[00:00] ; resample-method = ffmpeg [00:00] ; resample-method = src-linear [00:00] ; resample-method = speex-float-1 [00:00] resample-method = speex-float-10 [00:00] ; resample-method = speex-fixed-1 [00:00] BUGabundo: the list is in src/pulsecore/resampler.c [00:00] resample-method = src-sinc-best-quality <-- hugely CPU intensive c_c [00:01] Twigathy: which is what we need to avoid [00:02] :) [00:02] ARM devices surely don't want cpu cycles burned via pulse's resampler [00:03] It might be nice if there were some way to change sample method in the audio bit of the administration menu, but I suppose if you know enough to want to fiddle with these things you'll just edit the file directly... [00:04] it's not quite that modular yet === defcon is now known as Guest79945 [03:10] is /bin/sh supposed to be busybox? [03:14] yes [03:16] dash here [03:16] dpkg-reconfigure dash didn't help [03:17] whats diverting it? [03:17] diversion by dash from: /bin/sh [03:17] diversion by dash to: /bin/sh.distrib [03:17] bash: /bin/sh [03:18] bigbrother@ingsoc:~$ /bin/sh [03:18] BusyBox v1.10.2 (Ubuntu 1:1.10.2-1ubuntu7) built-in shell (ash) [03:19] are you even on karmic? we're on 1.13 [03:19] yes [03:19] BusyBox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu4) built-in shell (ash) [03:20] Sarvatt::: is right, its dash [03:20] busybox-initramfs: Installerad: 1:1.13.3-1ubuntu4 [03:21] weird huh [03:21] sounds like something got screwed up in an upgrade [03:21] can that happen if i run out of diskspace? [03:21] sudo rm /bin/sh && sudo ln -s /bin/dash /bin/sh ? [03:21] oh is / mounted RO? [03:22] nope :p [03:24] any chance there were errors and it mounted RO (like from running out of disk space) and you have the old version in your initrd? i have no idea really, just throwing out guesses [03:25] remounted RO i mean [03:26] from errors=remount-ro in fstab [03:26] i'd reboot and check it again :D [03:27] i don't think errors=remount-ro remounts when running out of disk space [03:27] at least if i have 5% free [03:27] sarvatt: will there be a -10 kms kernel? [03:28] nope there will be an 11 kms kernel though [03:28] busybox as /bin/sh explains why some initscripts acted weirdly before [03:28] ok [03:28] theres problems with .31, it might even wait till 12 [03:29] afk [03:30] so many things dont compile on .31 yet like fglrx and nvidia and vbox and too many other things to count, anything block device/i2c/agpgart/network related that compiles external modules probably needs updating [05:08] hi [05:08] DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) [05:09] cannot mount any ntfs partition [05:10] everything was working normally, till semi-unexpected shutdown. afterwards, this problem arise. [05:10] by semi-unexpected shutdown mean: normal shutdown was in process, and power failure occured [05:11] how can i fix this, thanks. [05:14] i get that error when trying to open Places>Computer [05:15] billybigrigger: yeah, once error occurs, previously mounted drive partitions vanish [05:16] http://imagebin.ca/view/oafesRy.html [05:16] check your syslog and see whats going on [05:16] k [05:18] billybigrigger: hmm my problem is less complicated as compared to yours [05:19] billybigrigger: when i click computer, i can view system drive / filesystem = computer:/// [05:19] billybigrigger: but if i try to access any of other ntfs partitions, all ntfs partitions vanish ( previously visible) [05:20] billybigrigger: and this DBus error pops up [05:20] billybigrigger: but even then, only drive left accessible is filesystem [05:23] a temporary workaround i did was to mkdir in /media and force mount drives [05:24] this makes partition accessible but not viewable under System > Places > or Computer. [05:35] billybigrigger: gnome-keyring-daemon[xxxx]: Couldn't unlock login keyring with provided password [05:35] billybigrigger: gnome-keyring-daemon[xxxx]: Failed to unlock login on startup [05:36] can this be causing problem ? [05:50] hmm [05:50] must be due to recent update [05:50] n e ways its still alpha so gona wait