[12:33] i put them back, but the printout shows ` and not ' for the first, and the second one I can't find on the keyboard (angles the other way) === Majic [n=cookie@adsl-69-226-109-55.dsl.skt2ca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [12:37] how did you just type it then? [12:37] the open quote I can find, just not the closed one [12:38] the open quote ` with the regular closed quote ' also throw the error === HeathenDan [n=name@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [12:51] yeah, so hey Jester. how's it going? What brings you here? [12:52] im all ways here [12:52] !seen cellofellow [12:52] I last saw cellofellow (n=josh@geek-17.69-71-160-0.qwest.dsl.vcn.com) 1d 5h 54m 3s ago, quiting: Client Quit [12:52] arrg [12:52] LOL [12:52] Did'nt know you ran xubuntu [12:52] lol [12:52] i do [12:53] very much so [12:53] as you main OS? [12:53] xubuntu windows regualr debian and looking into suse [12:53] pretty much [12:53] windows for gaming so its 1/2 and 1/2 [12:54] So how come you choose Xubuntu over, say Ubuntu? [12:54] Gah... Quod Libet still won't run >_< [12:55] tis better [12:55] Gets to Opening Audio Device and goes no further. [12:56] It's better in certain situations I think [12:56] megamaced: i got webserver :) its da bomb ------> jesteris.boldygoingnowhere.org [12:57] Jester45: Thats running over Xubuntu right? [12:57] Jester45: Getting 0wn3d by the amount of pop-ups you sight has [12:58] yes its x [12:59] I've got a problem with my Xubuntu settings manager: see the pic http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8796/xfcesettingsmanagerqg6.jpg [12:59] The 'button label' text appears for some reason [01:00] popups? [01:00] what are you talking abouty [01:00] megamaced: whats your verson === DarthLappy [n=Angus@pdpc/supporter/student/DarthShrine] has joined #xubuntu === grazie [n=grazie@host81-158-184-99.range81-158.btcentralplus.com] has joined #xubuntu === DrX0 [n=DrX@adsl-68-120-71-127.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:04] megamaced: kaffine? thats nasty why u use that [01:04] huh? [01:05] your in #kaffine [01:05] kaffeine [01:05] Yeah, I was sorting out my remote control [01:06] I can use it to change channels and view the epg :-) [01:06] why not mplayer? [01:06] Because TV is so much easier to set up in Kaffeine! [01:07] Kaffeine is a pretty good app you know. Sure it has a tendancy to crash when you least want it but I can make do with that [01:08] !schedule [01:08] Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule === totalwor1age is now known as totalwormage [01:11] !vlc > megamaced [01:11] what herd is feisty 2? or has it moved on [01:11] Jester45: still 2 atm [01:11] looks like its all most 3 [01:11] 2 [01:11] megamaced: well ... ubotu was supposed to tell you about vlc ... anyhoo ... i recommend vlc for media [01:12] i still recommend mplayer/menocder combo [01:12] Yeah, I know about all of those, I've tried all of those, and Kaffeine & Amarok pwn them all :P [01:12] i don't do much media so don't listen to me [01:13] oooo, there is a gtk app that is newer that apparently dominates amarok ... wish i could think of it [01:13] exaile? [01:13] maxamillion: it's called Exaile [01:13] sounds about right :) [01:13] Yeah it's OK [01:13] i think amarok is way better [01:14] Still got a bit of catching up to do yet [01:14] oh ... i heard it was like the best thing to happen to linux music players yet [01:14] But it's one to look out for in the future [01:14] Not yet it isn't :-) [01:14] meh ... i still use xmms [01:15] If I'd have to choose a GTK app then I'd go with Rythmbox for audio [01:15] Banshee is too unstable I am afraid [01:16] maxamillion: have you tried Beep? [01:16] megamaced: nope === DannyBhoy [n=name@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [01:16] i still like xmms, nice and simple. I wish I could get it to play aacplus streams though [01:16] maxamillion: It's an updated GTK+2 version of XMMS [01:16] maxamillion: So it's got nice menus [01:16] grazie: i'm not sure what aacplus streams are ... but have you heard of streamtuner? [01:16] megamaced: ooooh, yeah ... i've heard of that [01:17] maxamillion: I run beep as the default music player on my Xubuntu installation [01:17] maxamillion: yes I use streamtuner...it's stream bookmark app really [01:17] grazie: oh ok .... again with the non-media centric me [01:17] :P [01:17] Streamtuner is pretty good, although ive had trouble connecting to live365 with it recently === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.252.103] has joined #xubuntu [01:19] www.x-kings.com <--- join me to conquer the world === dekker_avesque [n=ubuntu@69.37.26.220] has joined #xubuntu [01:19] installing Xubuntu right now [01:19] using liveCD to chat [01:19] yeah, it randomly stopped letting my listen to 1.fm channel X so i switch to 1.fm - High Voltage [01:19] dekker_avesque: awesome! welcome to our world [01:20] i used to use Morphix with XFCE, moved to ubuntu with windows dual boot [01:20] then windows somehow raped my harddrive [01:20] and managed to screw up every partition [01:20] that's pretty common [01:20] Anyone good with screen? [01:20] so i damned microsoft once and for all [01:20] and downloaded the new Xubuntu, because i dislike Gnome at times [01:20] DarthLappy: i've dabbled, what's up? [01:21] maxamillion: \o/ Backspace is set to ^H. Not fun for irssi. [01:21] i like *BOX, but i don't think it's practical currently [01:21] dekker_avesque: good for you [01:21] was a bootleg Windows copy anyway [01:21] DarthLappy: oh yeah ... no clue, sorry :( [01:21] paying for microsoft products? :P [01:21] insanity [01:21] lol [01:22] anyone used Ktoon? [01:22] :( [01:22] there was a recent study and they say that 22-27% of all windows installations in the USA are bootlegged [01:22] that's great [01:22] hehe [01:22] personally, OSX is the best commercial OS on the market [01:22] mine be bootleg [01:22] if i were going to pay for an OS, it'd be taht [01:22] *that [01:23] but i don't think the most essential of softwares should cost money [01:23] bootleg - in China it must be aboutr 90% [01:23] hah [01:24] dekker_avesque: personally? ... factually would have been a better word [01:24] dekker_avesque: well ... atleast for the desktop, i would rather has a solaris server than a OS X server [01:24] agreed [01:25] i think NetBSD is a pretty ideal server setup [01:25] slackware's nice as well [01:25] i've played around with Darwin (-aqua) for servers [01:25] and it's pretty solid [01:25] dekker_avesque: well ... NetBSD and slackware aren't commercial ;) [01:25] no real advantages to BSD that i was aware of, but nonetheless decent [01:25] i sent off for the free solaris 10 dvd, but it's not arrived yet [01:26] true [01:26] dekker_avesque: i actually prefer just flat out debian for servers ... stability that can not be rivaled [01:26] nor is darwin for that matter unless it's packaged with aqua as osx [01:26] grazie: me too :) [01:26] this is true [01:26] grazie: i posted the link on ubuntuforums.org :P [01:26] slackware is just nice because it's so automated [01:26] installation was a pain [01:27] but once it's running it needn't be messed with usually [01:27] maxamillion: I may have seen it there - can't remember [01:28] grazie: i also posted here .... and in a couple other places, i'm a big fan of free *nix [01:28] grazie: well, in this case it just saves me from having to buy a DVD-R ... but stilll [01:28] has anyone tested wine with steam her? [01:28] *here [01:28] i've seen it done in screenshots [01:29] but never gotten it to work properly [01:29] never gotten WINE to work quiety "properly" at all for that matter [01:29] *quite [01:29] dekker_avesque: have you tried Crossover instead? [01:29] one day the world will that M$ is third rate. I think it'll all happen in China myself [01:29] dekker_avesque: It didn't work for me when I tried. [01:29] dekker_avesque: theres a free trial on their website [01:30] dekker_avesque: yeah, i think the screenshots are edited with the GIMP, i have even tried with cedega and no go [01:30] its good for about 30 days [01:30] Crossover? [01:30] unfamiliar with it === HeathenDan [n=name@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] Google 'Codeweavers Crossover' [01:30] ok [01:31] As I said, the free trial is good for 30 days and ran almost all windows apps I threw at it [01:32] neat [01:32] there's some wine-based gaming app i've heard of [01:32] Woot, well I fixed it by changing what Xterm sends :( [01:32] don't remember the name [01:32] but i believe it's geared towards things like Steam [01:33] hey, question: do you have sound in Flash on Xubuntu 