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[02:50] <gunndawg> Does Super-boot-Manager work with Kubuntu? I'd like to change my plymouth theme, etc
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[04:55] <robotdevil> why do my windows never remeber the last window size setting?
[04:56] <robotdevil> opening system settings for example shows up across both screens
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[06:09] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:21] <soee> good morning
[06:32] <xennex81> morning lordievader
[06:32] <lordievader> Hey xennex81
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[08:00] <C855> hello
[08:00] <C855> Anyone home?
[08:01] <soee> hiho
[08:10] <C855> Anyone here know about dual boot kubuntu with windows?
[08:11] <C855> Any help is appreciated
[08:12] <hateball> !dualboot
[08:12] <ubottu> Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:13] <C855> checking them out now. I've just installed kubuntu as a dual boot system but there's no option to use windows.. goes straight to kubuntu
[08:19] <valorie> sounds like grub is being clueless
[08:38] <miguelauso> Hi all, somebody kwon how to move cursor/focus to another monitor using keyboard shortcut in KDE?
[08:40] <c855> I set up kubuntu as dual boot with windows but on start up don't get the option to use windows. Does anyone know a fix?
[08:43] <valorie> !grub | c855
[08:43] <ubottu> c855: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[08:44] <valorie> grub should present you the option
[08:47] <c855> thanks, I'll look at those links now. I dont get the grub menu on start up. I had windows already installed. I lost grub after installing kubuntu
[08:50] <valorie> odd, it must be looking the wrong place
[08:50] <valorie> how did you install?
[08:50] <valorie> via USB, perhaps?
[08:51] <c855> I installed from disk
[08:52] <valorie> hmmm, ok
[08:52] <c855> I tried using the disk again but it tried to reload Kubuntu
[08:52] <valorie> grub could still be confused
[08:52] <c855> I'm certainly confused
[08:52] <valorie> of course, that's what a live disk does
[08:52] <c855> I can't get into windows at all.
[08:53] <valorie> well, grub is a rather stupid little program, but that is its only function: boot whatever OSs you have
[08:54] <c855> and grub is supposed to appear when I start the computer?
[08:54] <valorie> so it seems not to be starting, otherwise it would offer you the choice of windows or kubuntu
[08:54] <c855> no, its not starting
[08:54] <valorie> if you have more than on OS installed, and want to have a choice, yes
[08:55] <c855> yes, I want the choice. I installed it as dual boot.
[08:55] <valorie> I'm no expert, but I have fixed problems with those two links ubottu posted above
[08:56] <c855> One talks about reinserting the cd. I assume that should now be dvd, but as I said, that just starts the installation process
[08:56] <valorie> ?
[08:57] <valorie> you should still be able to access a tty
[08:57] <valorie> control + alt + f2, f3, etc.
[08:57] <valorie> yes, it should read DVD
[08:57] <valorie> hardly any OSs still fit on a cd
[08:58] <c855> tty?
[09:00] <valorie> console, whatever you like to call it
[09:01] <c855_> oops. hit Ctrl Alt F2 and the screen went black
[09:01] <valorie> sorry, I'm off to bed, I hope you will get help from someone who knows grub better than I do
[09:01] <valorie> yes, that's the tty
[09:01] <valorie> ctl+alt+f6 usually to get back
[09:01] <valorie> just try them until you return
[09:02] <valorie> I wish you luck!
[09:02] <c855_> ta
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[11:14] <BluesKaj> HI all
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[11:32] <rick_> Hi
[11:32] <rick_> has anyone experienced a crush when you try to add widget to the desktop?
[11:33] <rick_> running plasma5
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[11:37] <soee> not for a long time
[11:38] <rick_> +Soee did you update any differently?
[11:39] <soee> rick_: im on direct install
[11:41] <rick_> +Soee it started misbehaving two days ago, am also on direct install beta2
[11:41] <Ryoma721> hi
[11:42] <soee> hiho Ryoma721
[11:42] <rick_> lol #Hihi
[11:42] <soee> rick_: do you have all latest updates ? and also plasmashell crashes or ?
[11:43] <rick_> my system is upto date...
[11:43] <Ryoma721> I'm using kubuntu 15:04 .... but after some updates I had to format
[11:43] <rick_> plasmashell???
[11:43] <soee> Ryoma721: what happend ?
[11:43] <rick_> +Ryoma why?
[11:43] <Ryoma721> sorry i am italian
[11:44] <soee> rick_: yes the panel, widtgets etc = plasmashell
[11:44] <rick_> ehehehe finito..lol
[11:44] <Ryoma721> after a few seconds desktop unusable
[11:44] <soee> Ryoma721: define unusable ?
