[01:27] so are the repos broken? [01:27] i get 404s when i dist-upgrade [01:57] is there any news on what is causing wireless networking problems? [03:55] when I try to shut down my system in vbox, it hangs and refuses to power down if i click X, and reset does nothing. === idleone is now known as IdleOne [03:58] My computer shutdown for no apparent reason and when I turned it back on all I get is a black screen after grub screen. What can I do? === nickmoeck_ is now known as nickmoeck === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG [09:21] who got the idea to make the image larger than 700mb :( === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ === CardinalFang__ is now known as CardinalFang [11:52] will kpackagekit be available for oneiric in the repositories as well? [11:52] or is there Muon only? [12:02] is it safe to update atm? :) [12:16] ah ok the great KPackagekit is available for Oneiric :) *removing muon* [12:34] BajK: what's so bad about muon? [12:34] its user interface is annoying and constantly changes [12:35] and since policykit is broken it gets even more annoying [12:35] talk to JontheEchidna [12:35] since it asks for password EVERY SINGLE package you install [12:35] and if you installed a package, it reverts back to the overview menu [12:36] and you have to type in your searach again [12:36] so I know what I will do when Oneiric is out :) Uninstall Muon and install KPackagekit (which is also available froms ystemsettings) === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [12:58] Ian_Corne: as safe as it could be between two alphas [12:59] hehe [12:59] just wondering if anyone else upgrade today :) [13:00] I know I shoudln't [13:00] but i wanna keep with it :( [13:08] http://i.imgur.com/JKyaH.png yeah i updated it today (minimal gnome installation ) [13:08] ooops link is too many === Chotaz_ is now known as Chotaz [14:03] Howdy [14:05] Good morning, BluesKaj [14:05] * BluesKaj wonders why oneric istill on kde 4.6.3 , my other pc just upgraded to 4.6.4 on natty .. I have the kubuntu backports in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [14:06] hi charlie-tca , and a good morning to you too :) [14:06] heh [14:06] maybe backports is not yet enabled for oneiric? [14:07] * charlie-tca thinks backports doesn't work until there is a release version to backport to [14:08] they're 404ing alright ...I thought I'd complain sincw oneric is supposed to be running kde 4.7 [14:09] yeah, probly not til the RC is released , next week I believe [14:09] They just finalized the specs for Kubuntu, maybe today or tomorrow it will change [14:13] charlie-tca, BluesKaj: we're not bothering with 4.6.4 on O, we'll rather start with 4.7 [14:14] wich is delayed since KDE made a mess out of the beta1 release... [14:14] yofel, right , any idea when ? [14:15] well, I'll start with kdelibs today, but the KDE release team hasn't given a new date for beta2 yet [14:15] you could try neon if you can't wait [14:16] no wonder nobody has been able to find the beta2 , that was scheduled to release on Wed. [14:17] no thanks , I had a look at neon , I'll wait for the backports [14:17] thanks for the info yofel :) [14:17] np :) === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [17:22] Hello Everyone I recently updated pango from source and now my X fails to load due to a libpango1.0-cario error before it finally fully crashed X all my fonts were [][][][]. Anyone have any idea? Tried a bunch of things ppl had put on ubuntu and backtracks forums to no sucess. http://www.pastebin.com/d0Jwpj0e# [17:22] HydroAssassin: what version of ubuntu are you using ? [17:24] 10.04.2 - lucid [17:24] HydroAssassin: really ? [17:25] yes [17:25] HydroAssassin: this channel is for ubuntu 11.11 discussion not ubuntu 10.04 and in #backtrack-linux you said you where running backtrack not ubuntu, [17:25] either way, this isn't the correct channel [17:25] yes ive tried the ubuntu and backtrack ir channels to no help.. same as fourms thats wh i figured id try here. [17:26] HydroAssassin: ok but keep in mind this channel is for ubuntu 11.11 only, and not backtrack or other ubuntu's [17:26] 11.10 [17:27] sorry 11.10 [17:27] thank you rww [17:27] My bad, do you know of any other irc channels by hand that could possibly help? [17:27] Backtrack support goes in #backtrack-linux. Everyone who wants to support Backtrack Linux sits in here. That's how IRC works :| [17:28] there ** [17:28] thats what i figured... always have trouble with other distros... =\ prob going back to gentoo so much easier lol well thanks for your help. [17:28] Maybe you should switch to a distro with a support channel that actually works. [17:29] Dunno about Gentoo, but random Ubuntu derivatives do not tend to have that, which is one benefit of Ubuntu. [17:29] or, you know, Debian, but I'm a heretic like that. [18:26] << back on 11.10 [18:26] I'm ashamed [18:29] Ian_Corne, why ashamed? [18:31] because I shouldn't [18:32] this is my laptop I'm writing my thesis on :p [18:32] I suggest you back up that work like NOW [18:32] hehe [18:34] * genii-around sips and thinks about some saying involving alpha software and production machines [18:34] indeed [18:36] * charlie-tca thought about that too, before installing oneiric on his machine he needs to use [18:36] and then I did it anyway. What a fun machine it is now :-) [18:40] Ian_Corne, yes back up asap . my son almost lost his on windows , he was using encryption app thast became corrupted and he couldn't rescue the data with in windows but he rescued by copying it using the ubuntu livecd [18:41] he's publishing this fall [18:49] hehe, i'm using version control so all is fine :) [18:49] And for that reason I'm not using encryption on my entire home [18:50] I'll make a encfs if i need something encryted [18:52] is it normal that I get NO login screen, have to kill X and then run startx and it boots directly to what appears to be Gnome UI? [18:52] I am guessing this has to do with lightDM [18:53] is it normal alot of icons are missing? [18:53] I'm using unity 2D [18:54] als the normal one just doesn't do anything for me atm [19:03] * BluesKaj feels for those running gnome or unity [19:06] I should probably upgrade Kubuntu to 11.10 and see how it's doing [19:33] IdleOne: possibly, after you kill X, instead of startx, try: sudo service lightdm start; and check out /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log for errors if it fails to start [19:41] IdleOne: startx doesn't invoke a login screen ever, btw [19:42] perhaps s/ever/normally/. I'm sure someone will think of a counter-example otherwise ;) [19:48] sudo service gdm start ? [19:49] or kdm [19:50] kde seems very stable on "O" so far [19:54] BluesKaj: I had some issues with dist-upgrade today between 4.6.3 version and 4.6.4 , but eventually resolved it. [19:56] genii-around, did you manage to upgrade to 4.6.4 ? [19:58] trism: I will give it a shot next reboot. rww: hmm did not know that. [19:58] BluesKaj: Eventually :) It complained at first about kdelibs mismatch, used --force-depends, then a few other libs, etc. Had to manually install them from /var/cache/apt/archives [19:58] hmm, is anyone else experiencing problems with network connectivity on oneiric? In random intervals my wired connection gets unresponsive and I have to restart networking to get it going again. [19:59] BluesKaj: There's still not yet an Oneiric section in the kubuntu ppa, so I'm still using the Natty one [20:01] genii-around, ok thanks...think I'll wait for the 4.7 ppa ...going to 4.6.4 seems too complicated :) [20:17] is there any news concerning wireless network management? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:41] is unity 2d supposed to be running metacity [20:56] * charlie-tca is a state of constant confusion about 2d & 3d and window managers now [21:05] * Ian_Corne same [21:12] * guntbert is *in* such a state :) [21:12] Ooops === funnylookinhat is now known as FunnyLookinhat === FunnyLookinhat is now known as FunnyLookinHat === head_v is now known as head_victim === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === braiam_ is now known as braiam