2011/09/25/#lubuntu.txt

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[08:38] <l33o> hi
[08:39] <bioterror> hi
[08:39] <l33o> ;)
[08:41] <pcman> hi
[08:41] <pcman> trying cmake now
[08:41] <l33o> i am here on lubuntu 11.10 and i cant find an option or menu to choose desktop background wallpaper.....is this a bug?
[08:43] <pcman> right click on the desktop
[08:43] <pcman> l33o: and you'll find it.
[08:44] <l33o> i did that, its gone i think
[08:45] <l33o> when i right click there is Obconfig and Reconfigure...but these wont offer me any background changes
[08:46] <KM0201> sounds like pcman isn't running
[08:46] <l33o> i changed background many times, but i guess now this isnt working because i cant find it anymore
[08:46] <l33o> just run pcman manually in shell?
[08:47] <pcman> l33o: try pcmanfm --profile lubuntu --desktop &
[08:47] <l33o> k...sec
[08:48] <l33o> i get this respone: [1] 2127
[08:55] <pcman> l33o: then right click on desktop
[08:55] <l33o> k
[08:55] <l33o> what next then?
[08:56] <l33o> Obconfigure or reconfigure?
[08:57] <pcman> l33o: oops
[08:57] <pcman> l33o: then I guess the file manager crashes
[08:57] <pcman> l33o: try pcmanfm --desktop-pref then
[08:57] <pcman> l33o: if nothing works, I guess the file manager crashed.
[08:58] <l33o> sec
[08:58] <l33o> thaaaank youuuuu veryyyy much :)))))
[08:58] <l33o> success!!!!
[08:59] <l33o> this is the menu, that is lost here somehow :)
[09:00] <pcman> l33o: actually there is a shortcut in applications menu/preferences
[09:00] <l33o> i cant find it anymore ...its gone
[09:00] <l33o> i found that many times before
[09:00] <pcman> l33o: and I guess you have enabled the "use desktop menu of window manager" option.
[09:01] <pcman> l33o: so pcmanfm always use the openbox desktop menu rather than its own.
[09:02] <l33o> aaaaa
[09:02] <l33o> where can i find this use desktop menu option ?
[09:03] <pcman> l33o: the pcmanfm --desktop-pref dialog.
[09:03] <l33o> aaa :)
[09:04] <l33o> yes, you are right
[09:04] <l33o> this is enabled, i did that some days ago
[09:04] <l33o> solved!
[09:04] <l33o> :)
[09:05] <l33o> thank you pcman
[09:05] <pcman> l33o: np
[09:05] <pcman> l33o: is the file manager buggy?
[09:05] <pcman> l33o: does it crash often?
[09:05] <l33o> no
[09:05] <l33o> mabye one time it crashed
[09:06] <l33o> but only for one sec...then the desktop rebuild and i canwork....no freeze or so
[09:06] <l33o> but i decided to use compiz with lubuntu so i can reload window manager very easyily
[09:06] <l33o> in case of some crashes or dissapearing of the window decorations ( happend one time)
[09:06] <pcman> l33o: ok
[09:07]  * pcman is only worried about the buggy file manager he wrote.
[09:07] <l33o> works very stable here ( old intel graphics laptop chipset)
[09:07] <l33o> works perfect
[09:07] <l33o> only for remocing usb stick safely i have to use the disc util
[09:07] <pcman> l33o: thanks
[09:07] <l33o> removing
[09:07] <l33o> thakn you
[09:07] <l33o> thank you
[09:08] <pcman> actually it's buggy.
[09:08]  * pcman doesn't have time to fix them yet.
[09:08] <l33o> no problem...i am using the disc utility and i can remove very safely
[09:09] <l33o> the file manager is working really stable here
[09:09] <l33o> using it alot
[09:09] <head_victim> pcman: don't be too worried, it works damn well.
