[01:10] well its an turion 3600 wuith 1GB RAM [01:10] and ATI 128MB x700 [01:10] Jester45: ya i gotta check out my processors too... [01:11] like at my school we set up central water cooling and the teacher let me over clock a p3 to 2ghz [01:11] but i could under clock to 100mhz [01:12] Jester45: what does that mean 'overclock'? [01:12] means you make a processor faster than it is stock [01:12] Jester45, yet, i just think there is something wrong going on with my setup [01:12] it can't be that slow [01:13] gotta go outside for a smoke, brb [01:22] god, i hope my friend can deal with this xubuntu. she was really scared to let me dump w98 off it. lol. [01:23] too late now anyways [01:28] Jester45: are there any xfce chatrooms to help my friend if she has questions about using the spreadsheet and office programs on x? [01:28] here #xfce or the #name of the program [01:29] like #abiword [01:29] they should have rooms [01:29] kool [01:30] is all freenode pretty much edu type rooms? [01:30] no === kosch [n=kosch@unaffiliated/kosch] has joined #xubuntu [01:30] i forgot how to command a list of rooms on a server [01:30] but i would say help channels would be a better description [01:31] anybody know the input to get a list of rooms? [01:32] /list [01:32] it will be in the freenode tab if you are using xchat [01:32] that's it? just /list? [01:32] yep [01:32] ok [01:32] no space infront of it [01:32] i just did it so it wouldnt send it as a command [01:33] at 42 percent software installed [01:33] i can do it right in this textarea? and it will read out to only me? [01:35] yep [01:35] nother question, while everyones bein so chatty... this is 7,04 x. so if we keep up with updates, will this machine be 7.10 when it comes out? or is it another process? [01:36] tried, said list server load temp too heavy try again in awhile === zials [n=zials@74.12.179.214] has joined #xubuntu [01:38] at 57%, preparing zenity [01:39] i is itchy waitin for x === Pumpernickel [n=Pumperni@about/essy/bacon/PuMpErNiCkLe] has joined #xubuntu [01:40] anybody have an answer about updates? if you keep up with them does your system automagically progress to next version? === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96E0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === bigfuzzyjesus_ [n=bigfuzzy@unaffiliated/bigfuzzyjesus] has joined #xubuntu === tuna-fish [n=tuna@tunamasiina.kortex.jyu.fi] has joined #xubuntu === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@ubuntu/member/tonyyarusso] has joined #xubuntu === homa_rano [i=eric@18.238.4.232] has joined #xubuntu === reaVer [n=reaver@banzai.speedxs.nl] has joined #xubuntu === eteran [i=etefreen@xtremesexy.de] has joined #xubuntu === Laibsch [n=Laibsch@p54B96E0F.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] mikubuntu: hi, no you won't go to the next version, but you will get all of the bug fixes. === neozen [n=neozen@c-71-228-16-126.hsd1.il.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [01:50] docs-rool: so how do you get to the next version? new install? [01:51] mikubuntu: it is possible to use updates to go to the next version, though. you have to do a special kind of update, though. [01:51] let me show you. [01:51] ok === docs-rool *goes to look* === mikubuntu can' === Catoptromancy_ [n=cat@fl-71-1-235-150.dhcp.embarqhsd.net] has joined #xubuntu === mikubuntu can't see docs-rool anymore [01:51] http://tinyurl.com/3d4kkg [01:52] thanks, doc, i go look [01:52] you can't skip multiple versions at a time, but otherwise upgrading is ok. [01:53] so you couldn't go straight from 6.06 to 7.04. [01:53] you would have to go to 6.10 in between. [01:54] kool, i saved the page for the inevitability [01:55] installation85 percent complete [01:58] ok. :) [01:58] you did back up your info first, right? =) [01:59] no, nothing on it to backup, we bought this last month for her, and i told her not to save anything on it till we dumped w98 [02:00] i don't know how to backup yet anyways; one of those little things i need to learn [02:00] ah, ok. [02:00] well, it's just a matter of copying data to a different drive, or else burning it to a CD. [02:00] (or DVD) [02:00] we do taxi service, and she does billing for accounts [02:01] i din't know how to select files for burning, and i got impatient to make the switch so i just did it. lost lots of personal files, but nothing i