=== asac_ is now known as asac === asac__ is now known as asac === jdo_ is now known as jdobrien === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan === ShadowChild is now known as lukjad007 === asac_ is now known as asac === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === coffee is now known as Guest84356 === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo === yofel_ is now known as yofel === animaCCo is now known as animaCCO[ar] === animaCCO[ar] is now known as animaCCo[ar] === fader is now known as fader|lunch === SiDi is now known as IHateGimp [18:54] 5 minutes? [18:55] jcastro: yep! [18:55] ya! [18:56] ah yes, popey is here [18:56] did the sideys come along as well? [18:56] hell yeah [18:56] longer than ever [18:56] * popey is on the train tho [18:56] choo choo [18:56] just grabbing some water before we begin [18:57] 3 minutes! [18:57] i'm unhappy with my seat [18:58] * BUGabundo is ready [18:58] Ging: I'll swap with you [18:58] Ging: you get what you pay for :P [18:58] hi everybody [18:58] move up all...me and ging are swapping [18:58] * popey stands up [18:58] * popey tuts loudly [18:58] hi dpm [18:59] just got a twitt about this meeting [18:59] hey akgraner [18:59] axisys: me ? [18:59] BUGabundo, hey [18:59] akgraner: ready to squash some bugs? [18:59] BUGabundo, ready to participate somehow... [19:00] hey evanrmurphy [19:00] jonobacon [19:00] BUGabundo: from @jonobacon [19:00] hey everyone@! [19:00] oops [19:00] hi [19:00] hey joaopinto [19:01] hey jono [19:01] jono [19:01] lets give it a few mins for people to arrive :) [19:01] darn tab... [19:01] hi jono [19:01] hey folks [19:01] heya BUGabundo keffie_jayx akgraner [19:01] heya pedro_ [19:01] hey pedro_ joaopinto [19:01] hi keffie_jayx [19:01] hi me :D [19:01] what is the irc:// address for this session? [19:01] hey joaopinto ;) [19:01] :P [19:01] need to tell a dude on Twitter [19:01] Hi everyone! I'll just be lurking for today.... [19:01] itc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-meeting [19:01] jono irc://irc.ubuntu.com#ubuntu-meeting ? [19:02] thanks Paul2 [19:02] and BUGabundo :) [19:02] 1 of them has to be close [19:02] hola [19:02] hey boredandblogging [19:02] wheeee [19:02] * popey is driving home [19:02] boredandblogging, howdy... [19:02] hey boredandblogging [19:02] * pleia2 waves [19:02] (passenger) === IHateGimp is now known as SiDi [19:02] popey: drive safely [19:02] hehe [19:02] popey: thanks for clarifying [19:02] alright [19:02] * BUGabundo waves back at pleia2 [19:02] :) [19:02] * akgraner waves to pleia2 [19:02] Hello all... [19:02] hi all :) [19:02] folks, take a beady eyed look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [19:03] hey all [19:03] weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee [19:03] hi Ursinha [19:03] * evanrmurphy beads his eyes [19:03] so, the other day I announced the new campaign [19:03] i tried twitter from the motorway last weekend, it was a bad idea [19:03] and the idea is to kick an epic amount of ass [19:03] * BUGabundo tries to click on the link, but its running away [19:03] to put together a global event in which ubuntu fans get together to really make a difference [19:03] hey nhandler === nhandler_ is now known as Guest76971 [19:04] and to bring innocent bystanders into our devious little meetings to show them the ubuntu spirit [19:04] muhahaha [19:04] and to get them psyched about joining our community [19:04] the great ubuntu conspiracy [19:04] jono: and to kill LP yet again ? [19:04] actually, that does need an evil laugh from everyone [19:04] mwahahahaa [19:04] heh [19:04] * jcastro crests his fingers. [19:04] is there such a thing as an opensource conspiracy? [19:04] hi guys [19:04] mwahahahaa [19:04] hehe [19:04] Can we have freaking laser beams? [19:04] Ging: good question [19:04] * JayFo is a trend setter [19:04] jono: then you shall package an irc script to trigger the evil laugh [19:04] ok, so to make this event rock I think we need two things: [19:05] * txwikinger_work puts his tin hat on [19:05] one millon dollars! [19:05] beer? [19:05] firstly.... [19:05] EVENTS [19:05] we need lots of people organizing events [19:05] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events [19:05] sup L1pe ;) [19:05] Event handlers? [19:05] I think we need to promote the Global Jam in our own community first to get a good roster of events [19:05] there