[00:08] * StevenK nails _mup_ to the channel. [00:18] cjwatson: That looks good. [00:19] cjwatson: indices look as expected. [00:20] great. where should I look on mawson? [00:23] ah, deribuntu/baleful by the looks of things [00:24] cjwatson: Oh, forgot you had access to mawson. [00:25] agreed, that looks cromulent to me [00:25] cjwatson: Indeed, that's the one I tried. As we don't have any oneiric on there at the moment. [00:25] admittedly only a single package but should be fine [00:25] I think I whined a few years back until I got it [00:25] I wonder why Translations-en is only uncompressed + gzip [00:26] maybe should add bzip2 versions at some point, but we'll see how things look in production [00:26] ah, need to set Translation::Compress for that [00:26] OK. I think this is good though. Shall I tell lamont to roll that out to production? [00:27] I can throw in a few more packages if you want, but I think this seems to work. [00:27] Please do. [00:27] Even if it does happen to break on prod, it's going to be pretty obvious within two hours. [00:28] I'm fine with that. I'll be watching shortly after I flick the switch anyway [00:31] Yep. [00:31] RTificated [00:32] Ah, you exposed it through the API? [00:32] Handy. [00:35] Yup. You suggested that. :-) [00:41] wgrant: you're rolling back the db-devel patch ? [00:41] wgrant: what revno is being reverted? [00:41] lifeless: Yes, just checking up on what qa-tagger is going to do. [00:41] 10978 [00:47] mail sent about it [00:47] Thanks. [00:47] There seems to be a lot of inclarity over how things work now. [00:52] wgrant: feel free to update the docs everytime someone is confused ;) [01:15] wgrant, is there any more of a traceback for https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/847485 ? [01:15] <_mup_> Bug #847485: process-mail.py crashing with Unicode logging errors < https://launchpad.net/bugs/847485 > [01:16] it might have been my change that provoked it [01:27] poolie: There isn't. [01:27] poolie: I was hoping maintenance squads would intervene on Monday. [01:27] But nobody did :( [01:27] that's strange [01:28] that there is just a one entry traceback [01:28] Rather. [03:21] Hah, it has changed [03:21] PircBot 1.4.6 Java IRC Bot versus PircBotX 1.5, a fork of PircBot, the Java IRC bot [03:23] what has changed ? [03:23] I upgraded Jenkins and then updated all of the plugins [03:24] StevenK: Is canonistack letting you in yet? [03:24] No [03:41] wgrant: BAH! I didn't know :( [03:42] nigelb: 'tis rolled back and I stopped it getting onto staging, no harm done. [03:42] Sorry! [03:42] StevenK: As I said the other day, I don' know how to QA it. [03:43] nigelb: It's pretty difficult to QA it directly. [03:43] So I poked around a bit and said it was qa-ok. [03:44] nigelb: I've tweaked https://dev.launchpad.net/PolicyAndProcess/DatabaseSchemaChangesProcess [03:44] Thanks lifeless. [03:45] nigelb: can you tell me if step 6 is clear enough to you? [03:45] lifeless: Reading [03:45] It is :-) [03:46] wallyworld: I tweaked the javascript unit testing and mockio pages after a few hours of headdesk. There were small typos in the code for both. [03:47] wgrant: Ah, is that why I don't have a success mail? :) [03:47] nigelb: hopefully your head doesn't hurt too much :-) is it ready for a formal review? [03:47] No, not yet :) [03:47] I want to write more testss [03:48] more tests = good :-) [04:34] wallyworld! [04:35] wallyworld: Your presence is *required* [04:35] That is not good :P [04:35] StevenK: hello! [04:35] wallyworld: Can you log into Jenkins using SSO -- check the box for team membership and see if you get buttons on the right hand side [04:35] nigelb: ^ [04:36] nigelb: You shouldn't get the box and no buttons, but you should be able to log in [04:36] we dont sleep dot org? [04:36] StevenK: i forgot the url [04:36] https://lpci.wedontsleep.org [04:36] That's it [04:37] ok, i can see a jenkins console [04:37] What box am I looking for? [04:38] wallyworld: So it says "wallyworld | log out" on the top right? [04:38] StevenK: yes [04:38] wallyworld: Are there two