can't live without [02:02] i DO need to learn to backup [02:02] at 97% and 'cleaning up' ... my x is almost ready [02:06] omg. installing grub boot loader. had problems at this point on a previous installation. crossing my fingers. === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu [02:07] says 'restarting system' [02:07] ok. good luck. :) [02:08] omg. it seems stuck. do i have to change the boot order, i guess? [02:08] ok to power down? [02:09] it's not DOING ANYTHING [02:09] please tell me last three hours not in vain [02:09] lol [02:11] ok, fixed BIOS; starting up .... === LikeVinyl is now known as ] -[eavy [02:14] passed security, desktop up ... YES!!!! thanks guys for help. [02:15] where do i go to set screen resolutions? looks real sloppy ... [02:18] Applications > Settings > Display settings === ] -[eavy is now known as RaXr [02:19] cripes, gotta run pick someone up... arrrrgggghhhh be back later === RaXr is now known as LikeVinyl === aaron_ [n=aaron@74-130-83-206.dhcp.insightbb.com] has joined #xubuntu [02:35] anyone here? [02:36] in my XFCE windows, i have a mysterious little "o" in the top left corner next to the programs icon... anyone know what that is or how to get rid of it? [02:38] it sticks the window to all desktops [02:40] goto menu -> settings -> window manager settings-> bottom part is 2 boxes drag the icon from the top to the botttom [02:41] ah. brilliant. thanks [02:41] welcome [02:41] i'm really diggin xfce [02:42] i am to [02:47] it's the best! [02:50] nice. i didn't notice it had built in composting now === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-206-1.static.adam.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [03:01] hey there, I installed Stellarium, but on starting it up, the program is basically unusable because there is no writing, just a series of dashes and dots, where the writing would normally be, can anyone help? I've uninstalled and reinstalled, same problem [03:06] bug 33988 [03:06] Launchpad bug 33988 in stellarium "Strange characters in v.0.7.1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33988 [03:08] why it happens on glxinfo: http://www.pastebin.ca/672776 === mikubuntu [n=chatzill@c-76-108-241-11.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:12] ok [03:12] shall i just give it a miss [03:12] help, guys... who's here ... got x loaded on the laptop but screen resolution is terrible... went to settings and the highest res in the lineup of choices is 800 x 600, but i know the res is cabable of better ... the xubuntu splashscreen is much clearer, but when i get to the desktop, omg is bad... === Laibsc1 [n=Laibsch@p54B970E4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:13] like forget about his program [03:15] i got a terminal open. can someone help me get this resolution right before i give my friends computer back to her and she commits homicide upon my self [03:15] lol [03:16] mikubuntu: Make sure /etc/X11/xorg.conf is set up properly - e.g, having the right resolutions listed, the right default, and, if necessary, the right horizsync and vertrefresh numbers. [03:17] Pumpernickel: uuuuh, that's ez for you to say :) [03:17] can you translate it to chimpanzee for me [03:18] i need a banana, it's gnna be a long nite === homebrewcider [n=mal001@219-90-206-1.static.adam.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] === retour [n=ret@adsl-70-228-111-72.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:25] mikubuntu: There's a file, at /etc/X11/xorg.conf, which holds the configuration for your display. [03:25] In this file, there's a Section "Screen", and a Subsection "Display". [03:25] In that subsection, you'll find listed the resolutions that it can use. [03:26] Check those, and fix it if the one(s) you want aren't there. [03:26] Hi all! To fully use potential of Mplayer is it enough to install it from repositories ar I have to also manually install codecs packs? [03:26] Pumpernickel: where would those files *prolly* be? [03:26] mikubuntu: There's just the one file. [03:26] /etc/X11/xorg.conf [03:27] Pumpernickel: i see the name of it, i just don't know where to look for it on the computer [03:27] retour: Just mplayer should be fine. [03:27] mikubuntu: That is the location. [03:27] The filename is 'xorg.conf', and it's located in /etc/X11/. [03:28] Pumpernickel: to me :) that is the name, where it is