[09:10] <l33o> there was a problem but its gone: sometimes when deleting something from the desktop everything was selected and deleted from the desktop
[09:10] <pcman> :)
[09:10] <l33o> but this bug is gone
[09:27] <l33o> sorry had to do a halt -p
[09:27] <l33o> menu was gone hehehe
[12:05] <sam_> Hi lubuntu broke my system. I would appricate help getting it back..
[12:05] <sam_> I did a fresh Natty install on this hardware http://pastebin.ca/2082686
[12:05] <sam_> I then installed lubuntu-desktop and dependencies just to give it a try.
[12:05] <sam_> Now I cannot log into gnome, it gives an error something like: "too many xserver?/xsesson? arguments (2)" after the gdm login screen.
[12:06] <sam_> I tried apt-get --purge remove lubuntu-desktop, but the xserver message persists, and I end up completely locked out of the machine, and have to re-install lubuntu-desktop from the command line in order to get a GUI back.
[12:06] <sam_> Anyone have any ideas
[12:07] <kaja> sam_: i know what's wrnog, but since i have never used ubuntu or gdm i donno how to fix it heh :p
[12:07] <kaja> sam_: if it's anything like a more 'vanilla' system, the solution lies in your ~/.xinitrc
[12:08] <kaja> sam_: basically there's an artifact in your gdm config telling it to start into your old DE AND LXDE
[12:09] <sam_> kaja, OK thanks
[12:09] <sam_> that is someting to go on
[12:09] <sam_> can i edit ~/.xinitrc or is it a system only file?
[12:10] <kaja> you may, but i suspect that isn't the solution because gdm does silly things
[12:10] <kaja> but yeah read through it and have a look
[12:11] <sam_> can i just use an alternitive to gdm? i seem to remember there is one?
[12:11] <sam_> or would apt-get --purge gdm + reinstall be worth a try?
[12:15] <sam_> might just try xdm
[12:19] <kaja> meh, i dunno. i don't even know what the point of gdm is tbh
[12:20] <stlsaint> gdm for gnome
[12:20] <stlsaint> lxdm for lubuntu, etc etc
[13:23] <oregano4> Hello@all, i think it should beonlyalittle Question, how to change the login backgroundimmage?
[13:33] <jayP> Hello
[13:34] <jayP> does anyone know how to change keyring password on lubuntu?
[13:36] <jayP> does anyone know how to change keyring password on lubuntu?
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[14:26] <silverarrow> is there a way to fix grub in lubuntu?
[14:27] <KM0201> silverarrow: of course
[14:27] <KM0201> you'll need a live cd/usb
[14:29] <silverarrow> I was booted in live cd just a few minutes ago
[14:29] <silverarrow> I could not find any grub related apps
[14:29] <KM0201> it has to be done via command line
[14:29] <KM0201> hang on
[14:30] <KM0201> silverarrow: follow the "chroot" section.   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[14:32] <KM0201> silverarrow: actually the part right above that, looks a lot easier
[14:32] <KM0201> if you want to do that under "copy partition files"
[14:32] <silverarrow> thanks
[14:33] <KM0201> but either of those will work
[14:33] <silverarrow> I get to "grub line bash editing is supported ... press tab for commands
[14:33] <KM0201> yeah... you need to boot a live cd/usbto run those commands
[14:34] <KM0201> silverarrow: there's also a "purge and reinstall" section on that doc.. it looks pretty easy as welll (actually i think thats what i'd do)
[14:43] <silverarrow> I am in deep ....
[14:44] <KM0201> whats wrong?
[14:45] <KM0201> restoring grub is not that difficult.
[14:45] <silverarrow> I shall just have to go for it, ....down for reboot
[14:45] <KM0201> well whats the..
[14:46] <KM0201> hm, guess he didn't want to stick around for clarification
[14:47] <bioterror> !grub2 | KM0201
[14:47] <ubot5> KM0201: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[14:47] <bioterror> KM0201, next time use that ;)
[14:47] <KM0201> bioterror: i didn't know ubottu was alive here, but thats the link i gave him anyway
[14:58] <bioterror> KM0201, but if you dont give him exact commands, he will say "are you messing with me?"
[14:58] <KM0201> i know how to use ubottu...
