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[09:02] mjg59 will not be joining us today; he's got a PhD to procrastinate over [09:02] there's actually one scheduled for today? [09:02] I thought mdz was joining us, he was in a conf-call with me not an hour ago, but he's just vanished === ajmitch looks for dholbach [09:02] trying to find out whether it's temporary, or whether he's gone for dinner and forgotten [09:02] ajmitch: I'm here [09:02] dholbach: yay! [09:03] [20:50:16] * Ubugtu changes topic to 'Current meeting: Technical Board | Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 31 Jan 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00 UTC: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00 UTC: Mozilla Team' [09:03] Ma1kel, we know that... [09:03] ubugtu & reality don't always match [09:03] heh [09:03] The system can't be wrong. === Czessi [n=Czessi@dslb-088-073-005-114.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mdz_ [n=mdz@87-194-36-33.bethere.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:05] ok, let's get going [09:05] good evening [09:05] First up: core-de [09:05] v [09:05] I don't have anyone on my list for that === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === cyphase [n=cyphase@c-71-202-49-23.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:05] is there anyone here who's applied for core-dev, and thinks they should be on that list? [09:06] ok [09:06] next up: ubuntu-dev [09:06] yep :) [09:07] on my list, I have metres, mlind, Praveen Kumar, EtienneG, prash, TheMuso & Adri2000 [09:07] me too === TheMuso is here. === mvo is here to advocate for etienneg [09:07] is EtienneG here? === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:07] Keybuk, yep ! === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:08] previous meeting was cancelled so my application perhaps got dropped [09:08] you're first in date order; so introduce yourself [09:08] excellent === sabdfl [n=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:08] I am support analyst in the Mtl office [09:08] evening all [09:08] Launchpad packaging page : https://launchpad.net/~etienne-goyer-outlands/+packages [09:09] you package bzr? [09:09] I am also responsible for bzr package on http://bazaar-vcs.org/releases/packages [09:09] EtienneG: in addition, I understand you've been doing some packaging for the commercial repository, which is maintained outside of launchpad [09:09] Keybuk, yep, i took this over from jbailey [09:09] mdz, indeed [09:09] latest package there have been SugarCRM [09:10] have you worked with any MOTU? [09:10] I also package a few Canonical-internal things [09:10] sabdfl, not yet unfortunately [09:10] i think that's important to join ubuntu-dev [09:10] I had the chance of getting all my package sponsored by jbailey and mvo [09:10] i know that i knock on your door for things like bzr packaging but ubuntu-dev is all about motu [09:11] EtienneG worked with me quite a bit and I'm very happy with the work he is doing [09:11] EtienneG: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers ? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-20-70.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:11] mdz, yes === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:12] mostly, i am looking for more autonomy in the maintenance of bzr-related package [09:12] and to lessen the workload on my usual sponsors (mvo, jbailey) [09:13] i have a suggestion [09:13] I'm all ear === jbailey_ [n=jbailey@modemcable178.77-70-69.static.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:13] if we approve the motu council today, then all you would need is two motu council folks to +1 you and you'd be in there [09:13] that way you'd be known to them [09:13] since you're joining their team [09:14] sabdfl, sound perfectly good to me [09:14] for my part, +1, you can quote me on that [09:14] cool [09:14] sabdfl, thanks ! [09:14] sabdfl++ === mvo hugs EtienneG [09:15] ok, let's see if EtienneG can be the test case for the NewStreamlinedMotuProcess [09:15] next up? [09:15] excellent ! [09:15] ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MotuProcessesSpec ) [09:15] EtienneG: I think it's especially important in your case, as a Canonical employee, that you become more involved with the community, since it's easy to work with other developers internally and not develop a good relationship with the developer community [09:15] would that apply for the rest ot the motuhopefuls [09:15] ? [09:15] mdz: How does that affect upload rights for -commerical, though? === juliux_ [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:16] jbailey_: upload rights for -commercial should be the same as -core-dev, since it's nearly equivalent to main in terms of its presentation to users [09:16] -commercial isn't enabled by default, though? [09:16] it's designated "supported" in the UI [09:17] ok [09:17] tepsipakki: i don't mind dealing with prospectives now [09:18] particularly wanted EtienneG to be in the loop with MOTU council [09:18] ok [09:18] if you have a quick, clear cut case we can +1 you now [09:18] otherwise, we'll defer to MOTU council [09:18] sabdfl, mdz : this will certainly be [09:18] ok? [09:18] ok with me [09:19] cool, so I'm up next? [09:19] ok with me too [09:19] fire away [09:19] deferring to the MOTU countil should be much more convenient than coming to a future TB meeting, according to the docs [09:19] council, even [09:19] candidates, if you could write up your three line intro, url's to wiki pages, packaging histories etc, that would make things go smoothly [09:19] tepsipakki: you registered for ubuntu-dev almost 6 months ago; how come it's taken you so long to reach a TB meeting? [09:20] (w.r.t. mdz's comment that's because you can approach any 2 of the council at any time, not scheduled meetings like this, iirc) [09:20] (yes) [09:20] keybuk: I was here last time ;) [09:20] but you were not :) [09:20] so the meeting was cancelled [09:20] I think at one point you didn't have enough contributions, right? [09:21] yes, that was in october [09:21] tepsipakki: what have you been working on since then? [09:21] anyway, here's the wiki-page for the impatient: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimoAaltonen [09:22] there you can find links to the merges/syncs I've requested [09:22] (and other work, but thats what is new) [09:22] oops [09:22] tepsipakki: it mentions that you've been testing automated netboot installations. that's great, as those aren't tested as often as some other installation methods [09:22] tepsipakki: how do you report your test results? [09:23] poke colin ;) [09:23] when the installer team was created, I joined shortly after [09:23] tepsipakki: there is a wiki page which explains how to report results so that everyone can see them :-) [09:23] yeah, of course [09:23] I file bugs too [09:24] and sometimes even write patches to fix them [09:24] there are some that are on my list for feisty [09:24] which would make the installation a bit more robust [09:24] cjwatson: any comment on interactions with timo? [09:25] Colin is on a train somewhere, or on his way to one, unfortunately [09:25] tepsipakki did very well on looking at gnome-screensaver bugs - i got lots of mails :) [09:25] his comments are available if the logs of the cancelled meeting are somewhere [09:26] +1 from me, lots of work across a variety of packages, and clearly interacting with the right folks in a sensible way [09:26] oh yes, g-s is a pet of mine (sometimes) [09:26] tepsipakki: would you care to join the beta.launchpad.net group to take a peek? [09:26] sabdfl: what's that about? [09:27] oh, a test site? [09:27] ;-) [09:27] sure, if I only could get in ;) [09:27] ah [09:28] Jan 16 12:01:21 I can't be here for the TB meeting, but I'd like to express support for Timo Aaltonen; he's b [09:28] een useful on d-i work in the past and has expressed interest in helping out with installer merge work === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:28] mdz: you beat me to it :) [09:28] +1 based on positive feedback from dholbach and cjwatson [09:28] +1 from me also [09:28] sabdfl: ooh, shiny! [09:28] cool - welcome aboard, timo! [09:29] thanks! [09:29] np [09:29] to all [09:29] ok [09:29] next is TheMuso [09:29] I am Luke Yelavich, a 24 year old job seeker from Sydney, Australia. I am a member of the Ubuntu accessibility team, and have been working with MOTU for over 12 months with merges, and some bug triaging, mostly accessibility related. [09:29] wiki page: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukeYelavich [09:29] Launchpad page: http://launchpad.net/people/themuso [09:29] Packages: https://launchpad.net/~themuso/+packages [09:30] *\o/* [09:30] welcome tepsipakki [09:30] yowser :-) === heno would like to add that Luke has been a strong driving force in the accessibility team [09:31] so, err, any questions for TheMuso ? [09:31] heno++ === dholbach hugs TheMuso and heno === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:31] I believe crimsun emailed the TB about the work I have done with him. [09:31] "It is my pleasure to endorse fully the application of Luke Yelavich for [09:31] ubuntu-dev membership. For over one year, he has worked diligently in [09:31] MOTU on packaging and bug triaging (mostly a11y-related) and has [09:31] demonstrated positive interactions both in MOTU and