=== DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [00:24] akio, yep. What driver? ATI opensource here. [00:24] radeon. [00:25] intel [00:25] not driver specific then :) [00:25] I'm not sure its the fault of the graphics [00:25] right, I was thinking power management [00:26] policykit maybe [00:26] uhm, wait, maybe we're talking about different problems. I get some flickering, but it is not the backlight, it just flickers (I think to white, IIRC) [01:38] Just updated my 9.10 NBR and dist-upgrade wants to remove ubuntu-netbook-remix. Won't that bork my NBR setup? [01:40] try sudo aptitude safe-upgrade === xray7224_ is now known as jessica_lilly === jessica_lilly is now known as Jessica_lilly [01:53] x1250: Thanks, that worked. [01:57] hello, i did an apt-dist upgrade and now it wont boot anymore x, it says "no screens found", geforce 6600 an a tft, any ideas please? [01:57] apt-get dist-upgrade i mean === Jessica_lilly is now known as xray7224 [01:58] hal_9, install nvidia-glx-185 [01:58] okay, i try it, thanks :) [01:58] no, no no [01:59] do, or do not. there is no try. [02:00] i do it right now ;) [02:01] fantastic, thank you bjsnider! :-) [02:04] why during these periods between new releases is pulseaudio the FIRST thing to break, and the last thing to get fixed? [02:04] Where is Crimson? [02:04] iunno [02:05] crimsun, or dtchen, is not here at the present time [02:06] usually they're implementing a bunch of new features and have to fix lots o' bugs [02:11] hmm, cheese webcam booth doesnt seems to record sounds [02:12] pulse audio doesnt show it on its list of programs recording or outputing sound [02:12] no does sound recorder [02:12] nor* [02:17] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333438 [02:17] grr. [02:17] Gnome bug 333438 in mixer "gnome volume applet mute/zero volume behavior is not intuitive" [Normal,Resolved: duplicate] [02:17] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333438 [02:19] because pulseaudio sucks? [02:20] I happen to like Pulseaudio. [02:20] hmm, are you on 64-bit? [02:20] 32 bit here [02:21] yeah, but think about it, if pulseaudio wouldn't have appeared, linux sound issues would have bee fixed. Instead, pulseaudio, the new wheel. [02:23] mm, that sounded provocative, no that I read it again. But is not meant as a flame, or anything, is just what I think. === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [02:25] I almost like pulseaudio personally. At least it can be easily configured to do high-quality resampling. With ALSA you almost could get that same to work, but not quite... [02:26] hmm, I wonder if "cheese" is doing something odd with audio. open gstreamer-properties... it should be set to "auto" or "pulseaudio". [02:30] that did it [02:30] damn gstreamer [02:30] [02:33] i think pulse is great [02:33] its just not gonna be easy to get a preset config for everyone [02:33] its very configurable [02:33] which can be a bad thing [02:34] Don't see much configurability seeping to the end user, though. The GUI is simple enough -- and for the first time literally ever I can pick between meaningful descriptions of inputs and outputs in my soundcard for what actually fits what I have connected [02:34] "I play with digital output and sample with analog input". Amazing. And it works. [02:35] The bummer for me: it mutes the all cards every time I log in. [02:35] i guess im more advanced with the sound things i have now.. so i can see your point [02:35] it seems to mute the digital output for all non-pulse apps for me each time I start pulseaudio [02:35] damn thing, if only it left that "Optical Raw" toggle in peace I'd not have a single complaint. [02:37] oh yeah, and it uses the wrong mixer on my (admittedly buggy) USB sound card. [02:37] yeah dan chens been doing some great and amazing work with pulse [02:37] its just not quite "there" yet [02:37] There's a "Speaker" and a "Speaker 1"... and only the latter works. [02:37] But, PA uses the first one. [02:42] Thanks DanaG, adios [02:43] have a good day, night, evening, or whatever. [02:43] haha, 9:43 PM for me [02:43] handy thing: pidgin plugin pack, slashexec plugin. [02:43] Mon Aug 24 18:43:29 PDT 2009 [02:43] San Fran? [02:43] Los Ang? [02:43] Sacrem? [02:44] Somewhere right about in the middle, between SF and LA. [02:44] Anaheim? [02:45] bah, off-topic, anyway. Hint: check whois. [02:45] not supported in empathy [02:45] yet (i hope) [02:58] i find it absurd that not even an image leak of the artwork drop is permitted [02:58] august 27th is a deliberately late date [02:58] to stifle criticism or potential necessary changes [02:59] LLStarks: what are you talking about? [02:59] or