[00:00] 8.10 [00:00] kathryn: can you pastebin "lsmod" [00:01] http://paste.ubuntu.com/99308/ [00:04] kathryn: what exactly are you having troubles with your wireless? does it not connect? or not find any access points? [00:04] It doesn't see the wireless card. [00:05] srry the problem is still her [00:05] i can't change the layout!! [00:05] any idea? [00:05] i mean keyboard layout [00:06] S-i-A: i remember reading about some bug like that... i don't remember what was the fix... [00:06] Jinto: you mean it is not showing up in the network-manager applet? [00:06] Odd-rationale, which bug, is many many bug [00:07] S-i-A: something about not being able to change keyboard layout in xfce... [00:07] in launchpad [00:07] I'm completely new to linux, where would I find that? [00:09] Jinto: first. make sure that you have a notification area on your panel somewhere... then run "nm-applet" [00:11] http://paste.ubuntu.com/99311/ [00:12] kathryn: do you see the applet in the notifications area? [00:12] Define 'notifications area'... [00:14] Jinto: be default. there should be a notifications area (aka system tray) next to you clock in th upper right corner. if not... right click panel, add to panel, and add notifications area... [00:14] kathryn: one more thing to try is to pastebin "iwlist scanning" [00:15] what is mean with XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch"? [00:16] is Alt to switch or alt+Ctrl? [00:17] http://paste.ubuntu.com/99315/ [00:21] hello, can I install normal xubuntu on my eeepc 4g or do I have to use eeexubuntu? [00:21] maybe all drivers are in normal xubuntu now [00:21] kathryn: do you have b43-fwcutter installed? [00:24] kathryn: and secondly, do what do you have in /lib/firmware ? [00:24] i do not, and in my attempt to install it says: http://paste.ubuntu.com/99318/ [00:25] kathryn: ok. check lib firmware first... [00:25] it says /lib/firmware is a directory [00:25] kathryn: yes it is... [00:25] thats all it says [00:26] kathryn: try "ls -R /lib/firmware" (it might spit out a lot) [00:27] http://paste.ubuntu.com/99320/ [00:32] ok. first make sure that you have all apt process closed: update manager, synaptic, add/remove, apt-get, aptitiude, etc... then try "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" [00:32] kathryn: ^ [00:32] or do you still get the same error message? [00:33] its updating right now...give me a few minutes [00:33] np [00:42] Jinto: btw, the networkmanager applet looks like this: http://projects.gnome.org/NetworkManager/images/wireless-at-tealuxe.png [00:42] you don't have one on your panel? [00:43] we might after it's done updating... [00:43] ok.. [00:46] brb === britelite is now known as kathryn [00:54] kathryn: ok. so the next thing i would try is to install b43-fwcutter. "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" if you have internet connection, select to set it up as well... [00:59] It's working [00:59] Thanks [01:00] internet and all? [01:00] Jinto: ? [01:00] Yep [01:01] cool! :D [01:01] Thanks again [01:01] np [01:01] enjoy xubuntu! [01:02] hey [01:03] is someone able to give me some installation support, problems changing from ubuntu to xubuntu with grub [01:03] Odd-rationale, thanx the solution was https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xkeyboard-config/+bug/259489/comments/3 [01:05] S-i-A: hmm... interesting... glad it worked though... [01:05] familiar with grub error 15? [01:06] i don't know why under debian xfce or fedora xfce have not this problem! [01:24] there doesn't seem to be an "autostarted apps" concept under xfce, do I need to make a .xsession file? [01:29] hey can anyone help me my wireless on my computer is not detecting my router [01:29] please help [01:30] anyone? [01:36] is there anyone in this chat room that can help me??????????????? [01:38] nope [01:59] ThePub: Applications --> Settings --> Settings Manager --> Autostarted Applications ? [02:01] that a guess? :) no, not there. gnome has something like that. startup and sessions doesn't seem to give you a configurable list, just says "save running applications" or something like. which needless to say doesn't inspire much belief. [02:09] Odd-rationale: I figured it out, thank you though. $HOME/.config/autostarted/ [02:09] just put .desktop files in there. [02:10] saluton [02:10] anyone know why themes in $HOME/.themes doesn't work? [02:11] Kiption: last time I had that issues mcs-manager or whatever wasn't running [02:11] 6820 1 0 13:55 ? 