=== ubuntianer83 [n=christia@hlle-4db16c4a.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === ubuntianer83 [n=christia@hlle-4db16c4a.pool.einsundeins.de] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] === familyfriendly [n=mmcg069@125-236-128-74.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-artwork === chuckh [n=someone@ip68-109-65-130.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [01:49] hi Troy, I'm going to run through your steps for bzr. Thinking of running it on Edgy. Your run down should still apply pretty closely don't you think? [02:18] troy_s: Well, looks like I'll get it. Right now it's just sitting there doing not much of anything. Maybe it's usually this slow, I guess I wouldn't know. [02:24] sorry [02:25] i only get flagged when you type my full irc name troy_s [02:25] greets by the way chuckh [02:26] Chuckles? [02:26] greetings. Well, lets see. It's sitting at phase 0/4 and has been [02:26] if you get a handle on mastering bzr checkout [02:26] ok [02:26] weird... [02:26] it shouldn't be taking quite that long. [02:27] are you trying that blubuntu sample i sent? [02:27] no, it's been 5 min [02:27] _way_ too long [02:27] ctrl c it... [02:27] lets see if i can resolve the issue... blubuntu? [02:27] at present legacyhuman though I had tried blubuntu and had the same results === klepas [n=klepas@202-161-19-16.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:28] weird. [02:28] is fetch showing a progress bar? [02:29] it should show 1/4 with a progress bar. [02:29] yes but it's blank [02:29] 0/4 with a blank bar [02:29] this is on Edgy, would it matter? [02:29] ok... i dont think you require to register your ssh key [02:29] no [02:29] i am on feisty... [02:29] oh crap [02:29] erm [02:29] maybe [02:29] but i doubt it. [02:29] i think i pulled from feisty on edgy etc. [02:30] oh damn [02:30] you might need to issue a bzr init [02:30] as your first go before you get tumbling... [02:30] so try [02:30] just like that [02:30] bzr init [02:30] then the pull [02:30] yeah give it a shot [02:30] waiting [02:30] tell me if it still stalls at 1/4 [02:31] you just recently apt-got bzr right? [02:31] even just getting to that stage takes forever [02:31] so you are toying with the newest repo version i take it. [02:31] it can. [02:31] i don't know what is going on behind the scenes, but it does sometimes take a while. [02:31] got an error. ubuntu directory exists. I'll remove it and try again. [02:31] ah [02:31] yeah just rm-rf it [02:32] in fact, if you are going to bother, you might as well checkout the legacy human then you can apply your patch [02:33] that is what I was thinking of doing. I'm still at 0/4 with a blank progress bar. [02:34] well wtf? [02:34] shouldn't take that long. [02:34] give it a minute then we sort it out. [02:34] usually the network lights blink during that [02:34] are yours? [02:35] well, I can tell the traffic is zip. If they are it's from something else. [02:39] let me test the legacy-human link [02:39] where is the bzr location you are using for it? [02:39] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu [02:40] I grabbed it off launchpad [02:41] okie trying it... [02:41] nope... leeches right away for me. [02:41] something strange going in at your end. [02:41] in another term, see if anything is in your ~/ubuntu directory [02:42] got an error finally. [02:42] bzr: ERROR: exceptions.AssertionError: [02:42] wow [02:43] that is a problem... i wonder if there are some strange depends -- you just did apt-get install bzr and that was all eh? [02:43] came from python. Let me try another machine. I may have a strange build environment here. [02:43] try removing it then re apt-get it. [02:43] yes... [02:43] very well a python issue! [02:43] i'll be around chuck, going to play a card game with my daughter for a few moments. [02:43] see if you can fix your python issue. [02:43] then i'll show you how to push [02:46] worked on another machine that's more of a default setup [02:46] almost missed it because it was so fast. [02:46] ;) === z_diver [n=chuckh@ip68-109-65-130.oc.oc.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [02:56] so chuckh, whilst i am playing, have a peek over the [02:56] structure [02:57] you can also pull like this "bzr checkout " [02:57] ok [02:57] that'll be needed [02:58] troy_s, It's chuck again on the machine with the working bzr install. I've verified the gtkrc works on Fiesty. [02:58] But Legacy Human isn't there anymore. [02:58] ??? [02:59] legacy human isn't in that checkout? [02:59] yeah, but I don't think it's installed by default at least === familyfriendly [n=mmcg069@125-236-128-74.