perhaps to prevent others from stealing your thunder. What artwork drop, some stuff in karmic? [02:59] yah [02:59] the artwork drop on thursday [03:00] screenshots of the desktop? [03:00] there are no screenshots [03:00] that's the point [03:00] we've had not a peep from canonical [03:01] weird, i've not met anyone to actually use the stock desktop of any distro.. i never find that stuff useful [03:03] I suppose I use it. I mostly change the background to something else than various shades of poo and orange. [03:03] i do.. especially now that ubuntu is really brown [03:03] i would suggest standardizing on gnome-do's docky.. that's what i use, and if i had the time i'd contribute [03:04] I have a 2560x1600 monitor and I enjoy using backdrops that put data to almost every pixel. The stock backgrounds are usually very low detail. [03:04] apt-cache search theme |grep gnome [03:04] there are more [03:05] alankila: the best stock bg's are in /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/cosmos :) [03:06] yeah nice but low resolution... that only has data for 25 % of my pixels and rest are produced via interpolation. It won't look too horrible, I guess, but I really prefer crisp detail. [03:07] I wasn't aware of these images... what are they used for, xscreensaver's image screensaver? [03:08] I have 1920x1200 at 15.4". really nice and high DPI. [03:11] well, to be honest, I don't like pulseaudio because I has not worked fine for me. In occations high cpu usage, others noice or performance issues. And now something that I can't really ignore: kdenlive just doesn't work! performance goes to 1 or 2 fps per second. Now, I haven no seen that issue with some other software than pulseaudio. And, it has had for me so many issues that I began hating it. BUT I have tested pulseaudio from time to tim [03:11] e. I go back to alsa only when things break up. And sadly, that has been frequent. [03:13] second "I" is a "it". Memory went sleepy. [03:15] DanaG, you're really big on the ol' DPI [03:15] Yup. It's awesome. [03:15] Awesomely smooth font rendering. [03:15] It's about halfway (147dpi) to paper (300dpi). [03:18] i don't know that we have the horsepower to create desktops with 300 dpi [03:18] And on desktop LCDs, about the highest I've seen for any sane price, is 110 DPI. That sucks. [03:19] DanaG: best to just buy the raw panel on ebay then [03:19] To get 150 DPI, I'd need a 20 inch, 2560x1600 display. [03:21] when quad hd and super-hi-def come in, dot pitches will be a lot higher [03:22] Oh, and the transition from 16:10 to 16:9 also sucks. [03:23] It'll be like having my 35-pixel panels suddenly become 95 pixels, in terms of lost screen space. [03:23] s/ll/d/ [03:29] Just tried upgrading to Karmic to see if there were any bugs. I've only been using it for a few minutes, but I noticed that there's two bugs with sound that might be related: === xray7224_ is now known as jessica_lilly [03:30] On a dell inspiron 1525 with an STAC9228 sound card chip, when using the second headphone jack, if the sum of Headphone 1's level and Master's level is less than or equal to 100, there's no sound [03:31] for example, with Master's volume at 11, and Headphone 1's at 89 (sum of 100) there's no sound [03:31] if either one is increased, the sound's there at decent listening levels [03:32] hmm...that's also true for the first headphone jack as well (simply labeled Headphone in alsamixer) [03:36] DanaG, don't webpages and graphcis look quite small on your screen? [03:36] I just had to set Gnome, and Firefox, to the correct DPI. [03:36] ... and set a minimum font size. [03:36] Granted, some badly-coded pages do break, but it's usually not too horrible. [03:44] I think the high DPI is not an end in itself. All that matters is that individual pixels stop being properly distinguishable, and that's a function of the top angle of the pyramid that a single pixel on screen forms when projected into eye. [03:45] One has to admit that many things are a lot easier if you do have extra resolution. Like you can dispense with antialiasing, or defects in that or such don't matter much anymore. [03:48] Yup, for example, I can run HL2DM at 1920x1200, with no AA, pretty well. [03:48] what I'm getting to is that the optimum has to be not far from 96. Maybe it's a tad higher than that, though. [03:48] For me, the 147DPI display is significantly easier on my eyes than any other screen I've ever used. [03:48] The worst screens I've ever used, have been more like 86 DPI. [03:49] 19" 1280x1024 or 1440x900. === jessica_lilly is now known as xray7224 [03:49] I don't doubt that. [03:49] We could still improve the 96 dpi by having proper