icons on the far right of devel and db-devel that say "Schedule a build" when you hover on them? [04:39] * wallyworld looks [04:39] yes [04:39] wallyworld: Excellent, thanks [04:39] np [04:39] nigelb: Are you logged in? [04:39] StevenK: http://people.ubuntu.com/~nigelbabu/jenkins.png [04:40] Excellent [04:40] Thanks [04:40] Did you write java code for this? [04:40] StevenK: You might want to get it authorized to get launchpad membership by default. [04:40] If so, respect. [04:40] Doesn't that require an RT? [04:40] nigelb: I did not [04:41] It requires an RT [04:41] and probably grabbing stuart [04:42] g26 [04:49] A LOSA may be able to JFDI for you. May not require ISD intervention these days. [04:51] wgrant, lifeless, is it ok if i send up my bug 643223 branch to ec2? [04:51] <_mup_> Bug #643223: should accept dkim based on from address and signing address belonging to the same person

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/643223 > [04:52] poolie: Sure. [04:53] Reviewer wanted: https://code.launchpad.net/~jtv/launchpad/katie-and-gina-are-bad-bad-girls/+merge/75472 [04:55] jtv: I can't review right now, but FWIW the katie celebrity is unrelated to gina. [04:56] But is it related to katie.py? [04:56] Well, related only in that the celebrity represents katie for historical reasons, and gina's katie module was used to talk to katie. [04:56] gina's katie.py is not katie. [04:56] katie is part of dak. [04:56] gina's katie.py reads dak's DB. [04:57] *cry* [04:58] Yes [04:59] Oh well, it's not a concern for my branch then. [04:59] That's something: Katie will at least mean Katie, not frontend for Dak. [05:03] where should a script for developer-only use go [05:03] specifically process-one-mail [05:03] in scripts? utilities? [05:03] well, perhaps losas will find it useful, but it's not for production [05:04] utilities, probably. [05:04] But maybe scripts... [05:05] well, i'll leave it, someone can move it [05:05] no one complained in review [05:32] hm, what would be a clean way to let this hook into sendmail() so that what's going to be sent is instead printed [05:32] i can easily imagine how to do it by, eg, monkeypatching, or adding a new configuration option [05:33] i guess config is done for the special during-testing code, so perhaps i should do the equivalent? [05:36] poolie: It's... not config. [05:37] wallyworld! [05:37] yo [05:37] you rang [05:37] poolie: lib/lp/services/mail/sendmail.py, search for isZopeless. [05:37] poolie: That's the right part of the code. [05:37] poolie: You can see how it handles testing there. [05:37] wallyworld: var co = new Y.lp.app.confirmoverlay.ConfirmationOverlay({ [05:37] poolie: (you may need to consult a medical professional afterwards) [05:37] i do [05:38] the simplest thing that would possibly work is just to stick another variable on config [05:38] Sigh, never mind, I see the error [05:38] It's confirmationoverlay [05:38] excellent! pleased to help [05:38] the results are awesome though [05:38] :-) [05:38] wallyworld: JS has the 77 char limit? [05:38] StevenK: sadly yes [05:38] imho, in 2011, 78 chars is mental [05:39] with wide screen monitors etc [05:39] should be at least 120 [05:39] wallyworld: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/689734/ [05:39] wallyworld: Suggestions how to break that up? [05:39] * wallyworld looks [05:39] * StevenK would like to say "Where's my hammer?" in a Jeremy Clarkson voice. [05:39] StevenK: var ns = Y.lp.app.confirmationoverlay; [05:40] var overlay = new ns.ConfoimationOverlay() [05:40] or something like that [05:40] where ns is short for namespace [05:41] Obviously [05:41] :-) [05:41] wallyworld: Where is your cape? :-P [05:41] in the wash, it;s dirty :-) [05:41] From overuse, I bet [05:41] you don't want to know :-) [05:42] the Wonder Woman costume is also dirty :-P [05:43] * StevenK scratches his own eyes out [05:43] CAN NOT UNSEE [05:44] Can I tell Firebug to jump to a line number in a JS file? [05:45] StevenK: not sure. i usually just search for the loc [05:45] Oh, look, it has search [05:45] you can type pretty