more [05:50] till then bb [05:50] maybe try adding your user as an explicit authorization in system - authorizations - storage? [05:53] might have saved a bad password somewhere if you told it to save credentials in a dialog? the whole authorizations stuff is so confusing [06:14] Can someone help me figure out why my external harddrive won't mount automatically anymore. I think it's problem with devkit-disks === ripps_ is now known as ripps [06:21] ripps, bug 386699? [06:21] Launchpad bug 386699 in gvfs "Mistakes external USB flash disk for system-internal disk" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/386699 [06:22] Hew: I can't mount internal ntfs either. I think it just doesn't know what to do with ntfs partitions anymore [06:23] ripps, that's not an ntfs-specific bug [06:24] Hew: I know, I get a "cannot get volume.fstype.alternative" error when I connect or try to mount it [06:24] I can do it manually using mount.ntfs-3g, but I shouldn't have to [06:30] Hmm... it might be a polciykit thing [06:30] Not Authorized: Remote Exception invoking org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Authority.CheckAuthorization() on /org/freedesktop/PolicyKit1/Authority at name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1 was not provided by any .service files === albert231 is now known as albert23 [10:08] I have just updated karmic and compiz is working again hurrah! [10:58] bons dias [11:15] any one seeing compiz backtraces? [11:15] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/392850 [11:15] Ubuntu bug 392850 in compiz "*** glibc detected *** /usr/bin/compiz.real: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x0000000002458930 ***" [Undecided,New] [11:16] how do i debootstrap ubuntu? [11:16] virtuald: ah? [11:17] morning abundo [11:18] not using compiz right now [11:18] virtuald: what do you want to bootstrap? [11:18] would it work to debootstrap to /nfsroot and using that as rootfs for pxe boot? [11:19] i think jaunty [11:19] no idea [11:19] 32-bit [11:19] never attemped it [11:19] i had a debian-live system working before but i deleted it [11:20] it used some live iso i think [11:20] now with KMS enabled is anyone here with intel graphics finding it useful? [11:21] ie is their resume suspoend become lighting fast as was demonstrated? [11:21] is their boot actuaaly flicker free? [11:21] * tgpraveen is a sad nvidia card owner [11:24] tgpraveen: I have no prob with my nvidia [11:24] what is your up to? === BUGabundo1 is now known as BUGabundo [11:33] BUGabundo: oh dont get me wrong nvidia for the paast 3 yrs or so has been the best bet for any linux user [11:33] and very stable but [11:33] we wont be getting KMS [11:34] anytime soon. probably not till 10.4 at the very least [11:34] all thx to the nvidia drivers being proprietary [11:34] so? [11:34] why not use what ever we had until now? [11:35] BUGabundo: yeah it will run just as fine but without benefits of KMS [11:35] so i was wondering how the expereience of the intel card users was with KMS ? [11:36] does it really deliver in the fast suspend resume area [11:37] not so fa [11:37] suspend broke last tie i tied [11:37] not sure on speed [11:38] moe unstable atm, though [11:38] Hobbsee: ok. and the flicker free boot? [11:39] is identi.ca down for anyone else [11:39] hey Hobbsee. nice to see you back! [11:39] tgpraveen: Up [11:39] i get a blank white page with the text "No such site" [11:39] my suspend is fast, and so is resume [11:39] but broken on 75% of times [11:39] hibernate is working great dought [11:40] BUGabundo: how fast? in the KMS demo they showed a laptop and by the time they lifted the lid resume had completed and the screen was ready to be used [11:40] thats FAST [11:41] tgpraveen: humm like 3 secs? [11:44] BUGabundo: probably. [11:44] is that what u r getting right now? [11:44] I think so [11:44] if you like I could try to time it [11:45] but last time it did it, I was forced to reboot and fsck [11:45] BUGabundo: that would be intresting [11:45] lol [11:45] I got to Lock screen and