is no point us spreading the word outside the community if we have a handful of events [19:05] I smell an excuse to party [19:05] how about a opensorce driver for goldeneye [19:05] jono: already doing that on regular basis here! [19:06] so, kudos to the Birmingham team for getting the first one on that page [19:06] who else here is planning on organizing an event? [19:06] * JayFo raises his hand [19:06] Will add wales to the list now [19:06] We will have an event in Chicago [19:06] hey jono thanks!!! (q wright) [19:06] #ubuntu-us-fl is having one [19:06] conch, :) [19:06] (even if you don't have a location nailed down, put pending or something in your entry) [19:06] ubuntu-ar in planning one too [19:06] * evanrmurphy applauds the Birmingham team [19:07] (so we at least have an idea of how many teams plan to participate) [19:07] at my house, actually [19:07] if you folks could start making some plans this week and updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events that would be awesome [19:07] jcastro: I'll add an entry for Chicago later today [19:07] I've commented the event the Tuesday during our monthly meeting, we only need to decide the date === Guest76971 is now known as nhandler1 [19:08] sometimes it takes a while to get a venue etc, which is why we're starting as early as possible to give locos time [19:08] I'm not much of an organizer, but I'd love to goto a meeting in my area. [19:08] clickwir: same here I guess [19:08] clickwir: encourage someone else to orgnise then :) [19:08] yeah, I have been encountering the same for installfest [19:08] jono: can we still count if our jam isn't on that weekend? [19:08] clickwir: use powers of persuasion [19:08] mhall119|work: you can have a jam whenever you want [19:09] jcastro: One idea that we had was to setup some live video streams of the events [19:09] yes, that would be a great idea? [19:09] * txwikinger_work still tries to find a way to have Internet and PCs available for a jam [19:09] jcastro: well I know that, but can we put ourself on the list for the global jam? [19:09] what else do you guys think we should be encouraging people to do? [19:09] jcastro: putting presentations online [19:09] mhall119|work: sure, just make sure it's clear that you're early or late, as long as people don't get confused [19:09] or even a video uploaded later, if wifi isn't handy [19:09] I think I am going to merge my installfest with a bug jam [19:09] jcastro: like "how to package" in simple slides [19:09] jcastro: and "how to find good bugs" [19:09] cool, we're going to coincide ours with Florida Linux SHow [19:09] JayFo: that would be great, because you can pool resources [19:09] jcastro: I've read success stories of ppl that helped , even if they didn't knew what FOSS/Ubuntu was. [19:09] jcastro: so at the events people can give short 10-15 mins talks [19:09] right [19:10] +1 popey. I think if we had pre-made presentations people could give, it would be great [19:10] jcastro: we could get more of those too [19:10] nhandler, I agree [19:10] popey: yes, we should encourage people to put their presentations from last Jams under /Jams [19:10] does anyone have presentations handy? [19:10] BUGabundo: I can post one of those [19:10] we can start putting them up there now [19:10] jcastro: stick them in bzr ;) [19:10] jcastro: I'm sure I could get a copy of the one j1mc gave at our release party [19:10] popey: let's go with putting them on the wiki for now [19:10] ok [19:11] popey: I want to avoid having to tell people "go learn DVCS" when all they want is slides [19:11] popey: probably a good idea to stick them in bzr for advanced users as well though [19:11] sorry, folks, back [19:11] ok [19:11] got a quick call [19:11] so so far we have [19:11] I have submerged the phone in acid [19:11] packaging, bug, and translation jams [19:11] and docs [19:11] * jcastro adds to the wiki [19:11] jono: Could you maybe create a wiki page explaining how to setup a live video stream? [19:11] jcastro / jono be good to get approved locos to _lead_ by example [19:12] popey: \o/ [19:12] put "pressure" on the approved ones that they should be showing the unapproved ones how to do it [19:12] ++ [19:12] and of course the unapproved ones can use this as ammuntion for going for approval later [19:12] indeed [19:12] what about the translations jams, have you guys got any ideas or suggestions