[05:54] hi [07:50] seb128: just saw a gstreamer base upgrade. reset clementine to use pulseaudio, purged the gstreamer1.0-alsa package I had - restarted clementine - all works fine - can't check audio cd though - thanks for tracking that down fortnight ago :) [07:52] flocculant, yw! [07:53] & good morning desktopers ;-) [07:54] seb128: will check that again [07:54] ( for ibus indicator support [07:54] hey happyaron, thanks [07:56] (getting some coffee, bbiab) [08:35] morning [08:35] pitti, hi, you're looking at bug 1548524 ? [08:35] bug 1548524 in upower (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/upower/upowerd:11:g_variant_is_trusted:g_variant_builder_add_value:g_variant_valist_new:g_variant_new_va:g_variant_new" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1548524 === Guest35152 is now known as fredp [08:38] bonjour jibel [08:38] jibel: yes, I am; I just found the fix, I'm working on adding a test case === fredp is now known as Guest92168 [08:38] pitti, sorry, I just noticed your comment on u-devel [08:38] bonjour seb128 aussi ! [08:39] salut jibel & pitti [08:50] Hello everybody! [08:56] moin! [08:56] woot, gtk+ migrated [08:57] thanks to whoever used their magic (pitti?) [08:57] salut alexarnaud [08:57] guten tag Sweet5hark [08:57] seb128: had to hint over LibO [08:57] hey Sweet5hark [08:57] pitti, thanks in any case ;-) [09:01] seb128, pitti: heya. was scared yesterday when I found libreoffice autopkgtests still failed -- but then saw it was still the old 5.1.0~rc3 that was triggered by the new libreoffice-l10n only ... [09:01] yo [09:01] Sweet5hark: right, looks better for 1:5.1.0-0ubuntu1, thanks for fixing! [09:01] amd64 still running [09:02] our clouds are in a rather sorry state ATM, so the queue is awfully long/slow :( [09:02] hey Laney [09:02] Laney: sorry for all the worker spam [09:02] I filed two RTs yesterday which should help a bit, but the networking flakiness is unnerving [09:02] hey pitti! [09:03] any idea what's going on? [09:03] Laney: for half of the failures, yes [09:03] Laney: the actual vs. accounted (in the database) resource usage is way off on lgw [09:04] i. e. the db thinks I have 20 instances running when in reality there's only 5, so it hits the quota ceiling way too often [09:04] and there's some undeletable instances [09:04] that's the two RTs [09:04] about the random "cannot assign network" I have no idea [09:04] disturbing [09:04] jibel: upower fix uploaded [09:05] hm, why is glib skiptested? [09:05] I used syncpackage --no-lp so that I don't have to wait for the Debian accept/LP import round [09:05] Laney: LibO version mismatch, and I can't hint multiple versions of LibO [09:06] (that's something to fix in britney, but shoudln't block glib) [09:06] the other tests were fine [09:06] ah right [09:07] looks like strongswan passed anyway [09:07] that's what I tried to fix [09:12] * Laney tries to remember how to run britney's hint tester [09:14] ubuntu-archive@snakefruit:/srv/ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration$ code/b2/britney.py -c code/b2/britney.conf --hint-tester --series xenial [09:20] pitti, thank you! [09:21] ah [09:21] it crashed [09:22] anyone has an idea of why indicator-keyboard would not work at all under unity7 or how to debug it? [09:27] * Sweet5hark tried to run a snappy build of libreoffice with -j32 on a VM with 16 cpus (host has 32 cores). Ended in a ice. [09:27] so much for that. [09:30] tsdgeos, define "not work"? does it not display? not follow changes done through keybindings? not actually change the layout when selecting one? [09:30] seb128: changng it does nothing [09:30] tsdgeos, do you have any error in ~/.cache/upstart/indicator-keyboard.log? [09:30] seb128: my current guess is becaue org.gnome.SettingsDaemon.Keyboard does not exist in my dbus session, can you confirm it does exist there [09:30] seb128: nope [09:31] tsdgeos, yeah, that should exist [09:31] tsdgeos, $ gsettings get org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.keyboard active [09:31] ? [09:32] false [09:32] there you go [09:32] yeah but whyyyyyyyy [09:32] :( [09:32] yeah works now [09:32] did you play with unity-greeter test mode? [09:32] maybe :D [09:32] just a random guess, but that desactivate plugins that we don't want/use in the greeter [09:32] including keybindings [09:33] you don't want to be able to start a browser there [09:33] i don't know exactly wht you mean [09:33] i did some unity-greeter development years ago [09:33] k, maybe not