well with no eyes :-) [05:45] I installed a screen reader, duh [05:46] And I don't need to look at the keyboard [05:46] wallyworld: Can haz mumble? [05:46] StevenK: ok. just a sec. gotta plug in mic [05:51] jtv: katie and gina are bad girls? BWAHAHA [05:51] Bad, bad girls. [05:53] *now* I know why lifeless had included "Don't be cute" with names for services :P [05:56] not to mention e.g. roomba [05:58] There is a part of launchpad called roomba? [05:58] Does it suck? :P [05:58] there was [06:00] That's news to me. [06:00] What was it? [06:00] librarian-gc? [06:01] import related [06:01] see circa 2006 [06:01] there was another, named after one of the other automatic vaccums [06:01] we've done some terrible things [06:02] what's the origin of "gina"? [06:02] dak [06:02] ish [06:02] Yeah, it's following the dak naming scheme. [06:02] I forget who exactly it is named after. [06:03] I think dak's source says... [06:03] What is dak again? [06:03] VCS? [06:03] dak is Debian's archive software. [06:04] Like Soyuz, except even more of a trainwreck :P [06:04] heh [06:05] Blah, elmo deleted README.names in 2006. [06:05] Bad elmo. [06:05] heh [06:06] "Gina (Gershon)" is listed as a future name. 18 months after gina was written :( [06:18] wgrant: Land demolish-unused-tables-3-db! [06:20] StevenK: Can't. [06:20] StevenK: -2 is not deployed to loganberry/ackee yet. [06:20] And can't be, because garbo-frequently isn't alive yet. [06:20] Because puppet. [06:22] What is the "correct" way to split long javascript strings? [06:23] long strings in javascript rather. [06:23] nigelb: 'don't' ? [06:24] oh, lines of length 268 in js is okay? [06:25] well depends what you mean [06:26] js source code? no, our normal rules apply. [06:26] js sent to the browser? see the various compressors out there. [06:26] https://code.launchpad.net/%7Enigelbabu/launchpad/bug-title-849121/+merge/75267 (line 189) [06:26] Its a test [06:27] (also, why I can't I href to those lines :/) [07:09] Good morning 'padders [07:10] Morning all, morning mrevell. [07:10] Morning mrevell / rvba :) [07:10] Hey nigelb. [07:10] Salut rvba! Qu'est-ce qu'i ce pass en France? (/me realises how much he's forgotten) [07:11] rvba: Reviewing today? I *may* be able to get you something [07:11] Namaste nigelb ... I might as well try and do a bad job of greeting everyone in something approaching their local manner :) [07:11] mrevell: Haha [07:11] heh [07:12] mrevell: Not so bad actually ;). Well, the rugby cup is on. Oh, and the economy is collapsing. [07:12] nigelb: Okay. [07:12] hello rvba [07:12] rvba, The first one helps us forget the second. [07:12] True ;) [07:12] heh [07:12] poolie: Hi! [07:13] could someone read https://code.launchpad.net/~mbp/launchpad/mail-script/+merge/75488 for me? [07:13] it's pretty small === rvba changed the topic of #launchpad-dev to: https://dev.launchpad.net/ | On call reviewer: rvba* (allenap) | Critical bugs: 261 - 0:[########*** stack smashing detected ***: ./lp terminated [07:14] poolie: I can do that but will have to wait a bit for Gavin to double check that my review is ok. [07:14] that's fine, and it would be appreciated [07:15] Okay then, I'm on it. [07:39] poolie: review done. I'll ping Gavin (my mentor) when he logs in to double check what is actually my first review on lp ;). [07:45] awesome [07:55] good morning [07:58] rvba, poolie: I'll do that now. [08:01] henninge: while you're still here, are you free for a pre-imp call in an hour or so? For old time's sake. ☺ [08:01] jtv: yes, please! ;) [08:01] \o/ [08:01] jtv: just ping me [08:01] Will do. [08:01] Tu'ich! [08:04] thanks allenap [09:07] henninge: ping :) [09:07] henninge: can I find you on mumble somewhere? [09:07] jtv: In the orange room. Gimme 2 mins. [09:07] OK [09:30] jtv: hello. I've made the fix you required. What happens next? [09:31] jml: otp, but if that's fixed, I'll approve right now [09:31] jtv: thanks. could you also land it please? I don't have commit access. [09:31] ! [09:31] OK [09:36] How do I get make lint to 'see' files? [09:36] I commited something before linting