [20:07] <bioterror> without | |
| [20:07] <bioterror> if it doesnt take just plain kill, give it then -9 | |
| [20:08] <AmberJ> didn't worked without -9... | |
| [20:08] <AmberJ> Ok, got it killed with -9 | |
| [20:09] <AmberJ> bioterror, damn...now though the cursor flashes at terminal, it doesnot allows me to type anything at (gdb) prompt | |
| [20:10] <bioterror> :D | |
| [20:10] <bioterror> rather difficult to solve what's the problem | |
| [20:10] <bioterror> phillw-virtual, do backtrace in your vm | |
| [20:11] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: I do not know enough about the VM. The error should be logged somewhere. | |
| [20:11] <phillw-virtual> if you can talk me through it - I will try. But am still 100% n00b at VM! | |
| [20:11] <AmberJ> bioterror, http://codepad.org/zs458L5Q quickie look into current state of gdb log in case you are interested | |
| [20:12] <AmberJ> phillw, using vbox? | |
| [20:12] <bioterror> AmberJ, doesnt tell much =D | |
| [20:13] <phillw-virtual> yeah - the oracle one. I've never used VM's before so am really new to it all! | |
| [20:13] <AmberJ> phillw, So, you see lubuntu desktop....right | |
| [20:13] <AmberJ> ? | |
| [20:13] <AmberJ> Just open lxterminal... | |
| [20:14] <AmberJ> and install gdb... | |
| [20:14] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: do you want me to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace#Generation and install gdb? | |
| [20:14] <bioterror> da | |
| [20:14] <phillw-virtual> okies - I've done that before for pcmanfm :) | |
| [20:16] <phillw-virtual> installed... next? | |
| [20:18] <bioterror> continue guide | |
| [20:18] * phillw-virtual twiddles thumbs as awaits which <program> you want ;) gdb <program> 2>&1 | tee ~/gdb-<program>.txt | |
| [20:19] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: remember I'm admin / wiki - not a coder :P | |
| [20:20] <phillw-virtual> 'phone... brb | |
| [20:22] <AmberJ> phillw, <program> is lxinput | |
| [20:22] <bioterror> phillw-virtual, then you should understand that your wiki stuff :D | |
| [20:23] <phillw-virtual> lol | |
| [20:24] <AmberJ> Isn't there a way to assign a shortcut to quickly switch from one keyboard layout to another? | |
| [20:24] <AmberJ> lxkeymap doesnot seems to have one :( | |
| [20:25] <phillw-virtual> AmberJ: there is - just let me sort this out 1st! | |
| [20:26] <AmberJ> ok | |
| [20:26] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: command done. do you want me to launch the program? | |
| [20:27] <bioterror> how else you would backtrace it?-) | |
| [20:29] <phillw-virtual> lol - it's nearly 2 years since I last used gdb - give this old dog a little while :) | |
| [20:29] <phillw-virtual> It has successfully crashed | |
| [20:29] <phillw-virtual> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. | |
| [20:29] <phillw-virtual> 0x006f6300 in _XSend () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 | |
| [20:29] <bioterror> now run rest of the commands | |
| [20:30] <AmberJ> lol phillw over your reply: "It has successfully crashed" :D | |
| [20:31] <AmberJ> That reminds me of http://amberj.devio.us/pub/funnie/lxde_error_msg.jpg ;) | |
| [20:31] <bioterror> :D | |
| [20:31] <phillw-virtual> A debugging session is active. | |
| [20:31] <phillw-virtual> Inferior 1 [process 1816] will be killed. | |
| [20:31] <phillw-virtual> Quit anyway? (y or n) | |
| [20:31] <phillw-virtual> (after 'quit') | |
| [20:33] <phillw-virtual> I assume 'y' but I do not wish to make an "ass" out of "u" and "me" ... please advise. | |
| [20:34] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: ?? | |
| [20:34] <bioterror> press y then | |
| [20:36] <phillw-virtual> -rw-r--r-- 1 phillw phillw 8573 2011-06-17 20:31 gdb-lxinput.txt | |
| [20:36] <phillw-virtual> you want this? | |
| [20:36] <bioterror> I dont want it, but lxinput developers might want ;) | |
| [20:45] <phillw-virtual> AmberJ: can you pop onto https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxinput/+bug/798919 and confirm it (and say 'affects me) - thanks. | |
| [20:45] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 798919 in lxinput (Ubuntu) "When adjusting mouse speed program seg-faults" [Undecided,New] | |
| [20:47] <bioterror> phillw-virtual, where's the gdb-lxinput.txt stuff? | |
| [20:48] <phillw-virtual> I told it to attach? :( | |
| [20:48] <bioterror> y u launchpad no attachment!? | |
| [20:48] <bioterror> :D | |
| [20:52] <bioterror> gilir, hop | |
| [20:54] <phillw-virtual> AmberJ: if you head over to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ you'll find multiple keyboards discussed at about https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ#Multiple keyboard layouts :) | |
| [20:55] <phillw-virtual> bioterror: is it there? | |
| [20:55] <AmberJ> confirmed the bug. | |
| [20:56] <phillw-virtual> thanks. It will keep the devs out of the pub for a night :P | |
| [20:57] <bioterror> hurrrhhh... a link to forum discussion | |
| [21:00] <phillw> bioterror: they had a good discussion on it. I think it is quite excellent and come 11-10 will be using it for the FAQ wiki side, as we do need to be able to support multiple languages. | |
| [21:01] <phillw> My fun with the swede earlier is testament to the fact lubuntu 'can' do it, just needs some instructions :) | |
| [21:01] <AmberJ> phillw, thanks for the link... | |
| [21:03] <phillw> AmberJ: as you may tell, i'm a documenter - these guys on here are front line support. I will always do as requested to help the project, and they enjoy re-telling me stuff that I have not touched in over a year :) | |
| [21:08] <AmberJ> phillw, these guys? | |
| [21:08] <AmberJ> And, is lubuntu officially supported by canonical now? | |
| [21:08] <AmberJ> Or, are you volunteer documenter? | |
| [21:09] <bioterror> AmberJ, we are all volunteered | |
| [21:09] <bioterror> and not yet, 11.10 will be "official" | |
| [21:09] <phillw> I'm a volunteer, we all are. lubuntu is on track to be 'fully' canonical endorsed for 11-10 | |
| [21:10] <phillw> Canonical has very few 'employees' and many thousands and thousands of volunteers. | |
| [21:15] <AmberJ> well yea...'voluteer', this is what most of open source is all about :) | |
| [21:18] <phillw> bug #1 | |
| [21:18] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 | |
| [21:39] <beef-supreme> anyone here use xmonad? | |
| [21:39] <beef-supreme> i need help setting it up in such a way that it keeps a ?px margin | |
| [21:39] <bioterror> what does lxde and xmonad have in common? :D | |
| [21:40] <beef-supreme> x? | |