[00:16] BUGabundo, there ? [00:16] yep [00:17] BUGabundo, I think you know about the multisearch addon bug, I reported that one, and I want to ask you about your experience regarding such issues [00:18] LOLOL [00:18] I said my mind enoutgh about it [00:18] I disabled it [00:18] this is my first time to have such hot bug, and I was surprised how much the people are aggressive [00:18] and recommend everyone to do it too [00:18] is this normal in bug reports, I mean the language and and impatience ? [00:18] not aggressive [00:18] *apprensive* [00:18] no [00:18] not many bugs get that big [00:19] only now of 5 in the last 2 cycles [00:19] one for UM [00:19] on for notifyOSD [00:19] one for intel drivers [00:20] people tend to feel impatient if they feel things are not precisely as they want them in "their" distro [00:22] BUGabundo, what is that 5 ? [00:22] this one [00:22] lolol [00:24] BUGabundo, despite the LOLs, i feel stupid not understanding what is that 5 in 2 ! [00:24] sorry?? [00:29] multisearch addon bug? [00:32] bjsnider, BUG 402767 [00:33] Launchpad bug 402767 in firefox-3.0 "multisearch CSE breaks l18n+setfocus+images+cached+I'm feeling lucky functionality and "violates user trust"" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/402767 [00:33] aboSamoor: he means he knows of 5 such "hot" bugs during the last 2 Ubuntu versions [00:33] correct [00:33] sorry was WFK [00:36] JanC, I was confused because he mentioned 3 + 1 implicitly [00:36] I guess the 5th was U1 [00:36] maybe [00:37] yeah, I just discovered th U1 by reddit [00:37] eeheheh [00:37] u1? [00:37] baahhh [00:38] that's not a byg [00:38] that's a FAIL [00:38] LOL [00:38] almost forgot that one [00:38] U1? [00:38] ok we can fit that on the list [00:38] what is this? [00:38] bjsnider question day? [00:38] LOLOL [00:38] bjsnider: U1= UbuntuOne.com [00:39] ok [00:39] so If linux subreddit is a thermometer, then there is another hot bug that is really annoying more than most of the previous 5 hot bugs [00:39] I mean the firefox performance [00:40] on my laptop firefox takes about 30 seconds to open [00:41] mine is very fast [00:41] just tends to break with many stuff [00:41] hm, depends on # of addons and such too [00:41] I ran ff-3.6 but was not that better [00:41] ADVERT: I run 3.6 alpha from daily ppa [00:41] JanC: you don't have enough fingers to count how many I have :) [00:42] I have 6 addons and all of them are popular addons which means it is hard to find serious bugs in them [00:43] 6 without multisearch :P [00:46] pfff [00:46] BUGabundo: how do you know I'm not an alien with 100 tentacle-fingers? [00:46] let me list mine [00:46] JanC: humm still I would have more :) [00:46] kidding [00:47] this is 3.6. on 3.0 and 3.5 I had more working http://paste.ubuntu.com/251665/ [00:49] BUGabundo, this is like committing suicide [00:49] naaa [00:49] its adding extra funcionality and bugs [00:52] according to https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=501605 ff access IE history on startup and this makes it slow, i wonder if my ff on ubuntu is earching for IE for 30 seconds then it realizes that I am waiting so it opens the tabs ! [00:53] Mozilla bug 501605 in Libraries "very slow startup for Firefox 3.5 due to accessing IE Internet Temporary Files and Windows Temp folder" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [01:01] time to hit the sack [01:32] you're going to punch alexander sack? [02:19] i installed windows and now i cant restore gryb can anyone help me i am on the live cd now [02:23] !grub2 [02:23] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [02:23] ubuntu its there [02:23] Recovering Grub from a LiveCD [02:24] or something :P [02:24] billybigrigger: the problem installed windows and now my partion is gone [02:25] how do i restore it i onliy have a cd of ubuntu 7.04 [02:25] live cd [02:25] your partition is gone? [02:25] so your overwrote ubuntu? [02:26] with window [02:26] s [02:26] billybigrigger: only the boot