with upstreams. [09:31] Ubuntu has gained a valuable contributor in Luke, and I welcome him to [09:31] the ubuntu-dev ranks." [09:31] he did [09:31] I'm familiar with TheMuso's accessibility work through henrik === willys_fueguino [n=willy@unaffiliated/willysfueguino/x-00001] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === sistpoty cheers for TheMuso [09:32] i've met luke in paris, iirc [09:32] TheMuso: I thought you were already ubuntu-dev [09:32] sabdfl: Briefly, but yes we did. [09:32] +1 from me based on a long track record of work generally, and specifically for contributions to ally [09:33] +1 from me also; Luke's contributions are well known to everyone, I think [09:33] +1 [09:33] TheMuso: maybe you could tell us what your single biggest hope for ubuntu is in 2007? [09:34] sabdfl: All I can say, si improving accessibility even further. There is still a long way to go, but every release we still manage to get something in that is new and useful. [09:34] Keybuk: is anyone else from your list present? [09:34] Adri2000 is [09:34] I am :) [09:34] Adri2000: please introduce yourself [09:35] I'm Adrien Cunin, 16 years old french student. [09:35] My work on universe/multiverse packages: bug fixes, merges/syncs, new upstream releases. Also some new packages, I now maintain two of them in Debian. [09:35] All of that is described on my wiki page, so take a look at it ;) [09:35] My plans as a MOTU: I will keep doing general motu stuff (bugs, merges, syncs, new upstream releases...), but also (more detailed on the wiki): collaboration with Debian (I already often file bugs in the Debian BTS), QA, help/sponsor/revu MOTU hopefuls/enthusiasts. [09:35] Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdrienCunin | LP: https://launchpad.net/~adri2000 | Packages: https://launchpad.net/~adri2000/+packages === Lure applied when meeting started [09:35] The main MOTUs I've worked with are gpocentek (he's here), crimsun (he sent an email to technical-board at lists.ubuntu.com) and also geser (I think he's here). [09:35] "In the past several months, Adrien has worked diligently with MOTU in [09:35] bug triaging, in merging and syncing Ubuntu universe source packages, [09:35] and in helping community members who are not as well versed with Debian [09:35] packaging on REVU. His dedication to assisting MOTU hopefuls, too, is [09:35] noteworthy and illustrates the positive influence that anyone can have [09:35] on the Ubuntu distribution. I welcome him as a ubuntu-dev member." [09:35] well done TheMuso, your work is really important, and i hope you continue to draw a community around you to drive this forward === gpocentek cheers for Adri2000 :) [09:36] sabdfl: Thanks. === sistpoty cheers for Adri2000 as well [09:36] FWIW, I've seen a fair amount of sync requests from Adri2000 which so far have been good. [09:36] Keybuk: quoth? [09:36] sabdfl: crimsun on tb mailing list about Adri2000 [09:36] he's done a great work on the packages I've reviewed/uploaded [09:36] Adri2000: where did you learn Debian packaging? === seb128 [n=seb128@ANancy-151-1-3-22.w83-194.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:37] mdz: with gpocentek's lessons in #ubuntu-fr-classroom and then in #ubuntu-motu :) === Toadstool sneaks in, waves and cheers for Adri2000 === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Ubuntu-Meeting [09:37] NO BUGS AT ALL? [09:38] must be no users :-) === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has left #Ubuntu-Meeting ["It's] [09:39] you've touched a lot of packages, Adri2000, is there a theme to your work? [09:39] gpocentek: can you be more specific about your experience? [09:39] sabdfl: not really, I don't have any favourite kind of package [09:39] gpocentek: what gives you the feeling that Adri2000 is ready to upload without review? [09:40] mdz: well, all the packages I've reviewed were good, with no need to fix them [09:40] sabdfl: just want to make universe even better :) [09:40] mdz: he is also really helpful to others, and I think that's because he knows how to do things well [09:41] Adri2000: how does homebank compare to gnucash? === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === jkakar [n=jkakar@204-174-36-228.unknown-dhcp802.dsl.ucc-net.ca] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] [09:43] well, I packaged homebank and merged gnucash but I can't really say because I don't use them very often (just to test) === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:44] Adri2000: really? why would you want to maintain a package which is of no use to you? [09:46] IIRC, I found homebank on MOTU/Packages/Candidates (requests from users) and the website was looking for packagers, so