that i can find it would be the location [03:28] i don't see it on the desktop [03:29] Pumpernickel: well... its not playing most of the media formats. Same videos in wmv etc formats that I've played under different distro with manually installed Mplayer + codecs packs from their website. I can do it again but What folder U/Xubuntu is using to store codecs? [03:30] i ran the sudo command that uboto gave me above and now i have a black screen that has the last line: running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local) [03:30] mikubuntu: R U playing pranks here with this kinda question? [03:30] don't know how to get off this screen [03:31] i'm not talking about the machine i am on, i have another one right beside it thats the problem [03:32] mikubuntu: use midnight commander to go through and edit files (F4) etc. Open konsole and type mc if its installed U R in business if not follow help instruction === illu45 [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu [03:34] retour: i don't know if i have midnite commander, but i do have terminal, of course ... isn't konsole a kde terminal? [03:35] open whatever konsole and type mc [03:37] retour: Are you referring to the w32codecs? [03:37] why it happens on glxinfo: http://www.pastebin.ca/672776 [03:38] retour: complete nongeek here, can you be more elementary? [03:38] Pumpernickel: To be sure I have everything possible I would like to install manuallu full codecs pack BUT dont know what folder should I use to unpack the to. Ubuntu in places differs from other distros [03:40] retour: i have a terminal open again now [03:40] xjkx: strange message, what machine is generating this? notebook, brand name desktop custom build pc? what video card? [03:40] retour: There are packages for these things - I'm just trying to make sure I'm pointing you at the right ones. ARE you referring to the w32codecs, or did you have something else in mind? [03:40] retour: I use a sis740, Xorg has "sis" in driver, and its my desktop machine [03:41] win32codecs probably libdvdcss etc [03:42] those codecs help, but i dont know why i cant play the videos on globo.com [03:42] mikubuntu: I'm already elementary. What happens when you open console, type mc and mash Enter? [03:42] !w32codecs [03:42] I actually can, but the sounds is messed up [03:42] Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages, including the win32 codecs: see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - See also !Codecs [03:42] Thank you! [03:42] np [03:44] what happens when you try to play this http://video.globo.com/Videos/Player/Entretenimento/0,,GIM719598-7822-MEDICO+PSIQUIATRA+ADAIL+IVAN+DE+LEMOS+FALA+SOBRE+OS+DIFERENTES+TIPOS+DE+DOR,00.html [03:44] ok, that was elem. says: the program 'mc' not installed. can install by ... make sure you have the universe component enable [03:45] gotta pick mom up around the corner, be back in 10 min [03:47] retour: could you please check out [03:53] xjkx: i'm dealing with my trouble right now - please try to google for it - its very hardware specific [03:54] retour: how do i make sure that 'universe' is enabled? [03:54] to then install mc [03:54] ok [03:55] Pumpernickel: can u tell me how to make sure that universe is enabled? === Random832 [n=random@c-69-136-185-145.hsd1.in.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:56] is there a tray battery meter? [03:56] for xfce [03:56] [wait, i'm an idiot - i assumed since it was in the tray in gnome - nm, found the panel one] [03:56] xjkx: I've opened your URL but its not my language and of course I cant play it Configuracia Minima etc hehe [03:58] mikubuntu: Applications/System/Software Sources [03:58] retour: this is a brand new install of x 704, would it be enabled by default? [03:58] never mind, i go to software sources and check === HiuCD [n=hiu@pc-235-97-120-200.cm.vtr.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:02] ok, universe is enabled as default apparently [04:02] retour: couldn't find package mc [04:03] i did sudo apt-get install mc [04:06] retour: is there another way to get mc? [04:08] i go have a smoke, brb [04:11] is there an on-screen display for volume? [04:12] is there an xkb settings program [like gnome has, for setting level 3 shift, caps lock vs control, etc] [04:18] please can someone help me fix my screen resolution settings? [04:20] mikubuntu: Synaptic Package Manager -> MC= Midnight Commander [04:23] retour: ok, i try snaptic === vidd [n=vidd@207-172-178-217.c3-0.tlg-ubr6.atw-tlg.pa.cable.rcn.com] has joined #xubuntu [04:25] who owns jester-log ? [04:26] me [04:26] is he ok? 