[00:00] do what? [00:00] hey also, how do i change my LAMP server to not start on bootup? [00:01] and for some reason it is running on my comp name (host name 127.0.1.1) instead of localhost 127.0.0.1 [00:02] weird [00:02] Can I 'browse files' with bluetooth? [00:02] actually it is on both [00:03] i need to turn off the live one (host name [00:03] any help [00:03] test [00:07] kal, did you pass? [00:10] funny [00:10] :) [00:10] kde too complex, coming from gnome. [00:10] Too many options. [00:11] waste too much time configuring. [00:18] kal you don't have to configure. but you can if u want :D don't they let you configure gnome? (long time no use it) [00:18] Well, not anymore with Gnome 3. [00:19] thats right i did try gnome 3.. but only from a live cd i didn't try to change anything === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [00:59] is anyone good with LAMP servers? [01:00] !anyone | Newbiathon [01:00] Newbiathon: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [01:05] hi [01:05] hey [01:05] I'm having problems in KDE on Mint [01:05] KDE has Ubuntu sounds in it for some reason. Why is that and how do I disable it? [01:09] hmm... [01:12] I really don't know D: [01:13] darn it [01:13] You might go to #kde to find out from there [01:13] ok [01:13] on freenode? [01:13] yeah [01:13] k [01:13] guess I'm outta here then [01:18] Linkmaster: Wha? [01:18] why would #kde know about Ubuntu sounds? [01:19] Because he said he had an issue with KDE making ubuntu sounds [01:19] I figured that some KDE setting I didn't know about was pointing his settings to play ubuntu noises [01:20] Yea but that's a packaging issue [01:20] not a #kde one === mauricio is now known as Guest75983 [01:22] echo has been running for a week... where does it all go? [01:47] new2net: what echo? [01:52] Daskreech: echo like println [01:52] bash [01:52] What was the command? [01:52] let me check history 1 sec [01:56] echo -e $RAINBOW $DECOMPRESSION_BOMB $RESET [01:59] seems legit to me ;) [02:25] http://www.qtfm.org/ nov available in kubuntu https://launchpad.net/~dalibor/+archive/ppa-ddpbf/ === brayan is now known as ZOBUGTEL [02:38] new2net: I'm thinking decompression bomb might be interesting to get some more details on [02:54] Hi guys, any news on when KDE 4.7 beta packages are going to be available in beta backports PPA? [02:58] Daskreech: that sounds like something out of a scifi movie [03:00] Sentynel: When Beta 2 comes out [03:00] new2net: Or a sneaky bash variable [03:00] Reset is also disturbing [03:00] Daskreech: alrighty, cheers [03:00] Sentynel: that's next week if you are checking up [03:01] Well I have a suspicion I haven't made it past $DECOMPRESSION_BOMB yet. [03:02] new2net: Might kill the process [03:06] Daskreech: I suspect $RESET is like "%you win%" === szal__ is now known as szal [03:11] new2net: I suspect $RESET is restart the fuse on the bomb [03:13] k I killed it ;) nothing but null bytes for the last 6 days anyways. === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger [04:06] Feels dead right now... [04:16] back [04:31] Aang: Worked out? [04:31] I seeeeeriously love kubuntu..it is truly the coolest OS out there [04:32] anyways I need someone to help me with a little problem running vmplayer [04:32] what is it? [04:32] nope. they're still there. someoone on the mint forum suggested I remove the ubuntu folder from my sounds folder [04:32] didn't do anything [04:32] Aang: still sounds like a package error. do you have any KDE sounds? [04:32] yeah. but they're all disabled [04:32] xboxowns: waiting.... [04:32] I COULD enable them but I don't wanna [04:33] When I run it it prompts a message "before you can run vmware, several modules must be compile and loaded into kernal.. [04:33] Aang: Oh problem solved then [04:33] when I attempt to click on install [04:33] no. problem not solved [04:33] I get an error message [04:33] Where did you install vmware from? [04:33] well from the website itself [04:33] the one that developed it [04:34] it says === SJrX is now known as SJr [04:34] unable to build kernel module. [04:34] I don't know what to do from there [04:34] xboxowns: where is the