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=== Kamilion|ZNC is now known as Kamilion |
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[07:55] <Loder> Hi there. Is anyone around who could help me with some performance issues/questions in Lubuntu? |
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[07:58] <Loder> Here is a report of my system specs: http://pastehtml.com/view/cij0kq2im.html |
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[07:58] <Loder> I'm wondering if I should expect this system to capably run standard definition youtube videos, and to be able to play flash games on Lubuntu 11.10. I am also wondering if upgrading to 12.04 or 12.10 would improve or decrease performance. |
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[07:59] <Loder> I also have no sound at the moment, and I believe I may be lacking a proper graphics driver. Additional drivers does not list anything, and I'm not familiar enough with this operating system to take it much further without help |
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[08:00] <redderhs> i'd say yes, you should be able to play sd youtube vids, and play flash games. |
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[08:01] <redderhs> i don't believe you'd see too much of a performance increase between 12.04 to 12.10 unless a driver update related to your system had been applied.. |
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[08:02] <Loder> I tried Xubuntu 12.04 previously, which ran worse |
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[08:02] <Loder> And had a lot of graphical issues |
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[08:03] <redderhs> From my experiences Lubuntu ran better than Xubuntu. |
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[08:03] <Loder> At the moment, youtube videos are very choppy and facebook games are very difficult to play |
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[08:03] <Loder> Do you have any ideas on how I might achieve better performance? |
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[08:04] <Loder> Or how I might perhaps get a better graphics driver? (The way some things are loading visually just seems like a display driver issue based on my experience, but I can't be certain) |
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[08:04] <redderhs> Which webbrowser are you using? Did you download the Flash Plugin from Adobe's page? |
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[08:04] <Loder> I checked the box to include third party software, and assumed that that would have downloaded it |
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[08:04] <Loder> I assume that I have it, since I am able to watch youtube videos |
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[08:04] <Loder> But maybe not the latest version |
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[08:05] <redderhs> that should be the same exact build iirc. |
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[08:05] <redderhs> if there were graphic updates for your card, it would appear as an update for anything else. |
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[08:06] <redderhs> via update manager |
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[08:06] <Loder> So there isn't perhaps some sort of legacy driver or something that I would have to manually acquire? |
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[08:06] <Loder> It just seems like this system is not performing as well as it should |
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[08:09] <redderhs> I wouldn't know if there were a legacy driver or not; according to your page the module "i915Intel Graphics" was loaded. perhaps someone else may chime in on your issues soon. |
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[08:09] <Loder> Alright, thanks. Maybe the integrated graphics has been installed correctly then |
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[08:10] <redderhs> are you most familiar with windows? if so, what resolution did you run under on there and did youtube videos and flash playback fine on there? |
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[08:11] <Loder> About the resolution, I have lowered it a lot now. I had already done that but it seems to be defaulting to the one that's listed on my specs page by default |
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[08:11] <Loder> And yes, I am a certified A+ professional with a lot of experience with windows |
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[08:11] <Loder> I'm just brand new to linux basically |
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[08:11] <redderhs> Ah ok. safe to assume no performance increase with lowering resolution? |
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[08:11] <Loder> It seems a little better actually |
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[08:12] <redderhs> how old is this pc? onboard video? |
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[08:12] <Loder> The resolution was probably about as high as it is now, and in windows this machine was able to run youtube videos |
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[08:12] <Loder> And facebook games were not great |
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[08:12] <Loder> Probably about the same, actually |
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[08:12] <Loder> I was hoping that I would see better performance in a light linux distribution. I'm going to give this machine to a coworker for her nephew to play facebook games on |
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[08:13] <Loder> And yes, the graphics are onboard |
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[08:13] <Loder> It's a very old machine |
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[08:13] <Loder> Bought in 2005 I think |
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[08:14] <redderhs> i'd imagine that, in terms of what the gpu can do, it should be equal or slightly better on linux |
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[08:14] <Loder> Yeah, I was hoping for slightly better |
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[08:14] <redderhs> you should see mostly an increase in the amount of ram free as a big plus. |
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[08:15] <Loder> I believe facebook games used to run a bit choppy |
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[08:15] <Loder> I was hoping that the slight choppiness would smooth out in linux |
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[08:15] <Loder> Yeah, RAM certainly doesn't seem to be an issue |
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[08:15] <redderhs> the system overall in terms of execution of software should be better too. |
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[08:15] <Loder> It boots and shuts down much better |
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[08:15] <Loder> I can open a lot of tabs without issue |
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[08:16] <Loder> I just wish I could squeeze enough performance out of this machine to accomplish what it's intended for |
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[08:16] <Loder> Do you have any idea what the bottleneck might be? |
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[08:16] <Loder> I'm not sure it would be the garbage celeron CPU or the onboard graphics |
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[08:16] <Loder> if it* |
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[08:17] <redderhs> let me take a look at the onboard |
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[08:17] <Loder> K |
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[08:18] <redderhs> what model number is the pc? |
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[08:19] <redderhs> nvm i see it in the paste html |
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[08:19] <redderhs> Dimension-2400 |
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[08:19] <Loder> Yup |
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[08:20] <Loder> While you're here, is there a way to open a terminal window at the location that's in the foreground of the GUI? |
