[00:13] copying install logs O_O [00:13] I used to run a 486DX-20 as a mail server, ssh server, web server and more [00:14] how long ago did you retire it? [00:14] ok that's 2.5hrs to install [00:16] i'm typing from a VM :) [00:16] Hmmm, probably around 2002 [00:17] waiting for the reboot atm [00:17] i should've just unmounted the disk and powered down, way faster ;) [00:25] haha 4MB RAM free on boot [00:25] to me this proves my point, practically _any_ app post boot would be swapping [01:20] It depends on what is running already though. Lots of cruft can be removed on most installs, especially GUI based. [01:21] it's ok, the OS doesn't work on this laptop anymore XD [01:21] on reboot it wouldn't get past the POST logo, then on a cold boot it has major graphical artefacting :) [01:22] probably got a weird GPU [01:22] yeah, pretty rare [01:22] i did dist-upgrade though [01:22] there used to be a variety but now there's only really 3 for x86 PCs [01:22] matrox, S3, etc [01:22] mmm hardware is my specialty [01:23] impressive, now it doesn't POST [01:24] i think lubuntu killed it [01:40] overheated? [01:49] nah [01:50] though oddly some time unplugged from mains let it POST again [01:50] (no battery fitted) [01:50] i was just installing the b43 firmware package when the graphics went wonky again :D [01:50] Sounds like dry thermal paste on the heatsinks. Older kit really does need the paste refreshing [01:51] it's not even warm to the touch right now [01:54] do you have your finger on the heatsink? [01:58] the earlier kernel is working fine, i really don't see it being a temp issue [02:10] hmmm, weird. I know i've seen about 40% of kit over 10 years old needing thermal paste replacing [02:11] I'd best get off anyhow, it's 3am and I thought it was only just after midnight [02:12] oops [03:04] Hi everyone [03:04] heya [03:04] how ya doing daftykins :) [03:05] mmm not bad ty, the odd slices of #ubuntu support today - how's you? [03:06] doing well thx. [03:07] finely got some much needed rain today, not enough, but some... [03:08] ah-ha, you're not in the ravaged west coast US are you? [03:08] no, southern indiana [03:12] hrmm [03:37] gnite all [06:53] Good morning. [14:46] bleachbit freezes on my 14.04, that's not a good sign... bleachbit is supposed to improve performance ;) [14:55] Wasn't use of bleachbit discouraged? [15:17] was it? [15:17] it's been a long time since i last used bleachbit [15:17] so that partly explains it, i guess [15:18] purged bleachbit... [15:36] I thought I read that somewhere, but don't quote me on that. [20:02] yeah definitely seen one or two users claiming it killed something or other [20:03] but given #ubuntu is often a new user resource, you can't really tell whether that's them or the software... [20:03] Hehe, more likely them :P [20:05] Oh Boy, Holding hands in an attempt to promote our operating system of choice . [20:06] :) [20:13] what's the worst request you guys have had, in a 'support' style context? [20:16] Today someone in #ubuntu-server, who clearly wasn't ready for server management, wanted to install phpmyadmin. It didn't work and he didn't have a clue on how to debug the problem. It ain't the worst but it is the freshest. [20:16] :) sounds all too familiar [20:17] at least it wasn't one of the ones that wants you to SSH in and set it all up for them [20:18] Usually they offer teamviewer, I guess ssh is too advanced for many people... [20:18] XD [20:18] I mean setting up ssh that is way hard! [20:18] yeah when they've got a server with a GUI that's already warning sign #1 [20:18] Ugh, those people... [20:19] you must see it a lot in -server now, folks buying VPSs then installing a GUI, trying to VNC in to run minecraft servers... >_< [20:19] bye bye RAM [20:20] VNC must die. Just like FTP. <-- also something people still seem to use. [20:20] ah yes [20:23] well, a while back a client email'd to ask if i could change their homepage to google [20:24] Hehe, wow. [21:45] even with a vm running, my laptop's temp stays under 70°C [21:48] GPU or CPU? [21:49] mine runs about 45C [21:53] haha just assembling a new NAS with some spare old disks, both are dead [21:53] 1191 pending sectors, 75 reallocated - no record breaker :) [23:22] uys, things have come up, and I will be away from the keyboard for a spell. [23:39] hope all is well