I emailed upstream and packaged it [09:46] and I'm still in touch with upstream and still maintain it (bugs, new upstream releases), even if I don't use it daily [09:47] interesting [09:47] sabdfl: any further questions? [09:47] i'm quite happy with what i've seen - lots of package work, and goot references from motu and -core-dev. +1 from me [09:48] mdz: it's Universe, most of what we "maintain" we don't actually use [09:48] +1 as well, thanks and good luck [09:48] scott is away [09:48] so let's take 2 as quorum [09:48] welcome aboard! [09:48] LaserJock: it's different when you're a designated maintainer for a package, its primary caregiver [09:48] congrats Adri2000 :) [09:48] thanks all! [09:49] mdz: but we stress in Universe to not have a designated maintainer [09:49] it's MOTU maintained [09:49] that leaves metres, mlind, Praveen Kumar, prash from Keybuk's list [09:49] mdz, sabdfl: I applied when meeting started, so not sure if I should wait next round (MOTU Conucil) [09:49] lure, that's fine, join the end of the list === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:50] metres? [09:50] not here [09:50] mlind not here [09:50] praveen? [09:50] not here [09:50] LaserJock: indeed, we don't work exclusively, but to me it's surprising to package and devote special attention to a package one doesn't use at all [09:50] I mailed them all (not mlind, because I've seen him around and thought he's show up) [09:50] prash - not here! [09:50] that was quick :-) [09:50] dholbach: i think this will all be easier with the new process [09:51] sabdfl: yeah [09:51] Lure is here [09:51] roll on Lure :-) [09:51] Luka Renko, Kubuntu team member contributing for around a year, main interests [09:51] are laptop and network support. Applying for MOTU to offload sponsors for [09:51] some packages of my interest (eqonomize, soundkonverter, powersave, kpowersave). [09:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LukaRenko LP: https://launchpad.net/~lure/+packages [09:51] Lure: who has been uploading your packages? === skateinmars [n=skateinm@arl13-1-82-240-6-242.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:51] I mainly work with Kubuntu team (Riddell, Tonio_, Hobbsee [09:52] are any of them here? [09:52] Some universe upload were done also by crimsun, geser, bddebian [09:52] I've seen your name around, but I can't say that I'm familiar with your work [09:53] mdz: my primary work is actually on main stuff for Kubuntu laptop/network support [09:53] mdz: I was also on UDS-MTV [09:53] mdz: I apply for motu, primarily to get my universe work directly [09:54] Lure: how is the kubuntu community shaping up? [09:54] sabdfl: I think better and better which each release [09:54] Lure: I see, thanks [09:54] Lure: though I don't have any direct experience of your work [09:54] sabdfl: we have some coders now for bug squasing and 3-4 active core-devs [09:55] sabdfl: I can say each release we get quite some new names on board [09:55] Lure: it's best if the people you've worked with can tell the board about their experience working with you, as we can't know everything directly [09:56] mdz: yep, I applied late, so could not arrange to get them here [09:57] what about QA? [09:57] sabdfl: we have now kubunut-testers activity, kicked-off by mhb and hope we can get more interest === willys_fueguino [n=willy@unaffiliated/willysfueguino/x-00001] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Visitennos] [09:58] Lure: your packages uploaded list is impressive, clearly people trust you enough to upload [09:58] but i think it would be best to get some testimonials [09:58] with the new process, they could send a signed email testimonial to the MOTU council [09:58] could you pursue that with them? [09:59] sabdfl: I can wait another round (through council) [09:59] unless someone is available now that you have worked with? [09:59] who has sponsored most of your uploads? [09:59] sabdfl: Riddell and Tonio_ === pochu [n=pochu@179.Red-88-7-169.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [09:59] sabdfl: I ping them recently, but they do not seem to be around [09:59] it's problematic for us to make a decision on something as sensitive as broad upload privileges based only on information provided by the applicant [10:00] mdz: I am fine to go through conucil [10:00] (though clearly people have been willing to upload your packages) [10:00] ok, should be quick and easy [10:01] glad to test the new process ;-) === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:01] Hobbsee might say something about my work (but still most uploads were in main) ;-) [10:02] ok [10:02] so lets postpone it [10:02] thanks for your patience [10:02] on with