[01:26] hi, has anyone seen this bug with Kmail : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294690 [01:26] KDE bug 294690 in general "Kmail/akonadi creates duplicate messages with slow IMAP connections" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] === faglnar is now known as K4YZ3BR0T === K4YZ3BR0T is now known as faglnar === kubuntu is now known as Guest36129 === Guest36129 is now known as Miguelito === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [04:24] Hey - trying to get my dvd to work right with decryption and all but i seem to be missing something [05:04] hey um guys? Though you might like to know the wiki is being flagged as containing malware by google. [05:04] Apparently someone doesn't like you guys very much. =/ [05:06] hello. I running Kubuntu 12.04 on a sony vaoi vgnfw260j. My left button on my touchpad has stopped working-the right button works fine. Could someone tell me how can i make the left touchpad button work? [05:07] i was here sometime back asking about this. few suggestions such as sudo Xorg -configure didn't work. i still can't use left button on touchpad. [05:07] any help in fixing this would be appreciated. [05:11] dnivra: Did you check for any hardware issues? [05:30] phoenix_firebrd: sorry got disconnected. well it stopped working right after the last update of xserver-xorg-input-evdev. [05:31] it was working fine till then. [05:31] dnivra: does it work when using a live disk? [05:32] i didn't try it out. i don't have access to one now. [05:32] dnivra: try this command "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" [05:33] dnivra: then restart and see if it works [05:34] phoenix_firebrd: okay will try that. [05:36] dnivra: waiting [05:41] phoenix_firebrd: just rebooted. i tried ~25 clicks. two random ones worked. [05:41] but otherwise, it is still the same. left button still doesn't work. [05:42] dnivra: can you wait? [05:42] sure. i'll be here. [06:14] dnivra: you there? [06:14] yes phoenix_firebrd [06:14] just creating a live CD. could only managed to get my hands on a 32bit kubuntu 11.10 [06:14] dnivra: did you check the current xorg for any known issues? [06:15] dnivra: good [06:15] you mean check the xorg logs? [06:18] phoenix_firebrd: did you want me to check xorg logs? i forgot to add that I tried xev and it doesn't detect left click-it detects right click and scroll bar but nothing is registered for left click. [06:22] dnivra: what is xev? x environment variable? [06:23] xev prints contents of x events. [06:23] someone in this channel told me to check it out yesterday. [06:25] dnivra: ok. tell me when you finished checking with the live disk [06:25] sure [06:36] phoenix_firebrd: just booted live cd, rebooted and observed something. a small portion of the touchpad's left button works fine. [06:36] dnivra: is there a hardware problem? [06:36] so I guess that's a hardware issue? [06:37] how can I find out if there is a h/w issue? [06:38] dnivra: does it work with bois menu> [06:38] by hardware you meant phsical device has an issue right? [06:38] dnivra: does it work with bios menu? [06:39] well I didn't try-i've never booted the bios menu. i'll find out how to enter that and check it out. [06:39] dnivra: wait [06:39] and when you said 'does it work', you meant that the cursor works fine right? [06:39] alright. i'm going to check out the bios menu then. [06:39] dnivra: do you use grub menu while booting? [06:40] yes I do. [06:42] dnivra: i dont think you can check the touchpad hardware state in bios as far as i know, try your luck [06:43] okay. if I can't, should I do something in grub? [06:44] dnivra: no [06:45] okay. let me check the bios settings then. [06:45] dnivra: are you new to linux? [06:46] been using it for ~3 years I'd say. [06:46] slightly more maybe. [06:46] dnivra: dont mistake me, do you have a windows install disk, vista or windows 7 [06:47] i have a vista recovery partition-i don't have any discs. [06:47] recovery partition came along with the laptop. [06:47] dnivra: so you can boot into vista? [06:48] no I can't-that's only a recovery partition. I've to install it but don't have space to do so :( [06:48] dnivra: in that case, you better take it to the store and check for any hardware defects [06:50] dnivra: was your touchpad working normally in 12.04 before the update? [06:50] phoenix_firebrd: ah okay will do. thaks for your help! i'll get in touch with the store. [06:50] it was working even after 12.04 install. [06:51] xserver-xorg-input-evdev (2.7.0-0ubuntu1, 2.7.0-0ubuntu1.2) udpated messed it up I guess. i don't see any other