page? [04:34] hold on [04:35] xboxowns: Have you installed the build-essential package? [04:35] no [04:35] xboxowns: Did you install build-essential ? [04:35] where do I get that? [04:35] no [04:35] sudo apt-get install build-essential. [04:35] hold on [04:35] xboxowns: How do you normally do installs for programs? [04:36] well [04:36] VMWare requires the ability to compile kernel modules. Thus you have to have a build environment available. [04:36] originally I download programs from website [04:36] or I use the build in add/remove program of kubuntu [04:36] you know the type in the program to search for and download [04:36] kinda thing [04:36] well let me try now [04:37] amazing [04:37] it is working now [04:37] what was it that I did before the build-essential [04:37] what is that? [04:38] !info build-essential [04:38] build-essential (source: build-essential): Informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.5ubuntu1 (natty), package size 5 kB, installed size 48 kB [04:38] really? [04:38] wow [04:38] Man...the terminal is a very very very very powerful thing in linux O_O [04:38] That's a horrible description [04:38] Hey guys is it true that macOS X is linux? [04:38] xboxowns: You have been enlightened [04:38] xboxowns: no it's not [04:38] ooh [04:38] but the terminal of macos is identical to linux [04:40] my kubuntu natty 64 bit crashed again and again after 4 fresh installations :( I am forced to install ubuntu natty . need help please reply [04:40] Daskreech, ping ^^ [04:40] pong [04:41] xboxowns: that still doesn't make it Linux :) [04:41] Daskreech, can you help you with my system crash? [04:41] Ooh ok ;) [04:41] c2tarun: what's wrong? === harry is now known as Guest13765 [04:41] xboxowns: OSX is a variant of Unix; Linux is a free Unix-like. you can build a lot of GNU software for OSX, and it ships some by default, including the terminal bash [04:41] xboxowns: it's UNIX but Linux is not unix [04:41] cousins though [04:41] Do you guys think one day wine will support .net framework 4 and xna 4.0 [04:41] So MacOS is unix based? [04:41] yes [04:41] i hope so X [04:41] xboxowns: one day but you can probably run a lot of it under Mono [04:42] So......what we learned from here that using Unix base we can have the friendliest OS like Windows or Mac or more? [04:42] Daskreech, dont know, my first my older installation was freezing on kubuntu splash screen, then, I installed again and then after login when the panel appear system crashing after few minutes, with black screen and several lines :( [04:42] The reason why I am using vmplayer so I can install Windows in virtual mode...to run things that wine cannot run. [04:43] xboxowns: virtualbox can do that as well I think [04:43] c2tarun: do you have a /home partition ? [04:43] Yup. I just pray wine become 80% windows comaptible application [04:43] oh that would be sooooooooooooooo sweeeet [04:43] yeah [04:44] Daskreech, yeah [04:44] c2tarun: that's your problem [04:44] but I am seriously getting comfortable with kubuntu :D It is my favorite alternative OS that is for sure :) [04:44] Daskreech, why so, and that same home partition is working fine in ubuntu. [04:44] c2tarun: cause you are not using the ~/.kde directory === SJrX is now known as SJr [04:45] @xboxowns ditto [04:46] Daskreech, hmm..... I think my home partition don't have that directory. Thanks for pointing :) I'll figure out something [04:46] c2tarun: ls ~/.kde and tell me what you see [04:46] Is it me or is stewe in family guy is becoming clearly he is gay [04:46] hm [04:46] maybe [04:46] I really think stewe in family guy is gay [04:46] xboxowns: he's been that way since they started [04:47] ah [04:47] but that's offtopic in any case [04:47] we should totally move this convo to kubuntu-chat [04:47] true [04:47] !ot [04:47] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [04:47] sorry about that [04:47] There is place for that [04:47] Daskreech, nothing, its not there. [04:47] c2tarun: hmm that's more worrying [04:47] So lets go back to the start. You had KDE installed and working fine? [04:47] Daskreech, I'll do a fresh installation and then copy the new .kde