[11:44] <Ryoma721> always
[11:45] <soee> Ryoma721: by any chance, do yuo have propriety drivers installed for gpu ?
[11:45] <Ryoma721> impossible to use the desktop, blocked
[11:45] <Ryoma721> noooooooo always radeon
[11:45] <Ryoma721> oibaf driver
[11:46] <soee> BluesKaj: any idea hot to debug or what logs lok into to check this issue ^
[11:46] <soee> Ryoma721: the desktop freezes ?
[11:47] <Ryoma721> I can not select the windows, the Start menu does not work
[11:47] <Ryoma721> yes yes
[11:47] <Ryoma721> freeze
[11:47] <soee> well i had such problem several times but i think it was related to my tests with gpu drivers
[11:48] <BluesKaj> Ryoma721, did you try alt+tab to unfreeze your desktop ?
[11:48] <soee> Ryoma721: anyway once it was some problem with configuration files, next time try to backup and remove .config and .kde
[11:49] <Ryoma721> already tried deleting kde .... improves slightly, but then crashes
[11:49] <Ryoma721> .kde
[11:50] <Ryoma721> alt-tab works for 5 minuts, after not work nothing
[11:50] <Ryoma721> reset.....
[11:50] <Ryoma721> after format works good
[11:50] <Ryoma721> sorry my english is bad
[11:50] <Ryoma721> i like kubuntu
[11:51] <soee> oh dont be sorry :)
[11:51] <Ryoma721> after update....not work freeze
[11:51] <Ryoma721> all day i use apt-get update
[11:51] <Ryoma721> dist-upgrade
[11:54] <Ryoma721> I think it's a problem of the desktop, the programs work although I can not interact
[11:54] <Ryoma721> yesterday update and after reboot freeze
[11:54] <Ryoma721> this day format
[11:55] <Ryoma721> now works good
[11:56] <soee> strange
[11:57] <Ryoma721> I have a10-7800
[12:02] <Ryoma721> I am alone having this problem
[12:05] <soee> well freezing sometimes is known to me
[12:05] <Ryoma721> freezes after 2 minutes
[12:07] <BluesKaj> Ryoma721, have you tro=ied to update, upgrade abd dist-upgrade since this issue ?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> err tried
[12:08] * BluesKaj searches for his glasses
[12:09] <Ryoma721> during the search of the update remains indefinitely
[12:10] <BluesKaj> search of the update?
[12:11] <Ryoma721> yes
[12:13] <Ryoma721> 100% [13 Packages 1.471 MB/1.471 MB 100%
[12:13] <Ryoma721> not stop
[12:14] <Ryoma721> goes on to download without stopping
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[12:19] <ViK_de> hi guys! How do you manage to get iphone woriking in kubuntu? i got it workin in ubuntu gnome and rythmbox out of the box but with kubuntu i cannot even get the iphone in dolphin S:
[12:37] <webnetedgar> hi
[12:37] <webnetedgar> anyone know when the 15.04 stable version will be released?
[12:38] <lordievader> !schedule
[12:39] <lordievader> < ubottu> A schedule of Vivid Vervet (15.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[12:39] <BluesKaj> Apr 23rd
[12:39] <webnetedgar> Thank you so much!
[12:40] <Ryoma721> I do not want to reformat hihihih
[12:40] <BluesKaj> webnetedgar, google is your friend for these genaral questions
[12:40] <soee> but we could put it in topic :-)
[12:40] <soee> as we are 2 weeks before release date
[12:41] <BluesKaj> soee, yes we should
[12:41] <webnetedgar> didn't find any official info, that's why. thanks though
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[13:14] <Ryoma721> hi
[13:16] <BluesKaj> what method do you use to update and upgrade, Ryoma721 ?
[13:17] <Ryoma721> sudo apt-get update
[13:17] <Ryoma721> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:17] <Ryoma721> always day
[13:18] <BluesKaj> ok good
[13:18] <colbyf> any plasma 5 users
[13:18] <BluesKaj> you should apt-get upgrade before dist-upgrade
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Ryoma721, ^
[13:18] <Ryoma721> firs update
[13:18] <Ryoma721> after upgrade
[13:19] <Ryoma721> first update
[13:19] <Ryoma721> after upgrade
[13:19] <BluesKaj> colbyf, yes on 15.04
[13:19] <Ryoma721> seems like a configuration problem
[13:20] <colbyf> BluesKaj cool, you have any idea on fixing the icon size by any chance
[13:21] <soee> colbyf: what icon size ?