loader [02:26] read the wiki then [02:29] but grub 2 and one does differ [02:30] billybigrigger: the problem is i have a 7.04 liv cd and in adept there is no grub 2 [02:30] well if your running karmic you should be running grub 2 [02:30] grub legacy isn't supported anymore [02:31] billybigrigger: so how do i get my system up and running [02:32] how about download a current livecd? [02:32] billybigrigger: link me [02:33] please [02:33] ? [02:33] livecd link [02:33] cauz i am on kubuntu 7.04 livecd [02:33] pat yourself on the back [02:34] huh [02:34] if you would have read that Grub 2 Recovery link i pointed you to [02:34] you would know where to find the latest livecd [02:34] ok [02:34] Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD [02:34] * [02:34] First, grab a copy of the latest Ubuntu LiveCD and boot it. [02:34] * Open a terminal and type [02:34] http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download [02:34] the link is on the first line [02:35] billybigrigger: so 9.04 uses grub2 [02:35] no [02:35] 9.10 [02:35] what version of ubuntu do you have installed? [02:36] on that link i can only download 9.04live cd [02:36] i was on karamic [02:36] yeah [02:36] that is the latest released livecd [02:36] but is shows as 9.04 [02:36] so i can download it [02:37] yes [02:37] and it will work [02:37] ok i will try that [02:37] thanks alot [02:37] you might have better luck asking in #grub for recovering grub legacy [02:37] like i said its not supported anymore [02:38] hmm [02:39] karmic cd's are here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/daily-live/current/ [02:39] you don't need a karmic livecd to recover grub [02:39] i suggested a stable release for the simple fact that he might run into more problems with karmic dailies [02:40] ok [02:40] but he's running karmic [02:40] yeah [02:41] but the dailies are hit and miss [02:41] one day they work the other they don't [02:41] doesn't matter what his OS he is running, he's only trying to recover grub [02:44] true [02:44] have you tried google yet? [02:44] recover grub via ubuntu livecd [02:44] isnt there anyway to compile grub2 on my livecd [02:45] first hit on google [02:45] my bandwind is notat all good will take me ages to get the live cd downloaded [02:45] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [02:45] get karmic back running [02:45] then refer to the wiki page for upgrading from grub legacy to grub 2 via .... [02:45] !grub2 [02:45] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2 [02:47] billybigrigger: so is it possible to recover over normal grub [02:48] ? [02:48] i think your confusing yourself [02:48] billybigrigger> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [02:48] read it, do it [02:48] i mean can i recover my grub with the currnt kubuntu 7.04 [02:48] tes [02:48] yes [02:48] but i cant mount a partition [02:48] why [02:49] mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1, [02:49] missing codepage or helper program, or other error [02:49] In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try [02:49] dmesg | tail or so [02:49] !pastebin [02:49] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [02:49] sorry [02:49] try reading the error [02:50] what command are you trying to pass? [02:50] billybigrigger: 931.340000] EXT3-fs: sda2: couldn't mount because of unsupported optional fea tures (240). [02:50] sudo mount /dev/sda1 realroot/ [02:51] you meant /realroot ? [02:51] what is realroot? [02:51] reaot mount pointolr [02:51] I guess -- and I stress the guess -- a mountpoint [02:51] yes [02:51] its a mountpoint [02:52] and does the realroot directory exist? [02:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows [02:52] nuff said [02:55] mysql-server is currently broken? [02:56] caused by moving 5.0 to 5.1? [02:56] yoasif: haven't checked the lists, but that was the action a few days ago [02:56] probably could expect breakage from it [02:56] ouch === ryanakca is now known as Guest66699 === Guest66699 