[14:59] <pip__> Is there a bug open for a menu error when using lxpanel located at the top of the screen at all?
[14:59] <bioterror> KM0201, I mean mr. arrow ;)
[14:59] <KM0201> oh really?
[15:00] <KM0201> i've not helped him all that much, so don't know much about him, but he seems to have a lot of problems
[15:01] <bioterror> pip__, you've checked launchpad?
[15:02] <pip__> I am doing so now bioterror
[15:26] <pip__> it's already been reported & confirmed :)
[15:31] <KM0201> i guess he just wanted to come here and tell us :)
[15:31] <KM0201> i wonder if silver ever got his problem fixed
[15:59] <mh> how can I apply my keyboard layout system-wide?
[16:02] <mh> and second question, can I enable  window snapping like I do in unity?
[16:10] <KM0201> mh: not to my knowledge on the window snapping.
[16:10] <mh>  KM0201, thanks
[16:12] <mh> what about the keyboard layout? it resets each time I reboot
[16:15] <mh> by the way, I have a question about the BIOS. Do you know where I can try to ask in the IRC?
[16:17] <KM0201> no idea on the BIOS>
[16:17] <KM0201> as for keyboard layout...
[16:18] <KM0201> open a terminal and type this.. "gksudo lxkeymap"   and when the utility opens, make your changes and apply them.
[16:18] <KM0201> see if that changes it permanently
[16:20] <mh> okay KM0201, I will reboot
[16:20] <KM0201> ij
[16:20] <KM0201> ok
[16:20] <ubuntu_> hi
[16:20] <mh> but I am not very optimistic... I will let you know
[16:20] <KM0201> ok..
[16:20] <KM0201> ubuntu_: welcome
[16:21] <ubuntu_> I was given a  link to a grub repair, but i cannot seem to find it now that I am in live cd
[16:22] <KM0201> !grub2
[16:22] <ubot5> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[16:22] <KM0201> ubuntu_: probably the second link
[16:22] <KM0201> actually, its probably the first
[16:22] <ubuntu_> thanks
[16:23] <KM0201> the second link has some instructions for it also though
[16:23] <ubuntu_> : )
[16:24] <mh> nope.
[16:24] <KM0201> hmm
[16:24] <KM0201> must be a configuration file somewhere
[16:24] <mh> I cannot set it to dvorak by default...
[16:26] <ubuntu_> if I understand it correctly, there is a boot repair in the live lubuntu CD, and which also seem to be recommened ?
[16:26] <KM0201> yes, you need to use a live cd to repair grub.
[16:27] <ubuntu_> I am in live cd now
[16:27] <ubuntu_> it says install  boot repair,  but not much more
[16:28] <ubuntu_> from terminal? package manager?
[16:28] <KM0201> ubuntu_: either one... package manager will probably be easier
[16:29] <KM0201> mh: sudo nano /etc/default/keyboard
[16:29] <KM0201> the key there, is  "XKBLAYOUT=us"
[16:29] <KM0201> the problem is, i don't know what you replace "us" with, to make it dvorak
[16:30] <ubuntu_> I cannot find it it package manager
[16:30] <KM0201> ubuntu_: hang on a sec
[16:31] <KM0201> you're connected to the internet, right?
[16:31] <mh> oh thankssss
[16:31] <mh> thanks KM0201
[16:31] <KM0201> mh: no problem
[16:31] <KM0201> after you put whatever you want there (in place of US)... hit Ctrl + X  to save
[16:31] <KM0201> then reboot, and see if it works
[16:31] <ubuntu_> you usually set keyboard under: menu-preferances-keyboard & mouse
[16:32] <mh> thanks, I will use emacs
[16:32] <KM0201> ubuntu_: it seems to be a known bug, that it doesn't save w/ the GUI tool (at least googling turned up lots of hits)
[16:33] <KM0201> ubuntu_: do you only have one hard drive?
