[00:00] i know what they were after, yes [00:00] [00:42:54] I don't like to be insulted, I just want my opinions respected [00:00] doesn't matter [00:00] [00:43:40] I'm sad that Ubuntu has turned into Arch [00:00] [00:44:01] bruce89: must you continue whining? [00:00] I don't think I'll bother with -offtopic anyway [00:00] (which really was a hint to !stop) [00:00] !stop [00:00] NOTICE - Please stop this discussion NOW. See !offtopic for things that are inappropriate to discuss in this channel. Continuing will result in action being taken. [00:02] you must understand it is hardly nice to be insulted and accused like that [00:03] we're running in circles here. [00:03] if in a bunch of days you feel like you'd like to join #ubuntu-offtopic again, please give us a ping here. [00:03] shouldn't have thought so [00:07] bruce89: if right now you don't have any further questions for this channel, please part and come back later when you do [00:07] lovely [00:09] @mark #ubuntu-ops bruce89 Way too argumentative for my liking. I had noticed that during the past days in #ubuntu-offtopic, too. He'll be unbanned when he shows he'll play by the rules no matter how "upset" he may be about anything. [00:09] The operation succeeded. [00:16] In #ubuntu-offtopic, rww said: !LjL is has factoid [00:28] the cake is not a lie! [00:28] I haz caek. [00:33] There is no spoon... [00:33] err... cake [00:49] LjL: cinnamon roll [00:50] Flannel: wait, what? [00:50] LjL: in #u, you've got a cinnamon roll [00:50] oh right [01:25] yay, watchbot got its first real hit [01:42] Apparently ops know all of the answers [01:43] Flannel: how can you get to know all the answers? [01:43] LjL, watchbot? [01:43] LjL: I don't know when Ubuntu is going to have ipod support. [01:43] elky: yeah, extension to floodbots that ended up being its own bot. you can join ##ljl and post any dodgy link to try it. [01:43] er, iphone support, even. [01:46] are you using the wikileaks watch lists? :P [01:46] ikonia, you were referring to zenitur I am guessing [01:46] elky: nope, opendns.com... besides, how could you even *know* about the wikileaks list? i thought that was a $11000 fine for you to know about it :P [01:50] eventy hundred dollars? [01:51] Flannel: that's what i read (not really for knowing about it, but for linking to it - or any other site blacklisted by the oz firewall) [02:35] * [breakmyfall] (i=breakmyf@5.dollar.sucky.sucky.at.shellium.org): BreakMyFaLL okay? [02:36] bazhang: there's quite a few users from shellium lately [02:36] LjL, ahem the bit preceding shellium I meant (since we had kavity get a vhost for much less) [02:37] bazhang: i dunno, i'm not the one to be fascist about hostnames (although i'll certainly keep a special eyes on vhosts like those) [02:38] :0 [02:39] bazhang: it's just a hostname, in theory it's not even you deciding it. although of course it is in case of shell vhosts. [02:39] LjL, good point [02:39] I was agnostic on kavity tbh [02:39] he was arguing about cursing in -ot and then we noticed it [02:43] bazhang: i won't really hide the fact that i'm not quite in agreement with some ops over extremely strict usermask policing. (such as banning "jesus", meh.) [02:43] * [Netham46] (n=ubuntu@unaffiliated/netham45): purple trolling? [02:43] netham reminds me of something [02:43] justin__: I personally avoid Linux like a plague for my web servers, they're all IIS. I moved from Linux a couple years ago, and I've had no issues since. :) [02:46] bazhang: uhm, he's been a long-time user, he doesn't "seem" like a troll from skimming the logs [02:46] or - perhaps he does seem like one. subtly though. [02:48] he said he is rebooting, yet only left #ubuntu (ie still on freenode) [02:49] bazhang: he's got Netham45 in ##windows, too, although i wasn't on ##windows [02:51] LjL, just the 'oh usb-creator is broken, no wonder I dont use linux, windows server is great, etc' [02:52] seems like a load of fud to me [02:52] so cross-trolling, uhm [02:52] still on freenode (ie not rebooted) [02:52] shades of slayer [02:54] bazhang: i left a @mark about him. what about shades of slayer, is that some reference to shadeslayer...? [02:54] LjL, yeah, subtle (or notso at times) trolling [02:54] suddenly his gnome and cdrom is fixed miraculously at the last moment [02:55] after literally days of 'it must be hal' it not mounting in kde [03:18] bazhang et al: i'm going to bed, if watchbot starts behaving very badly for any reason, just ban [03:18] LjL: sounds good. [03:18] LjL, okay (in #ubuntu) [03:21] musikgoat|main called the ops in #ubuntu (Germanaz0) [05:22] mr spammer is back as daemonfc again [05:23] elky: where? [05:24] -ot [05:24] oh [05:27] yeah, you're the smart one who steers clear of there [05:27] tonyyarusso, ^^ [05:28] heh [05:31] Wth is the purpose of Watchbot? [05:47] n2diy called the ops in #ubuntu () [05:48] taken care of [08:05] In ubottu, rww said: !no, lfs is LFS is Linux From Scratch, a Linux distribution (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/), not to be confused with !LTS which stands for "Long Term Support". [08:05] !lfs [08:05] LFS is linux from scratch www.linuxfromscratch.org; not to be confused with LTS which is the long term support version of ubuntu (6.06 and 8.04) [08:44] don't see the point of that factoid [08:45] * jussi01 waves sleepily to ikonia [08:45] * jussi01 is somewhat hungover... [08:45] join the club [08:46] I'm about to go and get my car from the gargage and pickup a new amp [08:46] just waiting for my lift to go and pick it up [08:47] I should clean today... lets see how that goes. [08:48] @bansearch BUGabundo [08:48] No matches found for bugabundo!n=bugabund@bl6-230-81.dsl.telepac.pt in any channel [08:48] ??? [08:49] ahhh right so he's ban dodging [08:49] where? [08:49] +1 [08:49] I banned him last night - had a discussion with him and told him the ban would be for the weekend due to his attitude in pm [08:49] so straight after I go go bed - he's back in on a new IP [08:49] @mark [08:49] (mark [] []) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if was kicked from with the comment , if is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, is only needed when send in /msg [08:51] @mark #ubuntu+1 bugabundo ban dodging as soon as my back was turned in +1 [08:51] The operation succeeded. [08:54] * jussi01 waves to Hobbsee!!! [08:54] it's Hobbsee [09:45] Hobbsee, !! [09:48] Hoooooobsee [10:18] *burp* [10:18] caek [10:20] * topyli joins ikonia's club [10:21] my club ? [10:23] the hangover club you founded with jussi01 [10:23] ahh [10:23] ikonia, you were referring to zenitur in -irc? [10:23] bazhang: yes [10:23] ikonia, just getting the lowdown now [10:23] wow, I just cleaned the fridge...bleh [10:23] nice [10:23] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596780/ [10:24] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/3372596788/ [10:24] the cake is still a lie... [10:24] :P [10:31] bazhang called the ops in #kubuntu (tarfart) [10:33] whoa [10:33] nice, chanserv got slow on me [10:34] panos4ever: do you understand why you were forwarded here? [10:34] panos4ever, never type that [10:34] ok [10:34] panos4ever, not even in anger or as a joke [10:34] yeah yeah [10:34] i know [10:34] panos4ever, new users might try to run it [10:34] :( [10:34] panos4ever: you know and you still did that [10:35] i didnt know that if i tell this like that [10:35] i would be banned [10:35] panos4ever: that is not the point [10:35] kkk [10:35] sorry [10:35] plz can u disban me? [10:35] panos4ever: the point is you possibly harm other users, that's the thing you should be worry [10:35] it was wrong [10:36] Never type that. [10:36] disban plz? [10:36] Tm_T: I got to run, feel free to sort this as you see fit [10:36] "plz" and "u" (: [10:36] jussi01: will do son [10:36] for me??? [10:37] I think he should have time to reflect on this [10:37] !coc | panos4ever [10:37] panos4ever: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [10:37] panos4ever: ok, heres the thing, please don't say anything that can be dangerous in that way in support channels, ever [10:37] !guidelines | panos4ever [10:37] panos4ever: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [10:37] read those panos4ever [10:38] ok i will be back [10:38] panos4ever: read those links and meet us when you have read them fully with thought [10:45] heya! [10:46] panos4ever, please dont idle here [10:46] i am here [10:46] !idle | panos4ever [10:46] panos4ever: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries. [10:47] panos4ever, please exit the channel [10:50] could someone take the forward off? [10:51] I would if I could [10:53] done [10:54] he just PM'ed me asking for all the links. No attitude just wanted the links. [10:55] should he come back in a couple of days? or longer [10:55] !coc > panos4ever [10:55] bah [10:55] he has them [10:55] bazhang: 24H. imho [10:55] I forget doing it like that makes ubotwo send them too [10:55] jussi01, okay [10:56] bazhang: its just he knew it was wrong, and got frustrated. needs to cool down. [10:57] jussi01, what he did was wrong; tarfart was really foul though (not a defense, but understandable that he would be upset) [10:57] and he was asked to stop with the language more than once [10:57] ie tarfart [10:59] ah tarfart is now in #ubuntu [11:01] BUGabundo, how may we help you [11:02] ikonia: ;) [11:02] he is ban dodging in #kubuntu [11:02] good morning [11:03] jussi01, tarfart [11:03] hi bazhang [11:03] I was brought here automaticly [11:03] I guess it was to do with ikonia ban on me [11:03] bazhang: I only kicked him. [11:03] jussi01, I see [11:03] he says I delebirate changed my IP to access #ubuntu+1 [11:03] watching though. [11:03] when I had no control of the router, where I was last night [11:03] he was really foul, and seemingly trolling [11:04] please visit the channel and ask further opionins [11:04] many others can see this a single side vision [11:04] BUGabundo, this was about advertising a channel iirc [11:04] I'll shut up now, and be availble to your questions [11:05] BUGabundo, so why not take a short while off (as he suggested the weekend) [11:05] bazhang: humm I did... I did not enter the # on purposed [11:05] BUGabundo, then we can put it behind us [11:05] pidgin as it set as autologin [11:05] for me its all good [11:06] I gave ikonia all the will he could [11:06] BUGabundo, see you after the weekend then [11:06] did not pursue anything on this mather anymore [11:07] hix the crack tool [11:07] :/ [11:08] BUGabundo, please part the channel and see you on Monday [12:08] heh [12:08] houston i got a problem [12:08] alteregoa, how may we help you [12:09] i added ushare [12:09] but this stuff scans the whole root [12:09] aprox 10tb, and that takes forever [12:09] alteregoa, this is not a support channel you realize [12:11] ah [12:11] #ubuntu for support [12:11] if i join ubuntu it forwarss me to this channel [12:11] #ubuntu #ubuntu-ops Forwarding to another channel [12:12] i try to log on another fn server [12:13] still the same [12:14] you are banned in #ubuntu and forwarded here [12:14] do you recall why you were banned? [12:14] yes [12:15] it was like 4 months ago [12:15] 10 days ago by the ban records [12:16] ok so i log in with my shell [12:16] alteregoa, ban evade? [12:16] i pasted a website containing a dude talking crap [12:17] that was harassing a few ppls [12:17] alteregoa, better to resolve this with the operator who banned you then ban evade [12:18] ban evasion is against freenode policy and could lead to you being banned from the server altogether [12:18] i don't remember the op, cause he klined me [12:18] alteregoa, klined? are you certain? [12:18] yes [12:19] alteregoa, then you should ask in #freenode and disconnect [12:19] ok i ask there [12:32] wow.... seems a lovely guy [12:33] ... [12:33] grumble... why doesnt this game in crossover detect