is now known as ryanakca [03:32] do any of you know how to compile fglrx/ati drivers for a custom ubuntu kernel (after you install karmic package) ? [03:37] spO, the default ati driver is still installed [03:37] ? [04:05] hello all [04:06] was wondering if anyone could help point me at some good information about karmic unr, particularly for Acer Aspire One [04:07] I need to figure out why my wireless quit working after the -3 kernel, because now I don't even have that as a boot option in grub... [04:10] luckyone: which card model? [04:14] Acer Aspire One KAV10 with Atheros AR5BXB63 [04:15] sorry i don't know Atheros cards [04:15] no worries [04:25] luckyone: is that how lspci identifies it? [04:25] yeah, it is weird... the wireless card can see networks, it network-manager just can't connect to anything [04:26] AR5001 [04:26] hmm [04:26] luckyone: are you connecting to a network that requires a password? [04:26] ie.. wep or wpa [04:27] searching wpa2 === ubuntu is now known as snake_187 [04:27] network manager won't even connect with a wired connection though [04:27] oh. [04:27] now thats odd [04:27] this will make it tough to take updates... [04:28] oh boy. whats your version of apparmor? [04:29] how do I see version from cli? [04:29] dpkg -l apparmor\* [04:30] 2.3.1+1403 [04:30] ubuntu9 [04:30] OK. so it is *not* the issue we had last week [04:30] yeah, this quit working after -3 [04:32] i think there are some hardware issues because of the switch from hal to devicekit right now [04:33] yeah, I need to figure out a workaround so I can take updates in the meantime [04:34] probably just need to figure out how to get grub to let me load a previous kernel [04:34] luckyone: i think you're right, cuz i've had some issues w/ my atheros device to(242x) [04:35] did you find a way to fix it? [04:35] also sucks because I can't automagically add something to launchpad [04:36] luckyone: well, no id idn't.. oddly enough, i connected to my network [04:36] but it would not let me online [04:37] [drm:drm_wait_vblank] *ERROR* failed to acquire vblank counter, -22 [04:37] lots of those [04:45] ! Gnome-disk-utility [04:45] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [04:45] how can i start Gnome-disk-utility ? [04:53] palimpsest [04:54] nhasian: run the command 'palimpsest' [04:55] nice. is that not in the system menu anywhere? [04:55] I'll never remember the command to launch it. i cant even pronounce it. [04:57] dunno [04:57] not in ubuntu at the moment [04:57] haven't updated yet today either [04:57] been awake since 6:30am, its 10pm now, i've been compiling linux from scratch all day :P [04:58] nice [04:58] and still don't have a usable system haha [04:58] doh! [04:58] building a linux system from scratch sucks! haha [04:59] now i know why the developed package managers :P [05:00] okay here's a question. how can i tell if a package like gnome-disk-utility for example comes by default with ubuntu or if it was installed by the user afterwards? [05:00] honestly, no idea [05:00] i imagine you could look on packages.ubuntu.com and look at the package ubuntu-desktop? [05:01] i checked synaptic package manager and looked at the package's properties. it says Priority = Optional but i dont know if thats the best way to check [05:02] yeah it says gparted is also optional but i know that it comes standard with ubuntu === zj3t3mju is now known as GirlCrab [05:45] anyone know if they have any of the bugs worked out of pulseaudio yetA? [05:48] im running the intel ICH5 onboard sound and with pulse audio running i have nothing but static coming out of my speakers even when im not listening to anything,so i uninstalled it. [05:48] was just wondering if it was any better yet? [05:53] nhasian, I guess you can use $ aptitude why yourpackage, and try to build your conclusions from there. [05:56] also, you can check the dpkg logs and aptitude log in /var/log === GirlCrab is now known as GirlCrab|Lunch [06:11] oh hey, any of you using the