6.10? [01:33] dekker_avesque: are you refering to Cedega? [01:33] or does it require a workaround? [01:33] i might be, i don't remember [01:33] how do you change the background of html? im a little rusty on this [01:33] Yes I have sound in Flash 9 [01:33] i know that on hoary hedgehog i had to replace the firefox DSP with AOSS [01:33] i have sound [01:33] ... supposedly [01:33] and it still continued to not output sound [01:34] What version of flash? [01:34] you didn't have to tweak it? [01:34] they must've fixed that [01:34] Jester45: style="background: # or url("foo.ext");" [01:34] Flash 7 is a nightmare [01:34] 7 and 9 [01:34] dekker_avesque: yeah, on 32-bit ... but gnash on amd64 is kinda tricky... its alpha so i don't get upset [01:34] tried both [01:34] that was with Hoary Hedgehog though [01:34] All i did was copy the plugin to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins [01:34] thats it. it worked [01:34] so it wouldn't surprise me that it'd be fixed by now [01:34] I just installed flashplugin-nonfree :) [01:35] yeah, it must be fixed then [01:35] Is flash 9 backported now then? [01:35] !flash9 [01:35] Flash 9 (Final release) is now available for dapper-backports and edgy-backports. See !backports and !flash [01:35] I guess so then [01:35] !backports [01:35] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [01:35] I have flash9 installed [01:35] megamaced: yeah ... actually i think in edgy its in universe ... [01:35] !flash [01:35] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [01:35] I did it manually [01:36] 2 days ago [01:36] !info flash-plugin [01:36] Package flash-plugin does not exist in any distro I know [01:36] Have any of you tried Prevu? It's great for backporting [01:36] Do you want to know how I installed flash? [01:36] !info flashplayer-mozilla [01:36] basically it's a script that automates the backporting process for you [01:36] flashplayer-mozilla: Macromedia Flash Player. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 6.0.79-0.2 (edgy), package size 685 kB, installed size 1528 kB (Only available for i386) [01:36] well that doesn't tell much [01:37] maxamillion: Look [01:37] (05:03:34 PM) RememberPOL: Sweet I solved my issue (of FLV video not playing in Xubuntu 6.10 due to outdated ffmpeg [fixed in fiesty-7.04, not being backported because ffmpeg breaks api/abi] ) by downloading http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashplayer/updaters/9/flash_player_9_linux_dev.tar.gz then extracting libflashplayer.so and flashplayer.xpt from /flash_player_9_linux_dev/plugin/debugger/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz/insta [01:37] it's not too hard [01:38] RememberPOL: yeah, but its in the repositories ... i just installed the plugin and it was flash 9 in edgy (on my 32-bit laptop from work) ... i run amd64 at both my desk at work and my home desktop [01:38] oh cool [01:38] it wasn't in the repo 3 days ago.. [01:38] gnash is kinda cruddy though [01:38] heh [01:38] RememberPOL: i think it was ... i installed it 2 weeks ago [01:38] gnash doesn't support flash 9 content [01:38] what is gnash? [01:39] !gnash [01:39] An open source flash replacement. It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ [01:39] oh [01:39] :) [01:39] well my system is ready to reboot [01:39] are you talking about gnash v9? [01:39] you've all been very entertaining [01:39] i'm talking about a mozilla/firefox adobe v9 flash [01:39] i'm sure you'll see me again when i can't get the ntfs-3 to compile [01:39] :) [01:39] lol === dekker_avesque [n=ubuntu@69.37.26.220] has left #xubuntu [] [01:40] you know ... maybe i enabled backports and didn't realize it, that's probably how i got flash 9 on that laptop [01:40] !opera [01:40] opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser. Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser [01:40] http://jesteris.boldlygoingnowhere.org/ [01:40] !backports [01:40] If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports [01:40] RememberPOL: no no ... gnash still only has flash7 compatibility (to my knowledge) ... i think i just added backports and forgot [01:40] RememberPOL: i don't even know how we got on the topic of flash to be honest [01:41] flashplugin-nonfree (9.0.31~ubuntu1~edgy1) [multiverse] [01:41] well there you go [01:41] heh [01:41] wahoo!!!! i get off work in 15 minutes!!! [01:41] i dunno i had that installed but i could have sworn it was still only v7 but w/e [01:42] RememberPOL: i have heard of issues during the upgrade ... i think it was kinda a hit or miss [01:44] well like i said.. doing it manually is not hard at all so if anyone has questions on that they can pm me [01:44] cool cool, i'll send 'em your way if they stumble in :) [01:44] Heh. === DarthLappy continues stabbing Quod Libet [01:45] ? [01:45] It won't run! [01:45] what is it? [01:45] A music player. [01:46] ah [01:47] Ya. I don't really like gxine :) [01:47] if it weren't for Flash and Java i would buy a PowerMac Dual G5 as my next desktop ... :/ [01:47] [01:47] How do they stop you? O_o === DannyBhoy [n=name@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [01:49] well ... first, i can't afford it and second ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin//search_packages.pl?version=edgy&subword=1&exact=&arch=any&releases=all&case=insensitive&keywords=sun-java&searchon=names .... and .... http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=flash&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all [01:49] DarthLappy: no flash or java support for ppc :( [01:49] maxamillion: ...and some ear muffs! [01:49] D: [01:50] O_o Quod Libet *finally* opened. [01:50] i dunno .... my AMD64 machines have been good to me, i guess i will just keep with them ... might even take the jump to intel unless AMD gets its act together and starts helping out the open source community === SAXD9 [n=SAXD9@cpe-70-120-208-187.houston.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] But it looks frozen >_< [01:50] i sorry === b_52Free [n=skimo@adsl196-229-33-217-196.adsl196-10.iam.net.ma] has joined #xubuntu === SAXD9 [n=SAXD9@cpe-70-120-208-187.houston.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [01:58] Aha, it seems like it only hates me when the samba mountpoint where all the music is isn't mounted. === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.252.103] has joined #xubuntu === alex_ [n=alex@ns.codacommerce.co.uk] has joined #xubuntu [02:11] why do i get "Unable to mount 'foo' failed to determine the mount point for /dev/hdc'" when i ask xfce to mount the disc in the drive? there's an entry in /etc/fstab for the drive.. a manual mount via bash works [02:11] (debian unstable for years - ubuntu for 5 mins) [02:14] ah, ok, xubuntu made assumptions and added udf,iso9660 to my fstab... replacing with auto fixed it === rob [i=rob@freenode/staff/rob] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.252.103] has joined #xubuntu [02:16] was that a common question and noone was interested or is xubuntu not actively maintained? [02:18] hugely confidence inspiring :) [02:20] doh [02:21] D: === Commander-Crowe [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.252.103] has joined #xubuntu === AnythingJ [n=dan@c-75-72-152-172.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:33] I am having a bit of trouble getting my Bekin wireless card to work. All of the online howto's I have found says this card should work out of the box, and I should just be able see the card in system -> Network Settings... but it is not there... could that be because I did install xubuntu with the wireless card in? I just recently purchased the card? though the howto was directed towards ubuntu users, not xubuntu [02:34] AnythingJ, I'm not quite sure. [02:34] You might wait for Maxamillion to show up. He has tons of experience with Wireless. [02:34] Did you see the wireless docs in !wireless ? [02:35] !wireless? [02:35] Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi === DannyBhoy [n=name@125.212.82.164] has joined #xubuntu [02:38] !wireles [02:38] Sorry, I don't know anything about wireles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [02:38] lol [02:38] !wireless [02:38] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [02:38] ya... all of the docs start with already having the wireless card show up in Network settings [02:38] which my card currently is not doing [02:39] Hmm.. [02:40] when I was using ndiswrapper I could use ndiswrapper to tell me when the card was plugged in or when it wasn't, so I don't think the port is bad or anything like that [02:40] is there any way to run the internet configure again that runs when xubuntu installs? [02:44] ya... to ath0 device [02:44] no ath0 device* === calamari [n=calamari@ip72-200-73-175.tc.ph.cox.