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| [00:33] <bjsnider> BUGabundo, you do not need smartmontools to get smart data | |
| [00:34] <BUGabundo> ok | |
| [00:37] <bjsnider> udisks --ata-smart-refresh /dev/sdx | |
| [00:37] <bjsnider> for sata | |
| [00:38] <bjsnider> that's what palimpsest uses, and really that's all you need | |
| [00:38] <BUGabundo> didn't know that | |
| [00:40] <bjsnider> that means you can remove smartmontools and its dependencies | |
| [00:41] <BUGabundo> meh | |
| [00:41] <BUGabundo> I like them | |
| [00:41] <BUGabundo> used to use them | |
| [00:41] <BUGabundo> will eventually stop | |
| [00:41] <BUGabundo> its like aptitude | |
| [00:41] <BUGabundo> its the 1st thing I install | |
| [00:44] <alex_mayorga> what's the widget that tells me if my disk is about to break? | |
| [00:46] <BUGabundo> do we have one ? | |
| [00:50] <bjsnider> there's no "widget", but the palimpsest disk utility handles the task if you launch it | |
| [00:50] <bjsnider> it's actually called palimpsest, so if you search for that in unity or gnome-shell it will find it | |
| [00:51] <bjsnider> but smart data is not totally accurate, and the disk might be ready to fail even if the smart data says it's healthy | |
| [01:05] <alex_mayorga> bjsnider: thanks | |
| [01:05] <CarlFK> something pops up a dialog every so often "your disk is about to break " | |
| [01:08] <BUGabundo> I hope not | |
| [01:08] <BUGabundo> I disabled that two cycles ago | |
| [01:08] <BUGabundo> it was madness | |
| [02:19] <BUGabundo> nite | |
| [02:55] <billybigrigger> hey all | |
| [02:56] <billybigrigger> i just did a fresh install of 11.04 the other day, and i got the Addition Drivers dialog, and thought maybe oneiric that maybe we could start including driver versions for drivers, ie the ati/nvidia/broadcom drivers... | |
| [02:57] <billybigrigger> it would just be nice for a new user to see what driver they're getting, and maybe a bit more info on the driver aswell | |
| [02:57] <billybigrigger> is this being considered/implemented already? | |
| [03:04] <IdleOne> 'apt-cache policy nvidia-*' will tell you the version of your nvidia driver or you can check via Software Center or Synaptic | |
| [03:05] <IdleOne> apt-cache policy nvidia* | grep Installed | |
| [03:09] <billybigrigger> IdleOne, i know this | |
| [03:10] <billybigrigger> haha im not new | |
| [03:10] <billybigrigger> i'm just saying doing a fresh install opened my eyes to the fact that maybe new users want to know more of what they're installing | |
| [03:10] <IdleOne> ok, well "regular" users can use one of the package managers to see what they have installed and what version | |
| [03:11] <billybigrigger> not if your using additional drivers | |
| [03:11] <billybigrigger> ie restricted drivers | |
| [03:11] <IdleOne> it is a scientific fact that a more verbose installer is scary! | |
| [03:11] <IdleOne> I made that up ^ | |
| [03:12] <billybigrigger> the restricted drivers dialog is the first step to installing any closed-source video driver... | |
| [03:12] <IdleOne> yeah | |
| [03:12] <billybigrigger> there is no previous driver to find a version from...nor is there a version viewable anywhere | |
| [03:12] <billybigrigger> that's scary | |
| [03:12] <IdleOne> there has to be some sort of video driver | |
| [03:13] <IdleOne> isn't it vesa? | |
| [03:13] <billybigrigger> yeah xorg-server-video-ati | |
| [03:13] <billybigrigger> im talking the restricted drivers dialog that wants you to install propriatery ati driver | |
| [03:13] <charlie-tca> most " normal " users don' t really care what any version of anything is. They just want the computer to work. | |
| [03:13] <billybigrigger> there's no version or "More Info" tab anywhere, it sucks | |
| [03:14] <IdleOne> there is a version and info available...in the package managers | |
| [03:14] <IdleOne> maybe a more info tab would be good. | |
| [03:14] <IdleOne> I suppose. get working on it :) | |
| [03:14] <billybigrigger> im not a dev | |
| [03:15] <IdleOne> neither am I. brainstorm.ubuntu.com | |