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [03:00] it is probalby in extra themes [03:00] needless to say, you can apply your fix [03:00] the checkout worked fine though. [03:00] so what's the best way to go about it. [03:01] it is very simple [03:01] just change the file in question [03:01] bzr add basically will put a full list of files [03:04] troy_s, bzr add ? [03:19] ok [03:19] so back [03:19] lets assume we have dir foobar [03:19] bzr init [03:19] do a bzr whoami to see who you are registered as [03:19] okie? [03:20] is the information correct?, if not, follow the instructions 'bzr whoami 'Joe Blow ' [03:20] okie z_diver ? [03:20] assuming we have say [03:20] ~/foobar [03:20] as your project directory [03:20] with subfiles a, b and c [03:20] bzr will ONLY track [03:20] files added via bzr add [03:21] which means that for an existing branch, you need do nothing UNLESS you are adding a fresh file [03:21] in your case, you will probably just update files for the first bit [03:21] which means that bzr already knows what belongs in that package [03:22] i'm here now [03:24] troy_s, whoami comes out correct, I ran bzr add [03:25] ok [03:25] erm [03:25] you don't need to add it [03:25] because technically it is already part of the download [03:26] follow me? [03:26] k [03:26] you pulled it, so you know that bzr already knows abou tit [03:26] so first thing [03:26] do you have an ssh public key registered at launchpad? [03:26] probably not [03:26] that is the only thing you will require to publish to launchpad's bazaar [03:26] ok... go to your launchpad page [03:27] to generate a key, we'll use ssh keygen [03:27] erm [03:27] ssh-keygen [03:27] MY launchpad page? [03:27] yes [03:28] what is your launchpad logon? [03:28] let me look [03:28] chuck@lagunadata.com [03:28] what is your launchpad id? [03:28] as in launchpad.net/~? [03:28] mine for example, is launchpad.net/~troy-sobotka [03:29] ah got you [03:29] https://launchpad.net/~chuck-lagunadata [03:29] okie? [03:29] so your id right now is set to [03:29] chuck-lagunadata [03:29] okie? [03:29] go there, on the left pane you will see your ssh and gpg keys [03:29] for now, select ssh [03:30] and we will input a key [03:30] the public half [03:31] got it? [03:31] yes [03:31] z_diver: you there yet? [03:31] yep === familyfriendly [n=mmcg069@125-236-128-74.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [03:31] I've made keys, getting the public [03:31] wow... [03:31] ok [03:31] so just put your public ssh key (id_rsa.pub or whatever from .ssh) [03:33] when you have your published ssh key, let me know [03:34] now when you make a change, you need to issue a commit. this won't do bugger all until you push the changes. [03:34] bzr commit -m "Your full explanation of the commit." [03:34] If you omit the -m, bzr will automatically launch an editor and let you put in a larger comment. [03:34] with? === familyfriendly [n=mmcg069@125-236-128-74.broadband-telecom.global-gateway.net.nz] has left #ubuntu-artwork [] [03:37] troy_s, alright the keys are up there. Do I need to undo the bzr add that I did or will that not cause any harm [03:37] depends [03:37] your bzr add is relative to the directory [03:37] so if you simply re-added the same file [03:37] it shouldn't be an issue [03:37] correct [03:37] there is a bzr list command somewhere [03:37] to see the file listing [03:37] tha'ts what I did [03:37] ok should be ok [03:37] try the push now [03:37] brz pulls up a few [03:37] k [03:37] after a bzr init (already done) [03:38] you do your commit [03:38] with comment [03:38] bzr commit -m 'Blah' [03:38] bzr push sftp://@bazaar.launchpad.net/~// [03:38] and that's it. [03:38] from within the directory [03:38] pretty simple [03:38] yes [03:38] bzr commit from the directory [03:38] then push [03:38] from the root of the directory [03:39] in this case the will match the same one you pulled from [03:39] basically the same address [03:39] if you made some radical changes, you could append -chuck to the branchname for later merging [03:40] and thanks to daniel's automated procedure that him and frank banged out [03:40] every half hour the packages will get built and shipped. [03:41] wow how cool! [03:41] tell me if you are met with success? [03:41] bzr commit gave me an error [03:41] what was the error? [03:41] probably about that double add? [03:41] cannot lock [03:41] try the bzr init [03:41] bzr init [03:41] yes [03:41] woops [03:42] ;) [03:42] wrong window [03:42] it werk? [03:42] new error Error alread a branch [03:43] hmm [03:43] hmm... maybe