[00:00] penguin42, that's how the current sync works fr them [00:00] ah ok [00:00] BUGabundo, mkdir /dev/net first [00:01] worked [00:01] and n2n works? [00:01] n2n is working too [00:02] lsmod|grep tun show anything? [00:04] tun 13316 0 [00:04] and you rmmod'd it before right? [00:04] * cwillu_at_work thinks [00:04] yp [00:05] that doesn't show up on mine after that sequence, although the device exists [00:05] unless it just gets modprobe'd on demand at that point [00:07] (12:05:56 AM) asac: you can add tun to /etc/modules to ensure its loaded [00:09] shouldn't be necessary though [00:19] (anyone using kvm?) [00:21] cwillu_at_work: so what now? [00:21] hammer it ? [00:21] alias it to modprob everytime? [00:21] lol [00:24] BUGabundo, well, that's what putting tun in /etc/modules would do [00:24] I know [00:24] but I need a true solution [00:24] I'm trying to push this for android [00:25] would be cool to have n2n Linux (ubuntu) to my Android :) [00:25] that may well end up being the true solution [00:25] * cwillu_at_work notes the existence of lp in /etc/modules [00:25] udev is on that bug report, yes? [00:26] cwillu_at_work: Odd that, again you would have thought in the old conf.modules days you could just add an alias to load lp when the /dev/lp was accessed [00:26] oh, but with /dev stuff is only created when it's loaded - yeuch [00:26] * cwillu_at_work shrugs [00:28] cwillu_at_work: I put udev there, yes [00:29] * BUGabundo stabs exail [00:30] BUGabundo: What's it done to you? [00:31] penguin42: its their highest bug [00:31] still unfixed [00:31] BUGabundo: which one? [00:31] very hard to fix... [00:31] gtk popup [00:32] ? [00:32] don't have it from head [00:32] what's the symptom? [00:32] !g exaile bug critical gtk popup [00:32] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [00:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+bugs?field.searchtext=scrollbar [00:32] * penguin42 has been helping nail the memory leak in exaile [00:32] penguin42: ask recon :) [00:32] he knows all about it [00:32] hey exaile is working OK for me [00:32] even mentioning it, makes him go balistic [00:33] oh it works sure [00:33] but on N track changes, you get a popup [00:33] * penguin42 doesn't - but there again I'm running the version from bzr [00:34] me too [00:34] trunk [00:34] have too. [00:34] found a bug and helped fixed it last weekend [00:34] what does the popup say? [00:34] with recusive list [00:35] penguin42: next time it pops up [00:38] BUGabundo: I mean I've had it playing for at least 2-3 hours today in a straight run wuth no dialogs [00:38] let me ask in #exaile [00:38] :Q [00:38] * BUGabundo suits armor [00:39] BUGabundo: Hmm, how often do you get it would you say (in songs) and are you 32 or 64bit? [00:39] 64bits [00:40] hmm not that then [00:41] can't find the darn thing in ppa [00:41] *LP [00:41] * BUGabundo hates LP search [00:41] * BUGabundo hits google [00:44] penguin42: "Failed to parse stream" [00:44] BUGabundo: That sounds like you have a bad file in your library, or one for a format it doesn't understand [00:44] http://paste.ubuntu.com/349328/ [00:57] * BUGabundo picks a band haid and patchs kmail [00:57] :( [00:58] is kmail still as buggy as always? [00:58] yep [00:59] just got a crash while deleting a thread [00:59] I HOPE that darn bug is fixed for good [00:59] and that his was just a fluke [01:09] BUGabundo: wow, you can actually use it? [01:09] yep [01:09] not sure if you mean kmail [01:09] or n2n [01:09] but YES on both counts [01:09] when I start kmail it first starts fine, then the akonadi error log shows up, and when I close that kmail crashes [01:17] Hi, I was told today about an ubuntu upgrade past 9.10 which is 10.4 called lucid, and I was wondering if anyone here who used it would be able to tell me if it is any good or not [01:17] flootenkerp: good what? [01:17] as in Stable? [01:17] NO [01:18] oh, ok. So it lags and is very buggy? [01:18] not much [01:18] but if you need it in production [01:18] then don't use it [01:20] Nah, I just use my computer for average things like surfing the web and programs etc. Is there anyway I can