[00:57] anybody else stuck in the menu when installing 64bit server beta? the main menu appears and you can't select anything, keep coming back to 'configure the clock' === Guest14869 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest1332 === Guest70382 is now known as Dink === brandon--- is now known as BrandonBolton === Guest1332 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest41584 [02:17] Does the 11.10 installation normally start to hang? Like, keep the installation bar at the same spot for over 20 minutes? [02:19] BrandonBolton: Maybe, if you choose update while install or some thing like that [02:20] Stanley00: Sorry, right after I posted that the screen changed. [02:21] BrandonBolton: ;) [02:33] upgraded to 11.10 - flash won't work in FF7..how to fix? [02:33] zHammeRz: add the sevenmachines PPA to your sources. [02:38] how? [02:40] add to /etc/apt/sources.list the following two lines. [02:40] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu oneiric main [02:40] deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevenmachines/flash/ubuntu oneiric main [02:41] run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flash64-nonfree [02:41] I am assuming you installed 64bit [02:41] don't forget the key [02:41] yeah the key also [02:41] see: https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash [02:42] naw, 32bit [02:42] zHammeRz, did you install the restricted-extras for your desktop? [02:43] what is the desktop? [02:43] it was an upgrade from 11.04, everything else works fine except flash player in FF7 [02:43] 11.10 with Unity [02:45] zHammeRz, in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricte-extras you need to check the /etc/apt/sources list first for any repos commented out due to the upgrade, and make sure any ppa's if there have oneiric [02:45] restricted* [02:45] /etc/apt/sources.list* [02:46] Yea I have added those 2 sources already [02:46] zHammeRz, the sevenmachines are for 64 bit. [02:47] Yea I see that [02:47] How hard is it to go back to FF 6? I only wanted to upgrade the operating system, not load every application up with some beta version [02:47] kind of ticked me off [02:48] zHammeRz, flash works in FF7 I have that FF in naty and oneiric [02:49] It worked fine for me in 11.04. Just since the upgrade FF7 says missing plug ins, so I click the button and it says nothing found. I try removing and adding it in the software center and it says the same thing [02:49] FF7 seemed to work just like FF6, minus flash :) [02:50] zHammeRz, I have given you the answer bit you just ignore it, it is a waste of time helping you. [02:50] but* [02:50] your answer doesn't apply since I am not running 64bit [02:51] zHammeRz, mine had nothing to do with 64 bit. [02:54] zHammeRz, none of this is 64 bit but both. in the terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricte-extras you need to check the /etc/apt/sources.list first for any repos commented out due to the upgrade, and make sure any ppa's if there have oneiric [02:54] When opening Synaptic I keep getting the following error: E: The value 'natty' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources E: _cache->open() failed, please report. [02:54] sorry ubuntu-restricted-extras [02:55] basotl, do you have the update manager or software source open [02:56] urlin2u: No. [02:56] any refernce to dpkg -a [02:56] I had tyo actually install synaptic I believe. [02:57] After upgrading I did have to dpkg -a but I already ran that. [02:58] basotl, try this wont hurt anything and may fix it. sudo apt-get -f install [02:59] basotl, actually if you have Oneiric it looks like you have Natty in the apt/sources.list take a look [02:59] I did and it's not listed anywhere. I purged my PPA's just in case I was going blind. [03:00] basotl, can you run a update in the terminal? [03:01] basotl, did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for any extra ppa's === Guest41584 is now known as LjL-Temp [03:01] urlin2u: Yes. I have removed and installed programs from terminal. === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest17442 [03:02] did you look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for any extra ppa's [03:04] urlin2u: None listing Natty. Removing all to see if that does anything. [03:05] basotl, removing all? [03:05] PPA I had added a couple back [03:07] basotl, here is a bug about this I believe. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/842179 [03:07] Launchpad bug 842179 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "Short after upgrade, Synaptic failed to open but apt-get still works" [Undecided,Confirmed] [03:07] Yeah... that bug looks like it. Subscribing. [03:10] I guess as long as it isn't just me. It seems the bug also causes the software center to crash. I wanted to check the new changes for it. [03:10] Well, none of that worked...all it did was install some true type fonts. So as a work around I installed chromium and enabled the html5 opt in for youtube [03:10] basotl, I see a reference to the proposed repos which are not open in development, you may have them open hard to say really> [03:21] urlin2u: I took proposed out of my sources list and still same issue. I'll just wait on it. [03:21] basotl, strange bug I haven't seen it [03:23] urlin2u: Yeah that bug report is the only mention I have found online. I looked through the forums but nothing like it. I normally run across others with similar bugs there. [03:25] basotl, if it was me if I couldn't get it to work I would do a fresh install, your wait may be along time if ever. [03:26] urlin2u: It's beta software. I've had many bugs fixed when I have tested through alpha's, ect. I can still use the terminal to install stuff so no huge issue yet. [03:26] basotl, brave user you are, I'm not that patient. :D [03:31] urlin2u: It's all part of the fun when testing the beta's. [03:32] :D === Guest17442 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest75450 [04:13] just upgraded to 11.10b1 [04:13] need help with my software center icon [04:13] it's still showing up with the old icon in the panel [04:14] anyone have any ideas? [04:14] How can revert to the original installation graphics driver, the NVIDIA seems not to be working right? [04:19] How can revert to the original installation graphics driver? The Nvidia Driver does not seem to work properly [04:20] jeffrash, yes its a bug if you look in applications you will see its the new one [04:23] jeffrash, its obviously pointing to the wrong one [04:26] reya276, nvidia-current works well try it if you haven't [04:27] robin0800, I have and it does not work well because I'm having all kinds of slow down and freezes [04:28] like stupid things when I click and hold a darn window it pauses then moves that is so Windows 95 man [04:29] Beta or not I expect something major to malfunction not something like that dude [04:29] And I got a damn good machine [04:31] So does anyone know how to revert back to the original install graphics driver, I want to remove all traces of the NVIDIA Proprietary Drivers [04:36] reya276: I assume you can change it in xorg.conf [04:36] Actually I'm in the Additional Drivers section and I see something that says Nvidia Current [04:38] robin800, yes [04:39] This is my Current Graphics Card GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/PCI/SSE2 [04:39] robin800, how do I fix it [04:40] No It seems that I can't revert nor change it as it keeps crashing [04:41] is there a way to do it from terminal, I have google it but nothing [04:48] reya276: I think you can also just remove the nvidia-current package, or something like that. I think the package name is a little different [04:49] right, I tried going into the stupid store and nothing it wont let me do it, I hate the fact that they removed synaptic damn it [04:49] I could easily have done it from there already [04:50] that was like my best friend :( [04:50] so install Synaptic [04:51] I thought you could not do it in this version [04:51] It's not installed by default. You can install it. [04:51] think this would work for Oneric http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/how-to-fix-the-plymouth-boot-screen-when-using-proprietary-graphics-drivers/ [04:52] oops nevermind read that wrong [04:54] man I knew it, I had like 4 driver packages install, see that is why Synaptic is awesome === Guest75450 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest77270 [05:35] Hi folks. I want to give the Kubuntu 11.10 beta a try on my laptop. It doesn't appear to have a download ISO that I have found yet, though. Is there one available, or should I install 11.04 and then upgrade? [05:40] Crell: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/TechnicalOverview/Beta1 