in my home partition, I think that will fix. [04:48] Daskreech, that Kubuntu was freezing on blue screen and with points blinking below it. [04:49] c2tarun: this is on login to the desktop? [04:50] Daskreech, nope, just before the splash screen we get a blue screen with kubuntu written on it. :/ there it was freezing. [04:50] c2tarun: oh that's different then [04:51] That's a kernel issue of some sort. You should try and boot without the splash screen ( I hate that splash) and it will detail what's happening [04:51] last time that happened to me my graphics drivers were rogered [04:51] You can see what is failing [04:51] accidentally built the module with gold enabled [04:51] Daskreech, yeah, dont know why that was happening, but I think that started happening after I used a mobile broadband connection. [04:51] xboxowns: Mac OS X is based on Darwin, not Linux. Darwin is a derivative of FreeBSD (BSD = Bezerkely Systems Distribution). BSD is a true UNIX. Linux is a UNIX work-alike. [04:51] Sentynel: Quite a likely issue but I wouldn't say that's what the problem is [04:51] c2tarun: that might have loaded in a wonky kernel module for drivers or something [04:52] I tried mac OS x [04:52] it feeeeel soo good [04:52] c2tarun: ok so that's screwed and you reinstalled. What happened on reinstall? [04:52] loooks great [04:52] Sentynel, Daskreech, after I disconnected that mobile broadband, I was facing weird errors, like no plasmoid no dolphin is opening. I have to reboot from yakuake [04:52] and seem to kick windows on the butt very hard [04:53] c2tarun: oh wow ... that's messing with dbus at the very least [04:53] Daskreech, I decided to change my home partition because that home partition I was sharing with another kubuntu version. so I mounted a formatted partition and then it caused the crashes :/ [04:54] same place ? [04:54] Daskreech, actually I didn't mounted the partition while installation :( I mounted it later by editing /etc/fstab [04:54] You know if it wasn't for the fact that windows truly dominate the software industry let us be honest, macOS x truly is the best OS out there. [04:54] partition==home partition [04:56] c2tarun: ok [04:57] You have autologin ? [04:57] xboxowns: Domination and best don't have to be contrasted. They don't have much to do with each other [04:57] sadly true [05:01] for this tutorial: " http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-linux.html#start " it wants me to login as su but kubuntu isn't a fan of that, so how would i unzip the file to a root folder using sudo? === SJrX is now known as SJr [05:01] Hi Newbiathon [05:01] hi again [05:01] i downloaded the zip to my /home/user/downloads [05:02] any help with that? [05:02] Newbiathon: Right. why do you need root to unzip it? [05:02] xampp has to be installed in root [05:03] root want let me unzip it [05:03] did you see step 2 on that link? [05:03] Newbiathon: Right and that doesn't work for you? [05:04] i can't log into su [05:04] that's step 3 [05:04] all i do is type su right? [05:04] I'm checking if you got through step 2 ok [05:04] no man, step 2 [05:04] yeah [05:04] installation, first step is to log into su [05:04] so it's extracted to it's own directory ? [05:05] su: Authentication failure [05:05] Newbiathon: Hold up are we on the same page? [05:05] First step is download [05:05] step two is extract [05:05] step three is start upgrade [05:05] yeah i downloaded to home/user/download [05:05] now i need to extract [05:05] you don't need su to do that [05:05] i tried to move the zip file into root folder [05:06] wouldn't let me [05:06] oh [05:06] well yeah you aren't root :) [05:06] sudo -i [05:06] yeah i was asking how to unzip it using sudo [05:06] your prompt should change from $ to # [05:06] what does -i do? [05:07] runs an inital login sequence [05:07] press alt+F2 and type man sudo [05:07] Will give you the help file for the command [05:07] Umm [05:07] man:/sudo [05:09] c2tarun: You there? [05:09] ok so i sudo -i tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz -C /opt [05:09] or sudo -i then do something else? [05:09] Newbiathon: no just type sudo -i [05:09] Your prompt