[16:33] <mh> oh, but it appears to be okay
[16:33] <KM0201> well yeah, but.. if you change that configuration file, it should work
[16:33] <mh> XKBMODEL="pc105"
[16:33] <mh> XKBLAYOUT="us"
[16:33] <mh> XKBVARIANT="dvorak-intl"
[16:33] <mh> XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch"
[16:34] <KM0201> mh: did you change it prior to looking at it?
[16:34] <ubuntu_> ?
[16:34] <ubuntu_> not me
[16:34] <mh> well, yeah, through the gui though
[16:34] <KM0201> that's why its currently correct
[16:34] <KM0201> doesn't matter
[16:34] <KM0201> the GUI is just a front for that file really.
[16:34] <KM0201> try this..
[16:35] <KM0201> do something to that file (like type a letter then delete it)
[16:35] <KM0201> then save it.(make sure you're root)
[16:35] <KM0201> and then reboot and see if the hcanges take lace
[16:35] <KM0201> ubuntu_: do you only have 1 hard drive?
[16:36] <mh> okay thanks
[16:36] <ubuntu_> no
[16:36] <ubuntu_> I mean, I have an usb connected one for storage
[16:36] <mh> okay, let's sudo reboot now
[16:36] <ubuntu_> usb sata in  a caddie
[16:37] <KM0201> ok, i was referring to internal drives
[16:39] <KM0201> ubuntu_: wait, i see now...    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:39] <KM0201> go there
[16:39] <ubuntu_> lost wifi connection
[16:39] <KM0201> ok.
[16:39] <ubuntu_> am I still here?
[16:39] <KM0201> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:39] <KM0201> go to that website
[16:40] <ubuntu_> that's where I am, and trying to understand
[16:40] <mh> no luck.
[16:40] <KM0201> ok,... you're on a lubuntu live cd, right?
[16:40] <KM0201> sorry mh, i'm at a loss on that issue.
[16:40] <ubuntu_> yes
[16:40] <ubuntu_> 11.04
[16:40] <KM0201> mh: maybe bioterror or phillw will know
[16:41] <KM0201> ubuntu_: open a terminal
[16:41] <ubuntu_> yes
[16:41] <KM0201> paste this line into the terminal...   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[16:41] <KM0201> let it add the repository
[16:41] <KM0201> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && boot-repair
[16:42] <KM0201> then paste that line, and let boot-repair install
[16:42] <ubuntu_> it is installing !!
[16:43] <ubuntu_> great
[16:43] <ubuntu_> I must have made some pasting error
[16:43] <KM0201> ok
[16:43] <mh> another question; I am the only user here and I don't want the login window when I boot. how can I disable this?
[16:44] <ubuntu_> I am a lubuntu user?
[16:44] <KM0201> hmm,
[16:44] <KM0201> yes.
[16:44] <KM0201> why?
[16:44] <KM0201> i'm assuming you are anyway
[16:46] <KM0201> mh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM
[16:46] <mh> I changed my account type from custom to administrator to see if it helps with my layout issue
[16:46] <KM0201> ubuntu_: did it install ok?
[16:46] <ubuntu_> yes, and I started it
[16:46] <KM0201> mh: i bet that will fix your problem
[16:46] <ubuntu_> do I just run the simple repair ?
[16:47] <KM0201> ubuntu_: i would try that first
[16:47] <ubuntu_> if I make a boot info summary, it will not interfere ?
[16:47] <KM0201> ubuntu_: i wouldn't think so, but..  don't know, i've never really used that utility
[16:48] <ubuntu_> recommended repair is running
[16:48] <ubuntu_> sda1 is always internal?
[16:48] <KM0201> no, not necessarily, but usually
[16:49] <ubuntu_> oh no
[16:49] <KM0201> ?