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[09:15] Well, the problem is that in order to type in inverted commas (") (') or tilde (~), [09:15] I have to [09:15] press the button [09:15] then press [Space] [09:15] otherwise I would just end up with a letter with an accent. [09:15] like [09:16] I know It has something to do with the keyboard layout [09:16] but I have no idea which one to use [09:19] Ed933, Look up what "nodeadkeys" means ;) === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.153.111] has joined #xubuntu === rokra [n=christor@ANancy-153-1-19-7.w83-196.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #xubuntu === senat0r [n=dario@p5494DD47.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu === Pablo_ [n=Pablo@1e.71.d1c4.cidr.airmail.net] has joined #xubuntu === hammy [n=hammy@cpe-76-83-119-79.bak.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu [09:36] can anyone help me install nic driver [09:37] hello? === Ed934 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #xubuntu [09:37] where is xorg.conf? [09:38] noob 2 xubuntu... could really use help === Ed934 [n=edward@c211-30-95-218.carlnfd4.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has left #xubuntu [] [09:41] #ubuntu === hammy [n=hammy@cpe-76-83-119-79.bak.res.rr.com] has joined #xubuntu === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.153.111] has joined #xubuntu === wobbler [n=ubuntu@202.134.248.211] has joined #xubuntu === warbler [n=cry@202.134.248.211] has joined #xubuntu [10:24] hello - does this mean that no-one has any problems with xubuntu - what a great recommendation! [10:25] hehe, either that or NA is supposed to be asleep, and Europe just waking up. [10:26] :P === hhlp [n=hhlp@194.Red-83-42-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === wobbler [n=ubuntu@202.134.248.211] has left #xubuntu ["Ex-Chat"] [10:30] good morning to all :) [10:31] yawn :P morning [10:31] (and yes, everything works flawless :D) === xork [n=xor@cpe-66-68-129-167.austin.res.rr.com] has left #xubuntu [] [10:32] well, aren't you the lucky one :) [10:33] :P [10:33] well, i just ignored that playback of any audiofiles is broken on my second workstation [10:33] it helps :P [10:36] with my hands over my eyes I see nothing wrong on my box... === hhlp [n=hhlp@194.Red-83-42-241.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === boogie [n=boogie@p548A36FC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #xubuntu === hhlp [n=hhlp@30.Red-83-41-242.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === totalwormface is now known as totalwormache === mecannotread [n=josef@124.81.153.111] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] === LikeVinyl [n=likeviny@OL212-29.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === Coder` [n=test@202.133.77.39] has joined #xubuntu === Coder` [n=test@202.133.77.39] has left #xubuntu [] === _aussieman [n=bobo@185.Red-88-26-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #xubuntu === dewp [n=mrjonaz@BAEffc3.bae.pppool.de] has joined #xubuntu [01:02] hey guys [01:02] i'm experiencing a strange error when starting x with recent nvidia drivers: this nvidia driver component has version 100.14.11 but the nvidia kernel module's version does not match [01:09] how did you install [01:09] and you could install a newer module [01:17] no, the module was compiled during the installation === aguitel [n=aguitel@118-87-235-201.fibertel.com.ar] has joined #xubuntu === predaeus [n=predaeus@chello212186005030.401.14.vie.surfer.at] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [02:36] !nvidia [02:36] To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto [02:42] i used envy, worked fine :) === PriceChild [n=pricechi@ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.PriceChild] has joined #xubuntu === AL89 [n=alex@p54B2D41D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #xubuntu [03:09] do you use vdr? === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === rici [n=rici@201.230.9.111] has joined #xubuntu === chrisjw [n=porsche@unaffiliated/chrisjw] has joined #xubuntu === chrisjw [n=porsche@unaffiliated/chrisjw] has left #xubuntu [] === HelloMeow [n=michael@CPE0040f4207738-CM024330008929.