for the technical overview (which contains a known issues section, which you should read) and links to download pages (including Kubuntu) [05:41] Ah, gratzi. === emma is now known as em === Guest77270 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest14554 [06:06] How do you launch the Gnome Config tool(gconf) === Guest14554 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest47518 === Guest47518 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest51641 === Guest51641 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest31248 [09:07] hi [09:07] my ubuntu 11.10 doesn't work with kde [09:20] that's a wide complaint. [09:20] What do you mean by that? === nn52 is now known as n^afk === Guest31248 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest56219 [10:54] just to be clear on something, if someone was using gnomepanel they would have to install it in oneiric? i noticed unity is the default === Guest56219 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest73111 === Guest73111 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest31060 === KNUBBIG_ is now known as KNUBBIG === Guest31060 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest43792 === KNUBBIG is now known as KNUBBIG_ [13:47] Hey folks [13:51] Is anyone else's Compiz behaving strangely? [13:51] It seems I click through the window borders, so I can't use the mouse pointer to minimize/maximize/close windows. [13:51] yes I have that too [13:54] hi everyone. i'm using the latest beta. my laptop is able to connect to my bluetooth phone but i am unable to send or recieve files. can anyone help? [14:00] anyone on oneiric and having problems with gnome-activity-journal? Anyone having this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-activity-journal/+bug/831436 [14:00] Launchpad bug 831436 in GNOME Activity Journal "Upon opening GNOME Activity Journal never gets past "Loading journal"" [High,Confirmed] === Guest43792 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest17756 [14:16] does thunderbird background on close? [14:23] thebwt: how would I check that? [14:24] I could just look at my running processes, and check. :p [14:25] It doesn't, just like Evo didn't. But Evo did have a plugin that would make it background. [14:25] * thebwt will research later. [14:28] hi [14:29] hello [14:45] hi [14:45] kde doesn't work with me [14:45] os__: What happens? [14:46] simply .i have install it and doesn't work [14:46] (my english isn't very good) [14:46] os__: In which way doesn't it work ? [14:46] it doesn't log in [14:47] hmm [14:47] x11 is restart [14:47] os__: Did you install kubuntu or did you install kde on top of ubuntu, is this an upgrade from 11.04 or a fresh install? [14:47] i have install pakage [14:48] from packagre [14:48] package [14:48] how? [14:48] how do i install kde [14:48] or ubuntu 11.10? [14:49] os__: Both [14:49] ubuntu run in virtualbox [14:49] clean install [14:49] and kde [14:50] os__: OK, how did you install kde - by installing kubuntu-desktop? [14:50] no [14:50] just a moment [14:50] i am turn on the vBox [14:56] i installed it form "plasma-desktop" [14:58] os__: OK, I've never tried doing it like that - try installing the kubuntu-desktop package [14:59] ok [14:59] how can i add fall-back option to login menu? [15:00] not sure [15:01] it is installed?? [15:01] i insttalled it before [15:01] ok; so the login screen comes up OK? [15:02] splash?? [15:02] yes , it comes [15:02] no, the login screen where it asks for your password [15:02] yes [15:02] i didn't chna [15:02] change it to kdm [15:02] and what happens when you put your password in? [15:02] it login [15:03] and the splash appeares [15:03] it loading the hard ware [15:03] and x11 crush! [15:03] crash as in everything stops? Or it goes back to login screen? [15:04] it back to login screen [15:04] ok [15:05] so if you look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old it might have some crash info from the X server - which graphics card do you use? [15:05] that is work with vBox [15:05] ah yeh vbox - sorry forgot [15:06] it is ok [15:06] gnome 3 shell is working well [15:06] os__: OK, can you get to the text console and look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old to see if it ends in a crash? [15:06] ok [15:06] os__: It might be X server or might be KDE itself? [15:07] it doesn't end with it [15:08] did you want to try kde and then look? [15:08] ok === Guest17756 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest52 [15:12] it is nessasary to be x.org.0? [15:14] xorg.log.0 is the file from the previous or current run; when the next time it starts it moves it to .old [15:15] i know [15:15] i just suggest that i do a failure log in [15:16] and get it from the recently file [15:19] [ 6388.532] (II) Unloading evdev [15:19] [ 6388.532] (II) (unnamed): Off. [15:19] [ 6388.589] (II) (unnamed): Close [15:19] [ 6388.589] (II) UnloadModule: "vboxmouse" [15:19] [ 6388.589] (II) Unloading vboxmouse [15:19] [ 6388.597] (II) VBoxVideo(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel [15:19] [ 6388.597] (II) VBoxVideo(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xf8035000 at 0xb7757000 [15:19] [ 6388.597] (II) VBoxVideo(0): [drm] Closed DRM master. [15:19] [ 6389.615] ddxSigGiveUp: Closing log [15:19] os__: Please use a pastebin! [15:20] is it enough? [15:20] no, please pastebin the whole file - what you need to do is login to KDE then when it fails it will be back at the login screen; the .old file should contain the interesting stuff [15:22] i wil past x.org.1 [15:22] paste [15:22] hmm, I'm not sure you want .1 [15:22] hmm 0.old is what I would expect [15:22] ok [15:22] what are the most recent /var/log/Xorg.*log* files ? [15:22] x.org.1 [15:22] no just a moment [15:24] it was xorg.0 [15:24] [ 1252.447] [15:24] X.Org X Server 1.10.2.902 (1.10.3 RC 2) [15:24] Release Date: 2011-07-01 [15:24] [ 1252.447] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [15:24] [ 1252.447] Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.24-29-server i686 Ubuntu [15:24] [ 1252.447] Current Operating System: Linux os-VirtualBox 3.0.0-10-generic #16-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 2 18:38:35 UTC 2011 i686 [15:24] [ 1252.447] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.0.0-10-generic root=UUID=d297965e-5e03-410a-8c4d-7aafabdaf6c4 ro quiet splash vt.handoff=7 [15:24] [ 1252.449] Build Date: 13 July 2011 12:18:21AM [15:24] [ 1252.449] xorg-server 2:1.10.2.902-1ubuntu3 (For technical support please see http://www.ubuntu.com/support) [15:24] [ 1252.449] Current version of pixman: 0.22.2 [15:24] [ 1252.449] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org [15:24] to make sure that you have the latest version. [15:24] [ 1252.449] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, [15:24] (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, [15:24] (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. [15:24] [ 1252.449] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Sat Sep 10 18:11:45 2011 [15:24] [ 1252.450] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [15:24] [ 1252.450] (==) No Layout section. Using the first Screen section. [15:24] [ 1252.450] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults. [15:24] [ 1252.450] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen Section" (0) [15:24] [ 1252.450] (**) | |-->Monitor "" [15:24] [ 1252.451] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen Section". [15:24] Using a default monitor configuration. [15:24] [ 1252.451] (==) Automatically adding devices [15:24] [ 1252.451] (==) Automatically enabling devices [15:24] [ 1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist. [15:25] os__: Stop! [15:25] [ 1252.451] Entry deleted from font path. [15:25] os__: Use a pastebin! [15:25] [ 1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/" does not exist. [15:25] [ 1252.451] Entry deleted from font path. [15:25] [ 1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/" does not exist. [15:25] [ 1252.451] Entry deleted from font path. [15:25] [ 1252.451] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi" doe [15:25] sorry [15:25] can you explain [15:25] os__: Install the package called pastebinit, it will put the file onto a webpage and give you a URL you can give her [15:25] e [15:30] how to use pastebinit [15:31] os__: pastebinit < filename [15:31] (it might not need the < ) [15:32] filename = xorg log? [15:32] yeh [15:33] > or< [15:34] < [15:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/686413 [15:37] os__: OK cool - was that Xorg.0.log or .old ? [15:37] no [15:37] just log [15:37] ok, can we have .old ? [15:37] that paste looks like it didn't crash [15:37] so ? [15:39] yes