=== majoridiot [n=majoridi@74-141-134-199.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === nnnnnnnn [n=nate@74.197.31.27] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["n8] === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === fxfitz [n=fxfitz@pool-72-90-12-189.atclnj.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [01:13] Hey everyone! I have updates to install on Ubuntu, but it doesn't seem like it can connect to Mythbuntu's sservers. Any ideas? === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242437234.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-mythtv ["Leaving."] === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === jumpkick [n=GED@bas2-toronto47-1242436850.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [04:51] It's a shame the install shits out half way because mirror.cs.umn.edu is down. Never found out if it would actually do the tuners and LIRC... :( [04:54] yep, i'm waiting on the servers to come back too [04:54] been putting off this media center build for a while.. i pick the weekend these repos are down :-P [04:56] I didn't think you needed an internet connection to install [04:56] tgm4883_laptop: you do if you have an nvidia card [04:56] ah [04:57] it's a long weekend in Canada, so I was hoping to get this done quick... guess I'll have to put it off till next weekend [04:57] yea [04:57] i assumed it was the nvidia driver that required a download [04:58] billbrasky: yeah nvidia restricted driver is in the repo [04:59] thats interesting, I why its not on the CD? [04:59] need it for video acceleration, and if you select it while the repos are down the installer pops up an error message saying repo is not available and it will try its best to continue to install, then it locks X [05:00] you can boot the resulting install, but myth isn't configured, tuner drivers aren't loaded, lirc doesn't work... basically half of the install didn't go [05:00] and of course video is not accelerated which sucks ass [05:03] the servers should be back soon, hopefully [05:03] ok, g'night === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-253.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:17] does anyone here have access to the webserver? === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:27] I dont think so foxbuntu [07:29] arg, stupid STB software updates [07:29] there goes my backend uptime === donovangn [n=donovang@c-75-72-242-125.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:34] almost 23 days without needing a reboot :( [07:34] tgm4883_laptop, yeah..figured there wasn't and superm1 is out in the woods or something [07:35] the webserver is down [07:35] we put a call to imbrandon, but I guess he didn't answer [07:35] oh [07:35] I guess his personal site is down too [07:35] uh oh [07:35] so who knows what the problem is [07:35] that sounds like bad news for us [07:36] it does sound like bad news. [07:36] I wonder if the place imbrandon was 'hosting' them from knew about it [07:36] im pretty sure they did [07:37] i sure hope so...otherwise we might be looking for a new host [07:37] i think it was a huge server farm that he had a machine in there [07:37] yeah I heard that [07:37] in either case, we should have a mirror for if this happens [07:37] indeed [07:38] I know a great hosting service...but its a paid thing [07:38] do you know how much bandwidth the site uses in a month? [07:38] idk [07:39] what host you talking about? === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-253.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:39] but the hosting service I am thinking of allows 2TB a month if i remember correctly [07:40] the bad news is that some people are having trouble installing mythbuntu because of it [07:41] oh no [07:41] the repo's were on there too? [07:41] yea [07:42] crap....I didnt know that [07:43] sites been down since yesterday [07:44] yea,,,I noticed but I hadn't been able to get ahold of superm1 [07:45] the scary thing about imbrandon being unreachable and the site going down on a Friday is that imbrandon might have been 'released' from his employer [07:45] lets hope not [07:46] yea...no crap [07:46] :( 22:45:12 up 4 min, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.14, 0.07 [07:46] lol...your backend? [07:46] yea [07:46] just had to reboot it [07:46] stupid cable company [07:47] lol [07:47] what happened with the cable that made you reboot? [07:47] they sent a software update that rebooted my STB [07:47] and when my STB reboots, it jumps nodes [07:48] yuk...thats gay [07:48] mine doesnt do that [07:48] actually, a reboot wont fix that either, it needs a shutdown [07:48] although the last time they sent a software update one of my STB boxes died [07:48] thats no deal [07:49] WTF [07:49] which reminds me...one of them is dead right now [07:49] ?? [07:49] is launchpad down too? [07:49] wow [07:50] thats wild [07:50] wtf is going on [07:50] I checked a few hours ago and they were updating and now this [07:50] lol [07:51] crap [07:51] now my virtual machine is dead...I tried loading the current build from disk into a VM before I found out the repos are dead too [07:52] man what a night [07:53] just f'in figures [07:53] my good car got egg'd by some punk kids Thursday night [07:54] $1500 in damage to the paint [07:54] that sucks === tgm4883_laptop hates vandels [07:54] I pretty much went off the handle on that one [07:55] and by nice car...I mean its my 2003 Lexus IS 300 [07:55] not my 1985 Chevy Pickup [07:55] damn kids === foxbuntu [n=nick@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === foxxbuntu [n=nfoxqci@12-216-24-171.client.mchsi.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === DaveMorris [n=dave@host-212-158-244-26.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === Nixus_Maximus [n=Simon@pD9EA64A0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === donovangn [n=donovang@c-75-72-242-125.hsd1.mn.comcast.net] has left #ubuntu-mythtv [] === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [06:59] anyone have any updates on mythbuntu.org ? [07:01] looks like http://mirror.cs.umn.edu is back tho [07:01] this is good [07:07] superm1 is back, too [07:13] anyone know the correct codec location for mplayer ? === billbrasky [n=billbras@71.239.170.218] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === superm1 [n=malimonc@ubuntu/member/superm1] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [07:56] foxbuntu, foxxbuntu foxxxbuntu there? [07:58] hey superm1 [07:58] hey tgm4883 [07:58] how was the weekend? [07:58] well we got rained in, so "interesting" [07:58] waking up this morning [07:59] ah [07:59] the tent was kinda floating on water and mud [07:59] doesn't sound like much fun [07:59] well most of yesterday we played RISK [07:59] great game [07:59] my first time playing [07:59] i made the mistake of starting with ASIA [07:59] similiar here then, not much fu [08:00] ended up in second though (of 5 of us) [08:00] oh yea, dont start with asia [08:00] australaia or south america [08:00] haha well i was told that i made the best go that the guys i played with ever saw starting with asia [08:00] i held it all the way up until the last 3 turns [08:01] nice [08:01] too many attack points in asia [08:01] well see the thing is i made a peace treaty with america's edge and australia [08:01] so i only had to hold up across the european front and part of africa [08:02] and then when i was strong enough, overtook australia by surprise [08:02] good call, australia is good to have [08:02] yea held that until the last bout out [08:02] i always take australia first and work my way out. That or south america [08:03] did australia have 1 or 2 attack points? [08:03] well i think if i play with a new group of people i can easily pull off another start in asia, but since these people saw how that played out, i dont think they'd let me do this again [08:03] 1 [08:03] ah, good board [08:03] is there boards with 2? [08:04] theres a new board with more links between south america-australai, another link between north america and europe, and they add hawaii and link it to japan [08:05] oh wow [08:05] that would really mix things up [08:05] hey do i need to have an opengpg key for my chroot? [08:06] if your going to sign the packages yes [08:06] yea, it does. It takes some of the power away from australia [08:06] you can make it in a normal feisty account, and then copy to the chroot's /root [08:06] for such a small country, it has lots of power [08:07] can i use my already made key on this computer in feisty to gutsy chroot? [08:07] yes [08:07] sweet [08:08] i don't suppose you know whats going on with the site and imbrandon? [08:08] we've kinda been in the dark [08:08] see the advantage of having asia, is that i appeared to be such a small threat, everyone else duked it out with their battles with 40 or 50 men, while i just built up territory cards here and there waiting to drop them in [08:08] i heard about it on friday being down before i left [08:08] so i called imbrandon [08:09] and he was aware of it and working on it [08:09] ah [08:09] thats good to know [08:09] but my phone went dead (not to mention i didnt have reception) [08:09] so i didn't hear back from him even if he tried to call [08:09] it appears that other hosted projects of his are down too [08:09] ubuntu studio [08:09] is [08:09] yea we say his personal site was down too [08:09] ubuntu wire is [08:10] yea imbrandon.com is [08:10] so its not just us [08:10] yea once we noticed that we were starting to get worried [08:10] and considering he isn't on irc, i'm assuming he is normally on irssi on one of his hosted boxes via ssh [08:11] well i know we had tornado watches in effect this weekend by where we were camping (a little north west of des moines), so it's possible similar things were happening in missouri [08:11] superm1: what's needed to get weekly builds of the svn packages? what were our plans? [08:12] laga, well once you've got the green light on that packaging, we need a debconf warning at the start of the install of mythtv-common [08:12] saying these are experimental blah blah [08:12] make sure to back up your database [08:12] arg, wheres the gpg key stored? [08:12] ~/.gpg i think [08:13] i hope not, cause then I will feel stupid [08:13] laga, then we can add those weekly builds to mythbuntu.org [08:13] ~/.gnupg [08:13] just copy the whole directory over === tgm4883 feels stupid [08:13] superm1: k [08:14] its already there [08:14] tgm4883, clear out the one in the chroot and copy yours from the home directory [08:14] so you copy your private key [08:14] but my home directory in the chroot is just linked to my home directory [08:15] could that be the problem? Thats how it is setup [08:15] oh that's weird [08:15] it is? [08:15] i think [08:15] I followed the guide [08:15] well maybe its not [08:17] I get this gpg: skipped "tgm4883 ": secret key not available [08:18] well for now, just build it without signing then [08:18] debuild -uc -us [08:18] ok will do === talaren [n=patrick@ip72-213-145-156.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh [n=claydoh@66-252-55-253.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [08:51] any requests for the next unofficial plugin I should do? [08:51] i'm starting to wonder if some of these plugins even work anymore [08:53] tgm4883, which one did you do? [08:54] working on the recording extender, but some of these haven't been updated in years [08:58] theres only a few that appeal to me, so I would like to know what appeals to others [09:02] MRE, MythBurn (Discontinued for mytharchive, but allowed burning from mythweb), mythcollaboritive (command line only), mythcalandar (site hacked cant download, hasn't been updated since 04), mythappletrailers === pteague [n=patrick@ip72-213-145-156.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === kikko_ [n=kikko@customer-215.159.livas.lv] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [09:26] whoops tgm4883 didn't see you responded [09:26] well mythburn i'd say no [09:26] thats ok, im used to talking to myself [09:26] because it is discountinued [09:26] tgm4883: you wrote mythburn? [09:26] tgm4883, put my name in there so the channel beeps at me :) [09:27] out of the ones I listed, MRE looks ok, mythappletrailers needs some extra work for the package [09:27] laga, no, just looking at packaging [09:27] ah [09:27] unofficial plugins [09:27] mmaybe mythstream? [09:27] or that mythapplytrailer thingy [09:27] myth stream would make sense [09:27] i'm wondering if i should shove eskil's shoutcast patch in my trunk packages [09:27] it's abit unstable, still [09:28] laga, shoutcast support in mythmusic? [09:28] oh yea, mythstream looks good [09:28] it will need some work to make it apply cleanly to mythweb i'd expect [09:29] but if you get it to work properly, that'd be awesome [09:29] mythstream? [09:29] superm1: yes. [09:30] superm1: mythstream or mythstreamtv? [09:30] oh didnt realize there was a difference [09:30] i guess i'm thinking of mythstreamtv? [09:30] yes [09:30] the one that sets up an on the fly transcoder [09:30] for mythweb [09:30] TVWish looks pretty cool, if it had frontend intergration [09:30] superm1: such a thing is already in svn trunk [09:30] laga, that's right [09:30] with the gpl flash player [09:31] laga, any words on the re-encoding though for it since it needed a special ffmpeg [09:31] superm1: it's currently dpeending ffmpeg.. if there'll be now transcoding support in the backend, it'll get dropped for the release [09:31] superm1: "special ffmpeg"? just ffmpeg with mp3 support ;) [09:31] great [09:31] well special in the sense not standard ubuntu [09:31] haha [09:31] :) [09:31] Might be slightly offtopiv, but has anyone had experience with anything Geode GXLV based? What is it able to do media-wise? (233Mhz chip) [09:31] I like the concept behind mythappletrailers, but I think it should be a part of mythmovies [09:32] kikko_, is there any sort of hardware mpeg2 or mpeg4 decoder / accelerator on that box? [09:33] i would think that it may* be able to play dvd resolution stuff [09:33] superm1, no, a thin client [09:33] tgm4883: how does it work right now? [09:34] but this is only based on me