gamma-corrected alphablending for instance. [03:50] What I am getting to, ultimately, is that as soon as individual pixels stop being distinguishable, you can do the rest with algorithms. [03:50] and extremly high DPI can be a very expensive substitute for just using the fewer pixels better. [03:52] it seems to me that 30" monitor necessiates a certain viewing distance where you don't have to crane the neck when you look around the display. It wouldn't make much sense to improve DPI on this at least: you have to be quite far in every case. Conversely, a smaller display but higher DPI might work just as well as this does. === xray7224 is now known as yousuck7224 === yousuck7224 is now known as xray7224 [04:00] anyway, been hoping for a long time that somebody would take up the task of writing gamma-corrected alphablending but it looks like you have to do stuff yourself if you want to play with something like that. The basic idea is to not do mixing in RGB colour space but in approximated physical luminosity color space. Some benefits would be like reduced color fringing in subpixel rendering. [04:00] but now I have to sleep. [04:01] how stable is the alpha right now? i might install it [04:02] zaccour, depends on your hardware and your priorities. Its a matter of luck and personal experience :) I would say that fairly good, but it also has bugs... [04:04] x1250, i have an msi laptop [04:04] the webcam doesn't work in current 9.04 though [04:04] i tried alpha 4 and couldn't get add/remove to open [04:05] lol. but now i have to sleep [04:07] well, you should try to get some more information about what happened, console outputs, make a backtrace if you know how. You can report a bug on launchpad.net. [04:07] Is the jockey-kde broken? Won't install nvidia or atheros proprietary drivers (even when run with kdesudo) [04:08] atheros proprietary drivers (madwifi) are no longer necessary [04:09] bjsnider: OK. How about nvidia? [04:10] that's only necessary if you don't want a bunch of intolerable problems with your graphics display [04:11] darnit, intel 915 was working..... now display is al glitchy. [04:14] how is alpha on the msi laptops? [04:15] bjsnider: Heh. The prob is it sees I have an 8300 and suggests a driver, but then when proceeding just flashes back again to the main screen without doing the install. [04:16] well,just install the nvidia-glx-185 package [04:16] make sure the nvidia driver is listed in the xorg.conf file and you'll be ok [04:17] then your only problem will be that you're running kde [04:19] anyone fix the problem with kde [04:19] 's package manager [04:19] been using apt-get on all the computers lately... [04:20] you should try aptitude, it can make you really happy in time. [04:20] I never use a gui. [04:21] (because aptitude is so good ofcourse) [04:21] I use both. I have cheated on one box an installe synapic though [04:21] is there a command line tool to automate the "apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get -f install;" cycle? [04:21] does the alpha stage look any different than the current release so far? [04:22] <--one box on 9.04, 3 boxeson 9.10. the karmic boxes mostly work but have issues. [04:23] bjsnider: I also use Gnome and XFCE incidentally. :) [04:23] So far more problems with kde than gnome. === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [04:25] i'm just trying to start a pointless kde vs. gnome flame war [04:25] I like both. :-) [04:26] I have used both too, but dropped kde4 for performance issues. Maybe now that I got a core 2 duo for my inspiron I could give it a try. Also, ati's driver are in good shape, but I expecto that karmic final has better 2D performance. [04:27] x1250: 4.3 on my core2duo works tolerably well [04:28] genii, I'll give it a try right now hehe :) [04:28] kde is getting more fun now, but still not as smooth or stable as gnome here [04:29] what is your hardware dan457 ? [04:29] no prformance isuues [04:29] what do you mean by smooth? usability? [04:29] eeepc 701 though quad core boxes [04:29] more problems with things workin in kde than gnome [04:29] how is the msi laptops for alpha stage right now? [04:29] okay [04:29] performance is fine for both [04:30] good. I'm downloading packages. [04:30] eeepc intel 915 chipset was great, best speed ever, but when I updated today it's glitchy [04:31] is there a new theme yet? lol [04:32] As things have developed, I doubt there will be a revolutionary theme, ever. Just more alternatives. [04:33] and evolutionary good improvements ofcourse. [04:33] i'd like to see more colorful themes [04:34] however i do like the brown/orange default theme [04:35] I'd like