[00:01] lol [00:03] i am trying to add and remove some programs from startup... in Autostart -kde control module i only see one program [00:03] how can i remove others programas from startup? [00:04] that why i was trying to open that folder [00:05] f1zz3r: What specific thinks are you trying to remove being being started? [00:05] *thinks-things [00:05] kopete [00:05] ktorrent [00:35] anyone know why wicd-kde is giving me a "Bad password" error? [00:35] it does that four or five times, then connects [02:38] hi === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [05:33] hey all [05:33] still a problem in dolphin, after upgradng to 4.8.4 [05:34] double clicking on a xml file opens firefox instead of default application kate.. [05:34] still have checkecn file association and preffered apps... [05:35] right click on an xml file and choose Properties [05:35] then click the little wrench icon on the right [05:35] qbit: already done.. [05:35] or.. wait.. sorry.. not that ;) [05:35] Application Preference order has kate at the top of the list? [05:35] have done a lot of tests.. [05:36] use the move up/move down to reorder the list so kate is at top [05:36] ah.. this.. yes....http://i.imgur.com/TG6xn.png [05:37] qbit: if i right click and open with, kate is on top [05:39] only other thing I can think if that isn't working is in systemsettings -> file associations and put xml on the search box [05:39] then under the application tree do the same move up/move down for the xml entry [05:40] qbit: same settings there.. [05:41] qbit: bbs... breakfast ;) [05:41] then I suspect Dolphin is seeing the file you're trying to open as one of the other mime types in that big list [05:42] if you can isolate the right one and make the same change.... === JMichaelX is now known as LawnMowersSuck [06:07] qbit: what you mean exactly? === LawnMowersSuck is now known as JMichaelX === boombatower_ is now known as boombatower [07:07] noaXess: when in systemsettings -> file associations and entered xml into the search box at the top it returns 3 categories [07:07] qbit: jep [07:08] application, image and text [07:08] noaXess: if you expand the applications category you'll see a plethora of entries associatted with various forms of xml mime types [07:09] qbit: jep a lot [07:09] what I'm wondering is if Dolphin is thinking the file you are trying to open is one of these other types [07:09] which might be wrong [07:10] qbit: but no other type has firefox as first application in preference order [07:10] so that is just weird [07:10] maybe it is a bug and needs to get reported somewhere as PR [07:11] because really, the generic xml one should have taken care of anything with a .xml suffix [07:11] qbit: yes.. thats the prob... i thaught i found allready a bugreport.. but can't remember find it again [07:12] I just know on my system the xml entry has a list of every browser on the machine first, with the kate and kwrite ones almost all the way to the nottom of the list [07:13] qbit: and if you double click on a xml.. kate will be opened? [07:13] I single-click [07:13] looking for an xml file to make a test with now [07:14] qbit: ok.. me too ;) [07:14] single/double click option [07:14] OK - it opened in Firefox too [07:14] qbit: so, bug.. right? [07:14] still one.. [07:15] yup - I moved kate to top of list and still Firefox [07:15] so I see exactly same thing you see [07:15] so I believe bug [07:15] qbit: searching again to get a bug. [07:15] qbit: can you make a test from console... kde-open your-file.xml [07:16] qbit: what happens? [07:17] in Konsole a kate sitemap.xml opened the file in kate [07:17] qbit: and kde-open sitemap.xml? [07:17] I just used a sitemap.xml from a web site I was working on.... [07:18] went to Firefox [07:18] qbit: kde-open sitemap.xml opens also firefox? [07:18] yes [07:19] ok.. strange.. [07:19] it has something to do with mime types.. anywhere in a config file of kde... so not a dolphin problem.. cause kde-open works without dolphin [07:19] right [07:20] unless Dolphin is actually using kde0open behind the scene [07:21] but I think I can recall some time ago able to open an xml file with a single click in Dolphin and if I had it set to open in Kate it did [07:21] hi guys [07:21] that was way back probably KDE 4.7.3, or .2 or earlier [07:22] qbit: i tried to use another file manager.. wait.. need to remember.. hm... [07:23] ha ha ha - in Konqueror file manager it works correctly [07:23] click on the xml file an it popped right up in Kate [07:24] qbit: krusader [07:24] so I suspect the problem might really be Dolphin [07:28] I've never seen nor used Krusader so I know nothing about it [07:28] qbit: liek a modern mc ;) with