00:00:09 xfce-mcs-manager [02:11] that one? [02:11] yeap :) [02:28] does it use less more or the same resources for a sound card thats plug in pci or on board ? [02:34] can somoen please help me [02:34] i need help with my wireless [02:34] its not detecting [02:35] please help me? [02:35] please? [02:35] someone anyone please help me? === Sinister` is now known as Sinister [03:05] my fan is too quiet what wires out of the 4 do i have to cut so it runs max rpm ? [03:12] how do you get a wifi adaptor to try connecting to an access point again? === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [04:27] Hello [04:27] I have XFCE over Ubuntu, not Xubuntu, and I cannot seem to add Desktops [04:27] Can someone please help? [04:30] WDC: i beleive there is a settings in Appilcations --> settings --> settings manager to ad desktops... [04:30] Odd-rationale: No, you see I did that but they are not showing up [04:32] WDC: what is there? [04:32] Odd-rationale: Just two that it's always had [04:32] Odd-rationale: I put 4 there, and they don't hsow up [04:32] WDC: are you in an xfce session or gnome session? [04:33] Odd-rationale: XFCE [04:33] is it yet possible to boot to ram AND use casper persistence? [04:35] i found a post on pendrivelinux.com from 2007 that says that it was not possible then [04:36] WDC: well, don't have xfce at the moment... so i can't help much more... sorry... [04:36] Odd-rationale: np [04:37] WDC: are you using compiz? [04:37] linuxlerner: Yes [04:37] oh. well that makes a difference... [04:37] :P [04:37] i had same problem yesterday [04:37] lol [04:38] just have to go to ccsm --> general options --> desktop size [04:38] do you have the compizconfig tool [04:38] !ccsm [04:38] To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion [04:38] That's crazy [04:38] lol thanks [04:39] i prefer compizconfig-settings-manager over simple-ccsm... [04:39] ! workspace [04:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about workspace [04:39] ! viewport [04:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about viewport [04:39] ! viewports [04:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about viewports [04:39] !linuxlerner [04:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxlerner [04:39] wtf [04:39] :P [04:40] someone did the viewports yest. [04:40] sudo aptitude purge ~ilinux-image-.*$\!`uname -r`$ [04:40] anyone know why there is ~i before linux-image? [04:42] any ideas? [04:43] where are you getting that command? [04:44] Odd-rationale: THANK YOU [04:44] from a forum [04:44] WDC: np [04:44] lol it was the compiz-fusion channels bots that i was thinking about [04:46] Does it come with monkeys? [04:47] an reply said it specified the package linux-image** [04:47] ball: do you ask me? [04:48] ranflow: sure :-) [04:49] ball: I don't know. may be not [04:50] Okay, I'll try to get some via rsync then [04:51] without "~i", the command just add one more return: writing extend state information [05:26] I'm running eeeXubuntu. After a screwy update a week ago, I no longer have any wireless capable devices apparently. iwconfig and modprobe can't find anything, and i install linux-backports-modules to no avail. What went wrong? [05:33] Could anyone help me find a howto on bridging network connections: [05:33] I've been searching and searching to no avail [05:47] saluton [06:27] hello everyone [06:27] I would like to ask for help [06:27] my Xubuntu 8.10 now lost sound even though lspci, dmesg indicates that the sound module is loaded [06:27] can some1 sit with me to help me out? [06:27] please [07:17] Does anyone know of a program that Ubuntu can use in order to find any hidden files or hidden partitions on a hard drive? My reformatted hard drive claims that 7GB of space is used atm and I don't know how. [07:19] swap? [07:20] I'm checkin in partition editor and it doesn't show what exactly is taking up 7GB. And I don't quite know how to mount this drive to check if it has any content inside. [07:21] is it a new drive? [07:21] Yes. [07:21] how big is the drive? [07:22] 500 [07:22] and it says u have 493? [07:22] no it says i have 465 then shows 7.8gb is used. [07:23] thus giving me a total of 458 free space. [07:23] and theres nothing on it? [07:23] 42GB of space taken from me is already pissing me off lol. [07:23] not that I know of... I just finished reformatting it. [07:23] open a file brower and tell it to show hidden files [07:24] that 42 is decimal to binary [07:24] i've gotta mount the HD first, which i forget how, of course. [07:28] it's ok [07:28] 7.8GB [07:29] illmortal, the HDD is using NTFS? [07:29] nope.... basically before the reformat i had 2 partitions on this SATA drive. [07:30] 1 was 50gb for Linux the other was like 410gb for space [07:31] i decided to reformat the drive and use the full drive as a storage drive. So