should change from $ to # [05:09] that indicates that you are root [05:09] ah ok now im root [05:09] Newbiathon: There you go. [05:09] !root [05:10] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [05:10] yeah root@ [05:10] sudo +i to go back? [05:11] now how do i extract [05:11] the command they have doesn't work [05:11] or should i move the zip file to the root folder? [05:15] Newbiathon: I have no idea what you are doing but I'm pretty sure that you are just running commands with out any idea what they are doing [05:15] no im not [05:15] i logged back into my user [05:15] What command doesn't work? [05:15] the unzip command lol [05:16] tar xvfz xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz -C /opt [05:16] that [05:16] its in the tutorial [05:16] Newbiathon: what's the error? [05:16] im suppose to run that from root but saying "no such directory" [05:16] do i need to create an /opt folder first [05:16] in the root folder? [05:17] type ls /opt [05:17] does it throw an error? [05:17] yes [05:17] tar (child): xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory [05:17] What does it say? [05:18] Newbiathon: what does ls xampp* say? [05:18] so im guessing i need to make the /opt folder [05:19] Newbiathon: No it's saying there is no archive [05:19] no such dir [05:19] on root and user [05:19] the zip is just sitting in my /home/user/downloads [05:20] Newbiathon: What does pwd say? [05:20] specify [05:21] it says to extract it to the /opt folder [05:21] in the instructions [05:22] here is what i need to know ok: how do i unzip my downloaded zip file into /opt === Aang is now known as Aang-away [05:22] that is all i need to know [05:23] the zip file was downloaded to /home/user/downloads [05:23] Daskreech, yeah [05:23] my ? is... do i need to make the /opt file? do i need to move the zip i downloaded to root? [05:24] Daskreech, ping [05:25] pong [05:25] Newbiathon: type pwd [05:25] what does that say? [05:25] Daskreech, you asked for me? [05:25] in terminal? as root? as user? [05:26] Newbiathon: in terminal it doesn't matter who you are [05:26] it says home/user [05:26] c2tarun: I asked if you were auto logging in? [05:26] that is all [05:26] Newbiathon: type cd downloads [05:26] Daskreech, auto logging in kubuntu? [05:26] c2tarun: yes [05:26] no such directory [05:27] Daskreech, nope, I am entering password and then logging in. [05:27] should i sudo cd downloads? [05:27] Newbiathon: no [05:27] k [05:27] -bash: cd: downloads: No such file or directory [05:27] Newbiathon: cd Downloads [05:27] ah D [05:28] ok then i type dir and see xampp-linux-1.7.4.tar.gz [05:29] c2tarun: it was crashing before that point? [05:29] Newbiathon: run your tar command now [05:29] ah ok [05:30] Daskreech, nope, just after I enter password and when panel appears after few seconds [05:30] tar: lampp: Cannot mkdir: Permission denied [05:30] c2tarun: Ok yeah that was home directory problem then [05:30] need to go into root [05:30] gotcha [05:30] Newbiathon: ok now type sudo -i and try it [05:31] Daskreech, yup, I'll fix it :) meanwhile ubuntu supports my bluetooth headset :) so I am enjoying it at the moment. [05:33] c2tarun: nice :) === Aang-away is now known as Aang [05:34] hah, im a genius root@domain: cd /home/user/Downloads then the command yay [05:34] thnx daskreech [05:34] good to know the commands i guess [05:35] so i can only run xampp from root? [05:36] or now that it is installed, can i just go back to the old sudo start/stop option [05:37] Newbiathon: either [05:37] ok cool, im starting to get it now [05:38] sudo is kind of a "go around your elbow to get to ass" sort of thing eh? [05:38] why not just make a root password and switch back and forth as needed [05:38] seperate from user pass [05:39] having a whole separate user account is a pain [05:39] sudo individual commands or sudo su if you want to run a bunch of stuff as root === Aang is now known as cjsnolw1 === cjsnolw1 is now known as cjsnow1 [05:40] having a separate account requires hopping between accounts if you want to use GUI config tools and stuff and it all gets horribly complicated and people get tempted to just log in as root