that [09:33] so maybe that happened and since i've never wanted to change the keymap [09:33] but unity-greeter disables those plugins [09:33] never noticed [09:33] if you start it in your user session/with your user it disables them there [09:34] could be it [09:34] thanks a lot man [09:34] yw! [09:34] i was trying to figure out how to list the active plugins [09:34] Got problem when i press shutdown it close menu bar but apps are still open and computer doesnt wont to shutdown, why? (Ubuntu mate) [09:34] you did most of the work by figuring out the dbus service was not there [09:34] but that would have taken more time than you telling me how to do it :D [09:34] :-) [09:35] be back later, need to do some keymap testing in unity8 user [09:49] Got problem when i press shutdown it close menu bar but apps are still open and computer doesnt wont to shutdown, why? Here is my log from syslog http://pastebin.com/aduMpS1t [10:14] hey seb128 [10:14] pitti: bug 1547793 would that of got into the latest iso image by any chance? only says committed [10:14] bug 1547793 in Upower "upowerd crashed with SIGSEGV in g_variant_is_trusted()" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547793 [10:15] hey Laney (sorry, forgot to say hi earlier, I didn't ignore you on purpose!), how are you? [10:15] davmor2, https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/upower [10:15] it's still in proposed [10:15] I guessed you were in dlna hell [10:15] * Laney is good [10:15] looking sunny! [10:15] yeah, got it fixed after all, thanks for #gupnp guys who helped me [10:16] it's sunny here as well [10:16] so good start of day :-) [10:16] seb128: ah awesome thanks [10:17] was it already fixed? [10:17] yes :-/ [10:17] buh [10:17] I had just no idea about the elements of that stack [10:17] at least you arrived at the right place [10:17] took me a lot of pocking starting from grilo [10:17] well done for looking at it [10:17] to dleyna-server [10:17] to gupnp stuff [10:17] thanks :-) [10:18] well, at least I synced the new version with the fix [10:18] I had it on my list but don't know when I would have actually looked [10:18] and I learnt a bit about that stack now [10:18] so not all wasted [10:18] ☑ learned all about service discovery [10:18] one for the CV ;-) [10:19] hehe [10:19] I'm doing some easy updates now [10:19] pidgin atm [10:20] then back at report some bugs upstream for gnome-software [10:20] what are you working on today? [10:20] evolution 3.18.5 [10:20] ah, good! [10:20] just hinted gstreamer, that needed a manual one, went in now [10:21] did debian changed their toolchain? [10:21] davmor2: yes, I think this counts as release-critical, and we'll most certainly respin due to that [10:21] I'm curious to know why the Bsymbolic-function started being an issue for them [10:21] davmor2: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#upower [10:22] if they did they are going to have similar issues in some other places, we had to add that hack to some other components using plugins iirc (totem maybe?) [10:22] pitti: yeah it is that's why I asked, it blocks xenial testing on hardware [10:22] or did you just "upstream" our Ubuntu change to them? [10:22] I just put it in there [10:22] if it always breaks to have it then you can have it there [10:23] k [10:24] evolution already had it [10:24] I probably put that there too :P [10:24] :-) [10:52] pitti: should I be worried by the regression for s390x on that? [10:52] davmor2: no, that already gets ignored [11:01] https://paste.debian.net/402750 [11:01] O_O [11:08] Laney: whoopsie? [11:09] nein [11:09] inside a container [11:09] can't find it anywhere [12:13] saluton, kunlaborantoj [12:19] desrt: guten Morgen, Genosse! [12:23] genosse! [12:23] i like this word :) [12:24] desrt: it's very ☭ [12:24] hey desrt! [12:24] i picked that up from the translation :) [12:25] kunlaborantoj simply means 'people i work together with' [12:25] pitti: I've been watching deutschland 83 [12:25] Laney: moin :) [12:25] lots of genosse there [12:25] well, it's also being used by the social-democratic party, so not *that* ☭ [12:25] i think we need a word like this in english... we're sorely lacking one [12:25] "comrade" is close, but it doesn't have the same ring to it [12:31] i mean one that's less communistic :) [12:31] maybe i meant to say "we need a word like this in english that would be reasonable to use in modern-day canada" :) [12:31] "citizen" is another possibility, but it's even more weird [13:00] seb128: do you know about the geoclue-providers split in Ubuntu? Debian doesn't have that, our's was split off geoclue [13:00] and it's FTBFS [13:01] pitti, I don't but the changelog has [13:01] - Split the gypsy, gpsd, and gsmloc providers out into [13:01] a separate source package to simplify the geoclue [13:01] MIR reducing the number of build depends. [13:01] geoclue-gpsd doesn't even have reverse dependencies, just geoclue-gypsy has one (cordova-ubuntu-2.8) [13:01] well, geoclue itself is in main too (and has Ubuntu changes) [13:01] ooh, I see -- geoclue-providers is in universe [13:01] my understanding is that those providers were split out to avoid having to add those build-depends to geoclue itself [13:02] right [13:02] right [13:02] it needs porting to current libgps22, or we disable that binary package entirely (no rdepends) [13:02] I guess it's a split off geoclue [13:02] so just need to be redone on the current version [13:03] but I've no idea if those providers are used and by who, maybe it's fine to just drop it [13:03] we can drop it and if somebody misses it they can work on getting the package back [13:03] seb128: is cordova-ubuntu-2.8 something we care about? [13:04] I don't know, but Ken probably have a better idea, let's wait for him to be online [13:04] that has no reverse depends [13:04] I though they cared for touch [13:04] but I'm unsure [13:05] so in the simplest case we could just remove cordova-ubuntu and geoclue-providers (but I don't want to do that without confirmation) [13:05] right [13:05] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cordova-ubuntu/+changelog looks quite dead [13:06] there is a MIR for it from dbarth but from 2013 [13:09] I've asked on #ubuntu-touch since dbarth is there [13:23] Laney, " + Disable libcryptui support, this is in Universe." ... evolution is in universe as well now, so that can be re-enabled next time ;-) [13:23] (unsure what it provides exactly, but no reason to do without it) [13:25] I thought about syncing it [13:26] that can probably be done [13:26] + debian/control: [13:26] - let libevolution depends on evolution-common, it uses the gsettings [13:26] schemas distributed there (lp: #1506430) [13:26] Launchpad bug 1506430 in evolution (Ubuntu) "/usr/lib/evolution/evolution-alarm-notify:5:g_settings_set_property:object_set_property:g_object_new_internal:g_object_new_valist:g_object_new" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1506430 [13:26] should be commited to Debian though [13:26] yes [13:26] unsure about the gsettings-override [13:27] we could add that to ubuntu-settings but iirc overrides for non installed schemas trigger warnings so it's a bit annoying [13:27] (or is that for missing keys?) [13:31] think it's ok [13:31] feel free to do that if you want [13:31] no today, but maybe next time I touch it [13:31] I didn't notice it was demoted yet, was expecting bugmail [13:31] * Laney closes that one now [13:31] bugmail about the demotion? [13:32] ye, I assigned you one to remind ;-) [13:32] sorry, I demoted most of what looked desktopish and was on component mismatch marked for demotion [13:32] but I didn't check open bugs :-/ [13:32] webkit is to universe as well btw \o/ [13:33] I wonder why I didn't get an email filtered in my assigned box about evo [13:33] it was about webkit [13:33] oh well [13:33] oh, right [13:33] sorry about that [13:34] anyway it's all demoted ;-) [13:34] \o/ [13:35] we demoted quite a lot [13:35] evo, webkit, telepathy stack [13:37] * Laney misses IMing [13:37] :-( [14:30] TheMuso: hoy [14:30] I've meybe noticed orca failure in Ubuntu 16.04 version [14:31] Do you know about it ? [14:31] On my computer Orca close after less than a minute [14:33] alexarnaud, I don't use it so I didn't notice and there seems to be no report about the issue ... does it exit with an error/segfault? [14:33] let me try here [14:34] seb128: the error msg is : "** (orca:): WARNING **: AT-SPI: Error in GetItems, sender=org.freedesktop.DBus, error=The name :1.25 was not provided by any .service files" [14:34] I use Mate and Compiz and I've updated my Ubuntu 1 hour ago [14:35] alexarnaud, it fact it could be bug #1541292 [14:35] bug 1541292 in gnome-orca (Ubuntu) "orca crashed with signal 5 in _atspi_bus()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1541292 [14:36] alexarnaud, do you do anything special with it? [14:37] seb128: nothing special or different from my current usage [14:37] ubot5: it seems that it's not exactly the same issue. I