[16:49] <phillw> mh: use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_to_enable_automatic_logon_in_LXDM
[16:49] <ubuntu_> I didn't unplug my usb hd
[16:49] <KM0201> ubuntu_: i was just thinking that
[16:50] <KM0201> well, hopefully it won't mess w/ it
[16:50] <mh> thanks phillw
[16:50] <ubuntu_> it's blinking something worryingly
[16:50] <phillw> sorry for the echo, KM ;)
[16:50] <KM0201> it happens
[16:50] <ubuntu_> I hope any error is repairable
[16:51] <KM0201> if it's not, this will be an abject lesson to disconnect unecessary drives while tryign to fix a drive
[16:51] <KM0201> (but it's probably OK)
[16:52] <ubuntu_> I'm letting the process run through, it might be all right
[16:52] <ubuntu_> it takes several minutes it seems
[16:52] <ubuntu_> doing a thorough job
[16:53] <ubuntu_> it would be majorly stupid to have grub on a usb
[16:54] <KM0201> ubuntu_: not really, it's not an uncommonthing for people to do.
[16:54] <ubuntu_> I am not alone ?  : )
[16:55] <ubuntu_> the boot repair is a nice on
[16:55] <ubuntu_> one
[16:55] <ubuntu_> a program that runs its self
[16:56] <KM0201> ubuntu_: as long as it works
[16:57] <ubuntu_> yes
[16:57] <ubuntu_> great for not experts
[16:58] <KM0201> as long as it works..
[16:58] <ubuntu_> trying to fix stuff in file manager and root is major
[16:58] <KM0201> naa, you just gotta get the hang of it
[16:58] <KM0201> it's easy after you've done it a while.
[17:00] <ubuntu_> it feels like the big confusion
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[17:01] <silverarrow> I can now reboot
[17:01] <KM0201> ok
[17:01] <KM0201> i figured that was you
[17:02] <silverarrow> sorry, at first the nick change lagged
[17:03] <KM0201> no problem
[17:03] <silverarrow> I'm doing the summary too
[17:04] <silverarrow> lubuntu is nicer than puppy
[17:04] <silverarrow> desktop is more soli
[17:04] <silverarrow> not so flimsy
[17:04] <silverarrow> maybe I can  get the lubuntu desktop in puppy linux
[17:04] <mh> nothing worked
[17:05] <KM0201> silver why would you do that?
[17:05] <mh> change keyboard layout did not work, disable login screen did not work
[17:06] <KM0201> what..?
[17:06] <KM0201> i think you're doing something wrong, are you editing thos efiles, and saving them, as root?
[17:09] <silverarrow> editing keyboard should be the easiest thing
[17:13] <KM0201> lol, i love his little wise ass comments
[17:13] <KM0201> he can't find his rear end from a hole in the ground, and then talks about how easy things should be..lol
[17:17] <mh> I do everything with sudo
[17:18] <KM0201> well, thats just as silly
[17:19] <kvarley> what's the current progress on Arm builds of LUbuntu? :)
[17:20] <mh> KM0201: I mean everything that was involved in this process...
[17:20] <KM0201> yeah, i know.. :)
[17:23] <phillw> kvarley: the latest info I can find is at http://www.ubuntugeek.com/ubuntu-11-10-beta-2-oneiric-ocelot-released.html
[17:24] <mh> KM0201: can you please repeat the file that is behind the keyboard layout?
[17:24] <KM0201> mh: /etc/default/keyboard
[17:26] <silverarrow> hi
[17:26] <silverarrow> it worked
[17:26] <silverarrow> all fine
[17:27] <silverarrow> thought I have no idea where the grub wet
[17:27] <silverarrow> went*
[17:28] <KM0201> my guess is, you did something to it.
[17:30] <silverarrow> grub
[17:30] <silverarrow> hmm
[17:30] <silverarrow> |grub
[17:31] <silverarrow> how do you get the grub info?
[17:31] <Unit193> !grub2 | silverarrow
[17:31] <ubot5> silverarrow: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[17:31] <silverarrow> thanks
[17:39] <mmhh> I am mh. Gosh, I cannot access Lxkeymap now
[17:40] <mmhh> probably since I changed some stuff in that keyboard file
[17:41] <silverarrow> not that is not the grub
[17:41] <silverarrow> unit193?