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[08:20] <Loder> In order to easily run commands from the required directory without having to cd a whole bunch? |
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[08:22] <redderhs> pretty sure there's a way to do it, not fully sure. |
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[08:22] <Loder> K |
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[08:26] <Loder> Any idea what to do about my sound not working, by the way? |
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[08:28] <redderhs> its kinda tough to say if its the gpu or cpu |
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[08:28] <redderhs> this link helped me with sound. http://askubuntu.com/questions/106224/no-sound-after-lubuntu-installation |
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[08:29] <redderhs> i installed pulseaudio and pavucontrol |
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[08:29] <redderhs> that allowed me to utilize the taskbars audio tray icon. |
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[08:29] <Loder> K thanks I'll give that a try |
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[08:30] <redderhs> np |
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[08:30] <Loder> Sound did not work in Xubuntu either, for the record |
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[08:30] <Loder> And in Ubuntu I'll never know, since all I got was a wallpaper after installing.. haha |
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[08:32] <redderhs> that may have had something to do with Unity and the older onboard video |
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[08:32] <Loder> Yeah |
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[08:32] <redderhs> but i'd imagine an error message should have arose |
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[08:32] <Loder> So for output devices, all I have is dummy output |
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[08:32] <Loder> Doesn't seem like I have a driver |
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[08:34] <redderhs> you tried the pulse audio and pavucontrol? |
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[08:34] <Loder> Yup |
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[08:34] <Loder> And that's all that's listed in pulse audio |
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[08:36] <redderhs> shouldn't you be looking under input? |
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[08:36] <Loder> I believe that would be a microphone |
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[08:36] <Loder> Nothing there at any rate |
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[08:37] <redderhs> yeah you're probably right. i'm too tired for this lol. |
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[08:38] <Loder> Haha |
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[08:38] <redderhs> i think that link would be very useful for other things to try |
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[08:38] <Loder> A terminal command to list soundcards says none found |
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[08:39] <redderhs> hopefully someone else would be more helpful to you than i within some time. |
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[08:39] <Loder> I feel like this is a driver problem |
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[08:39] <Loder> The system does not see the audio controller at all |
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[08:40] <redderhs> did any distribution of linux give you sound before? |
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[08:40] <redderhs> besides lu and xubuntu |
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[08:41] <Loder> Only tried Xubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu 11.10 |
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[08:41] <Loder> Well the first thing that I tried was Ubuntu 12.10 |
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[08:41] <Loder> I did not get any sounds, I suppose maybe I would have heard a logon sound or something |
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[08:41] <Loder> If it had been working |
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[08:42] <Loder> Though I only got as far as a wallpaper and a terminal window |
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[08:43] <redderhs> one other thing to do.. |
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[08:43] <redderhs> is to make sure the sound is enabled in the bios and to maybe match up your onboard sound with this: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main |
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[08:43] <Loder> You know, the previous users of this had a dedicated soundcard installed, but I assumed it was only to accommodate their 7.1 system |
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[08:43] <Loder> But maybe they installed it because the onboard audio failed |
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[08:44] <Loder> And the BIOS settings are good unfortunately |
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[08:44] <Loder> I wouldn't have a clue what the name of the onboard sound would be |
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[08:44] <Loder> But maybe I should postpone the sound thing until I ask them about it tomorrow |
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[08:44] <Loder> It might just be dead on a hardware level |
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[08:46] <redderhs> if you find out the model of the mobo, you should be able to find out specific details from there using google by typing in the model # of the mobo |
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[08:46] <Loder> So in your opinion, would you say that a Core 2 duo system @ ~2.0GHz with 2GB of RAM would be more than capable of running the latest Lubuntu or Xubuntu kernels? |
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[08:46] <Loder> Capably enough to watch youtube videos and play facebook games with no issues? |
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[08:47] <redderhs> yes, there should be absolutely no issues with any basic usage |
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[08:48] <Loder> K |
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[08:48] <Loder> And woah, I just got some weird graphical glitches |
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[08:48] <Loder> Black screen for couple seconds, then my IRC tab got separated to a different window |
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[08:49] <Loder> Had blocks of screen loading all over the place individually |
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[08:49] <Loder> This is the type of thing that was happening in xubuntu as well |
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[08:49] <redderhs> no idea if this is related.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746497 |
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[08:51] <Loder> Looks like it |
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[08:51] <redderhs> perhaps you dont have an i915 in this system and this module is getting loaded for some reason.. off guess. |
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[08:51] <Loder> Seems like I may be SOL with this machine though |
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[08:51] <Loder> Well, I have another system with almost identical specs kicking around |
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[08:51] <Loder> Maybe I'll just give that one a shot tomorrow |
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[08:51] <redderhs> if you can idle maybe hang out and see what someone else thinks. |
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[08:52] <redderhs> but i need to get some sleep. I wish you luck with your issue. |
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[08:52] <redderhs> issues* |