do it after login screen, I checked "login automatically" [14:37] alexarnaud: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [14:37] alexarnaud, do you have the screen reader enabled/do you use it? [14:38] seb128: I enabled it but after lass than a minute it turn off automatically because of the bug [14:39] seb128: are you able to reproduce it on your computer ? [14:39] not [14:39] I've it enabled for 3 minutes now without issue [14:39] if not, I need to give you exactly what I do and doing more investigation [14:39] it's a bit annoying, it reads every char I type on IRC :p [14:39] ^^ [14:39] seb128: let me one minute to give you the exact step to reproduce [14:43] alexarnaud, ok, I stop it because it's becoming annoying after a while, but it works fine here as far as I can tell [14:46] seb128: so I don't unserstand exactly what's spend on my machine [14:46] seb128: I'll retry later [14:48] k, let me know how it works === JMulholland_ is now known as JMulholland [15:30] * desrt tingles [15:30] hey [15:30] hi seb :D [15:30] no willcooke this week. i wonder what will happen! [15:30] me too [15:30] Roll call: andyrock, attente, desrt, dgadomski, fjkong, happyaron, hikiko, laney, qengho, sweet5hark, themuso (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [15:30] #startmeeting [15:30] Meeting started Tue Feb 23 15:30:54 2016 UTC. The chair is desrt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [15:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [15:30] #chair seb128 [15:30] Current chairs: desrt seb128 [15:30] Hey! [15:31] \o [15:31] hi! o/ [15:31] hey :-) [15:31] shit! [15:31] i mean hi [15:31] Laney: tmi. [15:31] information wants to be free [15:31] :o [15:31] I hope everybody is doing well [15:32] let's get started [15:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: andyrock [15:32] andyrock, hey [15:32] hey I've been working on g-s integration [15:32] managed to propose a branch [15:32] i'm fixing it after the review [15:33] trying to do it before the end of day so Marco can add it to next landing [15:33] how easy is it to fix? [15:33] k, that's where I'm going to [15:33] should be easy but g-s stopped working again [15:33] beta1 is on thursday [15:33] it just shows up installed applications [15:33] and this makes it tricky to test some corner cases [15:33] :-/ [15:33] let's maybe try to debug that after the meeting [15:34] test is the command line appsearch thing works [15:34] i'm sure i'll fix it by the end of the meeting :é [15:34] :P [15:34] hehe [15:34] I already did now right now [15:34] anything else andyrock? [15:34] i should be able to send a new mp in one hour so [15:35] nope [15:35] I just need to ask robert to merge my patch to g-s [15:35] he did I think? [15:35] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/3.19.91~git20160219.32c2c00-0ubuntu2 [15:35] * debian/patches/apt-plugin.patch: [15:35] - Integrate with Unity launcher (LP: #1547676) [15:35] Launchpad bug 1547676 in unity (Ubuntu) "GNOME Software Unity launcher integration" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1547676 [15:35] cool [15:36] even better [15:36] \o/ [15:36] :-) [15:36] thanks [15:36] thanks andyrock! [15:36] #topic attente === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: attente [15:36] attente, hey [15:36] hi! [15:36] gtk menus ruining my life, we're fighting on how we want the final public-facing api to look: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=756579 [15:36] Gnome bug 756579 in Widget: GtkMenu "GTK should let GDK position menus" [Critical,Needinfo] [15:36] trying to track down a crash in gnome-software ubuntu one authentication, also fixing it to store the u1 credentials properly across sessions [15:37] :-/ [15:37] (eof) [15:37] I hope you get over that one soon and go back to a better life! [15:37] he exagerates :) [15:37] good then :-) [15:37] thanks attente! [15:37] #topic desrt === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: desrt [15:37] hey! [15:37] desrt, you are next ;-) [15:38] been working somewhat closer with attente lately, doing coworking 2-3 times a week now... that's working out pretty nice [15:38] been looking over the gtkmenu api stuff as a result of that [15:38] great [15:38] also doing normal glib bugs stuff... including a fairly serious one from yesterday about gvariant parser crashing on bad input in certain cases [15:38] coworking is cool, I wish I had somebody from the team at coworking distance! [15:38] it may be worth vendorpatching