the whole time and that's BAD === cjsnow1 is now known as KatThe [05:44] Newbiathon: You can make a root password if you lik === KatThe is now known as KatTheBlutenBieg [05:50] can someone explain ssl to me? [05:50] the do's and don'ts [05:50] You can also access your Apache server via SSL under https://localhost." should i do this step? [06:10] Newbiathon: what do you understand of it? [06:10] SSL is Secure Sockets Layer. In essence, encrypted web transmission. [06:12] Newbiathon: The main thing to know about SSL and Apache is that certs are a racket. They really mean next to nothing but cost a lot more than nothing. Supposedly a cert ensures that you are who you say you are. Instead, all it says is you found a certifying authority willing to take your money. === harry is now known as Guest7984 [06:14] Or you found [06:14] http://wiki.cacert.org/ === jason is now known as Guest27121 [07:32] hey, anyone know the exact location of where to put test page files in xampp [07:32] htdocs [07:32] ? [07:34] how do I tell Kubntu to copy a folder to my sdcard every hour (overwrite)? [07:37] what can i change language on clibre? i have installed it and now there is arabo [07:37] what is the terminal cmd to make a file? [07:37] like the mkdir command [07:41] Newbiathon: A file or a directory? [07:41] file [07:41] php file [07:46] touch file.php [07:46] ok thnx [07:46] baffone85: Libreoffice? [07:46] DeltaEpsilon: look up crontab [07:51] nano file.php to edit the script in terminal right? [07:51] Newbiathon: That works [07:52] it says to exit nano is ^exit [07:52] i type it and doesn't exit [07:52] sorry ^X [07:53] ^ means ctrl [07:54] M+ means Alt [07:54] so ^x is Ctrl+x [07:54] M+A [07:54] is Alt+A [07:54] thnx [07:54] im starting to come around [07:55] Far as I know no one has come up with a cute typeable symbol for the Windows Key [07:56] ok so i have to put my php files in the htdocs folder inside the lampp folder to test them, however i don't want to stay logged in as root [07:57] is there a way to work in my user account and save files to the htdoc folder on the root account [07:57] to test? [07:57] If you are logged in as root now type logout [07:57] yeah i got all that figured out [07:57] or press ^D on an empty prompt [07:58] how to login logout etc.. [07:58] i just don't want to have to work in root [07:58] but i like to test as i go along [07:59] Sure edit files as your self and save in your directory then switch to root and move it to root directory then switch back to your user [07:59] so if im in /home/user/phpwork and want to save as my files to /opt/lampp/htdocs [07:59] ok [07:59] i just didn't know if there was a easier way [08:01] does anyone know if kmail2 (in RC phase) is being packaged for kubuntu 11.04 in some ppa or similar? [08:01] how come when i type users i see two of my user account? [08:03] Newbiathon: do you have two terminals open? [08:07] hi. How can I sniff data incoming in /dev/video0 ? [08:10] cat ? [08:11] Daskreech: _sniff_ means that the resource is busy === s is now known as Guest86700 [08:26] faLUCE: could you explain what you mean by sniffing? === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [08:36] hi there, is there a way to get TTS to work? [08:37] ok if im logged in as root and wanted to give a user all access to one folder, how? [08:39] Newbiathon: the owner of the folder usually has all access... [08:39] yes, xampp has to be run in root [08:40] i want to let my user account have all access to the htdocs folder [08:40] so i can work in user basic account but still save files to htdoc in the root folder [08:40] can i do that [08:41] Newbiathon: either change the ownership of the folder [08:41] or add the user to the group owning that folder [08:41] that is what i want to do [08:41] the 2nd option [08:41] add a user [08:41] just to that one folder [08:42] so i can work in bluefish in my reg account but still save files to the htdocs folder in the root account [08:42] check the properties for that folder... [08:43] how in terminal [08:43] or kate or what? [08:43] walk me through it [08:43] open some file browser and navigate to the folder [08:45]