[05:20] <didrocks> good morning
[05:27]  * tsimonq2 waves to didrocks 
[05:29] <didrocks> hey tsimonq2
[05:38] <tsimonq2> didrocks: I hope it's a bit cooler today :)
[05:42] <didrocks> tsimonq2: yeah, I succeed at having 25.8°C only this morning (with everything still opened during the evening), however, we are up to 29°C inside in the evening as outside, it's still up to 32-33 and walls are warmed… But it's way better already, thanks! :)
[05:49] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:00] <didrocks> salut oSoMoN
[06:01] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[06:14] <Wimpress> o/
[06:21] <didrocks> hey Wimpress
[06:26] <oSoMoN> hey Wimpress
[06:32] <tsimonq2> didrocks: Uff, after doing the conversion to US temps, that doesn't sound pleasant! I'm glad it's getting better
[06:33] <tsimonq2> o/ oSoMoN and Wimpress
[06:33] <tsimonq2> (And with that, I think it's bedtime.)
[06:33] <didrocks> tsimonq2: yeah, it wasn't ;) have a good night!
[06:33] <tsimonq2> Thanks :)
[06:35] <oSoMoN> good night tsimonq2 !
[06:41] <duflu> Hi didrocks, oSoMoN, Wimpress
[06:43] <didrocks> hey duflu
[07:05] <amurray> hey desktoppers - any idea whether bolt 0.8 will make it for eoan? https://twitter.com/gicmo/status/1139520601503260674 - IOMMU support sounds nice for extra sekurity :)
[07:09] <oSoMoN> hi duflu
[07:11] <duflu> amurray, looks like it's missing from Debian too. I guess start with a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bolt/+filebug
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[07:22] <amurray> duflu: ok will do
[07:26] <amurray> duflu: LP #1835166
[07:26] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1835166 in bolt (Ubuntu Eoan) "Update bolt to latest 0.8 release for eoan" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1835166
[07:28] <marcustomlinson> good wednesday everybody
[07:30] <didrocks> hey marcustomlinson
[07:32] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, look, Howard's being eaten!
[07:32] <marcustomlinson> :D
[07:34] <duflu> marcustomlinson, Good Wednesday sir
[07:48] <willcooke> morning gang
[07:49] <duflu> Zoinks. Morning willcooke
[07:49] <didrocks> hey willcooke
[07:49] <willcooke> Can someone take a quick look at https://discourse.ubuntu.com and see if they can see the Eoan wallpaper comp post pinned somewhere?  I can't see it, but perhaps that's because I posted it?
[07:49]  * willcooke throws duflu a snack 
[07:49] <willcooke> hi didrocks
[07:49] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: morning. yeah it's pinned top right
[07:50] <willcooke> marcustomlinson, does it say "Latest" top right too?
[07:50] <willcooke> ahhh
[07:50] <willcooke> I think I posted it without a category somehow
[07:50] <duflu> Looks like it
[07:50] <marcustomlinson> willcooke: https://imgur.com/iGS8FSR
[07:50] <willcooke> marcustomlinson, thanks
[07:50] <willcooke> yeah, I did, I missed the category.
[07:50] <willcooke>  Durr
[07:50] <willcooke> Fixed now
[07:51] <oSoMoN> good morning willcooke
[07:51] <willcooke> hi oSoMoN
[07:53] <duflu> willcooke, I feel in the past there's been a lack of colour options in wallpapers. I mean some years if you want something blueish or greenish or pinkish then there will be none that match. I wonder if there's a way to achieve some colour balance...
[07:53] <duflu> At least the primary colours
[07:55] <willcooke> duflu, ooh, interesting.  Could be a fun addition to the wallpaper chooser, to select an image by colour.  But we could also add a new "bonus points" idea to the comp, to say something along the lines of "have fun with colour; try and theme your image around a single colour"
[07:56] <duflu> willcooke, I don't know the answer. Maybe it's a lack of submissions or maybe the final selection doesn't cover enough of the gamut
[07:56] <duflu> Still, we're doing far better than the default Windows 10 wallpapers
[08:00] <duflu> There's plenty of photographers and artists out there. So maybe the issue is that they don't know the competition exists. In fact, this is the first year I've ever seen a link to it before it closed
[08:01] <willcooke> We did pretty well last year with press/blog coverage.  A few places have picked it up again this year.  I wonder if OMG have...
[08:01] <willcooke> ... nope
[08:01]  * willcooke pings Joey
[08:03] <Laney> AVAST!
[08:06] <duflu> Hi Laney
[08:06] <duflu> Yar
[08:09] <duflu> I guess breaking out of the bubble of people already involved in Ubuntu that closely and making it more widely known might help. Somehow
[08:09] <duflu> Because I think most of our users would be outside of that
[08:10] <seb128> hey, good morning and happy mid-week-day desktopers :)
[08:10] <duflu> Hi seb128
[08:10] <willcooke> hi seb128
[08:11] <didrocks> hey seb128
[08:11] <seb128> hey duflu willcooke didrocks, how are you today?