fall back to TTY [11:45] I still have the .crash for it [11:45] forgot to file it [11:45] let me do it now [11:46] $ apport-cli -c susres.2009-06-24_14\:39\:24.683568.crash [11:46] *** Error: Invalid problem report [11:46] You are not allowed to access this problem report. [11:46] gotta love apport [11:47] let me guess, I need to sudo it ? [11:56] help! devkit-daemon sucks up all my memory [11:57] anyone with the same problem? [11:58] tgpraveen: so here is mine for suspend https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/392866 [11:58] Ubuntu bug 392866 in linux "late resume failure [non-free: nvidia]" [Undecided,New] [11:58] mapet: memory leak? [11:58] mapet: can you install atop and check memory usage? [11:58] sudo atop 2 [11:58] then 'm' to list memory [11:59] top shows 25.7 %mem right now [11:59] but it grows until my system gets unusable [11:59] 20% cpu [11:59] tgpraveen: " hibernate failing (presumably due to space" ahhh that's me!!! === AndrewGe1 is now known as AndrewGee [12:01] it looks like gnome-power-manager was the problem... killed it and now devkit-daemon runs "normal" again [12:02] mapet: looks like it is a mem leak [12:02] mapet: you may need to run it on valgrind [12:02] yes, it looks like a bug in gnome-power-manager that triggers another bug in devkit [12:03] !valgrind | mapet [12:03] Sorry, I don't know anything about valgrind [12:03] mapet: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind [12:04] i think i have to reboot first as gnome-power-manager won't start... [12:05] ok [12:11] why karmic have only bash 3.2, not bash 4? [12:12] miik: ask in #ubuntu-devel [12:18] ok [12:19] what are all these updates to HAL lately? are they are preparation for phasing it out in favour of DeviceKit? [12:19] check the changelog :) [12:19] oh yea [12:20] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal [12:20] life is easy :D [12:21] sure as shit [12:21] thanks dude [12:21] np :) [12:21] here's hoping HAL goes away soon [12:22] !language | sjokkis [12:22] sjokkis: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [12:26] hello [12:27] does nvidia-glx-173 is working (it was not working few days/week ago ? [12:29] zniavre: last i checked there are problems with kernels newer than approximately 2.6.28, due to some symlinks that have been removed [12:29] the fault is on nvidias side. the symlinks shouldn't be there, as far as i understand [12:30] it's a legacy driver tho, so you maybe out of luck. i'm running a 2.6.28 kernel myself, for the moment [12:30] ho ok (im on 2.6.29 they are working,they start to failed at 2.6.30) [12:30] oic [12:30] yes legacy driver for legacy graphic card fx5500 :o( sadly [12:31] wait and see thank you [13:05] with the latest update all powermanagement related functions disappeared [13:19] did gnome-power-manager just crash? its crashed a few times for me [13:19] replying to christophsturm, sorry [13:26] Sarvatt: shouldnt i see an apport icon if it crashed? [13:26] any logs to check? [13:32] christophsturm: a few changes came in, so now my powerbutton works again yay [13:48] hmm, i lost all power management related functions too upon reboot actually :D [13:49] Jockey dead? [13:49] mine says I have no prop driver LOL [13:50] $ sudo synaptic [13:50] Segmentation fault (core dumped) [13:50] so funny!!! [13:51] I remember seeing an apt_check crash earlier [13:51] eww [13:51] _usr_bin_apt-cache.0.crash [13:51] should I file it, or reboot and test again? [13:52] EVERYONE ELSE check your updates for apt changes!!! beware! [13:54] lost battery readings from something in the past 24 hours since the last reboot [13:55] Sarvatt: ? [14:06] yeah? [14:06] Sarvatt: if you file i can set it to confirmed :) [14:06] I mean if you file a bugreport :) [14:06] g'day [14:08] my userspace is so far from something i could make a bug report on it isnt funny :D haven't figured out what happened yet [14:08] christophsturm: you lost battery readings too after rebooting? [14:09] Sarvatt: cwillu: ping can you edit https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat ? [14:09] please remove the *edge* from those links. thanks [14:09] edit it to what? [14:09] why? [14:09] edge is test server [14:09] no need to announce it! [14:10] oh i thought you meant xorg-edgers LOL [14:10] but its prettier! [14:10] only bryce and tjaalton can edit it [14:11] ok [14:11] can you ping one of them on this? [14:11] bryce does love to use edge on URLs ehee [14:12] i dont understand why you're offended by it :D [14:12] Sarvatt: for me the whole gpm applet is missing. if i add the battery charge monitor applet i see that the charge of the battery [14:13] ohh, try loading up gconf-editor, then go to apps - gnome-power-manager - ui [14:13] icon policy say always? === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot [14:15] yeah if i kill gnome-power-manager and run it from terminal i'm getting a ton of these [14:15] (gnome-power-manager:5450): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Couldn't enumerate devices: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) [14:15] (gnome-power-manager:5450): devkit-power-gobject-WARNING **: Error invoking GetAll() to get properties: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus) [14:15] devkit power was updated, maybe gnome-power manager needs to be rebuilt [14:16] Sarvatt: no ofence taken :D [14:16] what kernel are you on by the way christophsturm? [14:16] policy was "charging" now its "always", and i when i go to power history i see only "processor", no battery etc [14:17] yep same here [14:17] 2.6.30-10-generic #12-Ubuntu SMP Mon Jun 22 16:30:32 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux [14:17] figured you didnt have it on always, mine was showing the plugged in with no battery icon [14:18] can you bug it? i'm not even using the ubuntu gnome-power-manager or devicekit-power packages [14:19] sure [14:19] .... or am i now [14:22] brb [14:23] Sarvatt: ahaha [14:23] so you have no real system to test stuff? [14:25] if i was home maybe :) [14:26] ahah [14:26] on the road? [14:28] Sarvatt, #392906 [14:28] yeah in traffic at the moment :) [14:28] that sucks [14:28] chrissturm: bug 392906 [14:28] Launchpad bug 392906 in gnome-power-manager "lost all power management related features" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392906 [14:28] thx :) [14:29] np [14:31] coolies, i'll say something in there when i figure out what it is [14:31] pulling in gnome-power-manager git over EDGE sucks, bad reception area :D [14:33] Sarvatt: I know I know [14:33] 40% of the time I'm on GPRS too [14:35] well its not g-p-m most likely, same errors with 2.27.2 and the previous 2.27.1-0ubuntu2.. looks like devkit-power.. its using some funky polkit branch now hmm [14:36] I dont care much about that bug because my system crashes when waking up from suspend :) [14:38] intel graphics? the fix for _alot_ of people with resume problems will be in 2.6.31-rc2 if so [14:39] hurrah, my "read from fd0" bug went away on one of the recent devicekit/hal/somethingorother updates :D [14:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/384469 I think. Thank you fixers! [14:39] Ubuntu bug 384469 in devicekit-disks "constantly polls floppy drive" [Medium,Fix released] [14:46] weird, i guess he forgot to switch branches after updating devicekit-power.. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/DeviceKit/DeviceKit-power/ [14:46] but when i clone it master has whats in the polkit1 branch [14:50] downgrading devicekit-power fixed g-p-m [14:51] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-power/008-1/+build/1057967 [14:54] too bad chrissturm left [15:07] christophsturm: reverting devicekit-power fixes it https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-power/008-1/+build/1057967 [15:11] i'm building 009 from git now to see if the pm-powersave commit that was added between the two is reliant on other changes post 008 or if its just that thats broken [15:56] hi everyone [15:57] is it possible to disable the mouse pad of the laptop when I connect another usb mouse? [16:07] how