culprit. [06:52] dnivra: but when using the livecd it should have worked well, its probably the hardware [06:52] dnivra: good luck [06:52] oh yeah that is true. thanks! i'll get in touch with the guys! [06:52] dnivra: yw [08:15] When visiting https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Ninjas/Packaging, I get warned for malware. [08:18] aetoxx: the whole wiki has been marked as malware by Google [08:18] for whatever reason, I'm guessing some bot-attack [08:19] hateball, a bot-attack shouldn't do that. [08:19] hateball, only if some actual content containing some virus file which is automatically executed on some platform should trigger that. [08:20] hateball, e.g. someone uploading some specially crafted content which breaks a browser. [08:20] Yes, that's what I meant [08:20] something automated that edits public wikis [08:20] but who knows [08:20] Is there some way to secure Kubuntu in some way? [08:21] I.e., install all kinds of kernel security patches, etc.? [08:21] Randomized stacks, etc. [08:21] Anti-libc return meaures, etc. [08:21] measures* [08:23] hi [08:27] aetoxx: yes - install all the updates as they come in. [08:29] hi, has anyone seen this bug with Kmail : https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=294690 [08:29] KDE bug 294690 in general "Kmail/akonadi creates duplicate messages with slow IMAP connections" [Normal,Unconfirmed: ] [08:32] Smurphy, and how do I know that the KDE people are not evil? [08:33] Smurphy, are there 'signoffs'? [08:34] hey all [08:36] in dolphin i have still the problem, that on double clicking a xml, firefox will be called.. instead of kate, which is the default: http://i.imgur.com/Zh2vq.png [08:36] any idea? thought this was solved? [08:37] aetoxx: If you want to check everything - you have to review the code all by yourself. Help yourself- the entire code is available :) [08:37] define signoffs ? [08:37] Smurphy, google: signoff site: lkml.org [08:37] noaXess: did you configure the default applications ? [08:38] Smurphy: you mean, right click, open as kate, set default app.. yeas... sometimes.. [08:38] aetoxx: That should definitly exist. the KDE folks are very organized. [08:38] noaXess: Nope - in system settings. (Hold on - have to find it myself first). [08:39] Smurphy: check my screenshot i made [08:39] noaXess: System Settings -> Workspace Appearance and Behavior -> Default Applicatins [08:39] Could be it has priority ... [08:39] noaXess: Saw the screenshot [08:39] ok [08:40] Smurphy: ok.. lmc [08:49] i have installed kde and login in kde but the gtk apps appear with big fonts, already tried "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" but the fonts remain the same, any help? [08:52] ronrom: System Settings -> Style - System Settings -> GTK+ Appearance - just configure it right. [08:52] I tell it to use my KDE Fonts in GTK+ aopplications. [08:52] Smurphy: thats what i said, i runned "kcmshell4 kcmgtk" but the fonts remain the same [08:53] you have to log out and log in again. [08:53] i did [08:53] it won't take these on the fly. [08:53] then - I have no idea... [08:58] Smurphy: ok.. i'm in default apps... what you want to know? for Web browser, firefox is set to be default for http and https [09:01] What was your problem before ? Editor or Browser ? [09:02] Smurphy: from dolphin, double click on a xml file, firefox will be used instead of kate [09:03] noaXess: Yes - Firefox is better at handling xml code (to view it actually). [09:03] Smurphy: but i want edit it.. not vew it [09:03] view ^ [09:03] i want, that kate will be opened if i double click a xml file [09:05] How do I install latest Kubuntu on precise? [09:05] noaXess: What does the xml file look like ? make a: file bla.xml [09:05] I mean, some kind of nightly version. [09:06] aetoxx: the last stable one or unstable ? [09:06] Got 4.8.3 here ... :) [09:06] Smurphy: XML document text [09:07] Smurphy, unstable, I think. [09:07] aetoxx: unstrable is the 4.9.1 branche currently. If you are good with linux/KUbuntu - you'll know how to do it. if not - I advise you to stay with 4.8.3 [09:09] Smurphy, uhm, no, because I don't know where the ppa or debs are. [09:10] noaXess: Are you sure that kate is not embedded in your browsewr ? [09:11] Smurphy: ??.. no.. there was/is a bug in dolphin i know.. but can't remember... [09:12] noaXess: Guess the bug still exists. Has the same effect here. Will use the default browser to open the file (xml) here too - even though I have emacs configured. [09:12] Guess you have to open a bug-report :) [09:12] Smurphy: yes, thats what i mean ;) [09:13] aetoxx: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.4 chck this out. [09:13] 4.8.4 is out already. [09:13] Smurphy, I already have 4.8.4. [09:14] aetoxx: then check this out: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.8.90 [09:21] Smurphy, which .kde does the beta use? [09:27] aetoxx: the .kde ... [09:28] Smurphy, I mean which settings directory does it use? [09:32] nepomuk works when you have <10,000 files to index or when you leave your kde session running for at least 5 days or so. [09:33] Even then, it occassionally crashes. [09:33] Just look at bugs.kde.org for the tons of problems that people report related to it. [09:33] Since most people login and logout and turn off their machines, the model is flawed. [09:34] This is, btw, well-known by the developers. [09:36] If I would be managing the KDE-product, I would have classified as a nice work in progress experimental tech-preview which has no place on a user's desktop and most importantly no path to any real viable implementation. [09:37] Now, anyone disagreeing with me on this is either ignorant or a developer who wants to remain relevant for something which in fact is just a bad idea. [10:24] So there's a problem with my gstreamer. === god is now known as Guest36711 [10:27] By problem, I mean big giant problem that makes it seem like my system can't play any audio files, even though this is a lie and all my audio works pat fine. Any ideas about what I can do to fix this? I've tried to create a new gstreamer configuration by deleting the registration database and regenerating it with gst-inspect, but the gstreamer validly can't find device-audio/x-vorbis, which is the cause of some of my errors [10:27] Anyone know how to fix this? [10:27] For now I've just switched backends, vlc is a pretty solid, robust interface, but I'd prefer to use gstreamer if possible... [10:28] Since it seems to be more of a defacto framework. [10:28] That and if someone/something breaks vlc I'd like to have a backup. :D === gorgonizer_ is now known as gorgonizer === MrUnagi_ is now known as MrUnagi [10:53] hello === adrien_ is now known as Guest88830 === sergio is now known as Guest49286 [12:08] Hey all [12:16] Kde is... very ugly. [12:19] AndChat251264: Go troll somewhere else ... or - if you don't like it -> Participate to make it better ... [12:20] The window borders just see to chunky and cluttered, especially around buttons [12:20] AndChat251264: do you need help ? [12:22] AndChat251264: -> themes ? Change it. [12:22] Any way to make windows more like gnome? And is kubuntu close to stable now? It always crashed lots for me. [12:23] Using it all the time - didn't crash in ages ... [12:23] AndChat251264: If you want to use Gnome, why don't you use it ? [12:23] You have "that" choice under linux [12:24] * Smurphy never liked gnome - started with KDE on version pre 1.0 :) [12:33] hello all, [12:33] In ubuntu, I can remove all user settings by deleting .gnome* [12:34] is there a similar thing in kubuntu? [12:35] ?? [12:36] TEldeeb, that's pretty drastic , what user settings exactly , in system setings , in user management ? [12:37] i mean dolphin bookmarks, panels, .. [12:38] TEldeeb: each user in their home directory most KDE configs are stored in .kde directory, if that's what you mean [12:38] yeah .. i'll try it .. [12:38] thanks [12:38] don't have to kill the entire thing [12:38] for extreme testing you can just rename it and log out and back in again [12:38] what's ".kdevduchain/" [12:39] thanks qbit [12:40] but under .kde is a directory share/config, you'll find them all in there, you can either rename or delete individual configs [12:40] if you delete one and log out of KDE and back in again you'll get it replaced with a default one [12:41] i get the impression that it's the defaults that he wants to change :) [12:42] no, i just want to get back to defaults [12:42] i shall try === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:08] ello [13:09] hello [13:09] hello === live is now known as Guest39305 [14:08] I can't get java to install. I've been trying different script from forums and whatnot but it's not happening... [14:10] brad_, did you install kubuntu-restricted-extras ? [14:11] * genii-around slides BluesKaj a coffee ( or tea if you prefer ) [14:12] hey thanks genii-around , coffee is great :) [14:12] Anytime :-) [14:15] no, I'll try [14:21] niiiice, it's working now, thanks === cham is now known as amar === rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli [15:41] hi all [15:43] you are on ubununtu right [15:43] you are on ubununtu right ? [15:43] kubuntu