and now make lint doesn't see it. [09:40] nigelb: I'll explain in a moment, hang on [09:41] nigelb: moment has passed. “make lint” looks for files to check in stages: [09:41] If any files have uncommitted changes, it assumes you want to check those. [09:41] If no files have uncommitted changes, it looks for changes compared to the parent branch, and if there are any, assumes you want to check those. [09:41] If it doesn't find any changes at all, it checks everything. [09:42] nigelb: so try running it right after a commit. [09:42] okay :) [09:42] I did the hack of making whitespace changes [09:42] so it found those :D [09:43] nigelb: You probably also can shelve your current changes for a moment. [09:43] Lint seems to think i should use === instead of == in javascript. [09:44] It's right. == is almost never what you want. It does type coersion. [09:44] Dear god. [09:44] That's what its been doing all this while. [09:44] Also, <3 YUI tests now. [09:45] Easy to run 'em. [09:49] * nigelb curses lint. [09:55] Erm, help. I have this huge string in a line of javascript (for a test), how do I split it? [09:55] 'foo' + 'bar' + 'baz'? [09:55] nigelb: think so. [09:55] jml: Thanks. [09:55] its going to end up looking ugly :P [10:00] nigelb: if the string is big but not huge, you can use the 'array trick' (see lib/lp/soyuz/javascript/tests/archivesubscribers_index.js) [10:00] nigelb: if the string is really huge and is html code, the right place for this is the .html file associated with the js test code. [10:01] nigelb: for an example of that, bzr grep derivedtd-template. [10:02] let me check out the array trick :-) [10:03] Oh, the array trick is *neat* [10:10] rvba: Can I add https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/launchpad/bug-title-849121/+merge/75267 to your list? :) [10:10] nigelb: Sure. [10:11] Yay for a branch where I knew most of what I wanted to do :-) [10:36] jtv: any idea when that branch is going to land? I don't actually know the landing process. [10:37] jml: I'm having some trouble landing it myself. [10:38] jml: it looks like “bin/ec2 land” won't do it; wants a GPG key I don't have. Do we have anyone who's more familiar with the project? [10:38] jtv: benji, I think. [10:39] which project? [10:39] launchpadlib? [10:39] wgrant: yes. [10:39] personally, I would like to have landing and release processes for launchpadlib & other lazr projects in the source trees [10:39] (because guess what I'm going to ask for after landing things?) [10:39] https://dev.launchpad.net/HackingLazrLibraries [10:40] It's not PQM-managed, let alone supported by ec2test :) [10:40] ahh, thanks. [10:43] https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpadlib/hacking-documentation/+merge/75520 [10:54] jml: how do I run the tests? [10:55] jtv: buildout, then ./bin/test [10:55] Thanks. [10:55] How do I get buildout? [10:57] jtv: it's documented here: . Essentially, 'python bootstrap.py' and then './bin/buildout'. [10:58] I find the dev wiki hard to read. I think it's the grey text. [10:59] It's also a lot of work just to run tests. [10:59] “a non-system Python, or a virtualenv executable that does not include site-packages, is highly recommended, and may be required” [11:02] “Download error: [Errno -2] Name or service not known -- Some packages may not be found!” [11:03] May be normal. [11:05] jml: There's a bug for that. [11:05] wgrant: yeah. I might have filed it. [11:05] jtv: that's the glory of buildout. If it's any consolation, it's even more work just to run the tests for Launchpad itself. [11:06] jtv: that's not normal. [11:06] Well, the tests ran. [11:06] Did they pass too? [11:06] jml: Bug #666143 is for the blog, which is a similar theme. [11:06] <_mup_> Bug #666143: Launchpad blog uses grey text