to see improvements on video editing. Cinelerra is dead? I've seen no commit for months. On the other side, kdenlive seems very active. And it has a very nice interface, it crashes less also. And... it reads AVCHD files, and everything ffmpeg and mlt allows. [04:36] It has rough edges, I have reported 4 bugs in jut a few days. But videos are completely doable. Very good. [04:37] well, I'm out for a KDE4 test. [04:37] is the package management and desktop stable? [04:43] refreshing! I like it, actually. Looks very nice. [04:44] It has some nice tricks [04:44] I will purge gnome, and use kde for a while. Nautilus is hitting 100% usage a lot, so a nice vacation from that nightmare will be ok. [04:45] too much whites for me tho, I like dark themes. === histo_ is now known as histo [04:58] Trying to figure out why the mini.iso is failing right now. [04:58] ughh. karmic hates me. [04:58] zaccour: there are a few problems right now [04:59] zaccour: as there will be for a while [05:09] as a heads-up, 2.6.31-7-generic breaks encrypted lvm really, really badly. [05:09] why would the kernel do that [05:10] changes to md? [05:10] that's in the kernel? i thought it was separate [05:11] without md, you have no lvm [05:11] linus should be told [05:11] no, we need to reproduce it in 2.6.31-rc7 vanilla [05:12] i'm not terribly keen about losing another two hours of troubleshooting time, but here goes [05:12] somebody was asking for you earlier [05:12] pulse problem of some kind [05:12] make sure he's/she's running the latest [05:13] hi [05:13] it's darthanubis [05:13] (1:0.9.16~test6-3-g57e1-0ubuntu1) [05:13] my most recent update seems to break skype [05:13] is there a known workaround? [05:14] skype is broken due to ia32-libs no longer shipping the 32-bit pulse bits [05:14] plenty of bugs and dupes on launchpad for it [05:14] sorry, but i really need to fix my karmic system ATMM [05:14] dtchen, no worries, that's a big help -- I'll look into it on LP [05:15] okay this system is out to get me now [05:15] mini.iso is broken right now [05:23] lvm users, do not install the -7 kernel [05:37] crimsun: ive already said "lvm users, dont install the -7 kernel" dont worry === crimsun changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the Ubuntu Karmic Koala (9.10) discussion channel | Karmic is NOT RELEASED and may break your system - encrypted LVM users should avoid 2.6.31-7.27-generic | Schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicReleaseSchedule | Please join #ubuntu for all other support questions | Alpha 4 Released: www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha4 | 100 Papercuts: http://u.nu/9gvu [05:42] hmm, should change "should avoid" to something stronger? [05:42] like, encrypted LVM users: 2.6.31-7-generic IS BROKEN. [05:42] or WILL BREAK THINGS. [05:47] or WILL NOT BOOT [05:52] If that's what it is, then yes. [05:53] or: 2.6.31-7.27-generic WON'T BOOT on LVM. [05:59] weird! i cannot get sound from dual apps in my profiles but when i create a new profile i am able to get sound from multiple apps! how do i solve this? [06:03] DanaG: not sure if itll boot on non-lvm. i havent been crazy enough to try rebooting into it since crimsun told me his machine wouldnt boot :) [06:03] upstream rc7 boots though [06:04] so KDE can't play flash and mp3s without pulse? [06:06] kubuntu shouldnt need pulse... [06:07] shouldnt [06:07] * Enable net redirections, now that bash isn't the default shell anymore. LP: #215034. [06:07] yay. [06:07] but in truth no mp3s play without it. And no sound from flash [06:08] you sure its not the two-apps-trying-at-once thing? [06:12] I'm sure [06:13] pulseaudio is starting to become a bad word [06:15] wait, is Flash trying to take an exclusive lock on the device? [06:20] could someone confirm this? Bug #411274 [06:20] Launchpad bug 411274 in pulseaudio "Pulsaeaudio hogs memory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/411274 [06:20] the sound in youtube cuts off when i move the volume slider on the panel nest to time/date/calendar [06:26] are there any new features Karmic Koala will have that the current distribution doesn't have? [06:27] most likely. [06:27] that's usually what happens when you have a new version. [06:29] any clues? [06:29] about what? [06:30] if you are looking for the new features, I suggst googling for "new features in karmic koala" and see what you find. [06:30] suggest === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [06:32] anyone know what {a} means after a package name when doing an apt-get install? [06:40] automatically installed I _think_ [06:40] "man apt-get", and then /{a} (or /\{a\}) might tell you more [06:40] or not [06:41] looks like an aptitude thing, and that's indeed what it means there [06:42] * cwillu pokes durt with the make-sure-he-saw-that stick [06:43] Ow... first time I've seen it with apt-get. [06:44] apt-get has been receiving some attention in the last couple releases, I'm not surprised to see it growing such things [06:44] could check the changelog to make sure though [06:44] !changelog [06:44] changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com [06:44] * cwillu turns in [07:06] is there any way to troubleshoot package install failure [07:07] one of the package deps had a configuration error and want to figure out what the problem is [07:07] package in question is mediatomb [07:09] log is /var/log/apt/term.log [07:10] ruh roh [07:11] it initially failed due to a script already existing in /etc/init.d/ [07:11] so I got rid of it so that when i reinstalled the package it would get past that check [07:11] but now the file's still not there [07:12] where is the faq for kubuntu not being able to play audio from more than one source [07:12] and trying to re"install" the package just returns a rather cryptic error [07:12] I got rid of pulse, now I need to correct this issue [07:12] jetsaredim, and the error message would be? [07:13] subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 [07:13] yes, that's a lot of descriptive words, but not the right ones [07:14] i suppose i could find the package tree in lp.n and see where the error is coming from [07:15] I wonder if there's some sort of verbose output that would give you a line number? [07:16] similar to a bash script [07:17] i tried aptitude -v install, but that didn't offer much more help [07:17] i also tried dpkg-reconfigure [07:17] but that just tells me what i already know - that the package is broken [07:20] hmm - maybe i'll try reinstalling from scratch and see if i can get some better results [07:20] cheers [07:22] jetsaredim, the post-int script might be in /var/lib/dpkg/info [07:34] flash 10 audio is killing audio in kubuntu 9.10 [07:34] JC STILL we can't get sound working without all this BS [07:35] we REALLY have to do this EVERY release? [07:36] lol, blame adobe [07:37] darthanubis: try this , create a new user and test sound in a new user profile, see if everything works fine there? [07:38] sorry, but I can't do anything with rookie advice [07:38] i cannot get sound from dual apps in my profile but when i create a new profile i am able to get sound from multiple apps! how do i solve this? [07:38] I need serious solutions [07:38] and it seems pulseaudio is tied to all my kde apps [07:39] your wish , [07:39] I can just tell you guys are guessing [07:40] darthanubis: since no one really knows the ans... you can wait for final release for product to be better or try contacting the actual devs ;) [07:40] s/for/of [07:40] wrong again [07:41] someone knows [07:41] yes , the actual devs [07:41] wrong again [07:42] darthanubis: first of , my advice was not a solution to your problem , it was a debug to test if something is messed up with your profile or not... it is not a solution but rather a path to narrowing it down [07:59] pulse-rt group is missing [08:20] anyone active or is it as futile to ask as usual? [08:21] rohdef: if you don't ask, it's 0% chance you'll get an answer. [08:22] that's true, I'm just used to silence :p [08:22] !anyone | rohdef [08:22] rohdef: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [08:23] I can't find libgecko-cil or any packages like it. Are they removed, and what do I do if a compilation depends on it? [08:24] libgecko2.0-cil - CLI binding for the GtkMozEmbed library, unstable version [08:24] mac_v, hmmm, I might not be innocent on the "Does anybody" part :S ... bummer [08:24] rohdef: is that it? [08:25] that's from 9.04, not 9.10 though [08:25] I'm finding that with Karmic the PCM volume in alsamixer is set way too high - and so my speakers sound really lousy. however whenever I lower the PCM volume, something (pulseaudio?) lowers the master volume instead. [08:25] I don't think so [08:25] they are python bindings, what I need is C# (mono) bindings [08:25] some forum threads suggest shutting down pulseaudio, then saving the alsa mixer settings - but when I run /usr/bin/pulseaudio --kill, pulseaudio restarts itself - and I'm not sure what's restarting it...? [08:25] I think at least, two secs [08:26] SwedeMike, can you find the first package you wrote in aptitude/synaptic/whatever? [08:26] rohdef: sudo apt-cache searc libgecko [08:26] search [08:27] SwedeMike, no result for mine :S [08:27] try adding more sources for apt, like universe [08:28] SwedeMike, I have all