[13:21] <Ryoma721> the amazing thing that amule works even if the desktop is freeze
[13:21] <colbyf> where the best place to quicklu upload a screenhot
[13:21] <soee> the new fancy commads are: apt update and apt full-upgrade
[13:21] <Ryoma721> although I can not use it
[13:21] <soee> colbyf: wstaw.org
[13:22] <BluesKaj> colbyf, system settings>icons>advanced , but I don't think the settings do much atm
[13:23] <Ryoma721> 100% [13 Packages 2.488 MB/2.488 MB 100%]
[13:23] <colbyf> http://wstaw.org/w/3jAO/
[13:23] <Ryoma721> repository not work?
[13:24] <colbyf> you see the icons are massive I can't seem to change then in advanced settings
[13:25] <colbyf> I can get the drop box to unlock in advanced but values don't chnage anything
[13:25] <soee> colbyf: yes because they scale with panel
[13:25] <soee> colbyf: what widget is it ?
[13:26] <colbyf> its just icons
[13:26] <colbyf> that I add by dragging onto the pannel
[13:26] <colbyf> the only options I key when I right click is icon settings and this only brings up keyboard shortcuts
[13:27] <colbyf> i suppose an idea is to move them off there on a separate panel. Which I could keep small, that should work?
[13:27] <soee> colbyf: ok but tehy are activator splaced in task manager ?
[13:29] <colbyf> ok lost :)
[13:32] <soee> colbyf: ok seems liek you just put single icons in panel, its not tasdk manager, you have task manager above the icons
[13:33] <BluesKaj> colbyf, your panel seems quite large , and the iconsd there expand with the width of your panel in your setup
[13:33] <soee> well atm in Plasma 5 you can't scale this icons i think, in KDE4 there was widget called i think QuickLaunch taht allows you to set columns or rows for added icons
[13:33] <soee> but it is not ported to Plasma 5 yet
[13:34] <colbyf> thought so, I will create a separate panel
[13:34] * BluesKaj waits patiently for quicklaunch amongst other missing widgets
[13:34] <soee> :)
[13:34] <colbyf> lol :P this is my 1st time with any KDE desktop. I know its still in development but does look very good
[13:35] <soee> we all have our favs, mine is colorpicker - also missing in P5
[13:35] <soee> colbyf: yup, wait some time and in backports Plasma 5.3 shoudl land :)
[13:35] <colbyf> yea :)
[13:36] <soee> colbyf: http://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/32jwkw/kde_kde_ships_plasma_53_beta_improves_power/
[13:36] <colbyf> ....away back to experimenting :P
[13:37] <BluesKaj> prefer panel at the bottom , old school :)
[13:38] <soee> and we are lucky with KDe that we can put it where we want
[13:38] <colbyf> lol i dont know where I want it yey, I keep moving it, plus I have a nice wide screen monitor so lots of wasted space width wise
[13:38] <donniezazen> soee: that's like your opinion man.
[13:38] <donniezazen> haha I had to say that
[13:39] <soee> :D
[13:39] <colbyf> desktop fight lol :P
[13:39] <donniezazen> You would get it if you are a Big Lebowski fan.
[13:40] <mparillo> Shame about the timing of 5.3...ISTR that earlier the KDE SC releases seemed to align better with the Kubuntu releases.
[13:40] <colbyf> ahh my mate tries to make me watch that movie,
[13:40] <donniezazen> Yeah, timing is a shame. Both Kubuntu and Fedora KDE are going to be shipped with 5.2
[13:41] <Riddell> we should get backports soon enough
[13:41] <soee> mparillo: imo yes and no, now we are sure we have pretty stable 5.2.X
[13:41] <soee> each 5.x release might have some issues at first
[13:42] <soee> so its better to ship it with first bug release
[13:43] <mparillo> Gimme new stuff. If I wanted stable I would be on LTS.1+ ;-)
[13:44] <soee> :D
[13:44] <soee> mparillo: yes but think about simple user
[13:44] <BluesKaj> has 14.10 plasma 4 as my backup OS
[13:45] <donniezazen> or machines that are meant for special purposes like dev machines that can only be upgraded once in 2 years.
[13:49] <colbyf> where woudl you download widgets too, i like to keep things tidy. Should I create a folder for them in my /home or should I put them to the kde folder, which I dojn't know where that is
[13:53] <BluesKaj> colbyf, the widget downloader leaves them in the "widgets File" until you click on the desktop and "add widgets" or the wrench on the end of the panel
[13:53] <colbyf> the link I am using dosen't download them auto, its a manual install
[13:55] <BluesKaj> yes theres' that option too
[13:57] <BluesKaj> click on add widgets then choose "get new widgets" for a list of available stuff
[13:57] <colbyf> cool :)
[14:01] <LINKSWORD2> Hello. How do I hide an unused device in KMix?