directly upgrade from 9.04 without losing all my files? I wanna test it out [01:20] And if there is, is there a way I can downgrade back to 9.04 if it turns out I don't like it? [01:21] Keeping my files, that is [01:21] downgrading is very hard [01:21] near enough impossible [01:21] we have TWO wines now ? [01:22] Well, I guess I could use virtualbox ose to test it out [01:22] BUGabundo: wine is the stable version, 1.2 is the 1.1.X series [01:22] yeah I see [01:23] Which is the iso I should download to test it out on vb ose? [01:23] flootenkerp: the most up-to-date ones are the dailys [01:23] !daily [01:23] Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [01:23] daily [01:23] Alright, thanks [01:23] flootenkerp: if that fails you can try the alpha1 one, but that's rather old now [01:24] Alright, thanks for the help guys. [02:12] i have constructed a debian package installer for the native 64-bit flash plugin [02:12] it seems to work [02:26] nice bjsnider === astechgeek is now known as techgeek [03:21] Hi, I have a question. How do I enable extra repositories for 10.04? [03:40] Hi, back. I'm on ubuntu 10.04 right now, using the iso that allows me to test it, I just want to know how I could get the extra repositories working because I can't install anything from terminal at all [03:44] that's not how the livecd works, nor is it the purpose of the livecd [03:44] at least that's what i'm assuming you're talking about === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride [03:46] I assumed the package manager would work on the desktop trial like it did with other versions [03:47] trial? [03:47] not trial, tst it out before installing [03:47] test* [03:47] no, it builds a ramdisk which can't be altered [03:48] Ah. So if I install it it'll work? [03:48] you can test the kernel, the drivers, the sound and video system [03:48] that's the real pont, check to make sure your hardware is all working under that kernel [03:48] check your printer, wireless, wired lan, graphics and sound [03:49] Oh. Well everything is fine. Flash seems to be working better then 9.04, but I really wanted to test compiz. [03:49] bjsnider: You can generally install things, but they won't persist across reboots. [03:49] I had troubles using compiz with 9.04, took me a while to get it working [03:49] RAOF, didn't know that [03:49] Yeah, how do you think I'm on IRC? [03:49] RAOF, only from main though? [03:49] I need to install a pluging for pjirc :P [03:50] bjsnider: It's a full system; you could edit /etc/apt/sources.list to your heart's content. [03:50] Flootenkerp, what graphics card do you have? [03:50] Not sure [03:51] well you can run lspci from the console and look for the graphics entry [03:51] When I tried 9.10, which was really buggy for me, compiz worked immediately [03:51] So I wanted to see how it was on 10.04 [03:52] RAOF, surely there must be a strict limit on what you can install due to lack of ram [03:52] So, is there any way to install compiz just for a test? [03:52] compiz is already installed i think [03:53] you may lack the proper graphics driver though [03:53] Nah, works fine on 9.04 [03:53] I have the cube, skydome and all. [03:54] try enabing desktop effects in preferences/appearance === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [03:57] bjsnider: Yeah, you will eventually run out of ram as you install/edit stuff. [03:59] Well, so far it's been much better then 9.04. Can it download and install all the packages karmic and jaunty can? [03:59] look, if you think karmic was buggy, lucid would be exponentially buggier... [04:00] what bugs are there in karmic that you think are showstoppers? [04:00] Really? I haven't noticed anything [04:00] Well, it was laggy, flickered when opening folders sometimes programs wouldn't open [04:00] I had huge bugs in karmic wubi [04:01] I don't like installing wsith wubi. A disc install is much better. [04:01] What are some bugs with lucid? [04:03] I haven't tried out lucid actually [04:03] I'm going to dl it right now [04:03] Well, lucid looks awesome. I can't wait till' it's stable and ready for its actual release. [04:06] Hm, well