the agenda: the MOTU council is next [10:02] mdz: no problem [10:02] dholbach: ? === LjL [n=ljl@81-208-36-87.ip.fastwebnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:03] ok... the main processes are sorted out already, but there are some things to the motu council can not decide for themselves, like nomination process, term length, etc [10:03] dholbach: does the MOTU council already have CC approval? [10:03] CC members told me that the TB was going to approve the MC [10:04] yes - we are happy, TB should approve and appoint === Hobbsee belatedly cheers for Lure! [10:04] yay! [10:04] shall we just go through the list on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda ? [10:04] sure === joejaxx [i=joejaxx@ubuntu/member/joejaxx] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:04] first item is the nomination process [10:05] ok, some people wanted to know more about the nomination process [10:05] I think council members should be nominated by MOTU, and confirmed by the tech board [10:05] Lure: sorry, i didnt know :( [10:05] @now Madrid [10:05] Current time in Europe/Madrid: January 30 2007, 22:05:49 - Current meeting: Technical Board [10:06] or possibly the reverse === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:06] ;-) [10:07] with the CC / TB, SABDFL nominates and community votes to confirm or select a subset of the nomination [10:07] i'd prefer the same for MOTU council [10:07] folks can of course say they are interested [10:07] it should be consistent with other team councils [10:08] it makes sense to me [10:08] any questions from any MOTUs about that? [10:08] the current draft doesn't specify any nomination at all, as far as I see [10:08] (or MOTU hopefuls :)) [10:08] yes, that's right [10:08] so what is the proposal? TB nominates and MOTUs vote to confirm? [10:08] well [10:08] on the other hand [10:09] the TB is confirmed by ALL developers, including motu [10:09] so [10:09] sabdfl: are you familiar enough with various MOTUs who are involved? [10:09] that's what I was thinking [10:09] it might be simpler just to say "the TB appoint MOTU council" and be done [10:09] they will obviously try to get it right [10:09] and be sensitive to suggestions that they did not, if that happens [10:10] should we go with the lighter touch? [10:11] I'm happy with a process which is consistent with other team councils [10:11] I personally don't care as much how it's done ( I trust TB ) as that it does get done [10:11] nominations from TB and confirmation from MOTU sounds reasonable [10:12] mdz: fyi, Kubuntu council was nominated and elected by Kubuntu team members [10:12] i think the confirmation is excess bureacracy, but i've no problem if MOTU prefers it that way [10:12] mdz: not sure if this is same [10:12] Edubuntu Council was nominated and elected by Edubuntu people as well [10:12] in general should be nomination by the body that is getting reported to, then confirmation from the group they represent [10:13] sabdfl: I think confirmation is a good thing... gives motu's the feeling that they have some participation in the process as well [10:13] ok [10:13] both edubuntu and kubuntu jumped the queue, a little [10:13] but hey, they picked DAMN GOOD PEOPLE! [10:14] bah. fire us if you like :P [10:14] For the time I've been involved with MOTU, I've got the impression that it is a very close knit community. [10:14] let's agree on TB nomination, MOTU confirmation, and move on [10:14] agreed [10:14] "Discuss ubuntumembers and ubuntu-core-dev membership requirements with CC and TB." [10:14] among MOTU, i suspect that there are certain people that stand out, that would be good for the job, like there were for kubuntu [10:14] ubuntumembers? [10:14] mdz: I think similar could be done for Kubuntu/Edubuntu in future: CC nomination, team confirmation [10:14] that doesn't make sense [10:15] ubuntu-core-dev guidelines are documented on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers [10:15] ubuntumembers are determined by the CC and its delegates [10:15] yeah, I was just going to say [10:15] I think some people wanted to make sure that the list of requirements / things the MC wants to check for applicants is ok with the TB [10:15] TB interprets the -core-dev guidelines and approves new core developers [10:16] dholbach: likewise for ubuntu-dev; I've written down what I think are the fundamental traits of an Ubuntu developer [10:16] dholbach: the MOTU council should use those when considering applicants [10:16] i'd say 2 year term, staggered [10:16] right, I think we can move on [10:16] so we nominate half for one year now, half for two years [10:16] but how we determaine if an applicant has those traits would