=== lamont__ wonders if pia is a wake yet, or if jdub has access to her gnome-pilot config [12:03] she's left for work [12:03] hrm [12:03] hold on [12:05] it's just using /dev/ttyUSB0 [12:05] i was thinking [12:05] what might be biting you is udev [12:05] and hotpluggy things [12:05] where the device name isn't there by the time gnome-pilot wants it or something [12:05] almost certainly udev race condition [12:05] pipka doesn't use udev or anything yet === lamont__ considers ripping udev off his system, wonders what will be broken differently> [12:06] the person to ask about these things is jpr on gimpnet [12:06] bye bye gnome-volume-manager [12:06] udev doesn't really have race conditions, as such, just things get done in the wrong order [12:06] the weird thing about the pilot is that the device is really only there when you press the connect butto [12:07] which sucks arse [12:07] yeh [12:07] Keybuk: like lanching the waiting app before creating the device files? [12:07] and unavoidable afaics [12:07] lamont__: exactly :) [12:07] that'd be a race [12:07] or going to create the device files before /sys has even been populated [12:08] jdub: what rate is she using on ttyUSB0? [12:08] and did she call it serial, or USB>? [12:09] 115000 or whatever [12:09] USB [12:10] (gpilotd:8345): gpilotd-WARNING **: pi_accept_to: Connection timed out [12:12] I'm tempted to see if network sync'ing works [12:13] actually, I can snarf stuff from the device with pilot-link directly, but gpilotd just doesn't want to connect [12:24] mdz: does setting 'key off' or 'key open' with iwconfig key? [12:24] s/key?/help? === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-167-111-186.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [12:28] mdz: what to do about portmap? [12:30] daniels: doesn't seem to [12:30] mdz: oh, never mind [12:30] found #505 [12:30] jdub: https://bugzilla.no-name-yet.com/show_bug.cgi?id=505 [12:30] yep [12:31] filed my patch there now [12:35] should we always be loading the freq modules and so on? [12:35] mdz: weird [12:36] oh, must be hotplugged [12:36] I've loaded it with ultra debugging now [12:36] jdub: they're loaded by the powernowd init script [12:37] heh, eek: [12:37] ubuntu:~# /etc/init.d/powernowd start [12:37] Loading cpufreq modules: [12:37] cpufreq_powersave [12:37] cpufreq_userspace [12:37] freq_table [12:37] proc_intf [12:37] WARNING: Error inserting processor (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-1-686/kernel/drivers/acpi/processor.ko): No such device [12:37] FATAL: Error inserting acpi (/lib/modules/2.6.8.1-1-686/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/acpi.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg) [12:37] Starting powernowd: [12:37] required sysfs objects not found! [12:37] Read /usr/share/doc/powernowd/README.Debian for more information. [12:37] [12:38] this produces a great deal of output but has brought me no closer to solving the problem [12:38] daniels: want to take a look? [12:38] jdub: ask thom [12:39] man, i wish the assign to field had sexy completion like the component field :) [12:40] mdz: at the ipw stuff, or hotplug mice? [12:40] daniels: ipw [12:40] not having an ipw myself, it's kind of hard, no? [12:41] well, I can send you the 800 pages of debugging output I have, if you want to look at it :-) [12:41] hrm, what's thom's email address in bugzilla? [12:41] debzilla@planetarytramp [12:41] debzilla@planetarytramp.net [12:41] ahr [12:41] ;) [12:42] jdub: gimpnet == irc.wht? [12:42] irc.what, that is... [12:42] mdz: yeah, I can do that later on; right now I'm fixing the discover mess (sounders@) by syncing the entire PCI device lists we have in the X driver for ATI/NVIDIA/Intel/S3 back to discover [12:42] hrm, still have missing components all over the place :| [12:42] lamont__: irc.gnome.org, irc.gimp.net (or irc.gimpnet.org) [12:42] lamont__: irc.gimp.org or irc.gnome.org [12:42] ok [12:42] lamont__: he's away now though [12:42] mdz: (and have to run my sister out to school in a sec) [12:42] figures [12:43] lamont__: based in boston [12:43] heh: [12:43] ACPI disabled because your bios is from 00 and too old [12:44] jdub: dude, we have never even tried to import all the components [12:44] # nmap -sU -T