can j remove lilo? [16:09] karmic: I'm not sure, but if you install grub, lilo will go away [16:10] j did it, anyhow i'll try again [16:11] m_tadeu: do you not have a hardware key combination or button to disable/enable the touchpad? [16:11] !lilo [16:11] lilo is an alternative [Li]nux Boot[Lo]ader. Note: it is recommended that you use GRUB on Ubuntu instead. [16:12] karmic: there's no key for that here... [16:12] lilo is the only one that accept my installation of karmic [16:13] did you try the alpha2? [16:14] i am using it [16:14] that might be a problem of grub2....did you try the alpha1(I think it still install grub1 by default) [16:16] j understand maybe it would be better to download alpha1, that was ok [16:16] btw...you had a problem with grub2? what was it? [16:19] when j installed alpha2, it asked me wich installer j wanted, (the one olready installed, grub2 or lilo) the only choice accepted was lilo [16:20] it gave me an error with grub and i could not continue the installation [16:20] karmic: could you tell us what kind of system you're installing this on? [16:22] notebook acer , intel core duo 2 gb ram, ati, 386 [16:34] do you remember or do you have a copy of the error message grub was giving? [16:39] cyphermox, no i don't [16:41] if you want to replace lilo with grub2 you could probably just re-try to apt-get install grub2 and you would at the very least see the error message, if there ends up being an issue [16:46] i did apt-get install grub2, it did it, and asked if a wanted to remove mbr, by autoremove, j did so [16:49] ok. and grub didn't come up with error messages? [16:49] he quit [16:50] gah! :D [17:26] Anyone using the trunk version of notify-osd right now ? [17:31] how can I configure xorg to start up at 1024x768 instead of 800x600? I have to enter System Settings after each login to get to 1024x768 [17:34] also, how can I tell which xserver is currently running? I installed xserver-vmware but I want to make sure that I'm not running the old xserver === elpargo_ is now known as elpargo [18:00] is anyone else having problems with some gnome apps crashing in libgail since an update about 2 weeks ago? [18:29] guys is there a kdm theme manager/changer the default ubuntu kdm theme is really butt ugly :) [18:29] how do I change these? [18:30] !language [18:30] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [18:30] tgpraveen, butt is a non family friendly word????? [18:31] coz_: Can't you do that from the kde control centre? [18:31] penguin42, i dont know ... understand I am very new to kde and this is of course is kde 4.3 beta ... I am way too used to gnome so I have no clear idea where things are located yet :) [18:32] coz_: There's a big control centre/settings thing where you can do pretty much everything - and I'm pretty sure you can change themes there [18:32] penguin42, under system settings Appearance there are window themes and splash screen themes but no kdm theme references === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:33] coz_: Hmm is there something for login window or the like? [18:34] penguin42, not that I can no [18:34] not that I can see...no :) [18:34] coz_: At the top do you see a General/Advanced tab? [18:34] penguin42, you must be as used to gnome as i am :) [18:35] coz_: Yeh I mostly use gnome but occasionally KDE [18:35] coz_: On the system settings window, go to advanced and then 'Login manager' [18:35] penguin42, :) understood.. now I want to understand the settings in kde 4.3 beta but this one has been bothering me for a week and very few links appear when googling [18:36] penguin42, that is all greyed out [18:36] let me try it as root hold on [18:38] ok it worked as root but let me log off and test it [18:40] well that didnt work [18:40] hmm odd [19:03] * penguin42 gets confused - rhythmbox hasn't worked for mefor 2 weeks crashing in libgail; so I install libgail-dbg and it works - even though looking at the /proc/../maps rhythmbox isn't using it [19:04] food would seem to be the best solution [19:18] does anyone know what has