be up to the MC? [10:16] then renew/replace the 1st half in a year [10:16] then it becomes regular 2-year appointments [10:17] also, MOTU would be granting membership [10:17] so they of course need to factor that in too [10:17] i.o.w. make ubuntu-dev a part of ubuntumembers [10:17] so folks don't have to go to two meetings [10:17] hm... not quite sure if 2 years is a bit too long... many of our "good" motu's moved from universe to main during shorter time [10:17] 2 year is quite a while - are the other council memberships also that long? [10:17] once they are a -dev, they are a member [10:17] sistpoty: they can of course stay on the governance of MOTU [10:18] they would be experienced [10:18] Edubuntu Council is 2 releases (1 year) [10:18] dholbach: kubuntu council is 1 year [10:18] LaserJock: yes, though they should justify their decision when making it [10:18] i would want to have -core-dev representation on the council [10:18] There is imbrandon and crimsun who also are regular MOTU contributers who are core-dev. [10:18] sistpoty: I don't think that doing things in 'main' hinders people from working with MOTUs [10:18] Lure, LaserJock: it gets tiresome to do the voting more often that once per year, and if you want a rolling council, then you need to vote at least twice during one term [10:18] Lure: we must be coming up to that, surely? [10:19] dholbach: no, it doesn't... but from my experience ppl. will have much less time for universe then ;) [10:19] sistpoty: i suspect that will become less true as the pool grows [10:19] though it's definitely been true so far [10:19] sabdfl: I hope so :) [10:20] sistpoty: I think that everybody on the MC will know what is expected from him/her and live up to that :) [10:20] -core-dev is hugely dependent on good work in motu [10:21] dholbach: do you have the list of proposed MC members we discussed? === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-6-166.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:21] sabdfl: yeah [10:21] list 'em? [10:22] sabdfl: we discussed crimsun, sistpoty, gpocentek and ajmitch [10:22] and you? [10:22] and me [10:23] how about we nominate 3 for 2 year terms, and 2 for a one year term (they could be renewed) [10:23] alphabetically, a, c, d, g, s [10:23] how about we just nominate a, d, s for 2 year terms [10:23] and c, g for 1 year term? [10:23] there's no prejudice to the 1 year nominates [10:24] other than that we want to get the rolling going [10:24] does crimsun have time to it, due to new work commitments? [10:24] don't think motu will have long meetings [10:24] Hobbsee: He'd probably just say yes anyway. :p [10:24] dholbach: have all of those people volunteered to stand? [10:24] Hobbsee: I talked with him about that. He was fine with that. [10:24] mdz: yes [10:24] ok then [10:24] should be more about availability to review candidates for -dev [10:25] if we covered all the timezones i would be happiest [10:25] dholbach: ah right [10:25] then people can find a member of the council, make their case, and get a +1 in their own timezone [10:25] and I think that after a few meetings the MC will have other processes sorted out nicely as well [10:25] right, aim should NOT be CC-style meetings :-) [10:25] just a "wise elders" group that can approve good folks who are doing good work [10:25] sabdfl: haha. just dont get any australian people to do it. [10:26] oh, we trust aussies despite heaps of experience [10:26] Thanks!! [10:26] dholbach: thoughts? [10:26] ajmitch is in one of those ridiculous time zones, no? [10:26] should be a good spread [10:26] really need two in a timezone [10:27] so if there are other good candidates interested, i'd be happy to hear from them [10:27] and make appointments in mid-cycle [10:27] we don't need to wait a year [10:27] the motu council could be 7-9 people easily [10:27] well... I'm quite a night owl, so I rather hang around with ajmitch than with dholbach ;) [10:27] mdz: NZ. and that's slightly better [10:27] sabdfl: you may trust us, but 3am meetings suck. [10:28] dholbach could always also get a second opinion from a TB member [10:28] I like the idea... what do other MOTUs think? Are you happy with the 1year/2year term rolling? [10:28] Hobbsee: idea would be to have only local folks in a meeting [10:28] it's valuable for the council to be spread out, so that hopefuls have someone to go to who will be around when they are [10:28] im happy with that [10:28] so we could have one in sane hours for asia, with asian council members [10:28] not like TB where we try to have one meeting for the globe [10:28] i think this will be much more efficient [10:28] and easier on the motu council [10:28] will make it easier