I deleted the partition (both were ext2) recreated the partition as ext2, and format to ext2 [07:31] fat? [07:31] fat 32? [07:31] and now all of a sudden i have 7gb of ghost data on my drive. [07:31] <_< ext2 [07:31] ext2 only. [07:34] anybody here who knows where I can find a list everything that is in /dev in xubuntu and its ownership? I'm restoring a /dev that was accidentally chowned with chown -hR username /dev/ I have gotten some if not most of the ownership back to normal but I'd like to check if I've missed anything [07:51] anybody compiled kernel 2.8.28 in hardy? [12:16] please help me with usb-creator. i am formatting an usb disc in various way, but NO parition is recosgnized by usb-creator? what am i doing weong? in the first case i made a 250GB partition with fat32, bootable, in a second case a smaller one, in the third case I used an ext partition NONE is recognized by usb-creator. i am stuck. as last case i plugged in an old small usb stick and it was recognized immediatly. please help [12:24] csc__: if you get no answer here, maybe try on #ubuntu or the forums, they might know more [14:55] ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [14:55] Goddamn stupid pil e of SH!!!!!!!!!! [14:57] eventually.. got back the system from Grub... OK booted Ubuntu.. still little tiny screen within a screen.. altered the .conf and put my video card in i810, default flatscreen monitor 1024*768... rebooted looking good.. big screen filling the monitor.. and Yup there it goes again LOOPING back to Log in!!! [14:58] Is this just a bug in Xubuntu http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg449074.html or what? [14:59] lufc, have you tried with ubuntu? [15:00] not yet butwhat about if I try 8.10 of xubuntu the xorg is updated is it any better at detetcing videoi stuff .. I mean damn PuppyLinux works first time out of the box. [15:00] which version are you trying to install? [15:00] 8.04.1 [15:01] nearly 23 hours now look up [15:01] looking at the url you sent, looks like it's not a graphics issue [15:02] well it works fine.. in a little box in the middle of my screen.. but the moent I try and put my card in the .conf it causes this loop [15:03] so now I'm at te login screen again..... if i login it'll lop back here teasing me with a full screen view of the desktop as it goes.. [15:04] lufc, your description doesn't really match with the bug report. [15:04] so i know its capabale of displaying it [15:04] is there anything faster or better than devede ? [15:04] well I dunno what all I can tell you is as above.. [15:04] Sinister, supposedly not [15:04] bug report or not.. [15:05] takes 2 hours sometimes [15:05] Sinister, you have a lousy pc? *cough* [15:06] lufc, did the live cd work in the correct resolution? [15:06] dunno never used it [15:06] pent 4 3.2 4gb ram 1.6tb hard drive space i think its ok [15:06] Sinister, what are you trying to do with it then? [15:06] ok gone into terminal [15:07] edited the .conf again [15:07] Sinister, i don't know devede very well... [15:07] i want the best quality [15:07] my edit of i810 had been overwitten by something and it ws running as "vesa".. edited it again.. log in as user.... [15:07] .... [15:07] ,.. looped back to login again [15:08] back into terminl edit the .conf [15:09] !resolution [15:09] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [15:09] edit out all the pci stuff and board stuff. jus put driver i810 [15:10] log in [15:10] ...... [15:12] looped back [15:12] it never ends [15:12] not very helpful or intuative this? [15:13] !manners [15:13] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [15:13] how do i get back to the graphics setup options [15:13] did you read the link [15:13] ~10 rows back [15:13] and can you login with a lower resolution? [15:14] !mannersback [15:14] Sorry, I don't know anything about mannersback [15:14] oh that one doesnt work either! [15:14] !resolution | lufc [15:14] lufc: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [15:14] the last link [15:15] thanks I'll try that [15:22] To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » <--- sorry this is not being accepted syntax error [15:22] knome [15:23] without << and >> [15:23] ah [15:23] ?dm == gdm [15:23] i have to go now [15:24] i hope you'll get help [15:36] thanks mate [15:36] oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. +this+ looks promising [15:36] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6218755&postcount=11 [15:51] YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!! at last [15:51] logged in on the desktop.. no looping full screen [15:52] :) [15:52] nearly 24 hours later heheh now