Insane 192.168.10.214 [12:44] Starting nmap 3.55 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-09-02 08:34 EST [12:44] Skipping host 192.168.10.214 due to host timeout [12:44] jdub: acpi=force [12:44] [12:44] bong [12:44] daniels: yeah, it says that right next to it... but i don't think i want to :) [12:45] worked fine on my laptop (albeit with the caveat that you could kill the machine) [12:45] ack, :45 -- school time. bbiab. [12:45] mdz: sounds like RH are going with LVM by default in FC3 [12:45] mdz: would that make sense in the general case? (desktops, laptops, etc) [12:45] jdub: for the root filesystem? [12:45] hell no [12:46] (depending what your general case is, yada) [12:46] what filesystem do they use by default? [12:46] ext3 [12:46] Device 'i823650' does not have a release() function, it is broken and must be fixed. [12:46] Badness in device_release at drivers/base/core.c:85 [12:46] [] kobject_cleanup+0x98/0xa0 [12:46] er [12:46] [] init_i82365+0x1c3/0x1d9 [i82365] [12:46] [] sys_init_module+0x100/0x210 [12:46] so they use LVM by default, and a filesystem that isn't online-resizable? [12:46] [] sysenter_past_esp+0x52/0x71 [12:46] [12:47] it *sounds* like they're looking at LVM by default [12:47] jdub: "looking at" or "going with"? [12:47] going with [12:47] i'll fidn otu [12:47] yeah [12:47] sounds like crack so far, but maybe there's more to it [12:47] is that the "impending release" FC ? [12:47] or the next one? [12:48] impending [12:48] eep [12:48] the only point is to be able to expand the thing [12:48] and if they're using ext3, they can only do that when it's unmounted [12:48] and unmounting the root filesystem to resize it is, er, inconvenient [12:50] jdub: when is a good time to catch him? [12:50] http://www.mozilla.org/ [12:50] ^ pretty [12:50] lamont__: hrm, a few hours ago [12:50] lamont__: i don't really know :) [12:50] business hours, i guess [12:50] Keybuk: mmm [12:50] business hours which TZ? [12:50] boston [12:51] ok === lamont__ goes back to jpilot in the meantime [12:52] jdub: did you try that mouse test? [12:52] it works perfectly for me [12:53] haven't rebooted test machine yet [12:53] it sounds right though [12:54] mdz: so, we pretty much established that the mdadm daemon only did notification, right? [12:55] jdub: yes [12:55] happy for me to upload a version that doesn't run the daemon by default? === aes [~andrew@dsl-212-23-23-154.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu [12:56] I suppose [12:56] yo aes [12:56] float the idea on sounder first? [12:56] ok [12:56] it's a shame they aren't separate packages [12:56] hey jdub [01:04] hrm [01:05] tempted to take the disks out of my desktop and do the install [01:05] dum de dum... [01:05] yes [01:09] http://www.cryptography.com/cnews/hash.html [01:09] ^ reasonably informative === bdale [~bdale@140.159.238.102] has joined #ubuntu [01:13] Keybuk: certainly some nCipher people are a bit worried about the whole thing ... [01:14] odd really, algorithms like that are only useful until their broken; and it's inevitable that they'll be broken eventually [01:14] that's true of all known cryptosystems, no? [01:16] yeah, MD5 has been rather extensively deployed in all sorts of places though [01:16] no preimage attacks though, at least, which is something [01:17] but it's not such a big deal for things like the Debian archive [01:17] the adversary would also have to be able to upload to Debian/Ubuntu in order to do anything with a collision attack, and at that point they can exploit the system anyway [01:18] or get an upload sponsored [01:18] (a binary-only upload ...) [01:18] why binary-only? [01:18] theoretically if they were clever enough they could produce a source package collision, no? [01:18] reference to le flamewar du jour [01:19] when sponsoring I generally rebuild the source package from the unpacked source tree, and gzip contains timestamps [01:20] plus we carry/verify md5+size, rather than just md5 ... which has got to make colliding harder ? [01:20] I'm not sure that's really true [01:20] (intuitive though it seems0 [01:20] ) [01:21] constructing meaningful collisions of gzipped data is probably a lot harder than constructing meaningful collisions of uncompressed data though [01:21] I