grub2 gfxboot thingy? [06:12] It's not in official repos. [06:12] gfxmenu? [06:12] DanaG: http://grub.gibibit.com/ [06:12] ??? [06:12] is that what your talking about? [06:13] yeah. [06:13] did it make it to grub svn? [06:14] i emailed colin bennet about that and he didn't know when it would be ready, that was a few weeks ago though [06:14] I'm using the ppa from here. [06:14] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7767489 [06:14] it's glitchy -- redraws constantly, and rather horridly slowly, at that. === GirlCrab|Lunch is now known as zj3t3mju [06:15] hmm [06:15] well no, im not using it to answer your question :) [06:15] honestly haven't been booted into ubuntu since frida [06:16] friday [06:16] I think I'll just switch back to no gfxmenu. [06:16] been screwing around with linuxfromscratch haha [06:16] yeah its a bummer [06:18] hmm, anyone know much about what xsplash is supposed to do? [06:18] For me, it makes the login window rather unpleasant: [06:18] its suppoed to be confusing [06:19] When xorg starts, I see this: [06:19] *flicker* (xsplash default-wallpaper) (gdm with custom wallpaper) [06:19] like almost any X program on linux, no common standards and that makes it like kinder surprise [06:19] And then once I log in, I see this: [06:19] (gdm custom wallpaper) (xsplash default-wallpaper) (gdm custom wallpaper) (my wallpaper). [06:19] so it flicks back to default wallpaper multiple times. Irritating. [06:19] And really ugly. [06:20] * billybigrigger reminds all we're still in A3 :P [06:20] i still wait until those linux stuff maybe 2.8.X kernel, the config is written into a single xml file [06:21] instead of searching the whole crap over the entire disk [06:22] thats linux from scratch [06:23] * DanaG prefers to tweak from the bottom up, not from the top down. [06:24] * ikonia points to the topic [06:24] hmm, though "linux from scratch" may describe pretty well what I'm doing with a Microblaze cpu on an fpga. [06:24] er [06:24] sorry, I swapped my words. [06:24] * DanaG prefers to tweak from the _top down_. [06:24] =P I said that entirely backwards last time. [06:27] are you doing some FFT calculations danag? [06:27] gents - #ubuntu+1 is for 9.10 discussion please. [06:28] well, the xsplash thing, at least, was on topic. [06:28] and grub's gfxmenu [06:28] What is it actually supposed to do, besides making invalid assumptions about wallpaper? [06:28] :P [06:29] ok sorry i destroyed the Mohammic Karma of Ubuntu with my offtopic speech [06:29] alteregoa: no need to be silly, it is a polite request [06:36] do any of you know how to compile fglrx/ati drivers for a custom ubuntu kernel? (ie, ati doesn't support 2.6.31 , but it is supposed to support 2.6.30 [06:36] oh yeah, there's a PPA for that. [06:36] spO: wait for a patch? [06:36] there ya go :P [06:37] "dinxter" [06:37] https://launchpad.net/~dinxter/+archive/ppa [06:42] thanks danag [06:47] danag, how exactly do i download that after i add that to my sources.list and update apt-get ? [06:48] brb, i am going to pick up a perscription [06:51] oh yeah, actually, now there's a nifty toolL [06:51] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ppa_name/path_under_that [06:51] like ppa:dinxter === zj3t3mju is now known as NotGirl|Edit [07:44] danag, that package requires generic version of any kernel, right? [07:44] for custom kernels , it is basically very difficult if not impossible to get ati /proprietary drivers installed? [07:45] spO: shouldn't be [07:53] z02325.33321 [07:54] err, sorry [08:11] i don't have add-apt-repository [08:22] 128 rops and 300GB/s bandwidth [09:09] Just installed karmic alpha 3 and installed all the updates. Now grub won't boot any of the kernel entries. I get an error that goes something like: "true: no such valid parameter" [09:30] lufis: And your Wi-Fi is also dodgy:? [10:06] hi, the livecd is only detecting one of two hard drives [10:07] voltagex: there have been many updates to Karmic since your alpha 3 live CD [10:07] crap, 700mb quota wasted then [10:07] what's the easiest way to test karmic then? [10:08] voltagex: can you install from the live CD? [10:08] then download updates [10:08] first drive is full [10:08] you'll need to download a few hundred megs of updates [10:08] second drive had a spare partition [10:09] should be /dev/sdc [10:09] voltagex: Just to state the obvious, have you looked in the Places menu for it? [10:09] places? the K menu? [10:10] The menu that is second [10:10] Applications, Places, System [10:10] on your desktop [10:10] dolphin only lists one drive [10:10] I'm just saying - is it in your Places menu? [10:10] no. [10:10] :) [10:10] I mean, I have another partition that is not mounted at boot but it's in the Places meu [10:10] menu [10:11] nope, no dice [10:11] what filesystem is the partition? [10:13] unformatted, but the entire drive is missing [10:13] there's a 950GB NTFS partition, and a 50gb partition that was meant for this, but both are not showing [10:16] Could somebody try to open https://security-shell.ws/showthread.php?t=15891&page=2 in firefox ? [10:16] dupondje: crash [10:17] voltagex: I dunno. It's not terribly surprising, though [10:17] seems like something buggy in firefox :p [10:17] dupondje: yep [10:17] dupondje: report it and say it's confirmed [10:17] (One of the reasons why I'm not happy about the move to 3.5) [10:18] dupondje: I'm reporting it [10:18] k [10:18] :) [10:18] dupondje: which FF are you using? [10:18] 3.5 [10:19] richardcavell: is there a daily iso download? [10:19] voltagex: nope [10:19] voltagex: at least, not an official one [10:20] dupondje: crashes on 3.0.13 for me [10:20] yea indeed, was just testing that also :P [10:20] dupondje: what's the exact version number you're using? I'll report both [10:20] ii firefox-3.0 3.0.13+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 safe and easy web browser from Mozilla [10:20] ii firefox-3.0-branding 3.0.13+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 Package that ships the firefox branding [10:20] ii firefox-3.5 3.5.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 safe and easy web browser from Mozilla [10:20] okay [10:25] bug # ? ;) [10:26] mate, my Net's slow [10:26] get fiber ! [10:26] :) [10:27] yeah I know [10:29] dupondje: are you on 32 or 64-bit? [10:30] 64 [10:31] dupondje: me too [10:31] it doesn't crash for me [10:31] 32bit ? [10:31] yes [10:31] have you applied all updates, dupondje ? [10:32] Ian_: what version of FF are you using? [10:32] richardcavell: yep, all updates [10:32] icorne@unicorne:~$ apt-cache policy firefox [10:32] firefox: Installed: 3.5.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 Candidate: 3.5.2+nobinonly-0ubuntu2 [10:33] okay almost done [10:33] seems like a Karmic bug [10:33] bug 412418 [10:33] karmic 64 bit then [10:33] Launchpad bug 412418 in firefox-3.0 "Broken website" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412418 [10:33] because i'm on karmic and don't have it :) [10:34] Ian_: yeah [10:34] Ian_: and dupondje : add stuff to my bug report if you like [10:35] I can't figure out how to get to the broken website feature since the menu item has been disabled, while still collecting debug info [10:35] richardcavell: added firefox-3.5 to package list [10:35] yep [10:38] looks good [10:47] How dodgy is it to upgrade from GRUB to GRUB2? [10:48] xcdfgkjhgcv: not dodgy [10:48] works fine [10:48] richardcavell: What benefits would I get from switching? [10:49] xcdfgkjhgcv: if it ain't broke don't fix it [10:49] richardcavell: Unless you want to make it better. [10:49] richardcavell: Debian Etch wasn't broken for me. [10:49] ext4 support? [10:49] GRUB2 is way more sophisticated [10:49] it supports my OS X too [10:49] I only have one OS. [10:50] And that's Ubuntu. [11:22] Karmic fixed the Wi-Fi problems I had with Jaunty. :D [11:22] Bittorrent was unusable. :( [11:23] And Karmic will fix my Intel performance problems too I think. :) [11:23] i hope it will [11:23]