for bed! [15:52] thanks all... night night [16:07] do gnome themes work on xubuntu? i'm trying to change my theme, but i can't seem to find any except for the ones at xfce-look.org, and those [16:07] well [16:07] they're not what i'm looking for [17:51] depends on what you mean by "gnome themes". gnome uses a different window manager so the metacity themes won't work on xfwm that I'm aware of. icon and gtk+ themes though are not window manager-specific so there should be no issue. [17:52] dayo_: didn't realize how much time had gone by :) [18:07] i just installed xmms over synaptics but i cant find it in my start menu :o -> where should the program be located? i dont find it in /usr/bin ]-: [18:10] Not sure how linux organizes it files (I'm more into BSD) but try /usr/local [18:11] /usr/local/bin even [18:11] robile: [18:11] nitro2k01, thx ill take a look [18:17] if you've installed xmms it should be listed in the package database. [18:17] Rhythmbox, Banshee, Amarok, or _________ ? What do you prefer in Xubuntu? [18:17] quickest way to tell from the commandline would probably be dpkg: dpkg -l xmms [18:17] and dpkg -L xmms would list the files and their locations [18:18] likemindead: mpd, it works anywhere I am ;) [18:18] is it xmms or xmms2 robile ? [18:19] mpd? New to me. [18:19] sinbox, xmm2 [18:19] it's a player daemon with a zillion frontends. [18:19] The-Kernel, thaaaaaaaaanx, that command rox! i will write it down [18:19] mpd sounds good, apparently it can stream to icecast2 as well [18:19] A bit over my head, I think. But cool sounding. [18:20] The latest Banshee is working best for my large library. [18:20] lol no problem [18:22] OK I haven't tried xmms2 robile so can't really help, I guess you'll have to RTFM on this, but same as mpd it's a demon and you need a frontend to tune into it if I read correctgly [18:22] i already found it sinbox but thx [18:57] back [18:57] IN BLACK? [18:58] * likemindead plays air guitar ;D [19:00] haha sorry for the useless comment [19:01] Hmm... apparently The-Kernel is not an AC/DC fan. :( [19:09] * likemindead is away: I'm busy so STFU. [19:16] tsk tsk: language [19:19] * likemindead is back (gone 00:09:58) [19:19] J/K LOL ZOMGWTFBBQ!!1! [19:20] Anyone here use XSane? [19:20] I'm getting weird errors when I open or close it but it seems to work fine. :-/ [19:21] I have no problems except it won't scan unless I resize the scan area [19:21] otherwise I get errors [19:21] Bleh. [19:22] Know of any decent alternatives or is XSane pretty much it? [19:22] well, truth be told: I haven't look ed for alternative, in the end it works fine [19:23] True. [19:23] and Canon is not the best manufacturer for linux drivers [19:23] they are seriously well hidden on their websites [19:23] Ah. I'm using an HP Officejet. Used the latest hplip too. [19:25] I think you're pretty well stuck with Sane, even if it'll drive you the opposite. [19:25] in san E.T. is good for me [19:42] what's the command to use for xubuntu to switch desktops? [19:43] I'm trying to set up my own shortcuts but for the life of me I can't find the command to do so. [19:43] Ctrl+Alt+right or left arrow [19:44] no, the command. [19:44] I can type 'ctrl + f1' [19:44] to 'f4' and it will work. [19:46] I know that xfce is trying to be gui based. But sometimes a simple file is just plain easier to manipulate like in fluxbox. [19:51] huh? [19:51] oh [19:51] Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts tab [19:52] To edit the default set you have to first click "Add" and name the changes. [19:52] well that's not what you want, sorry [19:52] same concept, but it's "Window Manager", then the "Keyboard" tab :) [19:56] (I'm using Compiz, BTW...) [20:17] ThePub, I'm asking for the command. you can't do anything without a command. i know all that. [20:17] in my shortcut keys file I see nothing suggesting the command to change desktops. [20:18] add one? [20:19] no, chage desktops with shortcut key. [20:19] there is one built in, but I'd like to change it to my own. [20:19] unlike fluxbox, xfce actually has a good shortcut editor if you use it. there's really no advantage to editing the file. [20:19] USE THE EDITOR [20:19] ThePub, I am. [20:19] what's the command for changing desktops. :/ [20:20] Hi I just installed xubuntu and My external speakers aren't working [20:20] there's xflock4 to lock the screen and xfrun4 to run a command. [20:20] alienkid, are headphones working? [20:21] let me cheek [20:21] run $aplay -l to see if your OS detects your sound card. [20:21] back to the other: what command to switch desktops? [20:22] sorry not on Xfce right now ron_o , but if you are editing the