| [03:16] <billybigrigger> how about the progress bar when extracting an archive in nautilus | |
| [03:17] <billybigrigger> it goes from 0 - %50 on the bar, and sits there until the archive is extracted, then jumps to %100 when it's all done | |
| [03:17] <billybigrigger> it's been like that since i hoary...no plans to fix this either? an actual "working" progress bar would be nice | |
| [03:18] <billybigrigger> IdleOne, any opinions on this? :P | |
| [03:18] <billybigrigger> hehe jk man | |
| [03:18] <IdleOne> haha I never really paid attention to that | |
| [03:21] <billybigrigger> its been broken for years | |
| [03:22] <IdleOne> usually I hit install and switch window | |
| [03:22] <IdleOne> I don't look at the progress. report a bug perhaps, not sure what package you would report against | |
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| [03:33] <billybigrigger> file roller i assume | |
| [03:33] <billybigrigger> it happens when your extracting a .rar volume | |
| [05:02] <ircrob> pulseaudio should not depend on consolekit | |
| [05:03] <ircrob> use dbus if needed | |
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| [18:40] <BluesKaj> does the new 3.0-1 kernel fix the graphics screwups that came with 3.0-0 ? | |
| [18:45] <yofel> not sure, I've nvidia running with 275 and 3.0-0, haven't rebooted with 3.0-1 yet | |
| [18:48] <BluesKaj> yofel, I have nvidia 8400gs and 3.0-0 totally screwed my setup... had to revert to 11.04 , that new nvidia current driver wasn't working for my card | |
| [18:49] <yofel> :/ | |
| [18:49] <BluesKaj> yeah the 275 | |
| [18:51] <BluesKaj> no harm done tho , I didn't lose any data ...did a nice clean install to / | |
| [19:24] <Ian_Corne> nvidia "works" on 3.0.1-pae now | |
| [19:27] <BluesKaj> which nvidia, Ian_Corne ? | |
| [19:27] <Ian_Corne> 275 | |
| [19:27] <BluesKaj> which card ? | |
| [19:28] <Ian_Corne> but i'm saying "works" | |
| [19:28] <Ian_Corne> because glxinfo errors | |
| [19:28] <Ian_Corne> and I'm being thrown back to unity2D | |
| [19:28] <Ian_Corne> 425M | |
| [19:30] * BluesKaj decides to stick with what I have til at least beta ..my other box has "O" working ok with 7600gt card, but the 8400gs here is iffy | |
| [19:46] <Ian_Corne> When trying to update atm: i get that mesa wants to uninstall the nvidia driver and gnome-panel wants to unistall gnome-panel | |
| [19:53] <BluesKaj> yup Ian_Corne , that happened to me yesterday | |
| [19:53] <trism> Ian_Corne: mesa breaks on nvidia-current for now until lp 798049 is fixed | |
| [19:54] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 798049 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "nvidia-* and fglrx need to be migrated to per-architecture gl_conf alternative" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798049 | |
| [19:59] <BluesKaj> still looks messy to me | |
| [20:03] <BluesKaj> Ian_Corne, in my case mesa wanted to remove most of the kde apps | |
| [20:04] <zniavre> mesa does not want legacy 173.14.xx nvidia driver too | |
| [20:05] * BluesKaj doesn't regret reverting to 11.04 | |
| [20:05] <zniavre> :o) | |
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| [21:52] <afv> hi, is anybody having problems in empathy (opening a chat window)?.. the chat window just "hangs" and empathy-chat process has 100% cpu usage | |
| [21:52] <afv> since 3 or 4 days ago | |
| [21:53] <afv> already deleted the config folders from my home, purged/reinstalled the packages.. | |
| [21:56] <Ian_Corne> yes afv | |
| [22:00] <afv> ah, as i didn't see any post about this on the forums.. is the cause known? any workaround? | |
| [22:06] <Ampelbein> afv: see bug 798377 | |
| [22:06] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 798377 in empathy (Ubuntu) "empathy is using lot of cpu when opening the window chat" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/798377 | |
| [22:07] <Ampelbein> (no workaround though) | |
| [22:08] <CarlFK> natty loaded snd-hda-intel - todays oneiric 3.0-1 does not, so no sound. should I bug this on lp? | |
| [22:08] <afv> Ampelbein, thanks! | |
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