[08:11] <duflu> seb128, feeling good. You?
[08:12] <didrocks> good, the temperature is cooler :)
[08:12] <seb128> I'm good thx!
[08:13] <Laney> hey duflu seb128 didrocks
[08:13] <seb128> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:13] <didrocks> hey Laney
[08:17] <seb128> amurray, hey, I've bolt 0.8 package update started on my disk from 2 days ago :)
[08:17] <seb128> just as a fyi
[08:17] <Laney> yeah not bad
[08:17] <seb128> but I'm not member of pkg-freedesktop in Debian
[08:18] <seb128> I requested to be added but the team doesn't seem to be active in reviewing requests
[08:18] <seb128> Debian -> salsa
[08:18] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[08:18] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[08:18]  * duflu goes back to read what the new features are
[08:18] <oSoMoN> ça va :)
[08:19] <oSoMoN> good morning Laney
[08:20] <Laney> ahoy oSoMoN
[08:25] <Laney> ah bollox, my gnome-desktop3/bionic was bad
[08:25] <Laney> bet I forgot to commit that symbols change
[08:35] <Laney> ah /o\ the opposite problem
[08:41] <Trevinho> morning folks
[08:42] <didrocks> hey Trevinho
[08:42] <duflu> Morning Trevinho
[08:43] <Trevinho> hi duflu and didrocks
[08:50] <Laney> hey Trevinho
[08:50] <Trevinho> hi head-hunter Laney!
[08:50]  * Laney hires Trevinho 
[08:51] <seb128> hey Trevinho, how are you?
[08:51] <Trevinho> Trevinho²
[08:51] <Trevinho> hi seb128, all good... Last Night thumper just arrived here with family to spend some days at the countryhouse
[08:51] <Trevinho> you?
[08:55] <oSoMoN> morning Trevinho
[08:55] <Trevinho> hi oSoMoN
[08:55] <seb128> Trevinho, I'm good!
[08:58] <lis> morning peeps :)
[08:58] <lis> Trevinho: i was finally in your country!
[08:58] <Trevinho> lis: hey!
[08:58] <Trevinho> lis: great, did you enjoy? Where did you go?
[08:59] <lis> sicily.  was pretty interesting there.  saw some beautiful things.
[08:59] <Trevinho> lis: ah, you can't be amazed by sicily... And its food <3
[08:59] <Trevinho> what part?
[08:59] <lis> ya... i thought i'd get sick of eating pasta every day but uh... even after i got home i was still having pasta cravings 🤣
[09:00] <lis> all over the place.  we landed in palermo but drove all around the island and i flew home from catania
[09:00] <Laney> :D
[09:00] <lis> roads were completely awful lol
[09:01] <lis> stayed in trapani and ragusa
[09:02] <Trevinho> lis: yeah... That's a problem with the regional government, so money flow there, and we don't know where it goes (actually we know, but... hard to track). Anyways, the beauty of the contrasts :P
[09:02] <Trevinho> lis: ah, ragusa and those areas are amazing... Went to Siracusa too?
[09:06] <oSoMoN> morning lis
[09:48] <duflu> Huh. Launchpad git doesn't tell you about conflicts?
[09:49] <duflu> It does for bzr
[09:49] <duflu> Maybe I am spoiled by gitlab and remember incorrectly. Maybe you always had to manually rebase to find out
[09:50] <duflu> Laney, btw next update please consider https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+git/mutter/+merge/368536
[09:59] <Laney> duflu: right. If Trevinho thinks it's good maybe he could say so on the MR?
[11:03] <amurray> seb128: awesome - thanks
[14:07] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, there are newer hplip versions in Debian, could you have a look if we should sync that update?
[14:08] <seb128> kenvandine, there have also newer flatpak and xdg portals that might be worth looking at
[14:12] <kenvandine> i'm sure ahayzen will be pinging me about those :)
[14:13] <seb128> Laney, do you remember the history/context for http://launchpadlibrarian.net/295402361/libpcap_1.8.1-3_1.8.1-3ubuntu1.diff.gz ? was that sent to upstream/debian? we still have it as our only distro diff on that package, would be nice to get back in sync
[14:13] <seb128> kenvandine,  :)
[14:16] <Laney> seb128: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846241
[14:16] <ubot5> Debian bug 846241 in libpcap0.8 "Upstream commit d81eb812e679d3f2b4f025cc729b415203889377 breaks bustle" [Normal,Fixed]
[14:17] <seb128> Laney, ah, thx, I wonder why I didn't see it
[14:17] <Laney> there's nothing get back in sync with though, unless you like versions which are only in experimental
[14:17] <seb128> the world is only in experimental since they are frozen...