except source code, can it be a source thing? [08:28] I have no idea. [08:29] I'll give it a try [08:29] no luck [08:29] can I have a copy of a clean /etc/apt/sources.list ? [08:30] (or at least relatively clean) [08:48] never mind, I'll just download the iso and copy it from there :) thanks for the help SwedeMike [09:01] I'm wondering if the new pulse audio updates are going to get my sound working. Has anyone installed them? [09:03] i wonder if i still have pulseaudio o.O [09:04] beacuse.. The program 'pulseaudio' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [09:04] however, sound still works.. [09:09] some people who have uninstalled pulseaudio claim that it fixes their sound [09:10] interesting.. might work - since it is not installed here. o.O [09:10] which brings to my mind: i wanted to buy a x-fi titanium. [09:18] Would that one just work? i think i read it was supposed to be included in 2.6.31 [09:31] has the youtube plugin beenr emoved from totem in karmic? [09:34] nzmm: are you not getting a prompt to install the flash plugin? or ...? [09:37] No. Totem had a youtube plugin in prior releases. See here: http://tecnocode.co.uk/2007/10/12/totem-youtube-plugin/ [09:38] But i cant see it in totem and i cant see any package in synaptic that looks like its the plugin either [09:52] i just had updated my system and i see some big trouble. update-manager disappeared. i can even intall it. what is this? [09:53] skazi21101: updated from 9.04 to 9.10 alpha? [09:54] it was 9.10. i opened update-manager and just get patial update [09:54] skazi21101: what changes did it made then ? or did it crash while performing this update? [09:54] skazi21101: if the later, do you have a crash file in /var/crash ? [09:54] no. it didn`t crash [09:55] it just removes update-manager [09:55] skazi21101: wait a few hours and use aptitutude safe-upgrade [09:55] are you sure& [09:55] not really [09:55] but dont see why it wouldnt [09:56] its prob just a dependency issue [09:56] what cen replace update-maneger? [09:56] synaptic if you like a gui [09:57] i mean. if i would like to do realese upgrade? [09:58] what do you mean by release upgrade? [09:58] update-manager -d [09:59] what can do this command? [09:59] are you already using 9.10 or are you on 9.04 [09:59] ? [10:00] already 9.10 [10:01] i would use 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' [10:02] actually 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' [10:02] see how that works for you [10:02] skazi21101: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1248915 [10:06] thanks [10:07] it seems that there is no such version of update-manager that will work with 9.10 at this moment. [10:08] like i said wait a few hours the packages will come [10:08] thanks a lot! [10:09] hi all [10:09] I just updated my Ubuntu Karmic and it doesn't boot into X :( [10:09] :( [10:09] both "startx" and "modprobe nvidia" says "module nvidia not found" [10:09] vak: i had this problem [10:10] vak: flgrx doesn`t start [10:10] skazi21101: oh, did you solve it? [10:10] mvo: hi... a couple of bugs i had mentioned to you regarding gnome-codec-install and the update manager grabbing focus , shall i assign them to you as a reminder ? [10:11] vak: and i was unable to solve it. i just format disk, keeping /home and install it again. [10:11] mac_v: I fixed one focus bug the other day, but please give me the bug numbers and I check [10:11] what it says& [10:11] skazi21101: oh... paifull.... [10:11] vak: what it says in dmesg? [10:11] *painfull [10:11] mac_v: I may work on them after feature freeze, before may be busy [10:11] vak: startx? [10:12] mvo: no probs, they are just bugs ;) no hurry let me get the bug number [10:12] skazi21101: startx says "module nvidia not found" [10:13] vak: try uninstall the drivers? [10:13] vak: yes [10:14] nzvm: skazi21101: unistall all nvidia* stuff? [10:14] ТЩ [10:14] NO [10:14] oh [10:15] mvo: Bug #391479 is the focus grab, i'm not sure if the gnome-codec-install bug is fixed or not > Bug #405155 has the list of all the codec bugs [10:15] Launchpad bug 391479 in update-manager "Child Windows [of Synaptic/update manager] should remain in the same desktop as the parent window" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391479 [10:15] Launchpad bug 405155 in gnome-codec-install "No prompt to install "ubuntu-restricted-extras" packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/405155 [10:15] read some thing about installing fglrx with nvidia drivers. i must go [10:16] skazi21101: OK, спасибо [10:18] vak: try sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-185 [10:18] then log try to restart the session [10:19]