that until we get a release out [15:39] since (e.g.) "dconf write /x %i" will crash [15:39] today looking at some old inotify crashers [15:39] eof. [15:39] come to toronto :P [15:39] thanks desrt! [15:39] that's an idea :-) [15:39] :D [15:39] I let Laney decide about the backport [15:39] you can crash here if you like [15:39] thanks [15:40] I didn't see any report about the segfault (or that I know being due to it), so I think we are ok waiting for the next tarball [15:40] but let's see [15:40] thanks desrt [15:40] * desrt offers good crepes [15:40] :-) [15:40] ok, let's keep moving [15:40] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: dgadomski [15:40] Dariusz is at a sprint he emailed me his summary [15:40] * investigated potential regression to bug #1337873 posted as a comment - could not reproduce, asked for more info [15:40] * backported a fix to bug #1545302 and prepared debdiffs [15:40] * gave feedback to patch to bug #1545363 [15:40] * debugged an openchrome driver bug, reported upstream https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94210 [15:40] bug 1337873 in ifupdown (Debian) "ifupdown initialization problems caused by race condition" [Unknown,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1337873 [15:40] * backported fix to bug #1309428 to Trusty and Wily [15:40] bug 1545302 in wpa (Ubuntu) "wpa-roam broken by fix for ifupdown #1337873" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545302 [15:41] bug 1545363 in wpa (Ubuntu) "wpa-roam does not support logical "master" interfaces" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1545363 [15:41] Freedesktop bug 94210 in Driver/openchrome "Unknown Card-Ids (7122|1458|D000), Chipset: VX900" [Normal,New] [15:41] bug 1309428 in gtimelog (Ubuntu Wily) "Wrong icon path in desktop file" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309428 [15:41] thanks dgadomski! :-) [15:41] #topic fjkong === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: fjkong [15:41] FJKong, hey [15:43] no FJKong? [15:43] ok, next then... [15:43] #topic happyaron === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: happyaron [15:43] he emailed be his update [15:44] 1. Fixed the VM for sogou (again [15:44] 2. Make sogou arm64 packages build on Launchpad [15:44] 3. Fixed wrong runtime libopencc.so detection and related crash [15:44] 4. More on the fonts-noto-cjk and fonts-droid-fallback transition [15:44] #topic hikiko === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: hikiko [15:44] she emailed me her update as well (be ready it's a bit verbose) [15:44] I am working on 3 gtk windows problems: [15:44] 1- I'm trying to fix the gtk window alpha problems in compiz (the alpha [15:44] blending and some other texture-related parts are buggy and we see black [15:44] dots around the gtk windows instead of the background - the regions [15:44] should be transparent and they are not) [15:44] 2- I'm adding shadows for the windows that don't provide the shape [15:44] information but have alpha on unity decorations code (this way, the [15:44] shadows of non-shaped windows with alpha and rounded corners will be [15:44] round too - now they appear rectangular because the old code is used) [15:44] 3- (optional:) I think that at the end we should add the shape [15:44] information gtk side. Without that information compiz and every other [15:44] window manager will consider the transparent (alpha) regions, parts of [15:44] the window. So, if a window has a transparent frame around the [15:44] decoration, the user won't see it but he'll be able to use it to [15:44] drag/move/resize the window, which is a bit weird: a user might think he [15:44] clicks on the background but his click is received by a window with [15:44] transparent parts... [15:45] [15:45] that decoration thing is feeling like it's never ending [15:46] seb128: let's talk about some of this stuff after the meeting [15:46] yeah, I was going to suggest that [15:46] yeah [15:46] thanks [15:46] #topic Laney === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Laney [15:46] Laney, howdy [15:46] sup [15:46] • new gstreamer stack [15:46] • new evolution stack + upstreaming some packaging stuff to debian + forwarding some upstream upstream [15:46] • new glib, testfix for strongswan to make this migrate [15:46] • Upload the rest of the webkit ports, some to Debian too where appropriate, unblock that, it migrated [15:46] • some appstream fixes with ximion (thanks) [15:46] ∘ find icons with '.' in [15:46]