we have old [15:40] can you pastebin the .old [15:40] http://paste.ubuntu.com/686416 [15:41] ah good - that has a backtrace in [15:43] os__: please file a bug for that by running ubuntu-bug xorg and explaining it happens when you start KDE; state what version of virtualbox you are using [15:44] ok [15:48] how to explain the problem ? [15:48] os__: Description - X crashes on starting KDE [15:49] os__: Then in the body give all the details you know - ubuntu-bug should include the logs; then tell us the bug number and I'll check it [15:49] where i should type [15:49] os__: What do you see? [15:49] i uploaded the report [15:50] but i didn't see any thing to write in [15:50] have you got a bug number? [15:50] no [15:50] re [15:51] but i have problems with launchpad site [15:51] os__: What do you see? [15:51] i have a problem with libglib2.0-0 package in oneiric (upgraded from natty) [15:51] do you want to send report again? [15:51] ok [15:52] in this page: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/i386/libglib2.0-0 the version is 2.29.90-0ubuntu1 [15:52] here i see a apport window [15:53] $ apt-cache show libglib2.0-0 -> my version is 2.29.16-0ubuntu2 [15:53] after apt-get update / upgrade there's no new update [15:53] ask me about the problem [15:53] is it regression [15:53] balo: Hmm - I have 2.29.90-0ubuntu1 [15:54] or ..etc [15:54] how can you modify the compiz plugins now? ccsm doesnt work at all [15:54] i tried delete repo cache: $ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* [15:54] os__: Only say it's a regression if it used to work for you [15:54] ok [15:54] penguin42: yeah, i know, and there's in the repo what i'm using :( but it doesn't upgrade [15:55] it ask me about additional deug [15:56] after delete repo cache and update i checked the repo index in /var/lib/apt/lists/, searched for libglib2.0 and it equals with my version [15:57] i'm using this repo, and the new version is there: http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.29.90-0ubuntu1_i386.deb [15:57] any idea? :/ [15:59] other hu.archive.ubuntu.com repo users don't experience the problem [16:00] how do you guys modify your compiz settings? ccsm doesnt do anything for me [16:01] from my sources.list: "deb http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric main restricted" [16:02] hey all what happened with screensaver in 11.10? [16:02] i don't understand why can't see my os the new packages [16:02] i can collaborate to the maximum extent [16:03] so i chosse "yes what ever it takes to get this fixed in ubuntu" [16:06] does ccsm work for anyone?? [16:07] balo: You could pastebin the output of apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0 and apt-cache show libglib2.0-0 so we can compare it to what everyone else? [16:08] does ccsm work for anyone?? [16:08] hi everyone. i cannot see any paid apps in my software center. are there some extra steps that i need to do before i can see and install them? using the latest beta... [16:09] necreo: yes, but it causes unity to crash as soon as i click on the preferences button. [16:09] otherwise, the plugins work. [16:09] mine used to, now it doesnt crash unity [16:09] it just does nothing [16:09] I can set it up all I want [16:09] doesnt do a thing === Guest52 is now known as LjL-Temp === LjL-Temp is now known as Guest61148 [16:12] can anyone help me with my paid apps problem? [16:14] rigved, paid apps? [16:15] penguin42: http://pastebin.com/MWpZW49N thanks [16:16] balo: Odd - do you get any errors if you do an apt-get update ? [16:16] BluesKaj: i cannot see any paid apps in my software center. [16:17] GNOME 3 sometimes does not show some rectangular portions of a window. When hovering over them it will usually display them. Or I need to wait up to several minutes. Is this worth reporting to Launchpad? [16:17] balo: Is what I see from the policy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686431/ [16:18] bullgard4: It's a bug - report it! [16:18] penguin42: hm [16:18] rigved, dunno anything about paid apps [16:19] rigved, afaik , there aren't any apps available to but from the reposy [16:19] buy [16:21] penguin42: just some "Ign" word before ".... TranslationIndex" and "... InRelease" lines [16:21] but no errors (404, gpg or sg like that) [16:21] balo: Have you tried flipping to a different mirror? [16:21] BluesKaj: ohh. ok. i thought