changed from jaunty to karmic (both UNR)? I have no sound in jaunty, but in karmic it works (Samsung NC10) [19:30] drogenhilfe: I think both pulse and the kernel audio code have been updated - still can't complain if it's going in the right direction! [19:41] Hi, where do I find the "desktop appereance" settings in KDE 4.3? [20:39] hi [20:40] im using karmic to discover bugs [20:40] and something happen to mi dell inspiron 6400 (intel 945gm) [20:41] when i left some minutes without using and screen goes blank, it cannot go back from blank [20:41] (sorry my english, my main language is spanish) [20:41] hi everyone [20:41] hi BUGabundo [20:42] BUGabundo, do you speak spanish? [20:42] portuguese [20:42] oh, i see (because of your nick) [20:42] maybe you could help me [20:43] i have a intel 945gm, and when i left my machine some minutes without using and screen goes blank, it cannot go back from blank [20:45] I read it the 1st time [20:45] all I can say is that I think GPM is preaty dead [20:45] for now turn of screensaver [20:45] hummm [20:45] my machine is going to sleep on its own too and failing to resume properly [20:45] plus no Battery control right now [20:45] :( [20:46] wow [20:47] Hi all. I do "sudo do-release-upgrade" to update to karmic and it says "No new release found". Does this mean I already have it? [20:47] I'm still on 2.6.28-13-generic kernel [20:48] anyone? [20:49] pushrax: GUI or server ? [20:49] gui [20:49] pushrax: for GUI use $ update-manager -d [20:49] you forgot the '-d' [20:49] ok trying now. thx [20:51] ok. it's working on something [20:53] brb [20:53] pushrax: please read release notes, make sure you have FREE disk [20:53] and have removed all 3rd party repos/ppas [20:54] also try using a closer mirror that has karmic packages! [20:58] yep plenty of disk space and also read about grub 2 not linking dual boots [20:58] brb [21:01] anyone else with aptitude broken ?? [21:01] apt_check [21:10] BUGabundo: I might give it a miss as it wants to downlaod 2gbs of updates over 20 hours. better to probaly install from scratch with alpha 2. Thanks for your time and help [21:11] pushrax: change mirrors [21:11] plus 2G?? that's toooo much [21:11] did you really had all of that? === PoliticianNEW is now known as PolitikerNEU [21:25] I installed right after the alpha 1 release. I chose the (then not default ext4 filesystem). Other than the new grub bootloader is there anything important that I'm going to be missing from simply updating from the alpha 1 release? [21:27] poseidon: other then grub2. no [21:32] Hey all - just thought I'd check in. How's Karmic coming? Thanks for your hard work. [21:34] TwoToneSpirit: heeh [21:34] going fine as usual [21:34] a bit unstable right now [21:36] yeah, to be expected I suppose [21:36] I've already stumbled upon a couple of blogs that are getting amped for it [21:37] feel free to test it, under a VM [21:42] Do you enjoy development? I want to get involved, but I don't know where to begin. I write PHP very well, but I don't really know any other current languages. [21:43] ka [21:46] TwoToneSpirit: I write zero (code) languages [21:46] eehe [21:47] anyone can and should help how ever they can [21:47] :-) [21:47] I do it by testing, reporting, triaging, helping users,advocating etc [21:47] what do you do for the most part? What is most needed? [21:47] totally - I do those things as well, especially outreach and support [21:47] what do you mean "triaging?" [21:48] taking a look at new bugs on LP, and making sure they are in good condition, also upstreaming them if needed [21:50] i want to know what will happen with gpm ? [21:53] supreme: me too [21:53] eheh [21:53] Did battery related stuff blow up for anyone else using a laptop? [21:57] joetheodd: +1 [21:57] nothing here! not even LCD bright :(( [22:04] oh, i have a problem mounting a partition that i cannot mount since i update to karmic [22:04] cannot mount with nautilus [22:04] but in console i can [22:04] i get this error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus [22:05]