[00:02] EagleScreen: the relevant file is /usr/share/kde4/apps/solid/actions/gwenview_importer.desktop [00:02] maybe the problem is that there are two groups in that file [00:04] I dont uderstand what you mean [00:05] any file is translated I think [00:14] adding the tipical line: Name[es]=Abrir con el Gestor de Archivos; makes it translated [00:16] this files are provided by kdebase-workspace (source) [00:23] EagleScreen: yes, but we strip those and look up the translations with X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain [00:23] bottom line is that we need to patch either the device notifier applet or something in kde4libs [00:24] oh [00:25] shadeslayer: It's the last thing we're waiting to merge from Debian and it's blocking 4.6.0 packaging .... [00:30] ScottK: does ffmpegthumbs work with that patch? [00:31] like at runtime [00:31] also, did you try contacting the maintainer? [00:31] No idea. [00:31] No. Just asked our libav maintainer how to fix it. [00:31] That was his recommendation. [00:31] If it doesn't work, it's not because of that patch. [00:32] well, yeah, just saying, there is little point in making stuff build if it does not work [00:32] ScottK: if you have a minute, it would be cool if you could try it [00:33] It's just a function rename in libav. [00:33] * ScottK isn't running oneiric, so can't test it soon. [00:34] Anyone got an oneiric install they can see if ffmpegthumbs works in? === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [06:40] morning === hunger_ is now known as hunger === transitlogger is now known as apachelogger [10:08] apachelogger: pkg-kde-tools currently adds the X-Ubuntu-Gettext... key to the end of desktop files, but it should put it into the [Desktop Entry] group [10:08] or am I wrong? [10:19] debfx: what else would be in there? [10:20] i.e. in what case would EOF != partOf(DesktopEntry) [10:20] apachelogger: solid actions [10:20] where may they be found? [10:21] e.g. /usr/share/kde4/apps/solid/actions/gwenview_importer.desktop [10:21] debfx: yeah [10:21] very wrong [10:21] <3 l10n architecture [10:23] also I noticed that the translations in .notifyrc files aren't stripped [10:24] debfx: they are not .desktop files :P [10:24] by the definition of the mangler anyway [10:25] actually, I was thinking about poking upstream to adopt a new l10n system similar to what we do [10:25] loading the l10n from mo files makes sense in terms of up-to-dateness [10:25] apachelogger: yeah, but which part does the mangling? [10:25] like if you have a desktop file and copy it to your autostart dir [10:25] it will have outdated l10n at some point [10:25] debfx: something with mangler in the name [10:25] pkgmangler or something [10:27] ah ok, I thought pkg-kde-tools would do that [10:28] at what point should the sun-java packages be renamed to oracle-java? [10:53] ScottK: i won't be able to do before 10th, so if someone else wants to take it up, i'll remove my name [11:02] Mamarok: not liking kubuntu-devel any more? [11:03] apachelogger: so like, see you at DS :D [11:04] oh [11:05] Mamarok: happy birthday!!! [11:08] * jussi waves to davmor2 [11:08] jussi: told you it was here that I'd heard of your nick :D [11:08] hehe [11:09] how are things davmor2? anything interestinghappened? [11:09] jussi: yes thanks :) [11:22] shadeslayer: huh? [11:22] apachelogger: pm [11:22] shadeslayer: I dont see no nothing [11:27] Riddell: why do you think that? [11:27] shadeslayer: thank you :) [11:27] Mamarok: I got an unsubscribe notice [11:27] whut? [11:27] that was certainly not me! [11:28] jussi: how are thing with you? did you learn anything interesting at UDS? [11:29] Riddell: but I did indeed not get any mail since May 29th [11:29] actually May 23rd [11:29] hm, not true, that was a cross-post to kde@ [11:30] so the last mail is from May 13 [11:30] the day I was moving [11:31] davmor2: learnt lots, was very cool. Currently a very exciting time atm, with the baby coming. Went to the ultrasound this morning, saw the heartbeat etc :=) [11:32] Riddell: how is this even possible? I was subscribed with various mail addresses so I could post from more than one, all gone [11:32] I am certain I did not unsubscribe [11:33] jussi: prey for a boy, girls are too much trouble ;) especially when they are older :) "What do you mean your seeing a boy! Your 21 you don't see boys yet!" and you know it.... [11:33] hahahahah [11:58] Quintasan: Can you merge kdepim? As usual shadeslayer is too busy to do actual work. [11:59] davmor2: What I tell them (having three girls) is "You aren't allowed to date until after you're married." Eventually they realize that's unlikely to produce a result they are interested in. [12:01] ScottK: I found sharpening a BIG knife on the doorstep put off potential boys :D [12:01] I did have to give one a speech on proper behavior once. [12:02] Later the $DAUGHTER in question told me "We had talked about it. We were going to kiss, but then he said he was afraid if you caught us you'd beat him up." [12:03] To which I thought "Win". [12:27] the avahi package dropped support for qt3, which kde3libs requires [12:27] so I guess we just let it die this cycle [12:30] It's removed from Debian, so it should go. [12:32] we first need to merge papaya, gambas2 and regina-normal from Debian [12:32] then we can remove kdelibs and kdewebdev-kde3 [12:34] I already filed a sync request for regina-normal. [12:36] I'll have a look at papaya [12:45] ScottK: you are a very scary man... [12:46] People tell me that, but I don't see it myself. === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work [12:53] bug #794513 :) [12:53] Launchpad bug 794513 in kdewebdev-kde3 (Ubuntu) "Please remove kdelibs and kdewebdev-kde3 from the archive" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794513 [12:56] shadeslayer: project neon wont update my stuff unless I specifically ask it to install certain things, right? === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [13:50] Hrm, I just noticed our partition/disk manager has back up and restore of partitions, which is damn cool. [14:18] apachelogger: why do we have 3 implementations of the desktop file processing in pkg-kde-tools? ^^ [14:19] that should be converted into a dh_kde_translations script [14:19] jussi: eh what? all of p-n's deps are inside the ppa [14:20] jussi: so everything is installed in /opt [14:23] ScottK: i find it weird being so close in age to your daughter [14:24] If age is a state of mind, there are probably days you're older than I am. [14:25] heh if age is a state of mind, then im older than my passport says. had someone boggle when he found out i wasnt in my late 20s === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [14:48] debfx: ScottK: so, i found that the crash was impact a lot of QML apps. Using -fno-strict-aliasing seems to workaround it and lead to no crash anymore (gcc 4.6 should be more agressive with this optimization). I reported upstream the relevant logs of warning and push meanwhile a new Qt with this [14:48] + https://code.launchpad.net/~utouch-team/qt/touch-end-fix/+merge/63417 btw [14:49] fabo: ^^^ Thoughts? [14:51] debfx: so we can haz fun [14:54] I am going to berlinz \o/ [15:01] for the desktop summit? [15:01] yes [15:03] see you there then :) [15:03] * apachelogger hugs didrocks [15:04] * didrocks hugs apachelogger back [15:19] ScottK: it needs upstream review (most likely ddenis) [15:19] didrocks: ^^^ [15:20] ScottK: you mean, about https://code.launchpad.net/~utouch-team/qt/touch-end-fix/+merge/63417 ? [15:20] didrocks: Yes. [15:20] fabo: I don't know ddenis, can you ensure he's aware of that please? [15:20] ScottK: ok, just pushing the build change right now [15:21] didrocks: how xinput2.1 is implemented? I'm curious [15:21] fabo: I think it's rather a question for cnd [15:21] didrocks: sure, I'll ask him [15:21] cnd: ^^ [15:21] fabo: thanks :) [15:22] fabo, ScottK, didrocks: ddenis may be able to review it, but he's no longer working on multitouch for qt [15:23] I'm not sure how responsive he will be [15:23] cnd: nobody else is working on it ;) [15:23] I am :) [15:24] cnd: it depends of the pov, that's why I'm asking how xinput2.1 is implemented? [15:24] I don't see the Qt xinput2 patch applied so it's something else [15:25] fabo, the patch should be applied [15:25] if not, it may be because ScottK backed it out at one point? [15:26] let me check [15:26] IIRC I didn't back it out. [15:26] There's a milestoned bug for Alpha 2 about the wacom issue. [15:27] ok [15:27] fabo, it's all in patch kubuntu_28_xi2.1.patch [15:27] it really needs to be cleaned up [15:28] ddenis just handed it to me and I fixed up some bugs and added it to the package [15:28] it doesn't really implement XI 2.0 [15:28] just the multitouch part from XI 2.1 [15:29] I have XI2 in meego and another path on top to support multiple device [15:29] s/path/patch [15:36] fabo, ddenis told me they would likely never add XI 2.0 support as it requires a lot of work, there are some corner-case issues with XI 2.0, and there's not much benefit [15:36] I should say that here I mean "Nokia would likely never add the support" [15:36] I'm sure if someone else did the work it could be merged :) [15:37] is your patch for XI 2.0? [15:38] yes, it's for XI 2.0 [15:38] interesting [15:38] KDE 4.6.4 is released. [15:38] can you check to see if it's basically what is in the patch we have for xi 2.1? [15:38] cause ddenis took some existing XI 2.0 code and added multitouch to it [15:39] it's just that the XI 2.0 code didn't really do much at the time [15:41] I'll check what we have in Ubuntu compared to MeeGo [15:43] fabo, thanks :) [15:44] either way, is there anything I can do to push the multitouch fix through? [15:44] it's really causing issues for some of our other developers who are wanting to use qml toucharea :) [16:16] cnd: I'll merge the branch [16:16] debfx, thanks :) [16:18] debfx: wait, doing it then, as I've the other change pending [16:19] didrocks: sorry, I've already pushed the changes [16:19] debfx: ok, I'll handle the conflict and redo my changes then [16:21] shouldn't be too difficult as it only touched the changelog and the xinput patch [16:22] yeah, bzr rebase helped as well [16:27] what is the channel for kubuntu meeting? [16:28] c2tarun: #ubuntu-meeting. [16:28] Or not. I don't see it on the schedule. [16:29] DarkwingDuck: When/where are we meeting? === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [17:14] cnd: denis disagreess. He'll comment on the patch [17:14] fabo, ok [17:14] thanks for scrounging him up :) [17:23] fabo, so there's a slightly better way to do it, and I will work on getting it updated [17:23] in the meantime, it is definitely better than before :) [17:23] great :) [17:52] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [17:52] <_Groo_> anyone knows why nspluginwrapper is segfaulting in natty? [18:03] ScottK: it should be on the wiki and i sent an email [18:04] im rushing home right now. (wife driving) [18:18] ScottK: meeting in just under 3 hours [18:28] DarkwingDuck: I think ScottK was referring to the fact that our meeting isn't on the #ubuntu-meeting schedule [18:28] ScottK: talked to ev about the prepare patch, made adjustments based on his review, waiting for re-review [18:29] ScottK: is shtylman gone for good? cjwatson says he's the one that wrote the keyboard stuff on kubuntu's installer [18:39] dpm: why is the app-install-data template in the gnome language pack? it really should be in the default one [18:41] I filed a bug about that, sec [18:41] bug 649339 [18:42] Launchpad bug 649339 in Ubuntu Translations "app-install-data.mo is in -gnome language packs when it is useful in other DE's" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649339 [18:42] looks like it should be fixed once lang-packs start generating for oneiric [18:42] debfx: ^ [18:47] JontheEchidna: aha ok, I wonder why we don't get feedback about such l10n issues [18:47] debfx: feedback from users? [18:47] yeah [18:48] oh you filed that bug in 2010 [18:48] I think Intrepid and jaunty may have scared them all off [18:48] (international users) [18:50] maco: shtylman doesn't use KDE anymore, so probably. [18:50] possibly but we seem to have at least a few italian translators that care about kubuntu [18:51] JontheEchidna: the categories aren't translated in muon sc [18:51] debfx: yeah, not sure how to go about translating a custom xml file [18:52] well, it's standard