don't really know, it could be that the collision is more likely to be the same size for all I know :p [01:21] the example collision data was of equal size [01:22] yeah, was thinking about the gzip case [01:22] seems hard with embedded checksums [01:23] I think with the way the hash algorithm works it's a lot easier to construct a collision by taking one piece of data and twiddling a few bits [01:23] not to mention generating a collision where X is useful for a user and Y for a hacker [01:23] if you look at the example collisions they're almost identical save for a few bits [01:23] then again, I suppose noop->jmp is just a bit-twiddle [01:24] "/usr" -> "/tmp" isn't that far [01:24] or whatever [01:25] but there's the likelihood of a twiddle that is useful/bad/whateever colliding [01:25] it's pretty slim [01:25] it's not 0 [01:25] or more clever, if you could generate a source package which produced a binary guaranteed to have an md5 equal to a collision you've pre-prepared [01:27] binary .deb => control.tar.gz + data.tar.gz => timestamps [01:27] not clear that's possible in Debian [01:27] (as stated, at least) [01:27] you've sufficient control over those it is [01:28] Kamion: question from right field. for apt-secure, is there a particular tool typically used to generate the detached signatures, or is gpg typically scripted directly? [01:28] hm, yes, debian/rules gets to run gzip, ok [01:28] it wouldn't stand much scrutiny, but then half the sponsors don't bother [01:28] you still have to be GOOD [01:28] bdale: have to say I'm not sure, mdz would be your man [01:28] mdz: dude... === bdale is giving a talk in a few hours on trust issues in Debian, and wants to get the facts right [01:30] principal objective is to tell folks how to get this right when they're building small repositories for locally generated packages [01:35] now, if it were me, I'd hack debsign, but ... [01:35] Package: debsigs [01:36] Description: applies cryptographic signatures to Debian packages [01:36] debsigs is a package that allows GPG signatures to be embedded inside Debian [01:36] packages. These signatures can later be verified by package retrieval and [01:36] installation tools to ensure the authenticity of the contents of the [01:36] package. [01:36] is that the standard approach? not sure [01:36] bdale: here [01:36] bdale: it's just a simple detached signature of Release [01:37] mdz: ok, cool. any particular words of wisdom to add if I'm telling folks how to do this? is apt-ftparchive the cool tool, I've always just used dpkg-scanpackages and dpkg-scansource ... [01:37] bdale: yes, apt-ftparchive is the way to go [01:37] bdale: it can generate Release files as well [01:37] right. ok, I'll go update that slide. [01:38] any known big problems with running apt 0.6 from experimental, or is it all as good as it seems? [01:38] bdale: you'll probably want to do a slide on apt-key as well [01:38] bdale: the biggest problem, as usual with these things, is key management [01:38] mdz: yes. what's the right url for the current archive key to give folks? [01:38] if all you're doing is pointing at Debian, it ships with that key and it Just Works [01:38] ah, ok [01:38] "it" in this case is the 0.6 versions of the apt package? [01:40] yes [01:40] k [01:40] you can get the key via http somewhere, but I don't know the URL offhand and as I recall, it's buried somewhere on d.o [01:40] no worries, if it's in the package (I couldn't recall), that's fine [01:40] elmo: any chance of byhand processing of debian-installer/amd64, so that I can test the required debian-cd changes? [01:41] lamont__: did you set up a daily-installer-amd64 build too, BTW? [01:41] Kamion: can do. [01:41] ta [01:42] Kamion: done [01:43] great [01:50] is somebody actually fixing the evolution uninstallable? [01:51] evolution is uninstallable? [01:52] http://ftp.no-name-yet.com/cdimage/daily/current/report.html [01:52] couldn't be bothered writing out the package names :-) [01:52] ah, those are actually not part of the evolution{,1.5} source package I don't think [01:53] Post-install I was able to install evolution1.5, but during install it failed === hypatia [~mary@fuchsia.puzzling.org] has joined #ubuntu [01:54] at the moment you have to do it using