| [00:37] <valorie> that's very disappointing | |
| [00:38] <valorie> I did suspect something was wrong when they didn't hire you, Pendulum | |
| [00:38] <valorie> or make charlie-tca full-time a11y | |
| [00:38] <valorie> or something | |
| [01:32] <Pendulum> valorie: charlie-tca isn't a Canonical employee. TheMuso is and they've contracted work out to API, but that's it for people getting paid to work on a11y for Unity/Ubuntu as far as I know | |
| [01:33] <Pendulum> it's slightly more complicated in that I know a lot of the Unity devels who aren't specifically a11y have worked on aspects of it, but AFAIK there is no one being paid to coordinate/work on a11y fulltime | |
| [01:35] <TheMuso> One of the biggest problems with unity and a11y IMO is the constantly changing state of unity itself. | |
| [01:35] <TheMuso> Unity-2d has been better for the most part, since unity-2d uses QT, and QT a11y is coming along swimmingly. | |
| [01:35] <TheMuso> So there is no constantly changing frameworks underlying unity-2d to be affected. | |
| [01:36] <TheMuso> However, there are several bugs I filed against unity-2d for a11y issues that have yet to be fixed. | |
| [01:36] <valorie> are you working with fregl on those? | |
| [01:37] <TheMuso> valorie: They are not QT issues, they are to do with unity-2d itself. | |
| [01:37] <valorie> ah | |
| [01:37] <TheMuso> Personally, I feel I could focus much more on a11y if I was doing a11y full time, but that is currently not the case. | |
| [01:37] <valorie> I wish I had time to be more of an advocate/tester/etc. | |
| [01:38] <valorie> it's so important | |
| [01:39] <TheMuso> AlanBell: Oneiric has some new functionality in ubiquity that now allows us to launch profiles from the first installer screen. | |
| [01:39] <TheMuso> This works, but playing a sound at that screen still appears to be broken, something I need to fix. | |
| [01:39] <TheMuso> I also haven't widely announced it, and the orca install test instructions will need to be updated. | |
| [01:39] <TheMuso> Beta 2 should have a much better experience. | |
| [07:53] <AlanBell> TheMuso: so will it still display access.pcx in gfxboot and expect you to hit a key when you see it? | |
| [08:33] <TheMuso> AlanBell: None of that has changed. | |
| [08:33] <TheMuso> AlanBell: So I guess long term, we should completely ditch the accessibility options in gfxboot. | |
| [08:34] <AlanBell> so with the ubiquity stuff can you just put the disk in, leave it for sufficient time then hit a key to start orca? | |
| [08:35] <AlanBell> I don't mind a lack of a beep if it will sit there forever | |
| [08:35] <AlanBell> the problem is hitting a key in a small time window with no audio cue | |
| === API is now known as Guest88782 | |
| === Guest88782 is now known as apinheiro | |
| [18:49] <AlanBell> well my attempts to do the orca install are not going well | |
| [18:50] <AlanBell> it wouldn't start ubiquity properly, when selecting the screen reader profile | |
| [18:51] <AlanBell> now installing with eyes and will try just getting around the desktop with orca | |
| [22:51] <AlanBell> http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/c2h40a8 | |
| [22:51] <AlanBell> \o/ \o/ | |
| [23:02] <Pendulum> :) | |
| [23:06] * AlanBell should really go to bed now | |
| [23:06] <AlanBell> night all o/ | |