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:46] Hello, I would like help installing a printer [03:47] I have never done so on a linux OS === Arsanerit [n=Gerrit@unaffiliated/gerrit] has joined #xubuntu === cheeseboy [n=greg@24-107-235-119.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com] has joined #xubuntu [03:58] i have set up internet connection sharing between this box and my xbox and most things seem to work it grabs the news fine from xbox-scene.com and gets the weather from weather,com but when i try to watch videos using TVLinks script i get connection reset by peer. [03:58] how do i fix it? === Arsanerit [n=Gerrit@unaffiliated/gerrit] has left #xubuntu [] === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === pcfascist [n=pcfascis@74-33-84-241.dr01.jrdn.mn.frontiernet.net] has joined #xubuntu === mikubuntu [n=chatzill@c-76-108-252-28.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu === vistakiller [n=spiros@ppp173-39.adsl.forthnet.gr] has joined #xubuntu [04:17] g'morning mates. i'm looking in the add/remove apps in xubuntu for some kind of wizard to help me get a wireless connection established ... i see knetattach, would that be the one? will i be able to enable something off this list of apps without a connection? cause i can't get wired connection established on it either .... === HelloMeow [n=michael@CPE0040f4207738-CM024330008929.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has left #xubuntu [] [04:19] nope, can't be installed on this computer type, its saying ... arrrrggggghhhhhh [04:23] i helped my friend get xub installed and running on a desktop about two weeks ago, and it detected the wireless device immediately, but i don't remember the details of how we got about to it. any connection experts around? === elbing [n=elbing@183.Red-81-44-215.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [04:26] mikubuntu, wifi setup might be the same in xubuntu and ubuntu, go ask in #ubuntu too, theres more people hanging around there. === joakim [n=Leho@80-235-63-168-dsl.trt.estpak.ee] has joined #xubuntu [04:29] xubuntu has the stuff you need to enable networking [04:29] !wifi | mikubuntu [04:29] mikubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [04:30] hmmz [04:30] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [04:32] predaeus: and kekk: thank you, will check [04:40] guys, how bout a wire connection that utilizes a belkin ether 2 usb adapter into the laptop coming from a router? === sparrw [n=kvirc@71.16.203.242] has joined #xubuntu [04:43] this thing is an animal. 6 hours yesterday/last nite, and now here i am again ... arrrrrggggghhhhh === thingy [n=opera@87.127.188.33] has joined #xubuntu === maxamillion [n=adam@ngl-1-14.shsu.edu] has joined #xubuntu === zials [n=zials@bas3-windsor12-1177961843.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #xubuntu [05:01] mikubuntu: there are lots of recommendations on the net for not using USB to connect. There may be something in the forums but .... [05:07] warbler: i know, but since this uses an adapter from ethernet i assumed that it made it more comatible === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:08] my friends xubuntu detected her wireless usb device without any probs, but i just purchased one yesterday, and it's not doing the job, either... i wonder if the specific model i'm using no good, and the one she has more compatible? [05:09] kikubuntu: it is the linux os that doesn't like the USB interface - I don't know why - I had to buy a 4 port router because the ethernet died on my original [05:09] 8mikubuntu [05:09] warbler: i just don't have an etho in on that laptop [05:13] mikubuntu: there is hope - the forums talk about support for certain usb interfaces - lots of reading coming up I guess... :) === Ch0Hag [n=mking@knight.monnsta.net] has joined #Xubuntu [05:14] Ooh what a guess. [05:14] So. [05:14] Should xubuntu-* depend on gnome-session? [05:15] trying to do a manual configuration for eth0 interface it asks for ip address, subnet mask, and gateway address. i know my ip address, but how do i find out the subnet and gateway? [05:16] netmask is most likely 255.255.255.0, gateway could be anything. [05:16] The network administrator will know. [05:16] If that's you .... well then you have to guess. [05:17] or