I'll be switching back to my original ubuntu. Later. [04:35] any smart people around? [04:35] ;) [04:51] libbluray isn't upstream in debian is it? === \vish is now known as mac_v === KB1JWQ is now known as PFY [06:33] !is it out [06:33] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:33] is it out? === mac_v is now known as \vish [10:13] morning [10:32] poke poke [10:33] you know, I think I may be spending too much time at work [11:03] hey cwillu_at_work [11:03] cwillu_at_work: get into a plane, and come party with us [11:03] got a good looking girlfriends [11:03] * cwillu_at_work considers it [11:03] I _did_ just get paid [11:03] eheh [11:03] i got a bonnus [11:04] where are you anyway? [11:04] ...but thats just because i didnt use my holiday days [11:05] * cwillu_at_work has forgotten :p [11:05] * BUGabundo_work slaps carrie memory [11:05] Portugal [11:05] well, then it's just pay that they thought they didn't have to pay you then :p [11:05] that's driving distance :p [11:05] if I leave yesterday [11:06] no, wait :p [11:06] :D [11:06] glad you can make it [11:06] * BUGabundo_work sends sms to reserv another ticket [11:07] cwillu_at_work: here is the flyer http://www.portovivo.com/reveillon_vintage_247858.htm [11:14] \o/ [11:15] god I need coffee [11:16] Anyways, I think this is where I'm supposed to say "Hey, do you know Laura? She's from portugal!" [11:16] although I think she moved to new zealand anyway [11:21] brb, this no coffee thing is killing me [11:36] BUGabundo_work, which one? [11:37] !? [11:37] <@PSYCHOatwork> su means switch user; it just happens to switch to user 0 (root) with no arguments [11:37] eheh [11:37] there's something i learned in 2009 :) [11:37] oh, never mind, google translate put me onto a different page [11:39] ya, people talking about su and sudo and security in general is a common source of rage for me :p [11:39] i'm not joking [11:39] i tough su was "super user" [11:40] well, it's not exactly unreasonable :) [11:55] how can I create an ISO file from the local hard disk files? === BUGabundo_work is now known as BUGabundo_lunch === kinja-sheep is now known as Guest7001 === BUGabundo_lunch is now known as BUGabundo_work === PFY is now known as KB1JWQ === mac_v is now known as \vish [15:20] BUGabundo_work, r u on amd64 sir? [15:22] <\vish> !schedule [15:22] A schedule of Lucid Lynx (10.04) release milestones can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule [15:31] bjsnider: YES sir [15:33] * \vish what all the "formality" is about ;) [15:34] <\vish> wonders* [15:38] BUGabundo_work, i managed to phony up a package that installs the flash 10 alpha plugin last night [15:38] based on the one in the repos that installs the 32-bit plugin with nspluginwrapper [15:39] it needs testing. it works here [15:44] well i wont be home until tomorrow night :) [15:44] cool [15:44] i already have flash 64bits .so for Chromium and FF [15:47] what this thing does, it downloads the plugin, hash checks it, unpacks it, puts it in a /usr/share directory and then links every browser plugins directory to it through alternatives [15:47] and also all of that will be undone if you remove it, so you don't have to do that manually anymore [15:51] cool [15:51] ask for a merge D [15:51] talk to asac [15:51] chromium-browser was failing to load several sites that I rely on , so i switched to chrome-beta..problem solved [15:52] which sits? [15:52] sites [15:52] i just sent them our chat log :D [15:52] #ubuntu-mozillateam [15:52] my igoogle page for one [15:52] uhh [15:52] i didn't want to go that far [15:53] oh cool, webchat autocompletes #s :D [15:53] BluesKaj: daily here, working fine [15:53] well not daily, two days ago or somethng [15:53] forgot to upgrade today [15:54] chrome beta isn't much different , just better for me [15:57] Scale plugin fail. It cant switch to an app thats on a desktop thats above/below [16:04] duffydack: talk to Amaranth [16:04] eh? === \vish is now known as mac_v [16:07] Amaranth: hi... ! how does alacarte manage to show icons on buttons even with the default gnome settings? [no icons on buttons] [16:07] what flag does it