we can't push direct [03:43] try putting -chuck on it [03:43] and then we can notify daniel [03:43] ok [03:43] it is possible that the mains are locked. [03:43] but i am not certain [03:43] (it might be that daniel needs to permit ax to the mains) [03:44] ok, so do i add gtkrc-chuck or something? [03:44] there might be a merge tool [03:44] no [03:44] just establish your own branch with the changes. [03:44] but let me look into it, [03:44] manning bzr [03:46] for now, let's push to .chuck or -z_diver or something [03:46] and we will get a resolution tomorrow from daniel on how to push direct [03:46] once you push, let me know and I'll see if i can see the revisiosn [03:47] so how should I do that [03:48] offer your commit via pushing [03:48] but push to [03:49] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/z_diver [03:49] perhaps [03:49] try that [03:49] troy_s, would it be bzr push [03:49] no it is the fully qualified package name [03:49] erm crap [03:50] obviously with your id on the head instead of the brainded http paste i did [03:50] bzr push sftp://@bazaar.launchpad.net/~// [03:50] that's the full syntax [03:50] so as a guess [03:50] you tried [03:51] bzr push sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu correct? [03:51] lets see [03:51] is that what you tried when you got the 'oops already branch' error? [03:52] ??? [03:52] no. This looks to be working [03:52] in the syntax i just gave? [03:52] darn. mailto:sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu [03:53] mailto? [03:53] wait that's wrong [03:53] wtf? [03:53] no that's how xchat copied your link [03:53] I didn't use it that way. [03:53] hang on [03:53] bzr: ERROR: Parent directory of sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu does not exist. [03:53] bzr push sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu [03:53] erm [03:53] that's the correct errror [03:54] how strange is that. [03:54] it shouldn't realistically be giving that error... [03:54] try the /z_diver instead of ubuntu [03:54] k [03:54] we need to figure out the official pushes issue. [03:55] interesting [03:55] permission denied. I think the lagunadata was correct then, no? [03:57] bzr push sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/z_diver [03:57] your id wouldn't change [03:57] trying that [03:57] z_diver directory doesn't exist, hmmm [03:58] and the original ubuntu one didn't work? [03:58] from within the local ~/ubuntu [03:58] i'll try again [03:58] dir on your computer? [03:58] yes... i'll try one. [03:58] at this end... [03:58] i know we are damn close as per the instructions [03:58] andreasn -- [03:58] ping [03:58] andreasn -- when you guys push to Tangerine, what is the format syntax for the bzr push command? [03:59] bzr: ERROR: Parent directory of sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu does not exist. [03:59] that is from within ubuntu with the correct id offering the following command. [03:59] chuckh@ubuntu:~/ubuntu$ bzr push sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu [04:00] ok... lets try adding a branch off of it... [04:00] for your revision [04:00] i believe it is bzr help branch [04:00] alright. lookin now [04:02] damn close... in his example he basically created a branch [04:03] but i don't know if we create a branch from the legacyhuman-theme or the full legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu-mybranch [04:03] you have an example handy [04:03] I was going to try the second approach [04:04] i will try one. [04:04] hold on... [04:05] fetching legacy [04:07] so I have downloaded a branch that I called ubuntu-chuckh [04:08] via branch? [04:08] yes [04:08] now I've added my gtkrc to that branch. === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-artwork [04:08] verified it's correct [04:09] now can I push that up or is that way too much... [04:09] since I only changed the single file? [04:09] it might be the only way since the offical branch appears locked to me. [04:10] k, I'll try [04:11] it might be working [04:11] woop [04:11] i think it worked [04:11] the push is still to the same directory [04:11] same error that the ubuntu-chuckh branch doesn't exist. [04:12] oh [04:12] bzr push sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu-chuckh [04:12] so that should have been to ubuntu at the end? [04:12] that is what i did [04:12] i did this: [04:13] bzr branch ./troy_s [04:13] then cd into troy_s [04:13] adjusted the NEWS file [04:13] bzr commit -m 'Changed NEWS as a test." [04:13] i can tell I did something wrong. I didn't commit in there. [04:13] then bzr push