XML, but it's not something that I can just i18n() [18:52] since it's XML and all [18:53] ScottK: we lost him? [18:53] Yup. [18:57] debfx: I think if I can generate a .pot from the xml I can wrap the code where I grab the category names with i18n(), and everybody should be happy [18:58] JontheEchidna: where does that xml file come from? [18:58] /usr/share/kde4/apps/muon-installer/categories.xml [18:59] In the source, it's installer/categories.xml [19:10] evening === rdieter is now known as rdieter_work === rdieter_work is now known as rdieter [20:51] GARRRRRRG [20:54] meeting in 6 min it appears [20:54] Yup [20:55] And my HD JUST arrived. So, while I'm installing everything I'll be attending via my phone. [20:56] ScottK, Riddell_, neversfelde: around? [20:56] Yes [20:56] DarkwingDuck: sounds inconvenient to me :P [20:56] apachelogger: yes [20:56] apachelogger: yes it is [20:56] perfect [20:56] DarkwingDuck should probably complain to the guy that scheduled the meeting. [20:56] ScottK: yeah i've ripped him a new one lol [20:57] could be worse... but i dont have my notes from spec reviews [20:58] on my sd card [20:59] oh well, ill go off of memory as much as i can :D [21:02] rbelem, fabo: meeting in #ubuntu-meeting now === yofel_ is now known as yofel [21:28] debfx, there is a bug about that, and IIRC it should be fixed in the next natty langpack [21:29] debfx, bug 649339 [21:29] Launchpad bug 649339 in Ubuntu Translations "app-install-data.mo is in -gnome language packs when it is useful in other DE's" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/649339 [21:29] (we'll be releasing the next natty langpack this week) [21:30] dpm: thanks, good to know that it'll be fixed soon [21:30] ^^ === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [21:31] * yofel continues with 4.6.4 [21:51] debfx: thanks for the patch [21:53] debfx: I think it should work in theory. If the strings appear next time script runs then we'll know that it should be working [21:53] * ScottK hints at JontheEchidna that he should be paying attention to the meeting. [21:53] oh, is that now? [21:54] started almost an hour ago. [21:54] eek [21:54] my conversion is off [21:56] ack, I also have a piano recital I have to go to in 5 minutes :( [21:57] forgot about that [22:04] debfx: One thing, I need to change the i18n call to this: m_name = i18nc("Category", tempElement.text().toUtf8()); [22:04] ScottK: i messaged shtylman on twitter and he said the reason kde/gtk are different on the keyboard thing is that gtk one doesnt display the kbd image and he'll try to get a chance to take a look at that bug and point me in the right direction [22:04] i18n can't handle QString [22:05] Cool [22:14] rbelem: are you awake now? ^^ [22:14] apachelogger, yup [22:15] apachelogger, i missed the meeting :-( [22:15] no [22:15] still going on [22:15] plz join [22:15] oh! [22:15] great :-D [22:22] JontheEchidna: oh, the no testing included not having done a test build ^^ [22:32] Riddell_: Oh, by the way, did you take a glance at that out of memory magic in bzr? [22:32] Quintasan: we want plasma-active in neon, in fact, we want a snapshot ASAP in oneiric IMHO [22:33] afiestas can help with that [22:33] Quintasan: it's https://launchpad.net/bugs/746822 [22:33] Ubuntu bug 746822 in Launchpad itself "fails to build recipe with "bzr: out of memory"" [High,Triaged] [22:33] Quintasan: thoughts are to try installing a newer bzr on those machines, the current one is quite old [22:33] Riddell_: yeah, showstopper for our kdelibs, something and calligra builds [22:34] kdelibs kde-workspace kdepim calligra [22:35] go go kubuntu-council administrators [22:35] \o/ [22:35] * yofel goes back to 4.6.4 [22:36] win 24 [22:36] oops [22:36] ^^ [22:36] irssi fail [22:36] :P [22:36] * Quintasan goes back to chemistry then [22:36] apachelogger: Remind me at Saturday [22:37] since I'm trying to learn something for tomorrow and I will be drinking after I am done with that boring school stuff [22:39] bug #794760 needs a core-dev ack [22:39] Launchpad bug 794760 in cmake (Ubuntu) "Sync cmake 2.8.4+dfsg.1-3 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/794760