use? [16:08] mac_v: each button is setup to contain a custom widget then I stick an hbox in with an image and a label [16:08] its a limitation in karmic as well... I have 4 horizontal and 2 vertical, using scale plugin to see all apps running and selecting 1 from thats not on the same horizontal set, it cant.. [16:08] mac_v: that's not the proper way though [16:09] Amaranth: ah.. so you kinda hacked it... cool :) [16:09] mac_v: that's just how glade forced me to do it long ago [16:11] ;) === mac_v is now known as \vish [16:25] I'm using the ubuntu-desktop ppa with the updated gtk2.0+ and nautilus. for some reason the file browser will not browse through the filesystem (go into a different folder) if i use sudo, it works fine. file browsing through programs works fine.. anyone else experiencing the same problem? [16:28] and me thinking running +1 was crazy enough [16:28] and ppl run +1 plus PPA :) [16:29] :P [16:29] yeah.. im thinking i will have to revert [16:34] by guys. see you tomorrow. enjoy your party. i know i will [16:34] cya BUGabundo_work [16:34] you too :) [16:34] hi and bye BUGabundo_work :P [16:47] just installed daily, won't boot into X - the display is switching video modes, I see flashes of text mode text that look like a login prompt and a one line error [16:48] my goal is to see if a gtk bug has been fixed, but I'll dig into this problem if someone will give me some guidance [16:56] CarlFK: See if there is anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log [16:58] penguin42: keyboard doesn't seem to be responding - capslock doesn't toggle the light [16:59] will ctrl-alt-f2 get you a login prompt? [16:59] guessing I need to reboot into text and walk though the boot scripts [16:59] c-a-f2 - nothign [16:59] display still flipping through video modes [16:59] reboot into text mode and see if there is anything useful left in /var/log/Xorg.0.log or any of the other logs [17:01] what's the trick to getting the grub menu? [17:02] shift [17:02] just after the bios - keep tapping the shift key [17:05] woa... so I picked rescue, got the Recovery Menu, but the keyboard is .. whacked. capslock=nothing, but arrow keys put chars on the screen at the menu cursor overwriting the "Rescue..." text [17:05] c-a-f2 = blank screen [17:06] hmm, work through ctrl-alt-f1...f10 see which one is most useful [17:06] oh weird - holding down down-arrow, more garbled chars then cursor moved down [17:06] at a # prompt now [17:07] ok, so I'd look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log [17:09] this is like some april-fools prank.... [17:10] I type "cat" and see "c", hit enter, see "cat: command not found" [17:10] did it again... [17:10] I type "cat" and see "c", hit enter, see "cGarbled time" [17:10] try a rescue disk [17:11] good plan [17:11] c-a-d works [17:19] bingo: [ 0.180193] (==) NV(0): DPMS enabled; Backtrace: ... 2: /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7f67c58fa000+0xf190) [0x7f67c5909190]; Segmentation fault at address (nil) http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/a/Xorg.0.log [17:21] * penguin42 doesn't know much about the nvidia [17:22] Ill talk to the #xorg [17:38] I installed flashplugin package, but my Fx does not recognize it. [17:39] Wasn't there a sym link we used to have to do in one of the first versions of Ubuntu? Maybe that is missing [17:41] dabaR: In your ~/.mozilla/firefox/funnyname there is a file called pluginreg.dat - quit firefox, delete the pluginreg.dat and restart - see if it fixes it [17:41] tx [17:42] brb [18:00] chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': Exec format error [18:00] booted live cd, im trying to apt-get install into the system mounted under /media/sda1 [18:01] 64bit v 32bit ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:01] ah, yep. [18:01] thanks [18:02] any easy way around this? (other than booting a 64 bit live [18:03] not easily, you can't run 64bit binaries on a 32bit kernel [18:04] oh, and apt-get will .. um.. yeah [18:04] bash is just the first problem [18:10] penguin42: nope, deleting that pluginreg did not help [18:11] dabaR: Are you 32 or 64 