support here , amar [15:43] Good morning amar. This is the Kubuntu support channel. [15:44] ok [15:44] amar: If you want support for Ubuntu, please try #Ubuntu. [15:44] no i'm using kubunutu [15:45] kubuntu [15:45] Smart lad. And good looking, too. :-) [15:45] it's a message from another user who made me think so [15:47] is there a way to remove kwallet, it's boring me, i've tried apt-get remove purge, but he is not gone [15:48] If you remove kwallet, you will be even more bothered with applications asking for passwords. [15:49] I just give kwallet no password and it doesn't bug me again [15:49] i suppressed his asking effect, but he is not gone by itself, and no it's better without him [15:49] the big prob is with wirelless networks [15:49] i have about a dozen with different passwords [15:50] at the time when i used ubunutu i was good but now ! [16:20] Good evening [16:23] lordievader: Good afternoon! [16:26] genii-around: Noon has already past here, it waved his(/her?/it [16:26] 's?) goodbye [16:27] lordievader: I'm on GMT-4 here === k0s is now known as qw[UA] [16:37] /join #help [16:37] why i am not jiun in the channel ? [16:37] use only one / [16:37] Hm [16:38] join* === k0s is now known as qw[UA] [16:39] qw[UA]: Not sure if this applies, but maybe you have a server commands field, if so you should try it there. [16:46] help me please [16:47] i joinid in russian server but i see ierogliph [16:47] what i am use codepage ? [16:49] utf8 usually [17:13] hi [17:14] jithin: Hello. If you have some question regarding your Kubuntu, please just ask the channel in general and someone will hopefully be able to resolve it. [17:15] is any diary writing application for kubuntu ? [17:15] Hello - can someone explain how in K3B to write a DVD image? I see the RIP options but it doesnt seem to do anything [17:16] Miguelito: Under the "Tools" menu, will be "Burn Image". === nick_ is now known as Guest88410 [17:18] Miguelito, or right click on the image file and choose open with k3b [17:20] The Burn Image is to write to a DVD - I want to RIP the DVD and put an image on my computer [17:21] Sorry for not speaking it clearly [17:25] !info almanah | Jikan [17:25] Jikan: almanah (source: almanah): Application to ease management of a personal diary. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.0-6 (precise), package size 164 kB, installed size 809 kB [17:26] Bah tab-fail [17:26] Miguelito, no need to rip the image with k3b , just copy it to your HDD [17:26] Jikan: Apologies, misdirect, was for jithin but they left === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [17:29] Miguelito, http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2769/ubuntu_how_to_create_iso_image_from_cd_dvd/ [17:30] genii-around, have you ever tried using dd to copy a dvd to a drive ? [17:30] BluesKaj: I find something like sudo dd if=dev/sr0 of=filename.iso usually works [17:30] genii-around, :>) [17:31] put a leading / there in front of dev/sr0 , typo ... [17:32] yup , asamof I have used that command. I have in my CLI_Commands text file [17:32] BluesKaj: Thanks! [17:33] Miguelito, read genii-around`'s post as well , it's probly easier to use [17:37] Hi, I try to connect my sshd over internet but the connections time out before any authentication takes place. The machine is directly connected and the port is opened. [17:40] bimmel: 2.171.1.11 does not seem to be reachable [17:40] thats not the ip [17:40] oh well it is, it changed secs ago [17:40] its port 666 [17:41] bimmel: Ah, OK. Interestingly, traceroute on that ip shows it is being routed through ip numbers which are reserved for private use [17:42] private use of whom? its just a mobile connection [17:42] genii-around, 2.171.1.112 is a generic IP ,probly a german ISP [17:42] yes [17:42] bimmel: traceroute results from here: http://pastebin.com/YUdYZmHe [17:43] ( it just sticks on the last address forever ) [17:43] So it looks like some routing isssue and not some sshd issue [17:43] genii-around, bimmel , http://www.infosniper.net/index.php?ip_address=2.171.1.112&map_source=1&overview_map=1&lang=1&map_type=1&zoom_level=7 [17:43] thats odd [17:44] it even happens when I try to connect on my wan adress from the same machine [17:45] BluesKaj: I usually just do: whois at command-line :-) [17:46] how could i resolve that? i dont use any 192.168.17.0 network. so it does not reach me [17:47] yeah genii-around I use traceroute as well when the IP won't resolve on infosniper [17:50] genii-around, whois in the terminal doesn't work here, is it part of apackage ? === Kamaza is now known as teodoro [17:54] BluesKaj: The package is same name [17:54] work, afk === tex is now known as Guest34215 === rdponticelli_ is now known as rdponticelli [18:11] . [18:12] yes this is kubuntu , support [18:13] BluesKaj: His issue looks like some network misconfiguration starting at DTAG.DE [18:14] ( bimmel ) [18:15] genii-around, I didn't understand his sshd reference [18:16] BluesKaj: " Hi, I try to connect my sshd over internet but the connections time out before any authentication takes place. The machine is directly connected and the port is opened." [18:17] Was his original question... So I tried to reach port 22 on his ip, which failed... so then traceroute to see where it ends... then I discover somewhere in between is routing stuff through private IP ranges and traffic will never get to hip IP [18:17] *his/her IP [18:19] genii-around, he mentioned the port was 666 [18:20] BluesKaj: Yes, you can make ssh daemon run on any port you want instead of 22 [18:20] Something higher than 1024 might have been better... [18:28] Good evening === k0s is now known as qw[UA] === k0s is now known as qw[UA] === k0s is now known as qw[UA] [19:15] hi, change partition is resize? and if so is it safe? wanna cut win7 drive in half and install [19:17] JoeSomebody, yes , how large is the partition? [19:17] JoeSomebody: do it from a livecd and reduce the risk [19:17] JoeSomebody: It is safe, if you have a verified backup. Also use gparted, the kde partion editor is not very great. [19:17] Might also want to do a chkdsk from in windows first [19:18] about 500gb for some reason it says 430 [19:18] so gparted resize bofore install is recommended? [19:18] JoeSomebody: it's up to you when [19:19] ok will do a backup , and then gparted [19:19] genii-around's tip is VERY important if you are changing ntfs [19:19] just wanna do whatever is best [19:19] yes chkdsk understood [19:19] JoeSomebody: It has been my experience that the kde one hangs and not does any resizing, gparted would resize it fine. Note I am talking about an external drive. [19:20] JoeSomebody, hope you have patience , resizing can take many hrs ...I also prefer to repartition before installing another OS ..as suggested gparted live-cd is a good method [19:21] heh, more advice there than enough :) [19:21] yeah i know it takes awhile on that size [19:21] acer was good they used to make a data partition on half of it was easy with those ones [19:25] hi [19:26] Hey rainer_ how are you? [19:26] What would be the command to show the list of devices on my system - for example /dev/sda1 [19:26] Miguelito: Do you mean sudo fdisk -l? [19:26] lordievader: does that show the device list? [19:27] Miguelito, df -h [19:29] BluesKaj: thanks again [19:33] BluesKaj: the link you sent me to rip a dvd using the cat command returned a input/output error [19:39] Miguelito,yes , using dd is a better method , sudo dd if=/dev/sr0 of=filename.iso [19:45] BluesKaj: It completed the process like in a second - i looked in the dir and it looks like the file is there - its like 850megs - is there a way to verify it? [19:46] Miguelito, yes use VLC , it plays multimedia iso files [19:46] !iso [19:46] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [19:46] if it's amedia file [19:46] kk [19:46] I assume it's a media , Miguelito [19:47] media file [19:48] BluesKaj: yes it is but it did nothing when i tried to load it with VLC [19:49] BluesKaj: when i went to load it from the dvd it worked [19:50] The newer DVDs sometimes use a protection scheme now where they make a track at the beginning which has nothing on it and close that off, then make a second track with the actual data on it [19:51] 850mb doen't copy instantly , Miguelito it's probly still copying [19:51] BluesKaj: yea i know that but i havent seen any activity on dvd or hdisk [19:52] Miguelito, do you have libdvdcss2 installed ..the dvd may ne DRM'd [19:53] ne=be [19:53] geni what's the workaround if the phony track is on the dvd? [19:53] genii-around,^ [19:54] yes i do [19:54] ok [19:56] BluesKaj: im so use to windows that i wasnt reading that number as raw data - its only 847k not megs - sorrys its been like 10-12 years since working with Linux [19:58] Is there a way within Dolphin using split screen/directory to quickly move the right pane to the same directory as the left? [20:01] Miguelito: Do you have more than one dvd drive? [20:05] genii-around: no sir [20:05] genii-around: it works fine - i have no problem copying - i just want to be able to write ISO's for data storage [20:06] what kind of data Miguelito ? [20:06] Miguelito: Yes, I understand. At our