[14:18] <Laney> that was not the case on 2018-11-04
[14:18] <Laney> and even if it was, that fact alone is not enough to make everything in experimental OK to sync automatically
[14:19] <seb128> sure, I didn't say it was
[14:19] <Laney> ok
[14:20] <seb128> this cycle is better that next for pulling updated versions though so I'm looking at what we should take on
[14:20] <seb128> that one feels like one we should have for the LTS
[14:20] <Laney> I have no idea about libpacp version 1.9.0
[14:20] <seb128> I will check with security team before syncing was
[14:20] <Laney> if you worked out somehow tha tthis is a good version
[14:20] <seb128> Laney, thx!
[14:20] <Laney> then feel free to do it
[14:20] <seb128> sorry for overlooking the BTS bug
[14:21] <seb128> the patch/changelog has no reference and the bug title commit id got me confused
[14:21] <seb128> thx for the reply :)
[14:29] <oSoMoN> marcustomlinson, looks like all the libreoffice SRUs are through, well done!
[14:29] <marcustomlinson> yeah eventually :P
[14:30] <marcustomlinson> thanks oSoMoN
[14:40] <ahayzen[m]> kenvandine, :-) i was going to file a syncrequest for 1.4.2 of flatpak later today, but if you could do before that'd be awesome :-) And xdg-desktop-portal still looks the same as when we discussed before (updated but with pipewire disabled, so probably a good point to sync)
[14:41] <kenvandine> ahayzen[m]: i can do a sync on those
[14:41] <kenvandine> as long as pipewire is still disabled ;)
[14:41] <ahayzen[m]> awesome thanks! :-)
[14:42] <kenvandine> so flatpak and xdg-desktop-portal?
[14:42] <kenvandine> what about xdg-desktop-portal-gtk?
[14:42] <ahayzen[m]> and probably xdg-desktop-portal-gtk ?
[14:46] <GunnarHj> Hi desktoppers!
[14:46] <GunnarHj> Anybody who is in the mood to sponsor bug #1728012? Debian fix backported to bionic. Small debdiff - fixes an ugly regression.
[14:46] <ubot5> bug 1728012 in sane-backends (Ubuntu Bionic) "Many 3rd party scanner drivers are broken by a sane change" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1728012
[14:48] <ahayzen[m]> is there any plan long term about pipewire ? i saw it has a MIR filed, is it just waiting on security review etc before it can be in main ? Or is it also deemed too unstable/intrusive to be used in the next LTS ?
[14:50] <seb128> ahayzen[m], we didn't discuss much, but imho it's too new for the next LTS
[14:50] <seb128> no way at least for it to replace pulseaudio by then
[14:50] <seb128> if it's on the side for some other feature who knows...
[14:52] <ahayzen[m]> right i suspected that :-)
[15:39] <oSoMoN> didrocks, seb128: I need an archive admin to accept the NEW firefox-geckodriver package (see bug #1831204 for details), if you don't mind
[15:39] <ubot5> bug 1831204 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Package geckodriver" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1831204
[15:39] <seb128> oSoMoN, let me look
[15:39] <oSoMoN> that's fast, thanks :)
[15:42] <seb128> oSoMoN, looks fine, easy binary, NEWed now
[15:42] <oSoMoN> cheers!
[15:43] <seb128> yw!
[15:44] <didrocks> seems like I was beaten up :)
[15:45] <Laney> haha
[15:46] <Laney> didrocks: "beaten up" means something that I don't think you mean in english (maybe only british english?)
[15:46] <Laney> unless you do mean that... in which case HUGS!
[15:47] <didrocks> Laney: well, if you look at me, you can maybe think that I'm accurate (I fall down today when running again) :p
[15:47] <Laney> oh no :(
[15:47] <Laney> definitely hugs then
[15:47]  * didrocks hugs back
[15:47] <Laney> is it bad?
[15:48] <didrocks> more impressive than bad, but yeah, bleeding from both arms, hands and knees
[15:48] <didrocks> the worst is that it's the 3rd time I'm falling at the exact same spot…
[15:48] <Laney> 😭
[15:48] <Laney> in the park?
[15:48] <didrocks> (in course of many years)
[15:48] <didrocks> yeah, near the lake, there are roots that are really small
[15:55] <oSoMoN> FTR, I didn't beat didrocks up, I'm not that kind of person
[15:56] <oSoMoN> and sorry to hear that didrocks, sounds like extreme running!
[15:57] <didrocks> oSoMoN: rather extreme "being distracted" ;)
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[18:30] <willcooke> Can haz Hexchat
[18:33] <teward> willcooke: it's already in the repos I believe.
[18:34] <willcooke> teward, yeah, I had to install a new hdd today, so I just restored my hexchat config :)  It's taken me alllllllll day
[18:38] <willcooke> and with that... away
[18:38] <willcooke> night all
[20:10] <oSoMoN> good night all