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/666143 > [11:06] Hah, closed. [11:06] wgrant: yes [11:07] Oops, still open for the theme. [11:08] jml: landed. [11:09] jtv: thanks! [11:09] jtv: could I trouble you to review the hacking documentation branch I just put up? https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpadlib/hacking-documentation/+merge/75520 [11:09] jtv: it's waffer thin [11:09] jml: not tonight, sorry. [11:09] jtv: no worries. thanks. [11:09] rvba: could I trouble you to review this branch? https://code.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpadlib/hacking-documentation/+merge/75520 I'd land it myself sans review if I had commit access. [11:14] jml: Sure. I'll take care of it after lunch. [11:21] rvba: thanks. [11:24] wgrant: How do I turn on feature flags? [11:24] You told me a while back and now I forget :/ [11:24] nigelb: https://launchpad.dev/+feature-rules [11:24] Thanks! [11:27] Now I need to figure out which was the feature Julian and I were confused about. [11:29] What's priority? [11:30] (in the context of feature flags) [11:32] nigelb: The highest priority matching rule wins. [11:32] So, say I have 'default' and 'pageid:Person:+index' rules for a particular flag. [11:32] what's wrong with this line? [11:32] (code.incremental_diffs.enabled, default$, 1, true) [11:32] default$? [11:32] What's that %? [11:33] $ [11:33] from the https://launchpad.dev/+feature-info page. [11:33] default$ [11:33] The default scope. Always active. [11:33] Ah, that's a bit confusing. [11:33] That describes the regular expression that is used to match the scope in the rule. [11:34] so the rule would be something like 'code.incremental_diffs.enabled default 1 true' [11:34] GAH [11:35] On each line: (flag, scope, priority, value), [11:35] How confusing. [11:35] rvba: hi, can I add a small merge proposal to your queue? [11:39] jelmer: Yes you can ;). You'll be number 3. (I'm working on number 1) [11:40] rvba: thanks! [11:40] np [11:45] jml: You merged it! AWESOME! :) [11:46] jkakar: :D [11:46] jml: Man, that feels so good... that's the longest living branch I've ever had. :) [11:46] Thanks for picking it up and getting it landed, much appreciated. [11:47] what do I do to see a diff in an MP for local codehosting [11:47] jkakar: my pleasure [11:47] jkakar: I know the feeling. I personally resent every unlanded branch I have. [11:49] jml: Yep, me too. :) [11:53] nigelb: 'make sync_branches' should scan the branches and generate requested MP diffs. [11:54] wgrant: I just realized that branch didn't have contnet. [11:54] This means I have to setup local codehostign to fix a bug I can't even see! :P [11:55] Heh. [11:55] make run_codehosting [11:56] Add http://paste.ubuntu.com/689936/ to your ~/.ssh/config [11:56] or the make run all option (it's run_all right?) [11:56] utilities/make-lp-user nigelb [11:56] bzr push lp://dev/~nigelb/+junk/something [11:56] G: Or that, yeah. [11:57] https://dev.launchpad.net/Code/HowToUseCodehostingLocally describes it all [11:57] I did see that. [11:58] But I was trying to figure out the effort of fixing a bug I can't see :p [11:58] (I still can't see it, until I go through all the hoops!) [12:00] wgrant: heh, a bug you filled seems to be a dup of one I filed [12:01] * nigelb marks [12:01] bug 847556 vs bug 847682 [12:01] <_mup_> Bug #847556: Person picker in the MP ignored the fact that I filled out a review type < https://launchpad.net/bugs/847556 > [12:01] <_mup_> Bug #847682: Can no longer set review type in "Request another review" person picker

< https://launchpad.net/bugs/847682 > [12:01] ni Bah, sorry. [12:02] Why does irssi do that... [12:02] I'm duping mine to yours === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [12:02] wgrant: too quick w/ the tab & typing and latency I find [12:03] wgrant: You're is marked higher than the one I field :D [12:03] *filed [12:03] G: Yeah, irssi is currently running on a slow ARMv5 machine which is also a file+print+mail server, so the load sometimes gets a bit high and it lags. [12:03] nigelb: generally we dup onto the lower bug # [12:03] G: And about 18 months ago it started interpreting tabs literally during high lag. [12:04] It's annoyinfuriating. [12:04] Haha [12:04] There we go again. [12:04] His is marked critical, mine is low. [12:04] and has the right tags :) [12:04] How did that get marked low :/ [12:04]