[14:05] <BluesKaj> LINKSWORD2, dunno if it's possible to hide it
[14:06] <LINKSWORD2> Hi, Blues.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Hi LINKSWORD2
[14:07] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: Well, here's the deal. Kubuntu is on a desktop system with a built-in soundcard on the motherboard, and when I go into the settings for KMix, it shows an HDMI device in the configuration, which I know I do not have. Any thoughts?
[14:08] <colbyf> cool :)you plugged into a hdmi monitor
[14:09] <colbyf> i had the same but I use pulse audio
[14:09] <LINKSWORD2> That doesn't make sense. I have HDMI ports on my monitor, but not on my video card.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> HDMI connects to your spdif soundcard output by default if you have a HDMI output , LINKSWORD2
[14:10] <LINKSWORD2> That's just it. I don't have an HDMI output on my system.
[14:10] <colbyf> oh you have no HDMI port on ur laptop
[14:10] <colbyf> pass :) sry
[14:10] <BluesKaj> then the HDMI is being detected on your monitor by the HW system
[14:11] <LINKSWORD2> .... *Points to original post.* Desktop. No HDMI on graphics card. Motherboard default audio.
[14:11] <BluesKaj> it's like an outboard device most likely
[14:11] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: Odd. I've never seen that happen.
[14:13] <LINKSWORD2> BluesKaj: So... It's detecting an HDMI port on my monitor, through my VGA port KVM switch, which the monitor is hooked up to....
[14:13] <BluesKaj> yes, but it's possible with better HW detection nowadays
[14:13] <LINKSWORD2> Mind... Blown....
[14:14] <rberg> I bet your chipset supports HDMI even if no connecter is attached.. and the driver found it
[14:14] <LINKSWORD2> rberg: Ahh..... Interesting hypothesis....
[14:14] <BluesKaj> my sdpif output was never detected by my nvidia gpu until about 3 yrs ago, but now i have a ackup in case my pci soundcard dies
[14:15] <BluesKaj> my onboard spdif I mean
[14:16] <LINKSWORD2> Hmm.....
[14:16] <rberg> but I dont know how to hide it from kmix other then looking around the bios to see if it can be disabled
[14:16] <colbyf> go into ur sound options and see can you disable it there
[14:17] <colbyf> I hid HDMI output settings in there
[14:17] <LINKSWORD2> Considering that I don't have an HDMI device on my system, I don't think I will have HDMI settings in the bios.
[14:17] <BluesKaj> dunno why you'd want to hide it though, it might come in handy someday LINKSWORD2
[14:18] <LINKSWORD2> I have 2 audio devices, and one of them, (the HDMI) does nothing. I want to disable the one that doesn't do anything. I can always re-enable it later if it does something useful, or if I need it for something.
[14:19] <colbyf> if you download pulseaudi volume control, you can disbale it there and should run through to the rest of ur applications
[14:20] <LINKSWORD2> PulseAudio, you say? Hmm....
[14:21] <colbyf> thats whi I was able to kix skype and different programs from playing through my HDMI devices
[14:21] <LINKSWORD2> I'll look around. Thanks.
[14:22] <lordievader> pavucontrol \o/
[14:22] <colbyf> Bluekaj: what email app do you use, just the one that comes with KDE
[14:25] <BluesKaj> i just use gmail , kmail iis too complex for my needs altho thunderbird works well too, colbyf
[14:25] <Zundrli_> hello everyone, i need help with kde and my dual screen setup. is there anyone here with experience in that topic?
[14:26] <colbyf> ahh i am looking to use pgp and that
[14:26] <colbyf> Zundrli_ : I don't know about experienced but I am running dual screen
[14:26] <BluesKaj> I have no need for an email database/server setup colbyf
[14:28] <Zundrli_> colbyf i have everything set up nicely but one thing is really bothering me: i have one monitor (big, 16:9) on the right, and one smaller monitor on the left (4:3). on the left side of the bigger screen i have a panel placed vertically. windows maximize under that panel and its driving me mad. its everywhere around google too, but no fix to be found
[14:29] <colbyf> same prob haven't looked at it yet but its on my todays todo list lol
[14:30] <colbyf> u using KDE desktop
[14:30] <Zundrli_> yes kde 4
[14:30] <colbyf> kde 5 still same prob
[14:30] <Zundrli_> it drives me nuts
[14:31] <colbyf> did you go into windows behaviour in settings
[14:31] <Zundrli_> another thing, how do i make icons in the task manager stack ontop of eachother to save space?