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:44] hi [02:45] booted off the live/install cd and there were no panels (had to start xfce4-panel from a terminal), is this normal? [02:46] Shouldn't think so. [02:46] yeah.. was weird that's why I'm asking :) [02:46] this is an old computer.. maybe something is failing [02:47] I'm not sure what would cause that... you could try running a memtest... at least to eliminate you memory being bad from the possible issues [02:48] yeah [02:49] decided to try it once more and just try to install this time.. if it crashes again, then that's a good test to run [02:49] has it done the panel thing more than once? you should try booting it up a second time if you haven't [02:49] Panels occasionally disappearing is a fairly common issue. I wouldn't worry about it. [02:49] it takes about 15-20 mins to get booted up hehe [02:49] You shoulda got the alternate CD :P [02:50] does it come with more packages? [02:50] this is true... if your goal is to install xubuntu, the alternative cd would be good for you... I did an entirely text based install on the 500Mhz lappy I am chatting from using the alternative cd [02:50] Not that I'm aware of. It just has a text-based installer which can be much easier than waiting for the LiveCD to boot. [02:50] worked well... no 15-20min boot [02:50] oic [02:51] I did the Alternate Install on all 3 of my Xubuntu computers :) [02:54] aha.. saw the panels for a sec then they blinked off.. oh well, installing anyways :) [02:55] how do you run fsck manually to repair a corrupt superblock? === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #xubuntu [02:57] DrX0: If you do shutdown -F, it'll force fsck to run on reboot. === rikai_ [n=rikai@unaffiliated/rikai] has joined #xubuntu [02:58] I'm in some mode that says it ignores shutdown, I can only do a Ctrl-D shutdown [02:58] afk === Commander|away [n=thomas@unaffiliated/Commander-Crowe] has joined #xubuntu [03:00] oh man heroes is on tv [03:00] gotta run === MagicFab [n=magicfab@ubuntu/member/magicfab] has joined #xubuntu === Commander|away is now known as Commander-Crowe [03:02] PuMpErNiCkLe, it looks like it's shutting down, but it doesn't run the fsck and it comes right back to the login prompt === sc0tt_ [n=sc0tt@cpc1-stok5-0-0-cust513.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:06] DrX0: I'd run it from a livecd, then. [03:12] PuMpErNiCkLe, and then what? [03:14] I was able to run fsck, but it didn't fix anything. [03:18] PuMpErNiCkLe, also fsck reports trouble on a volume that my Linux was never on (it got created AFTER Linux was running) [03:19] You'd need to tell it to repair it instead of just diagnosing it. [03:19] For e2fsck, I think it's the -p option. === linux__ [n=linux@adsl-70-241-11-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:20] anyone know how to make services, such as proftpd, which are already startable by /etc/init.d/proftpd start start automatically === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.252.103] has joined #xubuntu [03:21] PuMpErNiCkLe, I'm using Reiser, is that safe? [03:22] i think any journaling formatting is safe [03:22] ext2 is best for performance because it doesn't journal [03:24] yeah, it says that's for ext2 [03:25] DrX0, do you know how to auto-start services on xubuntu? [03:26] no [03:26] no harm asking :) [03:29] For reiserfs, reiserfsck --rebuild-sb rebuilds the superblock. === linux__ [n=linux@adsl-70-241-11-206.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:30] PuMpErNiCkLe, so reiserfsck --rebuild-sb /dev/sda [03:31] Yeah. Check the man page to make sure that's the best option, though. [03:31] PuMpErNiCkLe, it didn't give me an error, but it didn't say much either [03:32] PuMpErNiCkLe, it ran, but I'm still down, no gui, maintenance mode only [03:34] You didn't run that on a mounted drive, did you? === spasticteapot [n=ben@ppp-70-226-162-184.dsl.mdsnwi.