aptitude by hand [01:54] which is annoying [01:57] yargh, and you have to set the debconf priority if you do that ... === Kamion hits enter lots [02:06] hrm [02:06] the installer is much faster on decent hardware ;) [02:06] jdub: bugs incoming [02:07] mdz: evo stuff? [02:07] yes [02:07] -exchange and -webcal [02:07] need the new version for those [02:07] they break the desktop install [02:08] mmm, but i need the new version of evo and e-d-s [02:11] thom: around? [02:11] Kamion: why doesn't evolution1.5 install on its own? was it missing when the CD was built or something? [02:12] mdz: what's this about? [02:12] wartylog: GPG error: http://www.gag.com unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 [02:12] wartylog: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems [02:12] gah, xchat substitution strikes again... [02:13] bdale: you are pointing at an archive with a Release file signed by a key that you haven't told apt to trust [02:13] it only trusts the Debian key by default [02:13] mdz: well, that ought to be the current Debian unstable Release file... [02:13] mdz: works for me; do you just mean the way aptitude won't install anything if one piece of the task is uninstallable? [02:13] 30B34DD5 is the current Debian one === bdale goes to figure out what's wrong [02:14] Kamion: oh, so it's just fallout from the evolution-* uninstallability then? [02:14] mdz: well, when I do it using aptitude by hand then I get evolution1.5 installed, so I guess so [02:16] mdz: installing apt 0.6.25 gave me this for a key: [02:16] pub 1024R/1DB114E0 2004-01-15 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) [02:16] ah, right. sorry [02:16] mdz: so, I gather this means the apt pkg in experimental is actually out of date relative to the current key... [02:16] that is the correct key [02:16] also [02:16] 30B34DD5 is the 2003v2 key [02:16] 1DB114E0 is the 2004 key [02:17] neither of those is 1F41B907, which is what the www.gag.com archive seems to be signed with === bdale is scratching his head, becuase the Release* files on www.gag.com appear to be up to date as of 1 Sept [02:18] ced47e86013bedc052f5f2180131f523 /var/lib/apt/lists/debian_dists_unstable_Release.gpg [02:18] matches [02:18] checking local machine [02:18] mizar:[/var/lib/apt/lists] gpg --verify debian_dists_unstable_Release{.gpg,} [02:18] gpg: Signature made Wed 01 Sep 2004 12:33:16 PM PDT using RSA key ID 1DB114E0 [02:18] gpg: Good signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (2004) " [02:19] ced47e86013bedc052f5f2180131f523 /var/lib/apt/lists/www.gag.com_debian_master_dists_sid_Release.gpg [02:19] fascinating [02:19] hrm [02:19] maybe that's not the file it's bitching about === bdale ponders 'unstable' vs 'sid' [02:20] I've never seen that fingerprint before [02:20] on the other hand, that's the only Release.gpg file in my /var/lib/apt/lists dir [02:20] mizar:[/var/lib/apt/lists] gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 1F41B907 [02:20] gpg: key 1F41B907: "Christian Marillat " not changed [02:20] aha [02:21] I have one of Christian's repositories in my sources.list [02:21] on www.gag.com also, apparently [02:21] via apt-proxy [02:21] www.gag.com:9999_marillat_dists_unstable_Release [02:21] www.gag.com:9999_marillat_dists_unstable_main_binary-i386_Packages [02:21] can't we make apt report the path as well as the scheme+host? === mdz gags, apt-proxy === bdale doesn't see a .gpg file though, so is confused [02:21] Kamion: we can, but it makes the output awfully unreadable [02:21] that always struck me as a fundamental UI crapness [02:21] bdale: the .gpg doesn't get moved into place if it's no good [02:21] the output is currently incomprehensible, which is worse I feel ... [02:22] mdz: aha [02:22] mdz: so, I need to give Christian's key to apt-key then... [02:22] yep [02:22] gpg --export ... | apt-key add - [02:22] at the very least error messages should be complete, even if you'd prefer not to change progress messages (which I can sympathize with) [02:23] Kamion: they use the same method, which is the root of the issue I suppose [02:23] mdz: bingo. thanks for the help. [02:24] Kamion: pkgSourceList::Describe, I believe [02:25] er, pkgIndexFile::Describe [02:25] bdale: no problem [02:26] string debSourcesIndex::Info(const char *Type) const [02:26] { [02:26] string Info = ::URI::SiteOnly(URI) + ' '; [02:26] Kamion: hmm, it actually does that explicitly [02:27] I bet the default status display wraps >80 characters if it does the whole thing, which would be why it was done that way in the first place [02:28] yeah === lamont__ heads off to another school orientation night === tvon|x31 [tvon@dsl093-119-225.