=== hggdh is now known as hggdh|away [11:15] is Ubuntu's "Add to Panel" dialogue customised from the Gnome version, or the same? === asac_ is now known as asac === asac_ is now known as asac === hggdh|away is now known as hggdh [17:14] I am not able to use flashdrive on my pc...I use Hardy plz help! [17:21] I am not able to use flashdrive on my pc...I use Hardy plz help! === asac_ is now known as asac [19:36] anyone know why a computer would have 'jerky' performance unless the mouse was being moved or glxgears was being run? [19:40] lots of I/O bound activity [19:41] something eating up a lot of memory, and causing stuff to swap [19:45] dobey, so why would moving the mouse or running glxgears actually help? [19:46] I could see it if the jerkiness was when glxgears was running, but not having it be smooth when I am running it... [19:51] what do you mean by "jerky" performance? [19:52] Well... the apps would take an odd time to launch... [19:52] but the most indicative thing was running System Monitor [19:53] the graphs would update in a jerky pattern instead of a smooth flow... [19:53] then when I would move the mouse... or if I ran glxgears the graphs would update smoothly as they do on my other systems [19:53] i don't know why that would be, no [19:54] ok... [19:54] unless tracker is indexing stuff, and moving the mouse, and glxgears, cause it to cease doing so until idle again [19:54] or something similar to that [19:54] that is where I got after 14.5 hours of trying to figure it out... [19:55] It was a fresh install... with the proprietary drivers loaded for Nvidia [19:55] and that was it... [20:13] Sounds like an interrupt problem. And/or ACPI. [20:15] johanbr, could be ACPI... on the interrupt... [20:15] or I meant [20:15] it was on an ASUS X83Vm-X1... [20:16] if it was ACPI... then moving the mouse and running glxgears basically forced it to not use power management? [20:16] that would link the two items together [20:51] PrivateVoid: maybe. You could try changing cpufreq governor. Or booting with "acpi=off". Or with "noapic nolapic". [20:54] that is an option... I this it might be he acpi -- apparently the bios on the machine doesn't handle it properly... from some posts I am finding [20:54] but for a laptop that kind of sucks [20:55] thanks for the advice johanbr [20:55] no problem [20:56] using acpi=off turns off power management right? [20:57] yes [20:58] That could possibly have consequences for thermal management, so make sure the laptop doesn't get too hot. [21:00] I guess I return this laptop... [21:01] I do not want to run Windows...... and Linux appears to be having issues on it... [21:01] http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11541 [21:01] that appears related... [21:01] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 11541 in MTTR "boot hang unless "mtrr=off", caused by commit b1f6278d77c1f2f669346fc2bb48012b5e9495a- Asus M51TR notebook" [High,New] [21:02] might be the bios ASUS is using... [21:03] thought that is a different model... it is logical that they are using similar bioses [21:04] According to one comment, booting with "noapic nolapic" works. [21:04] Sorry, I mean "nosmp nolapic". [21:10] yeah... [21:10] it does work... but the trade off is severe for a laptop [21:14] found this too johanbr - http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2008-11/msg04598.html [21:15] the N80Vm is basically the same machine too [21:15] I wouldn't despair too much. Did you try "noapic nolapic" ? [21:16] not yet [21:16] these are talking about booting issues... I am getting jerky performance... I guess they could be related. [21:19] Very likely. The issue seems to be that the machine has a buggy ACPI implementation. [21:24] I think it goes back tomorrow... [21:24] it is still within my 14 day return period [21:24] http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9050055&type=product&id=1218012612475 [21:25] sucks to give up an LED lit monitor and such great specs... (they are actually on sale for $794 right now) for that price... [21:25] but I will find a replacement johanbr -- any laptop recommendations? [21:26] I have a Dell laptop that I'm pretty happy with, and they're sold with ubuntu preinstalled. [21:27] My only complaint is that the backlight gave up a while ago, but that was covered by warranty. [21:27] you using the X3100 graphics or Nvidia? [21:30] Nvidia. Which I'm beginning to regret. [21:30] I don't need powerful graphics anyway, and the closed-source nvidia drivers sometimes have issues. [21:39] so... unplugging a vga cable from a dell netbook doesn't switch desktop orientation, resolution, etc [21:41] ibex [21:41] who do I work with to make it happen? [21:41] I'll take my answer off the air :) [21:48] johanbr: so use the open source drivers, and forgo fancy 3d bits for a while :) [21:52] night [22:02] dobey: I think nouveau is still a bit too bleeding-edge for my taste. [22:07] johanbr: i'm not talking about noveau [22:08] nv? last I tried, that didn't work with my card [22:08] yeah [22:08] oh