I have the cd in :/ [12:35] which game jussi01 ? [12:36] heroes of might and magic 3... [12:36] :D [12:36] hehe [12:36] keep s telling me to put the cd in and restart the game... kinda annoying... [12:38] its rated as gold/platinum in the wine appdb [12:38] never had much luck with the free crossover, much better with wine tbh [12:38] eah, must be doing something worng. not sure what thogh... [12:39] wonder were it looks for the cd... [12:40] i have a real version of crossover, and if it works with wine, it should work with crossover [12:40] true; just had better luck with wine [12:40] the free version is the real version afaik [12:41] same problem with fallout 2 (cant find cd) [12:41] bazhang: "free" version? [12:41] jussi01, yep; they gave it away on one day only. [12:42] full unlocked version, free [12:42] ahh, yeah, thats the real version. but I wouldnt refer to it as the "free" version.... [12:42] you confuse people [12:45] s/people/person/ [12:45] :) [12:46] no, I meant people... ;) [12:47] legal, free, non-pirated version :) [12:47] it isnt a free version, its still being sold, and it was just given away for one day. [12:48] i downloaded crossover and office and the gaming thing that day too, but have yet to find use for them :) [12:48] heh [12:49] tarfart is mixing versions and installing via dpkg and claims he is in dependency hell [12:49] free software is enough so far :) [12:49] more expletives in #kubuntu [12:52] copying music to phone from a samba share over wifi over usb 1.0 is not very fast :( [12:52] usb 1.1, whatever [12:53] topyli: heheh...no [12:53] hrm wifi claims to be 18Mb/s though [12:53] the usb is probably the bottleneck [12:53] or the phone [12:55] well the samba server is a wippies router too with a usb drive. that's probably not the fastest possible server either [12:57] i have built the slowest possible system! [12:57] ugh [13:00] well i guess i could replace one of those links with infrared [13:39] BUGabundo, hi [13:39] BUGabundo, thought we agreed you would come back on Monday [13:39] pidgin auto login [13:40] once I started the laptop [13:40] to give my linux class [13:40] exiting now [13:40] bazhang: what did he do? i work closely with him so just wondering [13:40] BUGabundo's excuse of auto join does not cut it with me [13:41] he stayed in the channel for over 3 hours knowing he was banned [13:41] gnomefreak, advertised in a channel after being warned not to, then ban evaded to compound it [13:41] gnomefreak: are you referering to BUGabundo [13:41] ikonia: yes [13:41] ikonia, actually in this case I believe him [13:41] bazhang: thanks [13:41] bazhang why did he stay in the channel for 3 hours talking knowing he was banned [13:41] ikonia, ie the auto join [13:42] what channel? [13:42] ikonia, am referring to right now [13:42] #1 [13:42] gnomefreak: he keeps making little minor foul ups, which are fine, but when he is prodded about them he gets attitude and trys to argue [13:42] err + [13:42] gnomefreak: he also keeps advertising random links/talks/groups in channels [13:42] gnomefreak: and when he's asked to stop he plays dumb about it [13:43] :( thats not good [13:43] then tries to be clever [13:43] asking if I'm a bot etc etc [13:43] when he knows quite well I'm not [13:44] and as you can see - makes excuses for things [13:44] "my client is auto joinining" - then why did you stay in the channel for hours talking knowing you where banned [13:44] how did he get in under a ban? [13:45] bruce89's comments of a day ago make more sense in light of checking the ban tracker [13:45] I did it on IP as he sometimes uses _bugaundo or bugabundu_laptop [13:45] he changed his IP [13:45] which hasn't changed for 3 weeks [13:45] but on the night of the ban - changed magically 3 hours later [13:45] and his client auto joined on that same night 3 hours after I'd left [13:46] and he stayed talking [13:46] all a magical co-incidence [13:46] he's not dumb - he knows what he's doing [13:46] infact he's far from dumb [13:46] talk to him on Monday then [13:46] that would do it, well im still on the fence with that but he is a nice guy so i had to ask [13:47] gnomefreak: he's a great guy, and puts in a good ammount of effort in +1 [13:47] no argument there [13:48] i will talk to him most likely monday since im only here to fix one of my branches and do email, im sure asac will have other work for me [13:49] * Myrtti grunts at BUGabundo [13:50] Myrtti: a grunt [13:51] gnomefreak: it's nothing major, he just needs to stop arguing every point with pathetic detail [13:51] gnomefreak: the ban dodging has not impressed me though, as I said he's not dumb so he knows/knew what he was doing [13:52] im sure he did. but really wish he didnt [13:52] ikonia, gnomefreak: http://www.qaiku.com/home/myrtti/show/1de12eedce7b37412ee11deb88aab3274b6c4a1c4a1/ [13:52] Myrtti: thanks [13:55] i see pink ;) witha few turtles [13:57] gnomefreak: roll downwards to his comments [13:57] he's full of that [13:57] there's a strong dislike of him around [13:58] hob bs ee and I have some details, but in general... well. I think his attitude in life and people in general needs a bit of adjustment [13:58] that's something that we can't cure, but still [13:59] ok now that is not good [14:00] it's not the first time that [14:00] Myrtti: is qaiku lke twitter [14:01] ikonia: it's like Jaiku pre-GoogleAppengine [14:01] ikonia: identi.ca will kick ass with the next release of laconica [14:02] it'll have the same threaded conversations like Jaiku, brightkite, facebook and qaiku [14:03] well thst explains the bot question but not likley other things [14:04] gnomefreak: what explains the bot question ? [14:04] is the bot a she, I presume [14:04] ikonia: your away message [14:05] Myrtti: all bots are female [14:05] gnomefreak: I set that after his question [14:05] he joined in to -women last night because maco has been mentioning it on her blogpost [14:05] at least I think I did [14:05] he's creeping out maco as well [14:06] heh [14:06] I think I'll go and clean my car now its back from the garage and play with my new amp :) [14:06] clean cars are overrated [14:06] :) [14:06] ikonia: i dont have full logs of channel and god knows i dont want to see them after what i read on the link above. at least not today, it makes me want to do something bad ;) [14:08] gnomefreak: well don't - it will get sorted [14:08] popey: this thing needs a clean bad [14:08] he is not nearly bad as many many others [14:08] that are being given free pass after free pass ad infinitum [14:08] bazhang: i cringe when i see his email on ubuntu lists :( [14:09] hell i wold him sortly after i joined i wasnt there to help i was just wondering [14:09] wondering how confrontational he's going to be before I open the mail, I'm usually not surprised [14:09] popey, meet asustek and groovyorange then get back to me [14:09] not to mention shadeslayer [14:10] just because someone is more of an asshat than someone else, that doesn't diminish the asshatery of the first proponent [14:10] this is way beyond that [14:10] ok [14:11] bugabundo is a jerk and was wrong, no doubt [14:11] those others are serious menaces [14:11] agreed [14:11] i do need to get me one of those auto away for just PMs [14:12] I think two days is too short tbh [14:12] ie i k o n i a ' s ban [14:12] but asustek/etc and groovyorange need permabans [14:13] hes ok with waiting the 2 days [14:13] * gnomefreak never heard of them [14:13] count yourself fortunate then [14:13] * gnomefreak wonders why asac is in +1 he tries to avoid chanlles outside dev channels [14:14] spell sucks today [14:14] ing [14:15] how's watchbot doing? [14:16] grate! [14:16] gnomefreak: 13:21:42 < asac_the_2nd> anyone has font issues ;)? [14:16] 13:21:52 < asac_the_2nd> e.g. after recent upgrade [14:16] 13:21:57 < asac_the_2nd> if so, let me know! [14:16] ^^ thats why [14:17] ubuntu member operative gone bad [14:17] ban