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:36] PuMpErNiCkLe, I think it fails if the drive is mounted, anyway, I'm no worse off but my system is hosed. [03:36] Hello! === priidu [n=Priit@58.246.252.103] has joined #xubuntu [03:37] hey spasticteapot [03:37] how are you doing today? [03:37] I'm currently in a bit of a pickle - I need to get a computer with a wireless card to share internet with a bunch of other windows and linux machines over a wired network. [03:37] Linux_: Incompetent as ever. [03:37] Does this thing have a repair mode or do I need to reinstall Linux and start over? [03:37] Linux_: I tried Zenwalk. Liked the speed, did not like how it was incompatible with everything. [03:38] Why is Xubuntu so @#$@#$@ slow? I've got a 1ghz Pentium-M! (1.5ghz P4 equivalent. Mostly.) [03:38] Perhaps it's a RAM issue? 512mb should be enough for Firefox and Abiword. [03:38] DrX0: It wouldn't necessarily fail. It should definitely warn, though. [03:38] What output did it give? [03:38] It's not slow for me and I'm on a 850MHz P3 with 256mb RAM [03:38] use the dillo browser [03:39] it will increase your overall speed when using it [03:39] Hee hee, dillo <3 [03:39] Anyways, I'm working for a non-profit student group...and I need to get the confounded thing to share internet. [03:39] Linux_: Tabs or death! [03:39] I think it's a RAM issue. [03:39] fsck failed for at least one file system (but it's not the one with Linux on it) [03:39] That, or the battery manager is hoovering up my RAM. I'm using a version that's a few weeks old - I need to download a new ISO. [03:40] Or would I gain the same benifits by updating? [03:40] Sorry for the dumb questions...I'm starting to lose my mind. [03:40] Linux_: Help? Please? [03:41] which issue you need help on, xubuntu going too slow or sharing internet [03:42] Help sharing internet is the big one. [03:42] I'd also like to use it as a file server. [03:42] ok, you need a proxy if you want to share the internet [03:42] In other words, generic Linux computer uses. (At least I'm not asking for much.) [03:42] or give everyone an SSH [03:42] Durr..... [03:43] How do I do that? [03:43] i would use tinyproxy, its the easiest program to setup to share internet [03:43] sudo apt-get install tinyproxy [03:43] Neato. [03:43] yep, i can put my config file on my website so you can take a look at it if you want === Jester45 [n=Jester45@72-161-60-19.dyn.centurytel.net] has joined #xubuntu === priit_ [n=Priit@58.246.240.57] has joined #xubuntu [03:44] https://portunknown.servehttp.com:445/tinyproxy.conf.txt [03:45] Could'nt find tinyproxy. [03:45] let me take a look, one min [03:45] Where do I find the sources list, again? [03:45] its there in the apt-get [03:45] make sure you enable universal packages [03:45] Where's the sources list? [03:46] sudo nano /etc/sources.list i think [03:46] that will let you edit it, press ctrl+O to save and ctrl+x to exit [03:46] I'll probably reinstall the entire system, that's okay. But, one question for the group: if I care about reliability and speedy automated recovery more than speed, more than anything else, should I use ext2, ext3 or Reiser? [03:47] not ext2, either ext3 or reiser, more programs support recovering data from ext2 or resier, so reiser [03:47] and it journals too [03:48] Tinyproxy not found. [03:48] sorry, the sources.list was found /etc/apt/sources.list [03:48] let me see if i can find a .deb you can download [03:48] Yah...I remembered. [03:48] some people say the repair tools aren't as good, is that true? [03:48] haven't gotten one to work [03:48] (I mean, I'm not a big fan of them right now, that's for sure) [03:48] As a side note, can anyone reccomend a trick to decrease RAM usage? [03:48] I'm looking at almost 300mb with nothing other than a terminal running. [03:49] Something's feeshy. [03:49] Should I just download the latest ISO? [03:49] http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/ServerGuide for install instructions on tinyproxy [03:49] i thik you need to enable universe packages to find it using sudo apt-get install command [03:49] I did. [03:50] tinyproxy is on SF.net [03:50] Is there a difference between the latest version of the Ubuntu ISO and any version of Edgy Eft if all packages are updated? [03:50] Huh. [03:50] Aah...apt-get update. [03:50] lol [03:50] yep [03:50] sudo apt-get update [03:50] then sudo apt-get upgrade [03:50] Lets' hope it will connect. [03:51] why isn't there a website to download all the .deb found in apt-get? [03:52] There is - archive.ubuntu.com. There's also packages.ubuntu.com, if you want package descriptions and dependency lists. [03:52]