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu [02:33] mdz: okay, so; [02:33] mdz: fixing gnome-system-tools itself is going to be error-prone and time-consuming. [02:33] mdz: so i'm going to fix their launchers to gksudo first, [02:33] jdub: :-( [02:33] mdz: and fix other places where they're launched [02:34] (from the clock applet, netstatus applet, etc) [02:34] that means the whole frontend would run as root [02:34] yes [02:34] so it goes [02:35] i'll talk to garnacho about how to deal with this better in future [02:35] it's pretty obvious that implementing all of this within g-s-t is a bad idea [02:36] mdz: sound okay? [02:36] jdub: doesn't make my skin crawl, if that's what you're asking :-) [02:36] :) [02:37] mdz: also, without samba, the windows networking section in g-s-t doesn't work [02:37] how much do we care? [02:37] jdub: ick, why not? [02:37] I thought it basically just let you set your workgroup name [02:37] "You don't have SMB support installed. Please install SMB support in the system to enable file sharing in Windows networks" [02:37] and wins server and so on, but samba needs to be there for that to work :) [02:37] grrr. [02:37] Provides: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-5-3.5 [02:38] lots of stuff wants -3.3 ... any reason not to hack in a second provide to shut it up? [02:38] bdale: yes, because they are incompatible [02:38] bdale: welcome to my personal hell [02:38] stuff should generally recompile cleanly against the new lib [02:39] at one point I was doing regular NMUs of libapt-linking stuff to experimental to keep up [02:39] but it was a losing battle [02:39] yeah, I bet [02:39] the maintainer would upload a new version to unstable, and the one in experimental would disappear from the archive [02:44] mdz: so, I'm downgrading back to 0.5.27 for now... sigh [02:46] :-( [02:46] apt-get source -b is your friend :-) === Mithrandir [~tfheen@vawad.raw.no] has joined #ubuntu [03:31] mdz: I'll try again when I'm not t-minus a few hours from needing my notebook for a talk... ;-) Like, next week. === bdale wander off [03:44] wtf [03:44] ah, nm === Riff [~davyd@cook.theducks.org] has joined #ubuntu === Gman [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu === spiv [~andrew@fuchsia.puzzling.org] has joined #ubuntu === cef_work [~cef@fw-01.amc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === AndyFitz [~Andy@c210-49-88-50.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [04:38] unstable mono packages work in Ubuntu...without sucking in non-mono deps [04:38] if...anyone cares [04:40] tvon|x31: cool [04:41] tvon|x31: we'll work out what we're doing with mono officially for hoary === tvon|x31 nods [04:42] I realize there are bigger fish to fry at the moment :) === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-167-111-186.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu [05:05] ugh [05:05] dpatch is poo === StoneTable [~stone@c-67-167-111-186.client.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu === cef_work [~cef@fw-01.amc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === spiv [~andrew@fuchsia.puzzling.org] has joined #ubuntu === Gman [~Glynn@amfea-proxy-1.sun.com] has joined #ubuntu === Riff [~davyd@cook.theducks.org] has joined #ubuntu === tvon|x31 [tvon@dsl093-119-225.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === hypatia [~mary@fuchsia.puzzling.org] has joined #ubuntu === crevette1 [~baptiste@217.26.192.45] has joined #ubuntu === doko [doko@dsl-082-083-136-183.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu === lamont__ [~lamont@mix.mmjgroup.com] has joined #ubuntu === Riddell [jr@muse.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu === elmo [~james@83.216.141.215] has joined #ubuntu === glyph [~glyph@h00095bd2b849.ne.client2.attbi.com] has joined #ubuntu === edd [dancer@pod-124.dolphin-server.