house we make iso files and store them on a central machine which can stream to whichever computers in the house [20:11] BluesKaj: its a playable dvd [20:12] genii-around: not sure why i am having such a hard time :( [20:14] Miguelito, right click on the iso, open with vlc , if you have vlc installed [20:14] Miguelito: Well, you can also use k3b to make an iso. [20:15] BluesKaj: its not and ISO - its a regular DVD [20:16] genii-around: i am using k3b to copy but have not been able to get it to make the ISO - probably because im not familiar with it [20:17] !iso [20:17] To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [20:18] Miguelito: Tools... Copy Medium...check off "Create Image" under options tab...specify a path in your home directory in the image tab [20:18] sorry Miguelito . I misunderstood /: [20:19] Miguelito: Make sure "remove image" is *NOT* checked off in the options tab [20:19] BluesKaj: np sir - thanks to both of you for helping this rusty old linux guy out :) [20:23] genii-around: do i do a rip or a copy - i seen the check box that your talking about but that was when i was copying [20:23] Miguelito: copy medium ... the first one at the top of the menu usually [20:24] Some help here please. I unticked Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications from Application Appearance -> Colors and now the fonts don't look the same. [20:25] I tried changing to defaults and still doesn't revert to how the fonts looked in the default install. [20:38] genii-around: BluesKaj, thank you both for your help - i am testing a burn from the ISO now - will let you but i feel confident [20:47] genii-around: BluesKaj- it was successful [20:48] Miguelito, good to hear [20:48] Miguelito: Cool. [20:49] Does any IRC client come highly recommended - currently using the default of Quassel [20:49] i like quassel, but i use it with the "core" running on my server and a client on my desktop that connects, so i dont miss what happens when i'm offline [20:50] ok now it says my free area is unusable [20:51] after a resize [20:51] did chkdsk, resized under linux in another machine === jan__ is now known as Janneman [20:52] and then put drive back in, it says my free area is unusable [20:53] maco: yea its pretty straight forward just not sure how feature rich it is [21:00] what says it's unusable JoeSomebody ? [21:00] the unallocated area [21:01] during install [21:03] a different distro i tried while waiting says its "empty" kubuntu says unusable, i seen this before, don't remember ... [21:03] joe did you try to format the unallocated partition? === amar is now known as cham === cham is now known as amar [21:04] i see the problem now toshiba has made too many partitions [21:04] hey lamine [21:04] goodbye windows recovery crap [21:04] are you there [21:05] * JoeSomebody hovers over the delete key ... [21:05] Miguelito: i really like the feature where you can see whats going on in all the channels you're joined to at once [21:09] maco, i just switched to XChat [21:10] Miguelito, i was going to mention Konversation [21:11] maco, what feature is that ? ..altho I'm not fan of sidebars [21:12] BluesKaj: click the checkbox in View -> Chat Monitor. it's not a sidebar. it splits the conversation pane, so all channels are up top and current channel is bottom [21:13] hello [21:13] BluesKaj_: did you see that? [21:13] cham: hi === cham is now known as amar [21:16] maco, yeah , I did , only got one monitor up besides the default [21:20] I didn't bother configuring the chat list [21:21] is there any command help in irc [21:22] something like --help in terminal [21:22] amar, pls explain in more detail [21:23] if someone is stuck or forgoot a command like /msg nickserver identify, how to make the list of command appear [21:24] amar, /nickserv help [21:24] thanks [21:24] in the server textbox [21:25] thank you blueskaj [21:25] you're welcome amar [21:36] my laptop is overheating with kernel 3.1, is this problem solved in the kernel provided in kubuntu 12.04 ? [21:36] or in 3.4 ? [21:37] mikeeey: What makes you think the overheating is related to the kernel you are running? [21:37] this is what I have read [21:37] over the past 15 minutes [21:39] it's not that I'm using a CPU / GPU intensive app, and the laptop stays cool on Windows [21:46] mikeeey: There is also an opensuse channel on freenode to ask in, since that's what you're using.. #opensuse [21:47] I thought this is a well known issue on all distros [22:32] hi === fishwithapipe is now known as f|shy [23:43] i know this question is too bad :X how can i open a folder in konsole? [23:44]