go to the router page [05:17] you mean like the cable provider? [05:17] Probably. Don't they do DHCP? [05:18] my gateway is one less than my ip address [05:18] it's on the router page [05:20] If you can get to the router page (presumabely web page) then you know your gateway IP. [05:21] ChOHag: the x in xubuntu is to show that it runs xfce - ubuntu runs gnome - kubuntu runs kde [05:21] nope, just got off the line with them (cable) she said that my subnet mask and gateway come from computer manufacturer. i don't believe that. [05:21] that's ridiculous [05:21] warbler: Yes, so why does installing xubuntu-* result in gnome-session getting installed? [05:22] mikubuntu: That's tech support speak for "I don't understand your question so go ask somebody else and stop bothering me." [05:22] mikubuntu: try 255.255.255.0 for the netmask - and take one of your ip address for the gateway [05:22] mikubuntu: is your ip address a private one or an internet addressable one...what are the first two blocks in x.x.x.x ? [05:22] mikubuntu: have you tried just enabling dhcp? [05:23] ChOHag: one moment and I will look... [05:23] rici: ya, don't work [05:23] thingy: checking [05:23] 76.108. [05:24] thingy: 76.108. [05:24] mikubuntu: thats an internet addressable address...so are you using cable or dsl? [05:24] thingy: cable === m0u5e [n=denniska@c-24-6-100-103.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #xubuntu [05:24] cable modem [05:24] mikubuntu: is the cable box only got one port you can plug in your computer into? [05:26] mikubuntu: most probably, the cable box is going to assign the 76.108.x.x ip to itself and nat anything behind it...so it will be providing you with a ip via DHCP. Can I ask why your configuring an ip manually? [05:26] has one ether and one usb; i have the ether running to a wireless router, and two wired lines out, one to this laptop, and one to that one that i'm trying to config. but that one doesn't have an ethernet in, so i have an ether2usb adapter ... [05:27] i bought a usb wireless receiver yesterday, but x doesn't detect it on either machine [05:28] mikubuntu: well your wireless router will definitely be giving out a dhcp ip address in this case. [05:28] thingy: It could be bridging the wireless and ethernet. [05:28] mikubuntu: specify the make and model of the ethernet to usb adapter and i'll see if there is a site that shows how to set it up [05:30] belkin cardbus network card 10/100bt 32bit cardbus [05:31] oh, wait, thats *not* a ether2usb, then, is it? still wont work though [05:32] ChOHag: at the bottom of applications it tells about xfce - don't know why gnome & kde sessions are there... [05:33] F5D5010 Belkin, sorry [05:34] thingy: it ws in the fine print :( [05:34] *gnome & kde services [05:35] applications? [05:35] Where? [05:35] brb, gonna look something up [05:40] thingy: heres the product page, but i don't see anything on it that helps me... http://www.belkin.com/support/article/?lid=en&pid=F5D5010&aid=4400&scid=0 === warbler [n=cry@202.134.248.211] has left #xubuntu ["See] [05:41] mikubuntu: that card works under linux and so can you tell me whether you powered up your laptop with the card in it or did you insert it in afterwards? [05:48] inserted afterwards [05:48] thingy: inserted afterwards [05:50] thingy: uh, so i have to power down? [05:50] mikubuntu: please reboot the laptop with the card in it and tell me if it works? [05:50] thingy: me dumdum... ok === wobbler [n=ubuntu@202.134.248.211] has joined #xubuntu [05:51] thingy: restarting, it's a little slow === warbler [n=cry@202.134.248.211] has joined #xubuntu [05:53] thingy: had to re-restart, wasn't rebooting [05:53] thingy: now it is, but ever so slow [05:54] mikubuntu: running on batteries? if so plug the mains in [05:54] thingy: no its plugged [05:55] mikubuntu: pluggin the card in shouldnt slow down the laptop in anyway [05:56] thingy: no, it's just a slow old dell cpi, desktop up now [05:56] mikubuntu: can load up a terminal and type in sudo ifconfig [05:56] and tell me what interface you have other than lo [05:58] thingy: ummmm, got some output, about 7 lines, not sure what im looking for [05:59] thingy: that whole section i guess is under 'lo' [05:59] mikubuntu: on the left it will show you the interface name, i.e. eth0 or lo or ra0 etc ah...in that case it didn't find the card [06:00] mikubuntu: can copy the /vag/log/messages file from the machine and pastebin or e-mail it? [06:00] thingy: no, doesn't say etho anywhere, only 'lo' === wbadger [n=wbadger@bzq-88-152-131-253.