=== mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=rjian@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian_ [n=chatzill@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:34] ~37 more Feisty changes to do! :) [02:34] Come help!! === somerville32 waves a flag. === poningru [n=poningru@adsl-074-245-140-197.sip.gnv.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rjian_ is now known as rjian === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@complex1-372-008.resnet.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-65-221-216.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === omgponiezlol [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === omgponiezlol is now known as Admiral_Chicago_ === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Real] === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === UbuntuSt1ts [n=StatsBot@bl4-223-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:14] Good morning juliux [09:14] any news? [09:14] jenda, i think 1500 ubuntu 1000 kubuntu 500 edubuntu and 500 xubuntu sounds good [09:15] juliux: confirmed and final? [09:15] if you need that final today, yes [09:15] No, I don't need it final today. [09:15] jenda, i am 98% sure [09:15] The sooner the better, however. [09:15] ok, cool :) [09:15] I'll wait one more day before ordering it, then... [09:16] ...I don't have the source files totally ready yet ; [09:16] ;) [09:16] do you have the newest logos? [09:16] I'll get them somewhere, no bigge. [09:16] *biggie [09:16] They are probably on the wiki, no? [09:16] i have no idea [09:16] I'll take that as a yes ;) [09:17] ask marilizie or someone else [09:19] found it [09:19] on the first place I looked ;) [09:19] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official [09:20] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Official?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=KubuntuLogo.png [09:20] juliux: is that what you meant, or is there some new logo that the wiki doesn't know of. [09:21] jenda, i have no idea about the version of the logo [09:21] the best thing is go into the #kubuntu and ask them [09:21] ok, I'll ask the Kpeople. [09:21] right ;) === willvdl [n=will@196.207.32.235] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === LongZheng [n=LongZhen@dsl-58-6-71-185.vic.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [09:32] hey is anyone here familiar with the Ubuntu sounds dev? === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B272E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === KenSentMe [n=KenSentM@a82-92-80-8.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === willvdl [n=will@196.207.32.235] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Leaving"] === UbuntuStats [n=StatsBot@bl4-223-240.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@194.115.109.66.static.dis.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:32] hey juliux [02:34] juliux: can I just /query you? [02:34] MenZa, sure === meatballhat [n=danbuch@ccs001.clevelandcorporate.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === beuno [n=martin@68-155-114-200.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:26] meatballhat, jenda ping === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-a227-44.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lotusleaf_ [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32 [n=somervil@ubuntu/member/somerville32] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b240-80.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b240-80.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b240-80.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:48] !seen elkbuntu [06:48] I last saw elkbuntu (n=melissa@ubuntu/member/elkbuntu) 16h 30m 19s ago, quiting: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out) [06:53] !seen beuno [06:54] beuno is on IRC right now! [06:54] Oh wow! [06:54] :D [06:54] lol [06:55] he's psychic or something [06:55] how's it going somerville32? [06:56] Good [06:56] UWN 28 still isn't done [06:56] More Feisty changes to do [06:59] jenda, beuno Ping! [06:59] pong [07:00] somerville32, I can help in a while, gobby or wiki? [07:00] pong [07:00] okay, so the diy site .... [07:00] gobby [07:00] everything I've done lately is style [07:01] can we talk about usability? [07:01] somerville32, got it [07:01] meatballhat, yes please [07:01] meatballhat: I'm still undecided if I like the 2 by 2 or the vertical style more... [07:01] beuno: what do you think? [07:02] I really like the new style, it really pops out [07:02] it's different then *everything* else [07:02] beuno: that's true. [07:02] beuno: thanks (I think) ... the vertical style was adopted because of repeated feedback about fitting everything on an XGA display [07:02] and I think marketing really is about that [07:03] yeah, great work Dan [07:03] I like it too, the only thing that I'm unsure about is if it's as easy to understand when you first look at it... [07:03] meatballhat: that's a good point [07:03] okay, so about first impressions... [07:03] meatballhat, from a usability point of view, we really need to speed up the CSS [07:03] we've been staring at this thing for months, so ... [07:04] beuno: I'm not sure what else we can do with CSS ... we might have to switch over to JavaScript image replacements [07:04] also, if it's going to be that big, maybe we can add a small text (again) that explains what's each section about [07:04] meatballhat: the word 'community' doesn't fit on the 'get' button [07:04] meatballhat, I can speed it up, np (might use js, might not) [07:05] jenda: yeah ... another problem with the CSS-based approach ... and using actual text instead of IMG text [07:05] aha, yes, you mentioned that. [07:05] ...and here I was trying to do something noble :P [07:05] hehe [07:05] no, not at all - it's good :) [07:05] It makes it easier to work with, I'm sure. [07:05] I'm just a grouch about using JavaScript :D [07:06] what do both of you think about the link colors? [07:06] meatballhat, I agree, I'll try to find a CSS-related workaround [07:06] I changed the hover colors to be more modern [07:06] meatballhat: great. [07:06] Looks marvelous. [07:06] I haven't noticed that before :) [07:06] Really nice. [07:06] ....what with the higher contrast [07:06] yeap, I think so too [07:06] it's an accessibility thing, too [07:07] meatballhat, was the PHP programing clear enough? I didn't get a chance to comment it yet [07:07] beuno: yes, it's fine - I don't see myself ever messing with conn.php and genvars.php ... aside from hacking them for local use [07:07] and everything else is pretty straight forward :) [07:08] conn.php is a standars class I use for connections (hacked it myself, used it for years) [07:08] so even I won't touch that [07:08] jenda: the other thing about the vertical layout... [07:08] meatballhat: from the visual point of view, maybe centering the graphics in those buttons is worth a try. [07:09] centering vertically? .... or do you want to see the complete logos? [07:09] meatballhat: actually, I'm beginning to like it :) [07:09] welcome to the club jenda ;) [07:09] no, center horizontally, but don't scale - I don't need to see the entire thing... [07:09] ...or maybe try that too :) [07:09] unless you already have :) [07:10] okay ... I'd be happy to center them and keep the cropping [07:10] I'm trying to lead the user's eye around the page.... [07:10] yes, I think it's worth a try :) [07:10] the only thing I'm not happy about .... [07:10] It might not look good, but I can't tell without seeing it first, you know :) [07:10] is that the eye goes 'round the vertical columns ... [07:10] (brb) [07:11] winds up in the sidebar... [07:11] and then follows the sidebar down.... and off the page [07:11] :P [07:11] Not sure what you mean. [07:11] for the front page, the user's eye really should be stuck traveling in circles [07:12] :D [07:12] leading the focus *off* the page is bad [07:12] ...but what we've got right now is pretty good considering [07:12] it's a good lot better than most of the web :P === meatballhat pats self on head and kicks self in rear [07:13] Ah, ok. I'm getting it. [07:13] haha :) [07:13] If there isn't an efficient way to tweak the PHP so that all pages except for the front page display navigation logos along the header ... === jenda thinks [07:14] Actually, I'd give it a shot, and see what the wide public says. [07:14] I'm considering moving the Ubuntu Counter Count over to the left so that the sidebar boxes... [07:14] can move upward [07:14] Good ide. [07:14] a [07:14] Well... [07:14] maybe... [07:14] :D [07:14] I'm not sure if having things on both sides wouldn't ruin our viewers concentration altogether :) [07:15] no no... [07:15] just scooting the counter over a teensy bit [07:15] so that it's between the "[COF] ubuntu"... [07:15] and the sidebar [07:15] sorry... [07:15] OK, I could see that. [07:16] Good idea. [07:16] (back) [07:16] beuno: is it too much work to tweak inc_header.php... [07:16] so that... [07:16] everything except the front page [07:16] meatballhat, not at all [07:16] has navigation logos [07:17] hmm [07:17] meatballhat: idea! [07:17] jenda: shoot! :D [07:17] Remember when