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu === tvon [~tvon@dsl093-119-225.blt1.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #ubuntu === [Clint] [~c123p456@user-12hdtek.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === lifeless [~robertc@dsl-156.23.240.220.rns02-kent-syd.dsl.comindico.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === thom [~thom@amnesiac.heapspace.net] has joined #ubuntu === SleepBoB [hrdwrbob@220-253-14-97.VIC.netspace.net.au] has joined #ubuntu === jdub [~jdub@home.waugh.id.au] has joined #ubuntu === fabbione [fabbione@just.fugedabout.it] has joined #ubuntu === hrdwrbob [~hrdwrbob@c210-49-180-240.brasd1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === mdz [~mdz@69-167-148-207.vnnyca.adelphia.net] has joined #ubuntu === Kamion [~cjwatson@host81-153-126-219.range81-153.btcentralplus.com] has joined #ubuntu === Oskuro [~jordi@115.Red-213-96-69.pooles.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu === Clint [~asdfasf@user-12hdtek.cable.mindspring.com] has joined #ubuntu === mako [mako@micha.hampshire.edu] has joined #ubuntu === dieman [~dieman@3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510582097.org] has joined #ubuntu === cef [~cef@c211-28-159-51.thoms1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === MacRohard [rm@4691.irradiated.haggis.org] has joined #ubuntu === sladen [paul@starsky.19inch.net] has joined #ubuntu === #ubuntu [freenode-info] please register your nickname...don't forget to auto-identify! http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup === AndyFitz [~Andy@c210-49-88-50.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === AndyFitz [~Andy@c210-49-88-50.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [05:47] Is gnome-system-tools slated to be patched to get around the root password (with some sudo setup)? [05:47] yes [05:47] Nifty [05:47] mdz: fixing gnome-system-tools itself is going to be error-prone and time-consuming. [05:47] mdz: so i'm going to fix their launchers to gksudo first, [05:48] ah, nice [05:48] well, not entirely optimal [05:48] but yeah, the basic end user effect is it will work :) [05:48] definitely not claiming it's optimal [05:48] 'nice' == 'working' a lot of the time for me :) [05:49] currently wrangling gnome-cups-manager and libgnomecups to do the same [05:49] though i might just be stuck with gksudo in the gnome-cups-manager launcher again :| [05:50] gnome-cups-add is fine [05:50] but the 'become administrator' bit in gnome-cups-manager isn't [05:50] mdz: around? === Riff [~davyd@cook.theducks.org] has joined #ubuntu [06:26] jdub: yep [06:27] mdz: might be wiser for pitti to look into the gnome-cups-manager issue === cef_work [~cef@fw-01.amc.com.au] has joined #ubuntu [06:40] jdub: I CCed him on the bug [06:40] since he has already done some work with it [06:42] ok [06:42] oh, thought that was him being interested [06:42] ;) [06:43] morning guys [06:43] mdz: what's the current thinking on ruby1.8? [06:44] lamont__: you requested a sync, and I approved it [06:44] the rest is up to elmo [06:44] hrm === lamont__ updates the whiteboard status, shaking his head at his memory [06:44] why isn't contact-lookup-applet in the archive? [06:45] because it's only in experimental, and nobody requested that it be added to warty? [06:51] hrm, it's on germinate :| [06:51] we're still manually syncing experimental stuff? [06:53] jdub: all of the syncs are now manual... [06:53] that is, nothing autosyncs for warty anymore [06:53] since upstream version freeze... :) === pitti [~martin@195.227.105.180] has joined #ubuntu === AndyFitz [~Andy@c210-49-88-50.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu === lamont__ heads to bed. night all [07:10] night [07:10] night lamont__ [07:20] mdz: still awake? === AndyFitz [~Andy@c210-49-88-50.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au] has left #ubuntu [] [07:25] elmo: there? [07:45] oh finally i got my d-i test machine back === fabbione tests crack of the day :) [07:56] i don't want to go to the dentist :(((( [07:56] i want to hack on X today :((( [07:59] fabbione: Ugh, dentist? My condolence! [07:59] fabbione: chmod 700 /dev/teeth? Then he cannot hurt you any more? [08:00]