a lot of functions.. [07:28] easy to witch between panels with tab [07:32] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=279786 [07:32] KDE bug 279786 in general "define to open a special extension always with program X does not work" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] [07:36] !netsplit [07:36] netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [07:47] qbit: seams not exactly the same prob.. cause this will open xml's in yed, cause it is set to... but on our system firefox isn't set to open xml a s default in file assiciation, but firefox will do it anyway === TheDrums_ is now known as TheDrums [07:50] noaXess: yes - I agree, was looking for something a little more specific and not finding it [07:51] qbit: i try to create a bug report [07:57] Are there Chinese input method in KDE? [08:23] qbit: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=302549 [08:23] KDE bug 302549 in general "Dolphin open files with wrong association" [Major,Unconfirmed: ] [08:47] hello there kubuntu [08:49] morning [09:19] Salut tous :) [11:08] is there a command similar to sudo -i for the desktop environment? I am tired of having to enter my password so many times to do updates and installs I know I dont need it often but when I do it would come in handy === Jikan is now known as Jikai [12:16] yofel_: are you there? [12:26] does the microblog app work for twitter in kde 4.9? === vprints_ is now known as vprints [12:51] Hi all === sem_ is now known as Peace- [13:08] who [13:09] quit [13:09] exit [13:09] logout [13:09] disconnect [13:10] close [13:10] just close the window.... [13:14] close the cave door [13:16] I am having a problem with my sound. I completely lost it within the last couple of weeks. The last time I had my speakers on was 2 weeks ago. I ran aplay -l in Konsole. Here is the output. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1053994/ I've been searching for about a week now, but nothing seems to be working. I would appreciate any help. [13:17] Pici, have you heard of ISPs allowing windows only OSs connecting thru their internet client software ? There's a guy at #ubuntu making that claim. [13:19] AceKing, what soundcard? [13:20] BluesKaj: It's built into the MB [13:21] BluesKaj: the info I got is posted in the pastebin [13:22] BluesKaj: If that is not enough info, is there a command that will show more info? [13:24] yes AceKing , what does, lsmod | grep snd, output , look at the first line in the list [13:25] AceKing, that command tells us what audio driver/module is loaded [13:25] BluesKaj: It says "no such file or directory" [13:27] AceKing, copy and paste the command intoi the terminal , lsmod | grep snd [13:27] BluesKaj: My fault, I copied the ,output. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1060741/ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:32] BluesKaj: OK [13:32] AceKing, ok open , system settings>multimedia>phonon>device preference , check the list of devices and test them , use the one that gives you audio output with the test buttonand move it to the top , then apply and "apply device list to " as well [13:33] that's one method , we have to try first [13:35] AceKing, unless you plan to use the hdmi out to a audio/video receiver or a tv then we need to do a different configuration , I assume you have speakers connected to your pc that you want to use . [13:35] BluesKaj: It shows 2 devices, "GF108 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)" and "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo". I tried both, and no sound out of either [13:36] BluesKaj: I don't plan on using the HDMI output [13:39] AceKing, ok then run this in the terminal , sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel ...if there is no output , then that's normal and the module is loaded , you may have to reboot , but first chaeck alsamixer in the terminal for volume ctrl settings , make sure thy're up to 80% at least amd no MM in the boxes === tsimpson_ is now known as tsimpson [13:44] BluesKaj: OK, there was no output. I ran alsamixer, and there was mm in a couple of the boxes. I unchecked them and still no sound. When I unchecked the headphone I got loud static out of the speakers. I couldn't adjust it any lower [13:44] AceKing, did you check device prefernce in phonon test ? [13:45] BluesKaj: I'm trying that right now [13:46] BluesKaj: Still no sound out of either device listed [13:46] AceKing, you may need to reboot in oreder to reload alsa [13:47] BluesKaj: OK, I will reboot and sign back on to let you know.. Thank you [14:15] BluesKaj: I rebooted and still have no sound [14:20] AceKing, there is one more thing to try , open with krunner (alt+F2) , kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf , add this line to the bottom, options snd_hda_intel index=0 , save the file [14:22] AceKing, then in the the teminal , sudo alsa force-reload [14:23] BluesKaj: OK, done [14:23] * BluesKaj slows down ...doing too many things at once [14:25] AceKing, one more question do you have pulseaudio installed , if so check your audio hardware tab settings in phonon [14:26] BluesKaj: Pulse Audio is not installed. Still no sound. Should I install it? [14:27] AceKing, yes [14:29] AceKing, that shuld have been one of the fist questions . these days i assume pulseaudio is installed since it's been default on the last 4-5 releases [14:30] BluesKaj: I just installed it. I opened it up and it shows an x thought the speaker. I tried to click it, but it didn't do anything [14:31] AceKing, you need to go to phonon to setup the preferred device and the hardware settings [14:31] BluesKaj: OK [14:34] BluesKaj: Damn, still nothing [14:35] BluesKaj: Did I need to restart after installing Pulse Audio? [14:35] AceKing, yeah , most likely [14:36] BluesKaj: Ok, I'll restart and let you know. Thank you [14:44] BluesKaj: I restarted and still no sound. I tried going back into phonon, and tested both devices listed. The sound worked fine when I first installed Kubuntu. I wonder what happened? [14:45] AceKing, did you set the hardware tab in phonon to analog speaker setup? [14:47] BluesKaj: It shows the GF108 High def audio, and the Built-in Audio Digital Stereo (IEC958) [14:47] BluesKaj: All others are grayed out [14:50] AceKing, ok , what does lsmod | grep snd , show now ? [14:51] BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060861/ [15:02] AceKing, sudo modprobe snd_hda_codec_realtek [15:03] BluesKaj: Just came back to prompt with no results [15:03] AceKing, good then it loaded the module [15:03] BluesKaj: OK [15:04] No news is good news! [15:18] BluesKaj: OK, somehow I got the test sound working in Phonon on both devices listed. However, I cannot adjust the sound with the volume widget in the taskbar while the test sound is playing. I tried playing an MP3, but it wouldn't play. [15:23] AceKing, in run command/krunner do kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf . Change the line with, options snd_hda_intel index=0, to , options snd_hda_codec_realtek index=0 ..not sure this will work but it's worth trying. then you'll have to run , sudo alsa force-reload , again [15:24] AceKing, if the force reload doesn't work , try rebooting again ..that's about it for me , I can't think of much more to help [15:26] BluesKaj: I will restart and check to see if it works. I appreciate all the time you spent helping me. If this does not work, I may do a reinstall to see if that solves the problem. [15:27] AceKing, unless you install pavucontrol , that might help direct the sound to the proper circuit if the settings are correct [15:27] BluesKaj: OK, I will try that first. Thank you [15:28] AceKing, once installed pavucontrol will in the kmenu in multimedia [15:28] will be [15:28] BluesKaj: OK [15:28] pulseaudio volume control === sem_ is now known as Peace- === cortex-sk is now known as jdrab [15:37] BluesKaj: I restarted and have system sounds, but no other sounds. I wonder if Kmix has something to do with it. If I try to start Kmix, it hangs up and never starts up. [15:37] what about alsamixer , check it , AceKing [15:38] AceKing: sudo apt-get install plasma-widget-veromix [15:38] BluesKaj: OK [15:38] Peace-, he has pavucontrol [15:38] ah [15:38] look like the kmix bug [15:39] should have thought of that [15:39] BluesKaj: Ok, alsamixer only has 2 items showing, Master and PCM. Neither is muted [15:43] AceKing, look in kmenu>apps>multimedia> pulse audio control , set the options there for analog output [15:44] masz pozyczyc 5 zl? [15:45] BluesKaj: Under Output Devices? [15:46] yes [15:46] !pl | netrunner_ [15:46] netrunner_: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl. [15:47] BluesKaj: It only shows HDMI/ Displayport, There is nothing else to select. On the check boxes below, only PCM is checked [15:48] Is there anyway to get rid of the title bar in Firefox ( like windows ) but still have it usable to min/max,etc.. [15:48] AceKing, in phonon hardware tab , what are options there? [15:50] BluesKaj: OK, it shows the first option (which is grayed out) GF108 High Definition Audio Controller. The next one down is Built in Audio Analog Stereo. And at the very bottom is the GF108 again which is selectable [15:51] AceKing, your speaker system is connected to your pc , correct ? [15:51] BluesKaj: Yes, and we are getting close, because I can hear all the system sounds ok. [15:52] AceKing, ok , choose the analog output [15:53] BluesKaj: OK. Do I need to restart? [15:54] no AceKing , it should work . if you choose the same option in the pavucontrol , it should already be selected , since setting it in the hardware options [15:54] BluesKaj: I can now hear my MP3 playing. I just cannot control the sound from the volume widget on the taskbar [15:55] AceKing, do you have vol ctrls on the KB ? [15:55] BluesKaj: I have volume controls on VLC, which is the program I'm using, and that works === Jikai is now known as Jikan [15:57] AceKing, that's you best bet then , in the near future if you update/upgrade kmix should fix itself [15:57] or after a reboot [15:58] BluesKaj: I appreciate all the time you spent helping me today. Thank you for getting my sound back! [15:59] AceKing, np, ...I spent 10 days trying to fix my audio after installing a new soundcard , so i know how frustrating and tricky it can get [16:00] BluesKaj: I googled for days trying to get it to work [16:02] there are just too many optional audio settings in linux ...there should be an audio manager of some sort linked to all the options that need to be set [16:03] ppl yeah , pulseaudio , but it only does about half of the settings required [16:03] ppl say , that is [16:03] Good evening [16:04] it's noon here :) === Vanildo_Souto_ is now known as Vanildo_Souto [16:05] How are you BluesKaj? [16:05] bbl , gonna watch the news ...we have a local disaster that I'm keeping an eye on ...a mall parking garage collapsed into the food court below === Vanildo_Souto is now known as Vanildo_Souto_ [16:11] hello [16:11] help me please === k0s is now known as qw[UA] [16:12] !ask [16:12] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:12] qw[UA]: A description of what you need help with might get more response :-) [16:12] i am use in Spark (ubuntu) and i would like my monitor is automatekli disable [16:13] help me please in off this options [16:14] auto-disable in ourtime* [16:14] qw[UA]: We have told you earlier, Spark is not kubuntu, you need to find a Spark linux support room. [16:14] but Spark is founded in Linux (ubuntu) [16:15] qw[UA]: We can only support official variants of Ubuntu/Kubuntu here [16:15] qw[UA]: Yes and Ubuntu is based on Debian, but you wont get support for Ubuntu in the Debian channel. [16:16] Pici, I use it admits off ver *ubuntu [16:16] qw[UA]: man xrandr [16:16] were his options [16:17] Peace, sorry what? [16:17] what? [16:18] oh [16:18] qw[UA] it's a kubuntu issue? [16:18] no so no support [16:19] we don't support LInux mint , debian , ubuntu ... we support only Kubuntu and kde [16:19] sorry not understand you [16:19] bye [16:19] omg [16:19] good [16:19] bey [16:19] bye* [16:23] ntpdate is quite slow ain't it [16:24] kish: I suppose it depends on the amount of lag between you and the tick server [16:25] let's hope not [16:25] ( or if network is fully up by the time it wants to sync the time ) [16:25] i should just get my own time server [16:25] what do those things cost? [16:26] why would my other pc be off 2.47 in one day [16:26] 2.47 seconds! [16:30] kish: That is extremely odd. Maybe you have something overclocked, etc [16:43] anyone know if the nvidia 540m which uses optimus, is supported at all? === Shaun_ is now known as Shaun [16:46] SlobKnob: Yes, it is [17:32] For ages I've been struggling to get searching working in KMail2, but I think I've figured out the cause - I don't have a search folder [17:33] Any ideas how I get that folder back? [17:46] mfraz74: mmm kmail is under develop? [17:46] mfraz74: i would not use it for a !!while!! [17:47] test [17:47] I use webmail pretty much exclusively now [17:47] Misan2012: Yes, we see what you type [17:47] Peace-: too late! [17:47] thanks =) [17:48] Misan2012: If you have some question about your Kubuntu, you can just ask the main channel here and see if someone offers an answer [17:54] genii-around: me too [17:54] gmail [17:58] thunderbird works here , I sill have my ISP email plus gmail , so t-bird accesses both [17:58] still [18:16] qbit: check this ;) https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291177 [18:16] KDE bug 291177 in general "XML-based files are opened with the default browser instead of the associated application" [Normal,New: ] [18:20] Hello everyone [18:33] hello [18:33] Hey azbarcea, how are you? [18:33] i have one question about install lazarus i didn'st see this programm from the list [18:34] Hello [18:34] I have this problem : (dependency) http://pastebin.com/B53HwPxu [18:34] How can fix this ? [18:35] mah454 you live Ukraine ? [18:35] mah454: Have you tried installing those packages manually? [18:35] no Iran [18:35] lordievader: no [18:36] lordievader: why manual ? [18:37] mah454: Because in that way you might resolve your dependency problem. Or try something like "sudo dpkg -f", but I'm not really sure it was that problem. [18:38] also I added this repository : http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/kdelibs5-dev/download [18:38] but not fixed ... ! [18:38] this "deb http://ubuntu.mirror.cambrium.nl/ubuntu/ precise main " [18:40] mah454: Ah it wasn't dpkg -f, it's apt-get install -f, so try that. [18:40] mah454: Oh and run sudo apt-get update, before it. === yrg is now known as gry [18:44] no ! not fixed ... [18:44] why repository's have problem ? [18:45] mah454, switch to another one [18:45] mah454: "http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/kdelibs5-dev/download" is not a repository [18:45] genii-around: I know . Open this link in web browser and view repository ... [18:47] mah454: The lines in sources.list are formatted like so: link distribution repository [18:49] eg: http://somewhere precise ( or different distribution name ) main ( or universe, multiverse, restricted, and so on) [18:49] mah454: pastebin your sources.list file [18:49] the entire one [18:50] ( pre-pended by deb or deb-src ) [18:50] TheLordOfTime: http://pastebin.com/5XSLjSdY [18:50] deb-src is disabled ... [18:51] lemme check something [18:51] * TheLordOfTime checks the mirrorstats page [18:51] TheLordOfTime: what is lemme ? [18:51] slang for "let me" [18:52] what do this ? [18:52] hmm [18:53] my repository have problem ? [18:53] actually [18:53] i cant find your mirror on the mirrors list [18:54] * TheLordOfTime thinks for a minute [18:54] you may want to try a different archive mirror, not sure which you'd use though... [18:55] main server would be good right now , since there aren't any new OS releases in the repos for a while [18:55] TheLordOfTime: this good ? "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse" [18:56] that should be fine [18:59] lemme check something [18:59] what do this ? === aaron is now known as MrDarkUser [19:00] I read this article, http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/fixing-unix-linux-filenames.html and I would like to do something about it [19:01] I want to have a system policy that restricts filenames. [19:06] MrDarkUser: what restriction ? [19:06] TheLordOfTime: no ! not fixed (repository ....) [19:08] mah454: to a portable, and sane set of characters. (arbitrarily configurable) Basically, I don't want filenames starting with - to be recongized as valid filenames [19:10] rightnow, KDE has gone so far as to bork up filenames very bad... If I try to create a file and directories by creating a file with path name foo/bar/qux, KDE converts the /'s to a look a like character, and then I can't deal with the file any more [19:10] I want KDE to give an error message, and or just do the expected by creating a directory tree === graft is now known as Guest1779 === alex_ is now known as Tal === Tal is now known as Talwin === alex_ is now known as Talwin [19:44] Hi Guys - am i in the right place for a little support? [19:46] Do i assume thats a no? Or just a little quiet? [19:47] Talwin, ask a question if you so desire [19:47] Oh hi. [19:48] I know this has been asked a bazzillion times and I have spent about 4hours trying to figure it out, but i cannot for the life of me get my wireless adapter to work. [19:48] whats the chipset [19:48] I am on the machine now with a wired connection. Broadcom i think! 4312 i believe. [19:49] theres a lot of posts about the same problem and i have tried all the solutions i could find to no avail. it is quite possible i am an idiot alas. === supreet is now known as Guest98628 [19:50] i just did lspci and i got this: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 [19:50] so 4311. [19:50] !broadcom [19:50] Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx [19:51] Talwin: are you running from a liveusb? [19:52] no. i did install that way though [19:52] Talwin:, I got my broadcom to work by adding /cdrom as a repositor (when I was running from liveusb) [19:53] Talwin, you may have to mount the usb drive, and add it as a repository [19:53] Talwin: then the add-hardware wizard will find it. [19:53] Talwin: This took me about 6months of frustration to figure out. [19:53] ! [19:54] Talwin: or you can just navigate to the pool directory on it and click on the broadcom .deb files... [19:54] thanks for the heads up, I have dabbled with linux but would consider myself a total noob. repositories are places where the system looks for packages right [19:54] and tell them to install that way. [19:55] Talwin: yes, /etc/apt/sources.list The liveUSB system does not