evasion! [14:17] any false positives at all with watchbot? if not, i think i can make it call real ops [14:18] LjL, none so far ^^ [14:19] uhm, i'm not so sure [14:19] [06:30] !fakeops | J-_ posted link to Photo sharing,Nudity site in #ubuntu-offtopic [14:19] is aspoor giving exceptionally poor advice? [14:19] [06:35] !fakeops | tonyyarusso posted link to Photo sharing,Nudity site in #ubuntu-offtopic [14:19] these don't look good [14:19] unless tony and j have gone bad too ;) [14:19] 'too' [14:19] :/ [14:19] like asac! [14:19] riight [14:23] popey: thanks, i know that issue all too well :) [14:23] :) [14:24] ditto, jaunty nearly poked my eyes out with the massive fonts today [14:27] popey: that was 3rd upload for it as i recall [14:29] that was PPA i think the 2 fixes were pushed to [14:29] ok, so, what i've done to watchbot now [14:29] 1) whitelist deviantart and imageshack [14:29] 2) not warn if a site is in the "photo sharing" category, even though it's in other "bad" categories [14:31] i don't have any. [14:31] not at all. [14:33] !ops [14:33] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [14:33] space_cadet called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [14:33] space_cadet: err, YES? [14:33] why [14:33] no, first question is mine [14:33] because someone was telling me to go somewhere else, when my problem is with ubuntu [14:33] why the HELL did you just call !ops? [14:33] not ubuntu+1 [14:34] because u banned me for NO reason [14:34] then you know what happens if a man makes mistakes? [14:34] they'll probably do them again. [14:34] loser. [14:34] make jrib run out of the channel, yeah, good way to remain in there for long. [14:34] handbags at dawn [14:40] Help [14:40] Please state the nature of the medical emergency. [14:41] Ljl has been abusing power [14:41] yes, you're being oppressed [14:41] space_cadet: what's the output of your "lsb_version -a"? [14:42] I am programmed for basic channel health maintenance and monitoring tasks. [14:42] lsb_release -a, even [14:42] not found [14:42] space_cadet: try lsb_release -a, i mixed commands up [14:43] Distributor ID: Ubuntu [14:43] Description: Ubuntu 8.10 [14:43] Release: 8.10 [14:43] Codename: intrepid [14:43] calling ops in the -ops channel is not a good way to gain credibility of being oppressed [14:43] i was explaining to scunizi that i HAD 9.04 on my machine before and there were problems between the nvidia drivers and the x [14:44] and was asking if the 180 drivers had the same problem [14:44] space_cadet: so jrib misunderstood you as using alpha when you were not? [14:44] yes [14:44] space_cadet: and how did you react? [14:44] and I was a little rude to him because he kept telling me to go to #ubuntu+1 [14:44] specifically, I told him to "butt out" [14:45] quite rude [14:45] in fact [14:45] you mean this [14:45] because he hadn't read the context of the conversation [14:45] [15:28:49] !jaunty | space_cadet [14:45] [15:28:49] space_cadet: Jaunty Jackalope is the codename for Ubuntu 9.04, due April 2009, Schedule in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule - Lots of breakage between now and April - Please join #ubuntu+1 for discussion and support. [14:45] [15:29:07] askthebot > jrib [14:45] and this [14:45] [15:29:35] space_cadet: jaunty help in #ubuntu+1, not here [14:45] [15:29:45] jrib butt out [14:45] ? [14:45] yes that. [14:46] and were those the only instances where jrib told you to go to #ubuntu+1? [14:46] it's interesting how they flame you for just mentioning 9x [14:46] but never get into trouble [14:46] its the wrong channel [14:46] they are not 'flaming you' [14:47] yes they are, because my issue at hand was not with 9.04 it is with 8.10 [14:47] so it is irrelevant [14:47] space_cadet, were those the only instances where jrib told you to go to #ubuntu+1? [14:47] yes [14:48] so in essence [14:48] he misunderstood you [14:48] and instead of explaining that to him [14:48] you first gave him an unwarranted !askthebot [14:48] and then told him to "butt out" in second instance [14:48] well, i need to be off right now, but i'm sure the other ops here can deal with the issue [14:50] might I present this [14:50] Because I know that when I was back in the dev chain and 9.04 installed automagically, i didn't have nvidia drivers because they conflicted with X... Has that problem been resolved? [14:50] <jrib> !jaunty | space_cadet [14:51] if anyone was following the conversation like jrib appeared to be, they would have understood the context that sentence was written in. [14:51] ^^ this was directly after scunizi told me to add the medibuntu repo's and install the 180 drivers for nvidia [14:52] space_cadet, I saw the whole thing live. no need for 'context' [14:52] space_cadet, you were unnecessarily rude. [14:52] in my defence so was jrib [14:52] space_cadet, not so. [14:53] space_cadet, the number of people talking about jaunty in the wrong channel these days is astounding. [14:53] with as many people on IRC there is bound to be misunderstandings since not everyone speaks english as a first language. but im not in this [14:53] all of us immediately suggest that channel. [14:53] exactly, [14:54] that's what's rude [14:54] not out of rudeness. [14:54] No. [14:54] it appears to be rude from my end, [14:54] that is why i responded the way I did [14:54] you are making this a big issue. [14:54] when it need not be. [14:55] you mention jaunty, you will get that link [14:55] that is the same for every_one. [14:55] if I am taking too much of your time, just tell me and I will leave, although i would like to resolve this, and will apologize to jrib [14:55] I understand I was rude [14:55] just to clarify, he was not rude. [14:55] we all do that to every one who mentions jaunty in the wrong channel. [14:56] practically half of what I say in #kubuntu and #ubuntu are that. [14:56] it is almost exactly one month from final release. [14:56] i agree, however, it may appear rude to someone that is not talking about jaunty per se, but just mentioning it because it relates. [14:56] but no, jrib was not being rude. [14:56] heh [14:56] i was [14:57] then you need to grow much thicker skin, because busy channels such as ubuntu, will all the crosstalk can lead to mis-understandings. [14:57] yes. [14:57] okay great [15:01] space_cadet, did you re join ubuntu? [15:04] yep. thx [15:04] and i apologized to jrib [15:04] * mneptok deactivates [15:04] okay then someone must have removed your ban. [15:04] just checking :) [15:05] umm ... [15:05] 10:35 -!- space_cadet [n=space_ca@71.238.149.33] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"] [15:05] no? [15:05] 10:41 -!- space_cadet [n=space_ca@c-98-209-16-81.hsd1.mi.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-ops [15:06] why the 2 different hostmasks? [15:06] umm... [15:06] ban evasion? [15:07] while in -ops [15:07] guilty. [15:08] i detect elevated stress levels. [15:08] not any more actually. [15:08] my quarrels have been resolved. [15:08] i was speaking for myself. ban evasion makes me really, really unhappy. [15:09] although if further action is needed, i will not evade again. [15:09] you will not evade again regardless of what is needed. [15:09] that's what I meant to say. [15:09] and yeah, THAT is unfriendly. jrib got nothin' on me. [15:10] well, do what you think is best. (not sarcasm) [15:11] all of us use Ubuntu IRC namespace solely at the discretion of the greater community. there are some soft rules about what topics get discussed in what channels. [15:11] there are some much, MUCH harder rules about ban evasion. [15:12] these things are not enforced at whim. they serve a purpose. and no one is above the rules simply because of how they feel at the time. [15:12] twice now you have shoved the rules aside due to personal exigency. that's some stellar community focus. [15:12] that though in your mind is all the action i am going to take. [15:13] *thought [15:14] is there a link somewhere to the full rules? [15:14] !coc [15:14] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [15:14] ty [15:14] i'd also like you to look at this channel log [15:14] (sorry for the mini-flood): [15:15] 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ [15:15] 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+b *!