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:01] thingy: i could open it (if i can find it) and type it into this computer if it's not too much text , should i do that? [06:02] where do i go, to 'filesystem'? [06:03] thingy: did you mean 'var'? or 'vag'? only see a 'var' folder === wobbler [n=ubuntu@202.134.248.211] has left #xubuntu ["Leaving"] [06:03] mikubuntu: the file is /var/log/messages and I need to see what happens when your insert/remove the card...ok you can do the following and visually tell me what happens. 1. take out the card. 2. open a terminal and type in "tail -f /var/log/messages" 3. press enter a couple of times to put some space between the last message and the bottom of the screen. 4. insert the card and tell me what you can see on the screen then [06:04] thingy: ok, hold on [06:04] mikubuntu: for number 4 i only need to know what new messages pop up and not whats already on the screen [06:06] mikubuntu: if its more than 3 lines worth of stuff then don't type it in here..type it in a editor and then copy/paste into http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org, telling me what the url is === The_Kernel [n=thomas@dialup-4.246.221.54.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:06] ok, gotta bunch of output then some free lines at bottom, gonna insert card now === _aussieman [n=bobo@185.Red-88-26-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:08] k, saying carbus inserted, pci: enabling device, pci interrupt, etho: realtek rtl8139 at 0x... is the short version [06:09] mikubuntu: eh! its saying eth0 so are you sure sudo ifconfig doesn't show eth0 ? [06:09] im sure it wasn't there before, should i enter sudo ifconfig again? in same term? [06:11] ok but can I have the long version in a pastebin...is a pain but it helps me understand what is going on [06:11] yes, but i will have to type it all, so if you have the time, i have the will [06:12] lol umm ok before you that then...lets see what ifconfig says first [06:13] lemme open a tomboy ... oops. well, i don't have a command prompt, so sudo din't do anything === _aussieman [n=bobo@185.Red-88-26-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:13] how do i get command prompt ready again? [06:13] ctrl - c [06:13] k [06:14] nop, still only 'lo' [06:14] not lol :( [06:14] mikubuntu: ok can you type in sudo ifconfig eth0 up please [06:16] ok, typed sudo ifconfig eth0 up and nothing, then sudo ifconfig eth0 and i get: === illu45` [n=illusha@p-dynamic-border5-21.xDSL-1mm.sentex.ca] has joined #xubuntu === rag [n=rag@58.Red-80-24-33.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:21] eth0: link encap:Ethernet Hwaddr 00.30.BD:6E:DA:0C up broadcast running muliticast mtu:1500, metric:1, rx packets:13, errors:0,droppd:0, overruns:0, fram:0, tx packets:0, errors:0 droppd:0, overruns:0, carrier:0, collisions:0, txqueuelen:1000, rx bytes:4306 (4.2 BiB) tx bytes:0 (0.0 b), interrupt:11 base address:0x8000 [06:21] mikubuntu: ok thats good [06:21] it is? :) [06:22] mikubuntu: can you tell me if the file /etc/network/interfaces has the lines auto eth0iface eth0 inet dhcp in it somewhere? [06:22] k, lemme go see [06:23] mikubuntu: yes, the card is detected and has been given its own mac address (HWaddr) and you are getting packets recieved into it (rx) [06:24] open with mousepad, abi, or other? [06:24] mousepad is fine [06:24] k [06:25] no, i don't see that in there [06:25] not much in it do you want me to copy here? [06:25] mikubuntu: are you sure? nothing that says auto eth0? [06:26] does it say auto lo [06:26] ? [06:27] this file describes. blablabla ... the loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback; iface eth0 inet static, address: 76.108.252.28 etc... [06:28] mikubuntu: looks like youve tried to set the ip adress manually via the gui utils...is that correct? [06:29] thingy: yes [06:29] mikubuntu: in any case...backup the file...by doing a cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.original and then edit the file so that it looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35410/ [06:30] omg, i don't know if that's within my skillset :) ... how do i do the cp....etc? [06:30] cp meaning