[17:42] <phillw> silverarrow: there is some background reading on grub2 along with some notes at http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5
[17:42] <mmhh> can anyone tell me what do you have inside etc/default/keyboard? how are those four lines?
[17:43] <silverarrow> thanks
[17:43] <silverarrow> wait
[17:43] <silverarrow> root?
[17:44] <silverarrow> nothing in a way
[17:44] <phillw> mmhh: http://pastebin.com/DeV10c4R
[17:44] <mmhh> thanks phillw
[17:45] <Unit193> mmhh: http://paste.ubuntu.com/696787/
[17:45]  * Unit193 USA
[17:45] <phillw> mine is an extended kbd with UK layout
[17:45] <phillw> (windows key on it)
[17:45] <mmhh> thanks Unit193
[17:46] <silverarrow> http://imagebin.org/174013
[17:46] <phillw> Unit193: cool, my LVM guest additions are now working with lubuntu on my VM :)
[17:46] <silverarrow> oh a bit late there
[17:46] <Unit193> phillw: Awesome! So still testing LSC?
[17:46] <phillw> Unit193: indeed. I have the latest one on. Very impressed with it :)
[17:47] <Unit193> phillw: The one in bzr should be newer
[17:47] <phillw> bbl - dinner time!
[17:48] <Unit193> Have some great grub
[17:49] <silverarrow> how do I check where grub went?
[17:49] <Unit193> Where grub went? Did it walk off your computer?
[17:50] <silverarrow> not far from
[17:50] <Unit193> You have to be a little more clear
[17:50] <silverarrow> I ran a grub repair, and I am a bit worried it went on my external usb connected SATA hd
[17:50] <Unit193> check /etc/default/grub for config items
[17:51] <mh> stupid question: how can I put a shortcut in the menu bar?
[17:51] <Unit193> mh: Ah, it's handily in the FAQs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides
[17:52] <silverarrow> looks like it is in the right place
[17:53] <mh> thanks Unit193
[17:54] <silverarrow> thanks for the grub help
[18:06] <mh> hey, if I choose Default instead of Lubuntu I get Xsession: unable to launch Lubuntu xsession, failing back etc. How can I solve this?
[18:06] <mh> (In the login)
[18:07] <Unit193> In LXDM, the session that's supposed to be used is Lubuntu
[18:07] <mh> Unit193: instead of Default?
[18:08] <Unit193> Exactly, see if that works
[18:08] <mh> it works, but I assume that this error is connected to the fact that Lubuntu is not saving my keyboard settings when I boot
[18:09] <mh> when I reboot
[18:09] <mh> it also always showing the login screen, even when I set not to show it
[18:11] <Unit193> Set not to show it in /etc/lxdm/default.conf ?
[18:11] <mh> yep
[18:12] <mh> autologin=mh
[18:13] <mh> session=/usr/bin/startlubuntu
[18:17] <mh> if I logout, the keyboard settings remain
[18:17] <mh> but they dissapear as soon as I reboot
[18:17] <pip__> what's the little button that gives one shudown options etc called?
[18:18] <pip__> I've managed to delete it from my panel & would like to put it back....
[18:20] <mh> the strange thing is that if I comment everything in /etc/default/keyboard, change stuff in lxkeymap, nothing changes in  /etc/default/keyboard . Even after reboot, everything is still commented
[18:21] <mh> by the way, I have chosen lxdm instead of gdm. maybe this is the reason?
[18:21] <mh> (I started with ubuntu and changed to lubuntu)
[18:39] <neofita> hello
[18:41] <neofita>  I want to install the x86_64 Lubuntu inside a luks partition which in turn is installed inside a group of HD in RAID5 configuration. Made with a RAID5 controller Intel ICH10R
[18:42] <neofita> but the installation often freezes or ends but the system does not start
[18:45] <neofita> va bene lascio perdere
[18:45] <neofita> okay I give up
[19:23] <mh> I would like to run an app when lubuntu starts, how can I do that?
[19:23] <mh> actually I want to add a line
[19:23] <mh> setxkbmap dvorak :)
[19:28] <mh> anyone?
[19:29] <jmarsden> mh: If it needs to run as a startup script, add it to /etc/rc.local .  If it needs to run at GUI logon, see the FAQ for autostarting apps...
[19:30] <jmarsden> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/FAQ/Guides#How_I_can_autostart_a_program_when_logging_in_to_Desktop
[19:34] <mh> thanks jmarsden
[19:35] <jmarsden> mh: You're welcome.
[20:08] <cjohnston> phillw: are you around?
[20:08] <phillw> cjohnston: I'm lurking :)
[20:09] <cjohnston> I'm wondering if my issue with lubuntu booting up has to do with the fact that those nvidia drivers are having trouble installing
[20:10] <cjohnston> I get a crash when it tries to install.. I'm trying to find the bug that was reported by apport last time
[20:10] <phillw> cjohnston: as I don't run on nvidia, I'm not really the best person to ask. I'm sure one of the support team has experience of them.
[20:11] <cjohnston> Gotcha
[20:54] <neighborlee> curious..does lubuntu have a decent installer similar to anaconda, whereby if you have windows7 and need to do paritition but are a naive windows user, that it guides you at least , or is this guidance in the self teach arena ? ;)
[21:03] <mh> "xsession:unable to launch ubuntu x session"
[21:04] <mh> and gives me lxde instead of lubuntu
[21:04] <m6locks> neighborlee: never had to do any kind of repartitioning, but yes, the installer was graphical and pretty good one
[21:04] <mh> it happens whenever I reboot
[21:04] <mh> any help on this?
[21:04] <mh> this happens if I use lxdm. I have no problems with gdm
[21:05] <mh> should I use gdm instead of lxdm?
[21:08] <phillw> neighborlee: the ubiquity installer that the ubuntu family use will happily install side by side with windows, Lubuntu uses the same system.
[21:10] <phillw> mh: Instead of "startx" try "sudo service lxdm start". That should give you the actual Lubuntu DE instead of standard LXDM.
[21:11] <mh> phillw: where? I got that error from startx when I boot
[21:11] <phillw> neighborlee: have a read of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[21:12] <phillw> mh: does issuing the command to start lxdm work when startx dies?
[21:13] <mh> it goes to lxde desktop
[21:14] <mh> it shows an lxde desktop, with the lxde wallpaper etc. not the lubuntu one
[21:15] <phillw> mh: okies, then we can try to start lubuntu instead. I just wanted to see if we could get a desktop running :)
[21:15] <Unit193> How about startlubuntu?
[21:15] <phillw> Unit193: one step at a time, my good friend :D
[21:17] <mh> phillw:  I can start lubuntu by logging out and choosing lubuntu
[21:17] <mh> but it won't save when I reboot
[21:18] <mh> and I get the same error
[21:18] <mh> unless I switch to gdm
[21:18] <mh> so I will stick to gdm. unless there is any reason for not doing this???
[21:19] <phillw> mh: do you have both gdm and lxdm installed?
[21:22] <mh> no, I just removed lxdm
[21:25] <mh> phillw: is it okay to stick with gdm?
[21:26] <phillw> if you want gnome, then fine. one of the ideas behind lxdm was to reduce the resources needed to run a system. The raison d'etre for Lubuntu :)
[21:31] <mh> so is more consuming for my everyday computing to use gdm than lxdm?
[21:32] <phillw> gdm uses more resources than lxdm
[21:32] <mh> is gdm running all the time or is it only that login screen I get?
[21:33] <mh> sorry for stupid questions
[21:33] <Unit193> It's going to stay running
[21:34] <phillw> mh: gdm will remain, have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu it does explain a bit more about things and how to 'cleanly' switch.
[21:35] <phillw> mh: In all honesty, I'd really suggest you make a seperate /home partition - that way, come what ever you do, your data is safe (unless you nuke the entire drive!).
[21:36] <phillw> mh: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[21:37] <mh> okay, thanks
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[21:47] <neighborlee> phillw, ok ty for info..sorry was away downstairs but got it. ;)
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