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[08:52] <Loder> Can't idle because I need to plug the regular computer back into this monitor for the morning, or I'm going to have some angry people.. haha |
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[08:52] <Loder> I will check back tomorrow though |
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[08:52] <Loder> Thanks for the help |
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=== cdoublejj_ is now known as cdoublejj |
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[11:54] <Neverminder> hello all |
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[11:54] <Neverminder> someone (maybe) can help me with puppy? |
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[11:54] <Neverminder> im running it live from usb |
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[11:55] <Neverminder> i want to install it |
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[11:55] <Neverminder> but when installer starts, |
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[11:55] <Neverminder> and ask me for image file |
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[11:55] <Neverminder> i point it to /dev/sdb1 (usb stick) |
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[11:55] <Neverminder> it cant see it |
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[11:55] <Neverminder> and wants me to mount again |
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[12:40] <kingfisher64> is setting up samba shares the same on lubuntu as ubuntu. I'm assuming it is. If so I was planning to follow http://www.unixmen.com/howto-install-and-configure-samba-share-in-ubuntu/ instructions |
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[14:03] <holstein> kingfisher64: should be the same, exepct for the nautilus parts |
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[14:37] <adytza23> hello |
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[14:37] <adytza23> i have a problem |
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[14:37] <adytza23> my wireless connection on asus eeepc 1015bx keeps conecting and disconecting |
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[14:37] <adytza23> what should i do? |
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[14:42] <holstein> adytza23: i blacklisted the open module and installed the other |
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[14:42] <holstein> !broadcom |
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[14:42] <ubottu> Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx |
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[14:42] <holstein> 02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01) |
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[14:43] <holstein> https://sites.google.com/site/mtrons/howtos/eeepc-1015pn is what i referenced mostly, assuming that is the same wifi hardware |
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[14:43] <holstein> if not, i would do the same.. try a different driver.. |
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[14:44] <adytza23> my laptop has Atheros AW-NE785H wireless card |
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[14:45] <adytza23> and it keeps conecting and discoencting |
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[14:45] <adytza23> :( |
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[14:45] <holstein> you can always try the windows drivers with ndisgtk |
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[14:45] <holstein> adytza23: i would test with different access points |
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[14:47] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2035007 |
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[14:47] <holstein> hmmm.... |
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[17:01] <kingfisher64> was following this tut (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623346&highlight=samba) holstein on lubuntu - win 7 sharing. I basically want to backup my laptop to desktop. Done what was suggested but win 7 isn't picking up lubuntu share and vice versa. Do you have any suggestions? Many thanks |
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[17:01] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install openssh-server |
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[17:01] <bioterror> from windows: install winscp and use that to move files |
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[17:14] <kingfisher64> right bioterror, i'll look into openssh-server. I use http://www.bitvise.com/index client. Quicker than winscp. |
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[17:16] <kingfisher64> thanks |
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[17:23] <kingfisher64> bioterror++ |
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[19:05] <Zuperman> hello, i need help |
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[19:05] <Zuperman> i messed up with xrandr |
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[19:05] <Zuperman> and suddenly my system fonts become too small |
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[19:05] <Zuperman> i can vearly read |
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[19:05] <Zuperman> *bearly |
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[19:05] <Zuperman> just chrome fonts are ok |
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[19:06] <Zuperman> terminal, menus |
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[19:06] <Zuperman> all fonts are 6 px i think |
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[19:06] <Zuperman> please, save me, i don't want to reinstall |
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[19:06] <Zuperman> i just installed new system |
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[19:07] <Zuperman> *barely |
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[19:07] <Zuperman> lol |
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[19:13] <Zuperman> anyone? |
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[19:13] <Unit193> Zuperman: Install arandr or lxrandr and undo whatever you did. |
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[19:13] <Unit193> Or, open the preferences or system tools then "Display" |
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[19:13] <Zuperman> yes? |
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[19:14] <Zuperman> no, general resolution is ok |
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[19:14] <Zuperman> just fonts are small |
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[19:56] <Zuperman> hello, i have this output when i try to sudo X -configure |
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[19:56] <Zuperman> number of detected screens does not match number of detected devices |
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[19:56] <Zuperman> i have only one monitor... and graphic card |
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[20:00] <mircea_cj> hi everybody ! i have a question related to lubuntu software manager, is it possible to manage add-ons of installed applications ? |
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[20:03] <holstein> mircea_cj: just depends... its a software manager, so if the addons come in the repos or added sources or ppas, you'll see them there |
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[20:03] <holstein> if not, you do it through the specific application |
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[20:04] <mircea_cj> on ubuntu software manager you have them right there, you can install or delete them, i thought...that lubuntu software manager has that feature |
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[20:05] <holstein> mircea_cj: you can install the main software manager if you prefer it |
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[20:06] <mircea_cj> i prefer lubuntu software manager, it doesn't matter at preferences if i change to expert mode, it never saves the configuration |
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[20:07] <mircea_cj> or anything i change there |
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[20:12] <mircea_cj> anyway, thanks for the help holstein |
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