for them? [19:12] there should be a Big Brothers/Big Sisters, only with approved/unapproved locos [19:12] nhandler, I am not very knowledgeable on that - maybe someone else can [19:12] popey, entirely agree [19:13] jono: Maybe just outline what you did to get the At Home With Jono Bacon working [19:13] nhandler1 theres a package called webcam-server you can do it with that [19:13] nhandler, oh, sure, I can help with that [19:13] be better if people turn up rather than just watch geeks on video [19:13] so do you folks think we need a few sessions on organizing events/ [19:13] I think that could be useful [19:13] maybe by a team that organized an event at the global bug jam [19:13] popey: That is true, but it would be cool getting to watch some other LoCos jam [19:13] (although I appreciat that there is a certain type of person who enjoys watching geeks in a 320x200 window) [19:14] we can definately do some loco-to-loco training between now and then "how to run a good bug jam" etc [19:14] hey tgpraveen [19:14] hey BUGabundo [19:14] nhandler1: it would actually, be kinda fun too [19:14] translations jams may be tricky some of the l10n teams are very dispersed. Maybe coalesce the best we can and be sure to meet on IRC. [19:14] saw your msg and came [19:14] jcastro: I'll try to push it to our LoCo [19:14] we already have the place! [19:15] evanrmurphy: we're having a summer jam in 2 weeks bugs and translations, so we're gonna see how it goes. [19:15] maybe we can make to events,... not sure [19:15] czajkowski: mail the podcast with the details so we can promote it! [19:15] czajkowski: is it global? [19:15] evanrmurphy: nope Ireland [19:15] popey: okie dokie will do [19:15] czajkowski: that sounds brilliant. I'm looking forward to see how it goes [19:15] so can we first decide if we think some IRC tuition sessions would be good? [19:16] yes [19:16] I am also planning on a tuition video on my vidcast [19:16] for sure they are, we did them last time [19:16] I can schedule that for next week [19:16] put me in for 1 or 2 "how to run a successful jam" sessions [19:16] who would like to do the IRC session? [19:16] jcastro, great, can you schedule them today and announce them/ [19:16] also update the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam page [19:16] yep [19:16] cheers pal [19:16] Could we also try to put up some example jam schedules on the wiki as well as some example material [19:16] I will do the video thing on Wed next week [19:16] jono: make sure you pimp the videos ahead of time! [19:17] popey, will do for sure [19:17] will blog and put on the website [19:17] send to loco contacts [19:17] jono, I did mention marketing [19:17] popey, will do [19:17] keffie_jayx, yeah? [19:17] thanks :) [19:17] better put out some kind of notice today jono so I can get the word out here [19:17] hi from Guatemala [19:17] :) [19:17] jono, lots of people interested in getting together and tidying stuff like spreadubutnu and the like [19:17] czajkowski: that does sound great. [19:17] JayFo, I will announce today [19:17] k [19:17] keffie_jayx, ahhh yes [19:18] I think thats totally cool for a jam [19:18] jono, could we explore the possibility of seeing how we can incorporate that post october UGJ [19:18] keffie_jayx, totally [19:18] I think with each event we expand where it make sense [19:18] so, quick q [19:18] who here has a blog? [19:19] m/ [19:19] o/ [19:19] hi promeme [19:19] o/ [19:19] o/ [19:19] I have a blog [19:19] akgraner does :-) [19:19] heh [19:19] promeme: 0/ [19:19] JayFo: eheh [19:19] hee hee [19:19] hi evanmurphy! [19:19] jono: jneves has one too! [19:19] 0/ [19:19] Here in Guatemala we have a Blog! [19:19] para preguntas en español pm a mi [19:19] I can get a blog post out [19:19] jdardon 0/ [19:19] can I ask you all to blog the Ubuntu Global Jam ? [19:20] also remember it is NOT the Ubuntu Global 'Bug' Jam [19:20] o/ [19:20] BUGabundo, jono: 3 actually: personal, ubuntu-pt and others [19:20] jono: I'll post something... [19:20] jono: I'll get something up by the weekend [19:20] I won't be able to go to a "Jam" event or host one. [19:20] :( [19:20] I think we can support to post it into ubuntu-guatemala.org too! [19:20] linuxninja: internet participation is always welcome [19:21] jcastro: Cool! [19:21] sure will blog about it! [19:21] will there be a link on the main site, so that us who don't have blogs