vaguely remembering the windows recommended specs for dvd playback [09:34] laga, mythappletrailers or mythmovies? [09:34] kikko_, i would imagine it wouldn't be able to handle much - but u'd have to experiment with one. [09:35] hmm, that's why I'm asking, I want it primarily to make noise 24/7, but if is capable of video It would be a nice bonus [09:35] tgm4883: mythapplethingamajic [09:35] kikko_, to make noise 24/7? [09:35] superm1, music i assume [09:35] music :] [09:35] hehe [09:35] i was gonna say: most htpc's people want quiet... [09:36] :] [09:36] laga http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Myth_Apple_Trailers [09:36] looks like it streams from apple servers [09:36] tgm4883, appears that way to me too [09:36] it just runs a cron job to update the links every 24 hours [09:37] tgm4883: does it create regular menu entries? not too stupid [09:37] it would be nice if mythmovies would show trailers for the movies it lists [09:37] hum [09:37] $player_exec_cmd = '/usr/bin/mplayer -fs -zoom -quiet -user-agent NSPlayer -cache 8192'; //mplayer command [09:37] ^^ this should be mythtv :) [09:37] it could be changed in the XML code pretty easy [09:37] it can be changed in the settings [09:38] i'll try it on my s100 now [09:38] I could move the menu item from info center to media pretty easy [09:38] any takers? [09:38] :) [09:39] see, im not really sure how to package that either [09:41] not a big deal really the way i see it...its just a simple patch that needs to be packaged....much like the lirc-generator superm1 and I ddi [09:41] How realistic is smooth video playback across a network, using the thin client only as an X server? [09:41] did* [09:41] same with mythwebrss [09:41] the thin client would still need to be able to play the video [09:42] you mean video bandwith? [09:42] i mean if you can't locally play a video file thats 720x480, your not going to be able to do that over the network [09:43] it still depends on your system specs, your not offloading anything on the host computer [09:44] the best thing to do would be to test it out. If it is something your watching on ebay, then if you want it to play video I would pass [09:45] meh, I guess I'll try, I listen to music way more anyway :] [09:47] tgm4883, you have peaked my intrest in the mythappletrailers [09:47] foxbuntu, good to know, i'll let you look at that then while im working on packaging mythstream [09:47] I am gonna play with it and see about moving the menu item into the logical spot of media library and then try to package it [09:47] foxbuntu: i have already instaalled it :) [09:47] foxbuntu: yes, please package it. [09:47] how well does it work? [09:48] dunno [09:48] i have ywet to try it [09:48] let's see [09:48] can you set the option from the frontend? [09:48] foxbuntu, if your going to start looking into packaging, i'll have to get you pointed here: [09:48] !packagingguide | foxbuntu [09:48] foxbuntu: The packaging guide is at http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/index.html - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/New for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources - See also !backports [09:48] as well as [09:48] !revu | foxbuntu [09:48] foxbuntu: REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU [09:49] and since it's an unofficial plugin, we should form a special elite team [09:49] I think we need uniforms [09:50] yea...the "Nerd Herd" lol [09:50] and everyone uses black or silver for their uniforms [09:50] im leaning toward powder blue [09:50] superm1, thanks...I will make sure to go through those while I work on this (my first) package [09:51] tgm4883, if you come up with one let me know... [09:51] in the mean time...I need artwork help [09:51] :) [09:51] foxbuntu, i'll give it a look over once you've got things up [09:51] it works great. [09:51] yay [09:51] superm1, sounds good [09:51] and give you pointers on what needs to be done to conform to policy [09:51] laga, can you adjust the options in the frontend for it? [09:51] otherwise it defaults to SD [09:52] i just need to set up lirc for mplayer :( [09:52] tgm4883: no you can't. you could do that via debconf.. [09:52] k [09:52] alright...well I gtg for now...i am headed out to my folks place for a while..gonna take the lappy with though..I want to see about getting this packaged... [09:53] superm1, is there a way to skip the package download part of the mythbuntu install without it crashing? [09:53] foxbuntu, dont have a web connection [09:53] plugged in [09:53] and it will skip it [09:53] ok [09:53] on alpha 3 at least [09:53] crap [09:54] Im not sure if I can find my alpha 3 cd [09:54] well you can still download one from the mirror [09:54] although the one i have says alpha 2...I have a feeling its that pre-release dl you sent me [09:54] on polorix.net [09:54] well its alpha 3 exactly [09:54] that supports it [09:54] the prerelease stuff does not [09:54] it was a very last minute thing [09:55] oh [09:55] you got a link on the mirror to grab that disk? [09:55] http://mirror.polorix.net/index.php?dir=Mythbuntu [09:56] superm1, thanks...I will catch you later...might need a little php help to update this patch for the apple thing [09:56] later [09:56] cya === claydoh_ [n=claydoh@66-252-49-78.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:22] !ubotu [10:22] I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots === Hugolp [n=jo@217.168.3.246] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [10:55] superm1: what do you think about having a *real* log file for mythfrontend? that'd be very useful to for bug reports, too === tgm4883 just learned he sucks at packaging [11:20] superm1, 2 questions. 1. Is it better to package from scratch or repackage from debian or does it matter === ompaul [n=ompaul@freenode/staff/gnewsense.ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv === claydoh__ [n=claydoh@66-252-50-151.dyn-adsl.midmaine.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:36] superm1, msg me when you return. === imbrandon [n=brandon@ubuntu/member/pdpc.active.imbrandon] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:48] tgm4883: whatever works for you ;) [11:48] what are you trying to package? [11:48] mythstream [11:48] i found it packaged for debian by andrew pollack [11:49] you can certainly re-use an existing debian package [11:49] definently going to do that, having trouble packaging it from scratch [11:51] do you want help?` [11:51] that would be awesome [11:51] :) [11:51] ok, can you point me to said debian package? [11:52] i got the debian package from here http://www.andrew.net.au/~apollock/mythstream/ although I haven't checked debian repos [11:52] it won't be there [11:53] mythtv is not in the debian repos [11:53] ah === foxbuntu [n=nick@65-101-169-213.desm.qwest.net] has joined #ubuntu-mythtv [11:53] lets see, i ran this and it seemed to work and sign dpkg-buildpackage -S -rfakeroot [11:54] hum [11:54] yeah, this is the most recent version of mythstream already [11:54] yep [11:55] i have the dsc file that I made [11:55] but when I do sudo pbuilder build ../*.dsc i get many errors [11:55] what errors? [11:56] Err http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/main x11-common 1:7.2-3ubuntu4 [11:56] 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.31 80] [11:56] and a lot more for different packages [11:56] oh [11:56] tgm4883: you need to run pbuilder update [11:56] ah [11:56] sec [11:56] gutsy is still a moving target. packages get removed often [11:57] hum [11:57] ok, i won't try to use mythstream with svn trunk, seems like too much work.. ah well.. maybe.. [11:58] my bad, i thought i was all updated because i did an apt-get upgrade in my chroot. Forgot about pbuilder [11:58] mythstream supports podcast and video streaming. hum. [11:59] foxbuntu, how goes the mythappletrailer packaging? [12:00] tgm4883: i'd suggest that you adjust the build-depends in debian/control. we're now using "libmyth-dev" instead of "libmyth-0.20-dev" [12:01] i'll change it [12:01] or you could use both, like "libmyth-dev | libmyth-0.20-dev" AFAIK [12:01] i do get this note when running pbuilder on it [12:01] Note, selecting libmyth-dev instead of libmyth-0.20-dev [12:02] tgm4883: yes, apt-cache show libmyth-dev will tell ya why: [12:02] Provides: libmyth-0.20-dev [12:02] Depends: libmyth-0.20 (= svn200708004-14140-0.0ubuntu0), libqt3c102-mt-dev | libqt3-mt-dev [12:02] Conflicts: libmyth-0.20-dev [12:03] hum [12:03] it builds fine with svn trunk [12:04] ok, i think it built [12:05] ok, i attempted to build the binary package, but cant find it [12:05] heh [12:05] i feel dumb [12:05] lol [12:05] /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [12:05] it works fine here. [12:06] ya, well.. except for a segfault when exiting ;) [12:06] there it is!!! [12:07] eh [12:07] can i build a 32 bit binary on a 64-bit chroot? [12:08] i doubt it [12:08] :( [12:09] no testing for tgm4883 [12:09] um [12:09] why not? [12:09] i don't have a 64-bit gutsy mythtv install [12:10] why did you build it in a 64 bit chroot then? [12:11] good question [12:11] all my boxes are 64-bit [12:11] i don't remember seeing a setting for that in the chroot guide, but im probably wrong [12:13] i'll just make a vmware-player mythbuntu 64-bit install [12:14] so once im done with this, what do I need to give whoever is building it for the repos? all the .dsc? [12:15] hum [12:15] dsc, diff.gz, orig.tar.gz.. let superm1 decide that ;) [12:15]