account for the change in path [19:55] so how do i add these repositories? [19:56] Talwin: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list [19:56] Talwin: ... and you will see the basic formatting... I think you just put a path down instead of http:// [19:57] so I see lots of links to respositories. how do i go about adding one. [19:57] and which one do i add === supreet__ is now known as supreet [19:58] I have the liveusb with me. do you mean I plug it in. and add a path to the usb? [19:59] Talwin: yes, you plug that in... it has the files you need [19:59] Talwin: deb file:/cdrom/ oneiric main restricted was the line I needed to add for my liveusb system [20:00] Talwin: but that was when I was running from a liveusb drive... (it shows up as /cdrom/) [20:00] Talwin: You will need deb file:/media/MOUNTEDUSB/ precise main restricted (if you are running 12.04) [20:00] Talwin: and run sudo apt-get update ; [20:01] i am running 12.04. [20:01] and updated a few hours ago totally [20:01] (are you on the network with that device now, over ethernet?) [20:01] yes. [20:01] Hello anyone had crazy behavior with aconadi? On my system it is eating up all ram and cpu after 5min of booting up the pc [20:01] plugged in with the ethernet, typing on it right now [20:02] (Oh, your problems may be worse) [20:02] had to kill every single process to get a usable system [20:02] >.< [20:02] Talwin: So... yikes.. you don't need to do any of that... (I had to get the networking working from the usb drive) [20:04] :o === mkv is now known as m4v [20:05] i dont understand why this is so hard! :O [20:07] evening all. If anyone is about, can you help me to try and get a webcam working please? System is finding a module for it, the power's on to the cam, but for some reason my machine won't allow me to open /dev/video0 to view the transport through the cam. [20:07] going to try a restart. may be back :o [20:08] Camera VPID is 0ac8:0328, it's a Flexicam VM130 (gspca chip), made by Z-Tech Microelectronics [20:20] hi, my firefox keeps opening files & folders in nautilus, even though i'm running kde. How to fix? (12.04, 64bit) [20:24] kaddi, kmenu>computer>system settings>default applications>file manager , choose dolphin from the list [20:24] that's already the case [20:24] evening BluesKaj :) [20:24] firefox ignores it [20:25] kaddi, then remove nautlus [20:25] in the past there used to be a kde-firefox-addon of sorts [20:25] but i don't know the name of it [20:25] then it opens it in explorer, because I have wine installed.. which is even worse :p [20:27] kaddi , if you also have gnome/unity installed then I don't know , unless there's amethod to tell FF to use dolphin. [20:27] hi BarkingFish :) [20:27] well there used to be that compatability package [20:27] but i have forgotten how it's called [20:27] bbiab ..in the midst of setting up the BBQ [20:33] BarkingFish, does the digital camera optiob in system settings apply to a webcam or isthat strictly for regular digital cams [20:33] BarkingFish, ? ^ [20:34] no idea [20:34] ok , thought that option might work with webcams [20:35] looks like regular digital cams only [20:35] no mention of webcams at all [20:35] ok === richard is now known as Rocherd [20:38] ok im back.. === alex_____ is now known as Talwin [20:39] i have managed to get wifi to work with the help of that link earlier but now i have slightly different problem [20:39] BluesKaj, it's just annoying me. The modules are loaded, the camera is powered on, the lens is visible, but /dev/video0 is doing diddly in VLC or mplayer [20:39] if i delete the wifi connection then i can reestablish it ok. but if i reboot then it wont auto connect to it. [20:40] and there is no way to connect to it without deleting it? [20:40] Talwin, have you set network manager to autoconnect? [20:40] yes. [20:40] ok, how are you running the wifi, ndiswrapper or with a built in module? [20:41] thats a good question. i think its built in but i have tried SO many things that i dont really have any idea [20:41] easy way to find out [20:41] just press alt+f2, type konsole, hit enter and type ndiswrapper -l [20:42] that will tell you if there is anything being controlled by ndiswrapper, or which has drivers installed [20:42] no output at all [20:42] ok, then it's a built in module you're running [20:42] How is the device connected, via USB or internal card? [20:42] internal card [20:43] BarkingFish, make sure you have v4l and it's libs installed [20:43] ok, could you type lspci -nn | grep wireless and tell me if you get anything back please, Talwin [20:43] i have done, BluesKaj - i have v4l, v4l-conf, all the v4l libs and the like installed too [20:44] nothing [20:44]