to get good folkstoparticipate [10:29] inthe council, and in -dev === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:29] dholbach: I'm fine with it I guess [10:29] it would certainly help creating -devs, but it might lead to confusion if the european meeting says x about a policy while the aussies say y [10:30] but I guess we could get that aligned somehow ;) [10:30] sistpoty: we should hope that the council communicate with one another :-) [10:30] exactly, hopefully most policy discussion would involve ML though [10:30] s/council/& members/ [10:30] I'm sure the MC will manage. :-) [10:30] we're 90 minutes in now; are there any further outstanding issues about the MOTU council? [10:31] good point on the consistency front [10:31] Ok, seems we have clarified "Clarify the process for the next appointment." too, so there's only "Clarify the process for communication between TB and MC for ubuntu-dev membership approval." left [10:31] we should look out for that since this is the first time we're creating something that we want to work as a parallel team [10:32] MOTU council should make a note for each candidate [10:32] on why they were approved [10:32] then TB should review those quickly in each meeting [10:32] dholbach: what I'd like to see is a writeup for each applicant, with an explanation of the council's decision, sent to the tech board [10:32] so that we can see how the guidelines have been applied === ajmitch is back [10:33] to the mailing list? no meeting-like reporting? for other decision too? [10:33] if there's inconsistency we might ask for someone on TB to ack each decision [10:33] i.e., review the applicant's work against UbuntuDevelopers [10:33] but for the moment, let's trust that it will just work [10:33] mailing list or wiki page [10:33] so that there's a concise record of the process [10:33] should be a public list [10:33] the TB list is private [10:34] a mail with a link to the wiki would work too, hm? :) [10:34] perfectly :-) [10:34] rock and roll :) [10:34] this just for approval cases [10:34] not for declines or "come back when you've done this" [10:34] ok [10:34] anything else regarding the MC? I'm happy [10:34] PUMPED? [10:34] sounds good [10:34] ABSOLUTELY :-) === dholbach hugs sabdfl [10:34] we need the final acks still ;) [10:34] right, there's no need to justify deferring an application until a later date [10:35] "like i'm your long lost best friend" :-) [10:35] sabdfl: sure you are :-) [10:35] +1 from me [10:35] the council should feel free to do so if it has doubts [10:35] without any embarrassment for those involved [10:35] I'm in agreement [10:35] dholbach: will you document those changes so we can sign off on the final document? [10:35] again, fomr my perspective, any two folks on the council should be sufficient [10:35] mdz: yes [10:36] so it doesn't bottleneck on quorum across timezones [10:36] dholbach: we can do that by mail with the full TB, and not wait for another meeting [10:36] alright [10:36] it should be considered by all members of the tech board, and I don't want it to block on meetings [10:36] thanks [10:36] thank you [10:36] next -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpAndSupportAccess [10:36] we can see some inside from SF are getting into the Ubuntu folklore ... :) [10:36] well done dholbach - this is a fantastic step [10:36] for the motu === sabdfl applauds [10:37] mdke asked that we consider this proposal to change the help interface in the desktop [10:37] sabdfl: we all have big expectations :-) [10:37] I did an initial review and asked for some clarifications [10:37] which he seems to have made [10:39] I like the idea of replacing the submenu with a clearer, more navigable page [10:39] the current menu is confusing [10:41] I think the page layout could use some tweaking [10:41] but the basic idea seems sound [10:41] in principle i think this is a good change [10:41] the offer of community and commercial support will get more prominence by release [10:41] i expect that to be a little contentious [10:42] nevertheless, the new proposal is more attractive than the four submenus [10:42] and more sensible [10:42] mdke finally talked me round :-) === coNP [n=conp@pool-00086.externet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === coNP [n=conp@pool-00086.externet.hu] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["c-x] === MatthewV [n=MatthewV@202.183.115.247] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:43] ok then [10:43] I'll mark it as approved, and document the feedback [10:43] we can fine-tune the page as needed [10:43] next -- reportbug [10:44] we shipped reportbug in the default install in earlier releases [10:44] sorry [10:44] sec [10:44] do we have full HTML capability on that page? [10:44] yes [10:44] or is it just Yelp? [10:44] it's Yelp [10:44] so FSVO "full" [10:45] hmm [10:45] will ask the folks working on the web site to work with mdke on the page [10:45] need to be able to present a classy picture [10:45] ok, that's all from me [10:45] reportbug! [10:45] right, we stopped installing reportbug by default in edgy [10:46] because it doesn't support reporting bugs to launchpad, and other approaches were in development [10:46] we now have apport [10:46] which does what we wanted reportbug to do originally, and more [10:46] in the relevant bug report about this, it was suggested that having reportbug in main is confusing, since it's not our preferred bug reporting tool === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:47] since it was removed from desktop, the only reason it's still in main is that it's a dependency of dpkg-dev-el === ajmitch saw some brainstorming about rewriting reportbug to file directly into malone via the html forms [10:47] (emacs extensions for Debian package development) [10:48] we can a) drop dpkg-dev-el to universe, b) modify dpkg-dev-el not to depend on reportbug (and appropriate modifications so it's not needed), or c) leave it alone [10:48] reportbug is still useful to keep, but probably not for shipping on the cd [10:48] it isn't shipped on the CD [10:49] b seems the least intrusive [10:49] yes, though it does mean diverging the package from Debian [10:49] and thus more merge work [10:49] would they not accept the patch? [10:49] < mdz> next -- reportbug [10:49] bah, sorry === TheMuso [n=luke@ubuntu/member/themuso] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] [10:51] wow, I'm getting 1 kilobyte a second from Farmingdale's wireless [10:51] I don't think having reportbug in main is particularly confusing [10:51] and it's useful for reporting bugs to projects which use debbugs (including Debian) [10:51] the reportbug description could refer peopleto apport for standard ubuntu bug reporting? [10:51] but I don't have strong feelings either way, which is why I brought it here === somerville32 pants as he finally catches up on reading several pages of backlog. [10:52] this has been a long meeting already, though, and I'm happy to take it to email on technical-board@ === heno [n=henrik@ubuntu/member/heno] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] [10:53] i'm happy with b or c [10:53] mdz, your call [10:53] ok [10:53] any other BRIEF business? ;-) [10:54] done! [10:54] and well done [10:54] thanks, all [10:54] very pleased to see the MOTU reaching this point [10:55] welcome aboard, new devs [10:55] adjourned [10:55] (sorry for missing the meeting - was a long day) [10:55] thanks for discussing the spec anyway [10:55] mdke: you can review the log [10:56] mdz: sure [10:56] thanks for sitting through & approving the council === Burgwork [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === mdke reviews dinner first [10:57] yay, thanks for the MC thingie :) [10:57] is there a scribe? === dinda [n=dinda@194.209.131.192] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [10:58] I summarized the meeting in Issue30 [10:59] the scribes have their first meeting scheduled this week [10:59] that meeting should be summarized if any ever was ;-) [10:59] night sabdfl, night mdz [10:59] night dholbach === mdz [n=mdz@87-194-36-33.bethere.co.uk] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Ex-Chat"] === givre [n=Florent@APuteaux-152-1-6-166.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === tepsipakki [n=tjaalton@replicant.hut.fi] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === geser [n=michael@ubuntu/member/geser] has left #ubuntu-meeting ["Leaving"] === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === zul [n=chuck@CPE0006258ec6c1-CM000a73655d0e.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === ..[topic/#ubuntu-meeting:Ubugtu] : Calendar: http://fridge.ubuntu.com/event | Logs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 31 Jan 20:00 UTC: Edubuntu | 31 Jan 22:00 UTC: Xubuntu | 31 Jan 23:00 UTC: Kubuntu | 01 Feb 21:00 UTC: Ubuntu Development Team | 05 Feb 20:00 UTC: Mozilla Team | 07 Feb 12:00 UTC: Edubuntu === _MMA_ [n=mma@cpe-071-070-203-016.nc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === cr3 [n=marc@pdpc/supporter/bronze/cr3] has left #ubuntu-meeting [] === Seeker` [n=cjo20@84-12-171-110.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-meeting === nalioth_ [i=nalioth@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.nalioth] has joined #ubuntu-meeting [11:42] sabdfl: You still up? 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