you had those navigation icons at the top? [07:17] I liked them there :) [07:17] yes .. as did I [07:17] and they saved us one box on the right. [07:17] it's something we lost when going to the includes structure [07:18] ...which doesn't mean we can't get them back ;) [07:18] yes, I might of left a few things behind [07:18] by accident, some not so much [07:19] beuno: is this a problem you can tackle? [07:19] :D [07:19] sure, I can get that done pretty fast [07:19] excellent [07:19] I also have the backend a bit stalled since no real content seemed to be available yet [07:19] ...which effectively eliminates the "navigation" sidebar portlet [07:19] was that tackled? [07:20] beuno: on that subject .... [07:20] I think I'd like to add more fields to the layout [07:20] on "spread.php" [07:20] so a stalling of the process might not be so bad [07:21] I guess I'd like to make the layout... [07:21] so that it's more in line with other aggregation sites [07:21] ok, np [07:21] what with "summaries" and "hits" (?) [07:22] shall I make some changes "spread.php" and then shout when I'm done? [07:22] changes *to , that is [07:23] OK guys, I gotta run. [07:23] Anything else that I need to have a look at quickly? :) [07:23] jenda: later! more updates pushed tomorrow morn [07:23] yeap, I'll only change inc_header.php === jenda prays for a 'no' [07:23] good :) [07:23] beuno: okay, so you're on the inc_header.php and I'll tweak spread.php [07:23] yeap, great [07:23] and we'll get back together tomorrow morn [07:23] 'kay [07:23] perfect === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:24] ...now I'm back to work (as in "job") :D [07:24] me too [07:24] talk to you tomorrow ;) [07:24] That's not the real work, you know ;) [07:24] somerville32, I'll get on gobby in a couple of hours [07:24] jenda: you're all too right ;) [07:24] jenda, lol === jenda *gone* === meatballhat is outta here, too === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === somerville32_ [n=somervil@fctnnbsc15w-156034092135.nb.aliant.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:18] somerville32: after 21 UTC i can help with UWN if you still need help [08:18] ok [08:18] Feisty changes still need doing === rrittenhouse [n=tad@cpe-76-188-35-66.neo.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === xipietotec [n=jackfros@cpe-67-49-247-144.dc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:31] somerville32: Seriously? crud. /me still has more class yet today and such, but good luck. === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b164-11.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [08:32] lol [08:32] I think there is like 30 or so left [08:38] right now I have a class and installing a driver for wireless === omgponiezlol [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b164-11.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron [n=rexbron@keele-b164-11.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe [n=bip@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe [n=bip@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === rexbron_ [n=rexbron@keele-b240-112.airyork.yorku.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === meatballhat [n=danbuch@ccs001.clevelandcorporate.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["[=============>] === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@242-185.dial.nortenet.pt] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === meatballhat [n=danbuch@ccs001.clevelandcorporate.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === sid [n=unstable@tor/regular/sid] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] === Mez yawns [10:47] I've been granted an interview with the ICT director for Computer Science at Aston University - who recently moved around 300PCs from Solaris to Kubuntu [10:47] what sorta things should I be asking him [10:51] Mez: simple one -> why kubuntu? (or ubuntu for that matter) [10:51] lol [10:51] :) [10:52] What experiences he's had since changing [10:54] advantages vs disadvantages when compared to Solaris [10:55] how easy/difficult was the move [10:56] the move itself, and maybe also the decision to move === KenSentMe [n=KenSentM@a82-92-80-8.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === meatballhat [n=danbuch@ccs001.clevelandcorporate.com] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["[=============>] === omgponiezlol [n=Freddy@st074039212101.monm.edu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === mindspin [n=mindspin@p54B272E2.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #ubuntu-marketing ["Konversation]