command prompt? [06:30] mikubuntu: type in "sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.original" in a terminal window [06:31] ok [06:31] do i leave mousepad open? [06:31] mikubuntu: then you need to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file as the root user...try typing in sudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces [06:31] no close mousepad [06:32] maybe i should change my nick to miknobuntu === kosch [n=kosch@unaffiliated/kosch] has joined #xubuntu [06:34] warning: i am using the root account [06:34] thats fine [06:34] ok, lemme go look at the pastebin now? [06:37] thingy: so that stuff i had in there from the manual config, just backspace it out and add the lines at the end of your pastebin? do they have to be line for line character for character identical? [06:38] mikubuntu: i would just delete the current contents of the file in mousepad and copy and paste everything in the pastebin... [06:40] well, i can't copy and past, i have to type it in to mousepad, remember? no connection :) ... it all looks identical until the last part where in my existing file is the static address and all, and ini the pastebin file is the other [06:41] mikubuntu: ah sorry I forgot..yep go ahead and just change the last bits...the auto eth0 part and the iface eth0 part [06:41] warning: i am using the root account, and i have just broadcast my ip address to most of the industrialized world .. lol [06:41] eh? where does it say that? [06:42] no, i said it. just joshing [06:42] ah [06:42] k, lemme try this [06:44] thingy: i think i did it [06:44] hmm? [06:45] i mean i entered the new text, now do i have to save it somehow? [06:45] after typing the changes into the file, you need to save it and then type in sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [06:45] into a terminal [06:45] you mean i just 'save' into mousepad right where it's at? [06:46] with a file command? [06:47] mikubuntu: yes...just select file save [06:47] and then close mousepad and then in a terminal window type in sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart [06:47] ok, did that file save, now i go back to the terminal and do the sudo [06:48] yes [06:50] ok, last line of output is: ...bound to 192.168.0.101 -- renewal in 5334 seconds [06:50] but the 5334 isn't counting down [06:50] do you need to see ALL the output? [06:51] way to go miku [06:51] youre on the internet now [06:51] go browse the web [06:51] you think? [06:51] uh huh [06:51] are you pulling my legs? === LadyR [n=devi@adsl-072-151-089-199.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #xubuntu [06:51] i go check [06:51] umm i think its worked...its given you the ip address of 192.168.0.101 [06:52] starting firefox [06:53] omg. i'm on the World Wide Web! It's a miracle, it's ... overhyped. LOL. thanks thingy! [06:54] np [06:54] wanna help me get my screenres fixed now? :) [06:54] jajajajjajajajjajajaajajajajajajaajajjajajaajajajajaj..... like the black hole of technological needs. [06:55] gonna try sudo apt-get updates and see if it fixes screenres, this install just from yesterday [06:56] it prob. wont === LadyR is beating on her wireless. I'll take screenres issues. ;) [06:56] what you can do is pastebin the output of lspci so that we know what your graphics card is [06:57] ok, now i should be able to do that, let me open a term over there again [06:57] just lspci? no sudo? [06:59] ok sudo lspci will be fine [07:00] already got some output without sudo, is that ok? [07:00] just looking for the pastebin address just found it one min [07:02] yep it should be fine [07:02] http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/35415 [07:03] mama calling, brb [07:05] mikubuntu: umm what exactly is the screen res issue? [07:08] very poor resolution NOT 1024 [07:08] the splashscreen on bootup = very crisp, after that, downhill [07:09] mikubuntu: can you please pastebin the /etc/X11/xorg.conf + the /var/log/Xorg.0.log files [07:09] the sreenres was fine in win98 [07:09] ok lemme go find === MilhousePunkRock [n=MPR@dslb-088-070-001-050.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #xubuntu [07:12] Hello everyone! [07:13] hello [07:13] How crazy am to set up Xubuntu Feisty on a AMD K6-2 350 with 392 MB RAM, a 6 GB HDD and either an ATI Rage Pro or an S3 Trio 3D (I still need to find out which video card is better)? [07:14]