*@71.238.149.33] by LjL [15:15] 10:35 -!- space_cadet [n=space_ca@71.238.149.33] has left #ubuntu-ops [requested by LjL: "You should have known better, bye"] [15:15] 10:35 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [-o LjL] by LjL [15:15] 10:39 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [+o LjL] by ChanServ [15:15] 10:39 -!- mode/#ubuntu-ops [-b *!*@71.238.149.33] by LjL [15:16] so you see, your evasion wasn't even necessary. [15:16] lol [15:18] well again, ty 4 the info, [15:18] hopefully my 8.10 problem is resolved, [15:19] but I must reboot to find out.... (I also bookmarked the nfo u gave me) [15:19] i think that's the least of your issues with Ubuntu at this point. [15:19] i think the issues presented have nothing to do with ubuntu [15:19] they have to do with anger management [15:19] then you need to read the Code Of Conduct more carefully. [15:20] bookmarked it. will read it upon reboot. [15:20] Ubuntu ain't just ones and zeroes. [15:20] sorry for all the drama guys. [15:21] masterfully done good sir [15:21] dum dee dee [15:21] I had no idea what to do there. [15:23] i couldn't find my lighter, so ... [15:24] haha [15:58] wild [16:03] okay that was insane [16:38] #ot has a chance of going very very bad [16:43] I left for 5 minutes and that happens :/ [16:44] its all good im there and watching while i cant do much else at this time [16:44] ikanobbori may need a wake-up call [16:44] some very unpleasant language from him [16:46] i agree [16:46] i didnt see that part until i scrolled [16:58] go figure i stopped watching because they were being good than that happens. [16:59] its mostly just ikanobori [16:59] groovyorange and icebuntu/etc have stayed away [17:12] ikonia: you around? [17:12] heh [17:13] jussi01: yes, here I am [17:14] * jussi01 points ikonia to pm... [17:14] enough trollwatching in -ot for me, night all [17:15] bazhang: night [18:15] i'm around now [18:19] was anyone watching -ot when Cobalt left with an expletive? [18:19] was he justified in doing so? [18:43] meh, emma flooding #ubuntu [18:43] She Should Know Better [18:50] so, I'm connected to freenode on port 8001 and I'm still not allowed in #ubuntu [18:55] yes you are [18:56] when the bot told you to "please wait a couple of minutes" [18:56] it meant that you had to kindly wait a couple of minutes [18:56] now, it's just told you that you can presently rejoin [18:58] The meaning of wait a couple of minutes wasn't something I'd been having trouble interpreting. [18:59] I did ask the bot to test me quite a while ago to no avail. I see it works now. [19:00] JosefAssad: i see. well it's worked this time [19:00] JosefAssad: sorry if there's been any inconvenience [19:01] I hope the rest of your community are smarter than me. Cheers. [19:04] Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (hotgirlcandy9023) [19:17] klined [19:17] yeah, the viole(n)t highlights in several channels hinted to that fact [19:25] factoid proposal: !list is No, this is not THAT kind of channel. Move along. [19:42] counter proposal: alias it to !mirrors [19:43] counter proposal: just auto-ban the people using it [19:43] especially if they come from .it [19:43] agreed. next item? [19:43] the -it bot actually says "this is not a file sharing channel" if you do !list... [19:47] does it whisper it, snake-like, with a Sicilian accent? [20:10] mneptok: stop airing your fantasies :P [20:43] mneptok: imma not shorre whatte yerre implayinga [21:14] I see BUGabundo is trying yet another IP address [23:43] ubottu: tell Roozbeh|Away about away === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak