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| [06:56] <jam> morning all | |
| [07:05] <vila> hey jam | |
| [07:05] <vila> morning all | |
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| [07:43] <Riddell> good morning | |
| [07:45] <jelmer> moin | |
| [07:47] <vila> jelmer: Riddell " moin | |
| [08:04] <Riddell> oneiric beta's out, time to upgrade everyone! | |
| [08:25] <poolie> hi Riddell, jelmer, vila | |
| [08:31] <poolie> vila, so there's no pressure for a 2.3.5 or 2.4.1 yet? | |
| [08:31] <vila> worth a check but I think we're fine there | |
| [08:33] <poolie> so 2.2.5 is mostly for the sake of branch-out-of-date warnings? | |
| [08:33] <vila> I should file a bug probably if only to collect feedback about what the upgrade policies are across ... err... whatever combination of python/subunit/testtools we want to support on ... hardy, lucid and up ? | |
| [08:34] <vila> so far yes, there is also #805809 but it's unclear that many people can/will encounter it | |
| [08:34] <jam> vila: if you're just doing "date" on pqm, it tells you the timezone | |
| [08:34] <vila> jam: UTC then | |
| [08:35] <vila> jam: but it makes the file stamp origin even more... surprising | |
| [08:35] <vila> jam: any guess for that ? | |
| [08:36] <jam> vila: I'm not 100% sure what those timestamps are, let me dig a bit | |
| [08:37] <jam> vila: 'the file timestamp', is that mtime or ctime? | |
| [08:37] <jam> (last modification time, creation time) | |
| [08:38] <jam> its pretty clear that your file times don't correlate well with your datestamps | |
| [08:38] <vila> jam: I mean the stamp embedded in the file *name* | |
| [08:39] <jam> vila: I think that might be the time it was submitted, which could certainly vary wildly from when the test starts | |
| [08:39] <vila> jam: so patch.1314909400.log ==> 2011-09-01 22:36:40 | |
| [08:39] <vila> jam: you mean received ? | |
| [08:39] <jam> vila: sure | |
| [08:39] <jam> given that 2 of them are about 3 seconds different | |
| [08:39] <jam> 2011-09-01 13:03:31: duration: 2:53:02 start: 2011-09-01 15:18:26, end: 2011-09-01 18:11:28 | |
| [08:39] <jam> 2011-09-01 13:03:34: duration: 2:07:47 start: 2011-09-01 18:13:16, end: 2011-09-01 20:21:03 | |
| [08:39] <jam> that can certainly be "submit submit" | |
| [08:40] <jam> but it won't be running a test in between there | |
| [08:40] <vila> jam: vary, yes, depending on load, but *after* selftest starts ???!?!?! | |
| [08:40] * jelmer will bbiab | |
| [08:40] <vila> jam: yeah, I noticed the 3 seconds | |
| [08:40] <jam> vila: not-be-reliable-at-all-because-it-has-nothing-to-do-with-when-the-test-starts | |
| [08:41] <poolie> hi jam? | |
| [08:41] <vila> jam: well, the file *has* to exist before we write into it | |
| [08:41] <jam> hi poolie | |
| [08:41] <poolie> hey, see my pm? | |
| [08:41] <jam> poolie: I did not | |
| [08:41] <jam> ugh, there it is | |
| [08:42] <vila> jam: so it *has* something to do with when the test starts... | |
| [08:43] <jam> vila: given the lack of significant correlation, I would ignore it personally | |
| [08:43] <jam> or read the pqm code to figure out what the number means | |
| [08:57] <poolie> vila, hey, i'm kind of concerned this pqm investigation is .. | |
| [08:57] <poolie> being done in a laborious way, i suppose | |
| [08:57] <poolie> i want the test suite to be fast again | |
| [08:58] <poolie> IS are working on replacing the machine | |
| [08:58] <poolie> separately we could look at tarmac | |
| [08:58] <poolie> hopefully this particular setup has a life expectancy of only days or weeks | |
| [08:59] <poolie> but, do as you think best i suppose | |
| [09:00] <jam> poolie: I have a patch that just removes fsync, and I'm happy enough that it fixes the short term issues | |
| [09:00] <jam> its about 2:1 | |
| [09:01] <poolie> wfm | |
| [09:01] <poolie> ok, good night then | |
| [09:01] <vila> poolie: well, I agree with all you've said above, that was my understanding weeks ago when I realize the slowdown (i.e. wait for the new pqm before anything else), as you've seen the patch was minimal and I didn't spend much on it | |
| [09:01] <poolie> ok | |
| [09:03] <vila> jam, poolie, jelmer, Riddell : thanks for not targeting lp:bzr/2.2 with your landings today, other branches are fine, will slow me down a bit, but I can work on other stuff | |
| [09:06] <jam> vila: I shall never submit to your tyranny! | |
| [09:06] <jam> and vila, you're probably not going to get a merge window before tomorrow, unfortunately | |
| [09:07] <jam> I'm counting about 12 hours of PQM before your 2.2 branch | |
| [09:09] <jam> vila: unless you want to prioritize: https://code.launchpad.net/~jameinel/bzr/2.4-disable-selftest-fdatasync-837293/+merge/73757 before the rest :) | |
| [09:10] <vila> jam: hehe | |
| [09:11] <vila> yeah, I went to the pqm web page after saying this and... well, the point is: once 2.2.5 lands, I'll need to pull and submit again to open 2.2.6, so please leave 2.2 alone until you see the opening | |
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| [10:19] <danilos> jam: hi, thanks for the review — I think I'll just go with what I have now, just because HTTP headers seem to be set already and I'd have to restructure the code a bit otherwise to be able to raise a HTTPNotFound instead | |
| [10:19] <jam> danilos: I don't think the headers are sent until we actually start sending data | |
| [10:19] <jam> but I could be wrong | |
| [10:19] <danilos> jam: also, LP seems not to have picked up on your "merge:approve": I think you've got to use something like " merge approve\n review approve" | |
| [10:20] <jam> danilos: no, I just need "merge: approve" vs "merge:approve" I was missing a ' ' | |
| [10:20] <jam> merge approve auto review approves | |
| [10:20] <danilos> jam: I've actually tried it out and got "AssertionError: Attempt to set headers a second time w/o an exc_info" | |
| [10:20] <danilos> jam: oh, nice, I didn't know that :) | |
| [10:20] <jam> danilos: yeah, saves typing | |
| [10:20] <jam> so sure, go ahead and land it | |
| [10:21] <danilos> jam: thanks, I will | |
| [10:25] <danilos> jam, can you please mark it as approved so it doesn't appear as unapproved on the bug (https://code.launchpad.net/~danilo/loggerhead/bug-839395/+merge/73766) | |
| [10:25] <ubot5> Ubuntu bug 73766 in Bazaar GTK+ Frontends "Remove file does not update view to show file is removed" [Undecided,Fix released] | |
| [10:25] <danilos> ubot5, very smart, thank you | |
| [10:25] <ubot5> danilos: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | |
| [10:25] <danilos> that's what I said! | |
| [10:32] <jam> danilos: its marked Merged now, I don't think you need me to regress it back to Approved :) | |
| [10:40] <danilos> jam: I thought you'd only do a vote, not touch the entire proposal status, but I guess no big deal :) | |
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| [12:34] <jelmer> jam: hi, does bug 839515 look familiar to you? | |
| [12:34] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 839515 in bzr (Ubuntu) "bzr crashed with BzrCheckError in _commit_write_group(): Internal check failed: Cannot add revision(s) to repository: missing referenced chk root keys: [StaticTuple('sha1:3c52a9038699157dee61f9bd1b03d255fa021805',)]" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839515 | |
| [12:35] <jelmer> I remember there were some stacking bugs that were fixed a while ago that looked similar. Could this be fallout from those bugs? | |
| [12:39] <jam> jelmer: that specifically looks like the bug that made us default to not fetching tags | |
| [12:41] <jam> but it does appear that the *.../ubuntu branch is broken | |
| [12:45] <jelmer> jam: thanks for confirming | |
| [14:55] <AuroraBorealis> so continuing my question that i didn't get answered, what exactly does 'signing' your commits do? since after signing mine, the branch appears unchanged | |
| [14:58] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis, with newer versions of bzr you can see the signatures by running "bzr log" with a particular option | |
| [14:58] <AuroraBorealis> does that include 2.4.0? | |
| [14:59] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis: I'm not sure, it might just be bzr.dev at this point | |
| [14:59] <AuroraBorealis> it seems natty doesn't have 2.4.0 yet o.o | |
| [14:59] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis, though bzr has supported creating signatures since before 2.0 I think | |
| [15:00] <AuroraBorealis> so should i push my local branch over my remote one to get it to have the signatures? | |
| [15:00] <AuroraBorealis> since i did it on my local branch, it says that no changes were made | |
| [15:01] <jelmer_> I'm not sure if we fill in signatures yet, I think we just fetch the signature for a revision when we fetch the revision | |
| [15:03] <AuroraBorealis> and it seems that at least in 2.3.4, the verify signatures option went away | |
| [15:05] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis, there is a verify-signatures command in 2.4 IIUC | |
| [15:05] <AuroraBorealis> hmm | |
| [15:06] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis: the verify signatures option in 2.3.4 had been there for a while but wasn't actually implemented, which was why it was removed | |
| [15:06] <AuroraBorealis> ah. | |
| [15:06] <AuroraBorealis> so the entire signing thing needs some more work to actually be useful :3 | |
| [15:07] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis: you can use "bzr verify-signatures" today | |
| [15:07] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis: so it is useful, though there are some more improvements we should make | |
| [15:07] <AuroraBorealis> well i'm on linux and it hasn't upgraded xD | |
| [15:09] <jelmer_> it should be in oneiric | |
| [15:09] <AuroraBorealis> i appear to be in natty | |
| [15:13] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis: you can use the bzr PPA for 2.4.0 (should work on natty), or otherwise be patient for another two months | |
| [15:13] <AuroraBorealis> is the ppa this? https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive/ppa | |
| [15:14] <jelmer_> AuroraBorealis, yep | |
| [15:19] <Riddell> should I be worried that the test bzrlib.tests.test_setup.TestSetup.test_build_and_install is failing for me in trunk? | |
| [15:20] <vila> Riddell: locally or only on pqm ? | |
| [15:20] <Riddell> locally | |
| [15:20] <vila> then yes | |
| [15:20] <vila> and I feel your pain :-/ | |
| [15:20] <AuroraBorealis> and yay i made bzr crash | |
| [15:20] <Riddell> actually it might be due to my new install | |
| [15:21] <AuroraBorealis> and yeah, verify -signatures don't work :< | |
| [15:24] <AuroraBorealis> i guess i'll file a bug report, after my bagel | |
| [15:26] <Riddell> vila: yes it was just that I didn't have everything installed | |
| [15:27] <vila> Riddell: so it fails on on pqm now ? Missing dependency there ? | |
| [15:27] <vila> s/on on/only on/ | |
| [15:27] <Riddell> vila: no it only ever failed locally | |
| [15:27] <vila> ha cool | |
| [15:28] <vila> just out of curiosity what did you fix ? | |
| [15:30] <Riddell> vila: sudo apt-get build-dep bzr | |
| [15:31] <vila> ha, well, yeah ;) | |
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| [16:05] <jo-erlend> I've started working with bzr and I'm really loving it. But I'm a newbie t this, and VCS in general, and I'd like to learn how to actually work with it... I mean, I currently have one directory on my computers, called ~/devel/appname and an lp bzr repository that I push to. | |
| [16:06] <AuroraBorealis> and? :3 | |
| [16:07] <jo-erlend> and that's good, but I'm only using one branch. I'd now like to start experimenting more widely with my app, so I thought I'd setup different branches to work with, and then merge with a main branch, that in turn is pushed to lp from time to time. Is it simply a matter of using different directories, or are there other things to consider? | |
| [16:07] <AuroraBorealis> you have your main branch | |
| [16:07] <AuroraBorealis> and then you just branch from that | |
| [16:07] <AuroraBorealis> do stuff with it | |
| [16:07] <AuroraBorealis> and when you want to merge it back, merge the main one with the other one | |
| [16:08] <AuroraBorealis> so yeah pretty much the second branch will be a seperate folder inside the repo folder | |
| [16:09] <jo-erlend> ok, so instead of having my code in ~/devel/appname, I'd have it in ~/devel/appname/trunk, /testing, etc? And the ~/devel/appname directory would only contain branches? | |
| [16:10] <AuroraBorealis> usually appname is the repository | |
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| [16:10] <AuroraBorealis> trunk is the 'main deveopment branch' | |
| [16:10] <AuroraBorealis> and then testing can be a seperate branch where you are doing experimental stuff | |
| [16:10] <AuroraBorealis> then you can merge testing back into trunk and whatever | |
| [16:11] <jo-erlend> yes, that's what I meant in my question. What does that look like? | |
| [16:12] <jo-erlend> does it mean I'll have my code in appname and subdirectories of that directory will contain the branches? Or will other branches be in the same parent as the trunk? | |
| [16:15] <AuroraBorealis> appname is the repository, it stores revisions and stuff | |
| [16:15] <AuroraBorealis> and everything below that is a branch | |
| [16:16] <jo-erlend> ok, so it wouldn't make much sense for appname to be versioned? | |
| [16:17] <AuroraBorealis> well i'm just assuming that the folder appname is a repository | |
| [16:17] <jo-erlend> right. | |
| [16:17] <AuroraBorealis> so its not really versioned, it just holds branches | |
| [16:17] <jo-erlend> unless that requires additional setup. It's only a directory here. | |
| [16:17] <AuroraBorealis> you have to run bzr init-repo or create it in bazaar explorer | |
| [16:19] <AuroraBorealis> see: http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-guide/shared_repository_layouts.html?highlight=repository | |
| [16:19] <AuroraBorealis> and http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/latest/en/user-reference/repositories-help.html?highlight=shared%20repository | |
| [16:19] <jo-erlend> ok, and that is self contained so it doesn't matter if I change the name of the directory later? | |
| [16:20] <AuroraBorealis> the name of the repository or the branch? | |
| [16:20] <AuroraBorealis> i dont think it matters, because the actual information is in the .bzr directory in the repo / branches | |
| [16:21] <AuroraBorealis> but it will changes obviously the URI of the repo =P | |
| [16:21] <jo-erlend> :) | |
| [16:24] <jo-erlend> AuroraBorealis, great links. That's precisely what I was looking for :) | |
| [16:25] <AuroraBorealis> the thing about bazaar is that it supports multiple models | |
| [16:25] <AuroraBorealis> so you can do it like git does, or svn and whatnot | |
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| [18:35] <gdoubleu> Using bzr-svn here, and somehow I've got a file that bzr considers versioned but that doesn't exist in the svn repo | |
| [18:35] <gdoubleu> if I try to bzr remove the file, bzr ci, bzr dush, then I get a "SubversionException: ... path not found" error | |
| [18:36] <gdoubleu> any ideas on how this can be corrected? Can I safely add the file using svn and then bzr pull the change into the bzr repo? | |
| [18:39] <gdoubleu> On a related note, other than diff'ing an export from the bzr repo and svn repo, is there any way to check if there might be other files/contents out of sync between the bzr branch and the svn repo? | |
| [18:51] <jo-erlend> hmm. I had a branch on launchpad that I was working on .I then proposed a merge for upstream, and it was accepted. Now the branch is gone. Is that normal? | |
| [18:52] <jo-erlend> oh, it's just hidden. But is it a bad idea to keep working on that branch after it's been merged with upstream, or will that simply mark it as unmerged? | |
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| [19:35] <amaora> test | |
| [20:58] <sixstring> I've got bzr (client) setup just fine on one machine. But when I try to branch on a second machine, I get SSH key madness. Any idea how to make SSH or BZR happy? Do I need to copy my keys from one machine to another? | |
| [21:07] <sixstring> Apparently, you just scp them to the target machine, from ~/.ssh/ | |
| [23:22] <jelmer> gdoubleu: what version of bzr-svn are you using? | |
| [23:26] <poolie> hi jelmer | |
| [23:26] <jelmer> poolie: g'day! | |
| [23:26] <vila> hey poolie, jelmer ;) | |
| [23:27] <jelmer> hey vila | |
| [23:28] <jelmer> This is just wrong. when I get home on a Friday evening it ought to be quiet on IRC... | |
| [23:28] <fullermd> Maybe your calendar crashed. | |
| [23:28] <vila> ok, I'll mute myself ;) | |
| [23:28] <poolie> it's saturday morning, i'm at google working on the lca programme | |
| [23:28] <jelmer> poolie: I guess you're excused then; vila however... :-P | |
| [23:28] <vila> Oh, you went there too ? | |
| [23:29] <vila> jelmer: Me ? Can't have fun with the importer anymore ? | |
| [23:30] <jelmer> vila: :) | |
| [23:30] <vila> We need to record imports success instead of import failures: http://webnumbr.com/ubuntu-package-import-failures.from%282011-08-29%29 | |
| [23:31] <vila> This curve going down is not getting us enough positive feedback :-p | |