[00:14] I find myself wondering, if upstart plans to replace init, why then my first process is still called init? [00:19] If GNU ls is an implementation of ls, why is it still called ls? [00:21] where's Keybuck? :-/ [00:22] My guess would be vacation. [00:22] ion: do you know if there has been any work done on implementing time-based events? (to replace cron & friends) [00:22] Not yet, there are still more important things to get done. [00:24] States and proper fork tracking should be implemented in 0.10, time-based events at some point after it probably. [00:24] I see [00:24] I wonder what happened to the built-in SELinux support patch [00:25] Thankkfully Slackware is not going this route and Slackware is the major distro I use. [00:26] Good to know that Slackware still embraces obscure race conditions. :-P [00:27] Actually all my event based items work marvelously. I could literally remove my laptop's hard disk if I wanted to... [00:27] I wonder how long is Gentoo going to stick with their new rc script [00:29] anyway, I have found some good reading about upstart, and it does appear that I can start making jobs for upstart to replace the old init scripts. [00:32] Thanks ion for the link and the explanation, it was very helpful. [00:48] is any of the grownups here up to date about the plans for network-related events? [00:57] raphael___: Keybuk might be on holiday, considering the time of the year ;-) [01:02] JanC: yup, ion already suggested that. It's very likely that's the reason [01:03] anyway, this channel is logged [01:03] so he might see any suggestions [01:12] If you want to reach him, send an email. Who reads days worth of IRC logs just in case someone had something to say to him? :-P [12:49] hi [12:49] i have problems with init scripts on ubuntu 9.10 [12:50] none of scripts from init.d were launched on boot up [12:50] any advise ? [21:33] i got a weird issue, i'm running ubuntu 9.10 on a Xen Guest. The console doesnt come up. I created /etc/event.d/hvc0 but on boot it doesnt seam to start. If i ssh into the server and run start hvc0 the console starts and works, but for some reason on boot it wont.