that there was something wrong because i remember seeing a omgubuntu post showing paid apps in the software center on oneiric. [16:22] BluesKaj: anyways, thanks. [16:22] penguin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686434/ [16:22] penguin42: http://paste.ubuntu.com/686434/ [16:23] is there another way to set up compiz? I really miss its functionality? :( [16:23] not yet, but other users using this repository not have this issue. but i'll try [16:24] balo: My guess is that something in one of the other repositories/ppa's you have is stopping it [16:24] balo: If you do apt-get install libglib2.0-0=2.29.90-0ubuntu1 what happens? [16:25] I seem to have huge problems with my Amarok on Oneiric [16:25] penguin42: I have sent an error report to Launchpad. [16:25] It takes literally forever to start and bizarrely only starts after I do "killall amarok" getting something unstuck, I guess [16:26] bullgard4: Good - I always think it's best to report bugs [16:26] bullgard4: What bug number? [16:27] penguin42: i change the mirror from Hungary to 'main' and it's solved the problem (i feel myself like a noob :D) [16:27] balo: I'm not sure what the right way to report problems with mirrors is [16:27] thanks anyway, but i don't understand what "sticked" w/ Hu. repository [16:29] im having problems with cpu [16:30] coolers go up high all time [16:30] lucas-arg: what process use the CPU? [16:31] balo, theres nothing using it... i dont seen anythin high in htop, its just the cooler... [16:31] balo, in 11.04 it was ok [16:32] balo, just yesterday i switched to 11.10 to test it ou [16:32] t [16:35] lucas-arg: are you see some strange value in `sensors`' output? [16:35] balo, nop [16:35] all temps are in 54 C [16:37] is it doing this at boot or when you log in? [16:39] oneiric is working great for me here, just unable to set up compiz is a pita [16:42] necreo, enable desktop effects is the next best [16:42] where do I do that [16:43] penguin42, do you recall what the path to desktop effects is in gnome ? [16:44] necreo, I'm no kde so the menus are differnt [16:44] using regular ubuntu with unity [16:44] on kde [16:44] no [16:44] gnome [16:44] ubuntu, not kubuntu [16:45] yeah, necreo that's why I asked penguin42 [16:46] I don't recall what the menu path for desktop effects is , but feel free to look around ..probly under admin [16:48] my cooler is high all time, and i cant configure my sound cards properly yet [16:50] only way i can configure my sound card poperly is using terminal and alsamixer... [16:50] lucas-arg, that's the best method [16:51] BluesKaj, will give some headaches to people who havent been that much time using linux... [16:53] necreo: what desktop are you using? [16:53] lucas-arg, well, if you're not familiar with linux enough to set up alsamixer, then running a Beta OS is beyond their scope, IMO [16:53] jbicha: ubuntu-desktop [16:53] necreo: no, are you using Unity, Unity 2D, or what? [16:54] Unity [16:54] Ubuntu Gnome 3D Unity [16:54] and what are you trying to do to Compiz? Unity already runs Compiz [16:54] I want to set up the plugins [16:54] like scale [16:54] are you using GNOME Shell or Unity? [16:54] Unity [16:54] how many times man :D [16:55] necreo: hey, you're the one that keeps saying Gnome... anyway, aren't you using ccsm? [16:56] Yes Im using ccsm, but it doesnt do anything [16:56] I can turn on plugins, set them up [16:56] but nothing happens [16:56] well, messing with ccsm isn't really supported and I don't use it, sorry :-( [16:58] but how do you set up compiz then? [16:58] scale is like superusefull [16:58] necreo: you shouldn't have to, it works out of the box [16:59] default alttab got no previews, no scale, no zoom, no expo [17:00] necreo: did you try Win+W ? [17:00] hi, i'm trying to get flash player installed on kubuntu. my system is 64-bit. i have flashplugin-installer installed but don't know what to do now [17:00] ah that will do for now, thanks jbicha [17:00] I usually bind that to my top right corner of the screen [17:01] necreo: bottom right might be a better idea... [17:01] I use that one for show desktop [17:01] usually, not yet, think Ill have to wait until ccsm is fixed or smth [17:06] ok s1gsegv , now that we know your OS status this can probly fix the flash problem https://launchpad.net/~sevenmachines/+archive/flash [17:07] penguin42: bug #846524 [17:07]