sftp://troy-sobotka@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu [04:14] and it appears to do something [04:14] did it succeed or die? [04:14] because i succeeded but it isn't showing anywhere that i can see. [04:14] mine errored out with the parent directory doesn't exist error [04:14] but let me commit [04:15] try doing the commit using the same syntax i did. [04:18] fer feck sake [04:19] what do you mean. Single quote in front and double behind??? [04:20] anyway, commit seemed to work. Just can't get it to push. still telling me that ERROR: Parent directory of sftp://chuck-lagunadata@bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art-pkg/legacyhuman-theme/ubuntu-chuckh does not exist. [04:20] I borked that [04:20] yes the commit is local [04:20] yes i get that too. [04:21] so clearly we have an issue with something we are borking. [04:22] I've tried with simply ubuntu at the end instead of my branch thinking that that might help. To no avail. [04:22] Yes. [04:23] We are close. I have posted a message to Daniel, which will be resolved tomorrow. [04:23] Hopefully we will be able to start the patch fest shortly. [04:23] ;) [04:23] And kill off a large number of the nonsensical 'bugs' [04:23] As they are easy to fix, we just need the write permission or proper syntax. [04:23] It will brighten the mood, i think [04:23] I know for my own branches, this isn't an issue. [04:24] Well... the mood is irrelevant. The main thing is to keep attempting to illustrate that we are on the same side sab is on. [04:24] It will take time, as I originally was very clear in stating. [04:24] I was looking through the bugs though, and noted that a large number, like your gtkrc example, actually had fixes -- just no legwork to push them through. [04:24] by the mood I meant that the art team. It would be nice to have more participation again [04:24] for example, orro had the open folder svg on his site... so i pushed that up to the thread. [04:25] yes. [04:25] as i said, sabdfl simply won't consider design issues until the team is firing on full cylinders. [04:25] of course, everyone seems to forget that prior to edgy we had a grand total of 17 members on launchpad. [04:25] ;) [04:25] how many are there now? [04:26] how many are there now? [04:26] uh [04:26] 202 [04:26] launchpad.net/~ubuntu-art [04:26] that was a good drive then.... [04:26] not to mention all of the stuff that daniel set up with frank over edgy etc. [04:27] (like automated artwork for all of the packages, etc.) [04:27] it was a very frustrating conclusion. [04:27] true. That was a ton of work [04:27] because i tried to make it clear at the beginning [04:27] to sab et al [04:27] that the goal for edgy will _not_ be the destination attained [04:27] it is the foundation work that is the hard part [04:27] and establishing communication with the devs etc [04:28] hell, prior to edgy, we were not even on the bug listing. [04:28] how did you feel we did on that end? [04:28] i was fine [04:28] it is a matter of one part aesthetics, one part design, one part audience [04:28] I know we may have gotten off track a time or two but as far as getting a foundation setup, I though we did great. [04:28] the reality is that we currently have no target audience per - se. the target audience is one person, which is an unfortunate reality. [04:28] yeah it was fine [04:29] the main flaw was sab not stepping in and steering at the various checkpoints, but i don't know if it was clear in the end after he posted his thoughts. frank's article on linux.com was pretty spot on. [04:29] when he was interviewed. [04:29] again though, you can't expect total magic in 4 months [04:30] considering the time, the place we began, etc, it was all quite above the expectation level -- but unfortunately everyone looked at the final. which was silly. [04:30] When he jumps in from time to time we get an idea of his thinking and I know I was usually somewhat surprised at sabs insight. [04:30] well yes... [04:30] at one point i couldn't believe it [04:30] but i was actually arguing about colour theory with him on the phone [04:30] knowing full well that [04:30] i was arguing with someone with zero art / design background [04:30] which was ... strange. [04:30] alas, again, it will take time. [04:31] and perhaps he will need to see the light himself before things will see change. [04:31] we have a good number of very talented people in the crowd [04:31] as is clear from some of the output of the very few who bothered. [04:31] I'm glad to see you're still at it. You produced a lot of neat stuff that didn't get used at all. [04:31]