[14:31] <colbyf> going there now myself to see
[14:32] <Ryoma721> now kubuntu works good
[14:32] <colbyf> on kde 4 there should be a package search the net for resize panel icons kde4 might help
[14:32] <Ryoma721> crossing my fingers in future updates
[14:34] <Zundrli_> can you add me on skype or something colbyf in case you find a fix
[14:34] <colbyf> sure
[14:34] <LINKSWORD2> Later, ya'll.
[14:34] <colbyf> msg me ur id
[14:35] <colbyf> r email
[14:35] <Zundrli_> how lol
[14:35] <colbyf> right click on my name and there should be a dialoge option
[14:36] <Zundrli_> im on a webirc in my browser
[14:36] <Zundrli_> i think my skype id is the same as here, without the _
[14:36] <colbyf> k
[14:57] <goddard> was trying to upgrade and my upgrade crashed when trying to remove KDM
[14:57] <goddard> and replace it with SDDM
[14:59] <goddard> getting plasmashell borted
[15:00] <zundrli_> i have a dual screen setup in kubuntu 14.10, one monitor 16:9, right side, and one, 4:3 on the left side. i set a vertical panel up at the left side of the bigger (16:9) screen. whenever i maximize windows they go under the panel and its really frustrating..... anyone an idea for fixing this?
[15:02] <alvin> I did something.... As a user, you can run tcpdump on some interfaces. In the hope of being able to run it on all interfaces, I ran dpkg-reconfigure tcpdump. Now, I lost all permissions. How to reverse this and set it back to default? (And why did this happen? I didn't get any questions.)
[15:08] <alvin> Ok, now I'm wondering why it actually worked before as non-root user.
[15:44] <s_20> i only realised now that kf 5.9 made it into vivid, nice
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[16:31] <goddard> can i install 15.04 over the net?
[16:31] <goddard> without a flash drive or cd
[16:36] <genii> !debbootstrap
[16:37] <genii> !debootstrap
[16:37] <ubottu> debootstrap is used to create a !Debian or Ubuntu base system from scratch, without requiring the availability of !dpkg or !APT. It does this by downloading !.deb files from a mirror site, and carefully unpacking them into a directory you can eventually !chroot into. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot for more information
[16:37] <genii> goddard: See the bots link for more info
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[16:49] <goddard> yikes sounds time consuming
[16:56] <Voyage> How to restart kde alt + ctrl + backspace does not works
[16:58] <Graf_Westerholt> Voyage, wait a minute, let me try. ;)
[16:58] <Graf_Westerholt> :D
[16:58] <Voyage> k
[16:58] <Graf_Westerholt> LOL
[16:59] <Graf_Westerholt> Try ALT+Print+K
[16:59] <Voyage> Graf_Westerholt, doesnt works
[17:00] <Graf_Westerholt> Voyage, maybe it is disabled.
[17:00] <Graf_Westerholt> !ubottu sysrq
[17:00] <Graf_Westerholt> !sysrq
[17:00] <ubottu> In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key
[17:00] <Graf_Westerholt> !sysrq | Voyage
[17:00] <ubottu> Voyage: please see above
[17:01] <goddard> big problem i see already with the Kubuntu installer
[17:01] <goddard> you can't connect to a wifi network with a hidden SSID
[17:05] <goddard> http://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html
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[18:12] <Aristide> Hi !
[18:12] <Aristide> Lot of packages are not available into 15.04 repository, its normal ?
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[18:17] <NickStone> anstide 15.04 hasn't been released yet
[18:39] <MoonUnit`> todays plasma5 updates broken kickoff search?
[18:45] <soee> there was Kf 5.9 update but that shoudl break it i think
[18:46] <MoonUnit`> baloosearch and find from dolphin still work.
[18:48] <MoonUnit`> installed plasma5 on a spare drive today, logoff, reboot and shutdown worked. so something broken on my main system.
[18:48] <MoonUnit`> will reinstall at the weekend.
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[21:31] <YAFU> Anyone using Kubuntu 15.04 here?
[21:33] <genii> YAFU: Might also check #ubuntu+1 which is for all 15.04 *buntu
[21:36] <YAFU> Ok. I just want to discuss some issues that I found on Kubuntu 15.04 before reporting
[22:25] <Headpool182> hi
[22:26] <Headpool182> I was wondering if anyone knew, for non-linux steam games, do i have to install steam for windows via wine, or can i configure them to automagically launch with wine?
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