could tweet or facebook it? [19:21] btw http://twitter.com/jadi [19:21] somebody else from Guatemala here? [19:21] awesome, I think getting the word out on our blogs makes total sense [19:21] jono: ! [19:21] jono: That reminds me, microblogging is a great way to get the word out [19:21] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [19:21] is the page you want to link to [19:21] jcastro, no, look at the recent tweet on that feed [19:22] @jonobacon IRC is blocked. Tell our regards to Ubuntu Global Jam from Iran. I'm twitting the #iranElection story from a Kubuntu machine :) [19:22] nhandler over done already? [19:22] :) [19:22] yeah I saw that! [19:22] ahhh [19:22] ok, thanks all for blogging [19:22] I was responding to patriconway [19:22] who wanted a link [19:22] I think it's important for those with only twitter to take a moment to join identi.ca and link their accounts, two birds one stone! [19:22] and microblogging is valid as nhaines says [19:22] is already any art/banner designed? [19:22] nhandler rather [19:22] I'll make efforts to get Jam events in Texas and Pennsylvania (in TX now, PA in October) [19:22] promeme: help welcome on that front! [19:23] yep, we'll have something in PA [19:23] er US-PA :) [19:23] great to see more events on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events appearing :) [19:23] damn, we need to add a When column on the tables [19:23] oops [19:23] jcastro, can we use the live-streaming ? [19:23] When we secure our teams involvement we'll post about Florida's events [19:23] jcastro, could you go fix that for me now? [19:23] experienced loco people: I have a added a list for prep tutorials, feel free to add more if you have something to share with people [19:23] so people can specify which dates the jam will happen [19:23] jono: on it [19:24] jcastro, cheers dude [19:24] keffie_jayx: yeah, live streaming would be awesome [19:24] * itnet7 goes to check to see if someone hasn't already added any [19:24] itnet7: too late [19:24] can I put more than one Jam jono or jcastro? I want to do a preliminary Jam to work any bugs out before Oct. [19:24] * keffie_jayx though of identi.ca live-streming, uds style [19:24] JayFo, do as many as you like! [19:24] :) [19:24] Thanks mhall119|work !! [19:25] cool :) [19:25] itnet7: feel free to prettify it with proper links and such [19:25] I think what we really need help with here is helping teams understand how to do a jab [19:25] I didn't want to keep the page open for editing for any longer than necessary [19:25] Will do when some of the wiki activity dies down [19:25] hola fmolinero [19:26] It seems to me these "Jam" events are for geeks and not end users.... [19:26] not mine linuxninja [19:26] I would like to see more focus on the end user who doesn't know anything [19:26] I'm doing a combi-installfest too [19:26] JayFo: Good [19:26] end users can triage many simple bugs [19:26] build days/install fests are good ways to get non-geeks involved [19:26] I think the best way to find doc bugs is for new people to work through them [19:26] linuxninja: I've read success stories of ppl that helped , even if they didn't knew what FOSS/Ubuntu was. [19:27] installfests are fun!! [19:27] * jcastro wrecks the wifi [19:27] fixing! [19:27] :-O [19:27] we had a guy turn up at ours who wanted his computer fixed :) [19:27] hahaha [19:27] completely new to ubuntu [19:27] ok, I am going to schedule my video now so we can announce, one sec [19:27] you can even do hardware testing [19:28] so like, if a non geek shows up with a laptop [19:28] that is the plan jcastro [19:28] popey: today we have a LoCoTeam and a brand new guy is poping by [19:28] fire up a live CD [19:28] get info, submit, done! [19:28] yep :) [19:28] great minds... [19:28] BUGabundo: I think good ideas can come from just about anywhere [19:29] I was thinking an all things ubuntu event...be flexible and just go with it.... [19:29] how do we shall confirm our participation in this global jam guys? [19:29] akgraner, good idea [19:29] promeme: add an event to the page [19:29] we can do the quick talks like jcastro was saying' [19:29] linuxninja: i think end users can get involved in 5-a-day [19:29] promeme: we don't track per person, just groups [19:29] while we do install/doc/hardware [19:29] ok, I guess JDardon can do it, so, we are aboard as Guatemala