shortcuts you can possibly create your own? [20:22] that's what I want. :) [20:22] yah. [20:23] is there some who can explain why usb creator does not accept/recognize usb hard drives and only allows usb optical stickys? [20:24] when I try to run $aplay -l the terminal tells me: "bash: -l command not found" [20:24] that's an Elll 'l' [20:24] type in $aplay and see what you get. [20:24] nothing happens [20:25] that's an 'l' after a k right? [20:25] 'l' as in Lemon? [20:25] yes [20:25] you're not putting the $ in there are you? [20:26] I was [20:26] that just denotes it's command line is all. [20:26] skip the $ [20:26] and without it you get results? [20:26] yes [20:27] what prints out? "don't quote it [20:27] does it recognize your soundcard? [20:27] yes [20:27] does your headphones work? [20:27] at least I think so [20:28] quote one line of it. [20:28] I just didn't want you to paste too much here. :0 [20:28] ;) [20:28] yeah, the spambots are watching us [20:28] m00m [20:29] card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC883 Digital [ALC883 Digital] [20:29] ok.. os it's probably in your mixer. [20:29] try $xfce4-mixer [20:29] what would it be called in the mixer [20:30] ok volume control came up [20:30] probably HDA intel.. but don't know. [20:30] put everything to max.. [20:30] and see ifyou get sound then. [20:31] found it [20:31] then just fool with it like I do. :) [20:31] my speakers are making breathing like noises after raising frount [20:31] front [20:32] that has to do with your sound card and or speakers. Not xubuntu. [20:32] make sure the source is also turned up [20:32] as long as you get sound, you're on your own. :) [20:32] * sinbox usually turns everything up to 11 [20:32] how do I test them? [20:33] what are you actually playing CD mp3 line in? [20:33] hmm? [20:34] erm let me check if I have enough lecky to start a 3rd machine, brb [20:41] hi, I turned off the xfce4-panel so now i only got a desktop backgrund. How can i start the panel up in the "default" way again= [20:45] erm start a terminal somehow and type: xfce-panel in it [20:46] oops no xfce on the other machine [20:47] sinbox, i can but when i close the terminal it closes with it. I want to run it in the background [20:48] add & at the end of the command line [20:48] "&" without the qoutes [20:48] quotes* === myrtti is now known as Myrtti [21:01] Hello [21:01] There someone? [21:01] sort of [21:02] I had installed Kubuntu 8.04, but I have installed xubuntu desktop from the repos, it is very cool and fast [21:02] hello everyone [21:03] but how is that changing my system? Have I the same kernel and system number? [21:03] can someone give me a little hint? how can i install xfce 4.6 to ubuntu intrepid? [21:03] juanantonio, same as, just the desktop environment changed [21:03] Elven, I am so new, but I run Adept or Synaptic and I installed Xubuntu desktop from the repos [21:04] Sinbox, so i have Xubuntu 8.04 and Kubuntu 8.04, both the same, both 64 bits and so on [21:04] juanantonio: yes, i know, but it will install stable 4.4.2 xfce and i like to test 4.6 [21:05] Ok, then I can't help you, hehehe, I advised I am so new in Linux and even newer in Xubuntu [21:05] thats ok ;) [21:06] guess you might have to compile it Elven__ or it might be in the beta repositories (sorry don't know how to enable those) [21:06] saluton [21:06] sure i am looking for beta repositories but cannot find them :( [21:07] Elven__: I think it is in proposed [21:07] ask in #ubuntu maybe, more people in there [21:07] ok thanks [21:09] How can I see the volume circle in the taskbar? I can't just do it by Adding element to panel [21:11] juanantonio: what version of Xubuntu are you using. Normally, right-click the panel and select "Add new item" [21:12] Yes, but I can't see it [21:12] I use 8.04 and click that [21:12] should be volume control [21:14] Yes, but I click and nothing happens [21:14] Looks like a speaker with a line along side it? [21:14] I can see up a door, time, transmission item, network and date [21:15] I believe that is a bug then [21:15] You could report it in launchpad, if it is not already [21:15] I don't know, if I enter my nephew's session, I can see it ;) [21:16] It may be conficting with another applet. [21:16] juanantonio: can you try adding the volume applet to the panel? [21:16] charlie, but you know what, I have kubuntu and downloaded Xubuntu desktop, and you know it is not completely compatible, or i think so [21:17] shouldn't really make that much difference as you only run one at a time though (or am I over-positive on this?) [21:17] I have dragged the item and now it is working, thank you [21:17]