Team! [19:30] linuxninja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day [19:30] gotunandan: I'll check that out [19:30] ah, jcastro, understood, I mean as Guatemala Team... jeje [19:31] no worries [19:31] are there any other things you guys might need from us? [19:31] you need a brief "how to do it" presentation at the start of each day because different people turn up [19:31] as far as helping you make an awesome evetn [19:31] I think too many people see Ubuntu/Linux as a geek thing. While this "Jam" event is very cool and will help Ubuntu. I think we need more end user events of some kind. [19:31] linuxninja: you are absolutely right [19:32] did anyone post the Running an Event link? If not, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams [19:32] linuxninja: a room filled with PCs is always geek [19:32] mhall119|work: I just added the Jams header to the Global Page, so the instructions should be more obvious now [19:32] linuxninja: I agree as well. But I think the Jam should go on, we should just get some end-user events going on too. [19:32] mhall119|work: sorry to interfere, but the content of this link is completely insufficient [19:32] everyone has a geek inside! [19:32] linuxninja: over here in Argentina team we've been seeing lots of end users but very few able geeks willing to actively participate [19:32] BUGabundo: These days everyone has a computer. Not everyone has Ubunut on it though.... [19:33] evanrmurphy: we always encorage people to run jams on their own whenever they want [19:33] I believe it's very good to try something like this [19:33] evanrmurphy: some do, some don't, some do but not tell people, etc. [19:33] linuxninja, that is a shame :) [19:33] war_: is there something you'd like to add to it, or something more you need? [19:33] ok [19:33] linuxninja: the word needs to get out though, even to end users, because there might be users who want to help but do not know of it [19:33] evanrmurphy: part of the reason we do a global one is for teams to become confident in running a jam so they can do so on their own if they want [19:33] linuxninja: there is nothing stopping you from holding a "meet and greet" Jam [19:33] I think end user training is important, for people that aren't that technical [19:33] WanderingKnight: It's hard to get people to participate [19:33] linuxninja: thats always the way [19:33] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon on Wed 24th June at 6pm UTC I will do a training video [19:33] mhall119|work: i would like to see a clear indication of what the jam should provide [19:33] spread the word :) [19:34] gotunandan: right, that's why we're starting to plan in june, we have months to get the word out [19:34] jcastro: good to know, thanks. [19:34] what shall be achieved and how to do that [19:34] linuxninja: buy them pizza, they will come :-) [19:34] war_: I don't think there is a standard of what a jam should provide [19:34] do i get pizza? [19:34] or achieve [19:34] itnet7: True.. Pizza brings people in [19:34] evanrmurphy: myself and daniel are always available to help out-of-band jams [19:34] get some models to promote! [19:34] Ging: if you buy it [19:34] evanrmurphy: like if you need an IRC training session or something [19:34] itnet7: and cupcakes [19:34] mhall119|work: even if there is no standard, there should be a clear proceeding that users like the ones i represent can follow [19:35] if they organised a global bug jam in bbq season that might be fun [19:35] Ging come to a Florida event, we'll give you some pizza... mhall119|work, almost forgot cupcakes work too! [19:35] mhall119|work: ubuntu austria loco wants to participate but has no clue where to start [19:35] war_: right, that's why we have these meetings. :D [19:35] i tried to follow it but actually i do not understand what you talk about [19:35] Ging: there will be BBQ at the Florida jam === infocop411 is now known as infocop411|AFK [19:36] hey war_ look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams [19:36] you want to include users, but what should they do [19:36] read documentation? correct it? state its unclear? [19:36] war_: talk, eat, show off their desktop, whatever [19:36] promeme: I did read the pages [19:36] war_: each jam page has instructions [19:36] itnet7: can I come :) [19:36] we need to develop those pages to be useful for people [19:37] czajkowski: you are always welcome! :-) [19:37]