bit? [18:18] 32 [18:19] hmm that should be the easy one [18:20] for sure:) [18:20] penguin42: Ah! [18:20] Heh [18:20] I remember I have another fx window open in another workspace [18:21] ah [18:21] kill it, kill them all.... [18:21] works just fine [18:21] thanks [18:48] CarlFK, if you're using the nv driver you'll inevitably have issues [19:20] question: went to try out empathy on the lucid livecd and there doesn't seem to be any option for setting up irc accounts [19:20] am i missing something? [19:24] telepathy-idle is installed? [19:26] geser: you talking to me? [19:26] yes [19:27] o - in that case - yes it is [19:27] 0.1.5-1 [19:28] then I've no idea [19:34] just seemed odd in that irc is the main support channel (other than launchpad) and empathy seems to have poor irc support [19:54] jetsaredim, i still on xchat [19:55] sal_: i've had to install pidgin on 9.10 to get around empathy [20:03] What is policy about ppa repos related to kde (kubuntu 10.04 LTS edition). If I enable ppa repo (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu karmic main), does it mean I will get updates based on kde for 4.4.x (let say bug fix updates) or latest version of kde in general (for instance 4.6.x after two years)? [20:08] i don't see what having a karmic ppa repo enabled would do for you [20:08] if you are using lucid [20:08] oh. karmik is just an example [20:09] drabina, it's a question for whomever owns the ppa [20:09] only they know what they'll be putting in there [20:09] does anyone have any idea why istanbul recommends installation of cvs and cvsnt? [20:12] at first i thought you were talking about the largest city in turkey [20:13] Ok. so maybe in other way.. Let say, lucid would be based on gnome 2.30, does it mean I need to enable ppa lucid main for gnome 2.30.x bugfix releases? [20:13] bjsnider, haha [20:13] i can't figure out why a turkish city recommends ubuntu packages... [20:13] yoasif: "aptitude why istanbul cvs" -> istanbul depends on gettext which recomments cvs [20:14] geser, ha, any particular reason that it depends on gettext? pretty odd requirement, it seems [20:14] maybe i'm wrong [20:15] drabina: some selected gnome bugfix release will probably get uploaded to -updates as SRUs [20:15] yoasif: I didn't look in detail yet [20:16] geser, no prob :) [20:27] geser: I have these questions, beacuse I'm really confused. I haven't found informations about what will/won't be included as standard package updates for lucid. [20:30] drabina: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates [20:30] lucid might be different because of the lts factor [20:31] geser: ok, thanx! [20:31] did they add new versions of gnome and kde to hardy over the past couple of years? [20:32] Can anyone on lucid 64 bit do tracert commands? [20:32] bjsnider: Well, hardy was the big kde3-kde4 shift [20:34] alex_mayorga: Oddly, it didn't seem to be installed by default, but having installed it, it seems to work [20:34] but hardy does not currently have packages for gnome 3.38 does it? [20:34] 2.28 i mean [20:35] penguin42: I installed like "sudo aptitude install traceroute" yet when I invoke tracert I get the suggestion to install [20:35] weird [20:35] alex_mayorga: traceroute not tracert [20:36] then this error message is buggy I guess "$ tracert [20:36] The program 'tracert' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: [20:36] sudo apt-get install traceroute [20:36] tracert: command not found" [20:36] alex_mayorga: That's because it's not tracert [20:37] oh I see what you mean [20:37] !info gnome hardy [20:37] gnome (source: meta-gnome2): The GNOME Desktop Environment, with extra components. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.20.2.2ubuntu0.1 (hardy), package size 1 kB, installed size 40 kB [20:37] !info tracert [20:37] Package tracert does not exist in lucid [20:37] alex_mayorga: Yeh that looks like the error is wrong - I'm not sure where that comes from [20:38] penguin42: I'm pretty sure tracert existed back in the day [20:38] alex_mayorga: Hmm, never seen it on unix, it's the windows name for the same thing [20:39] alex_mayorga: Ooh, you're right, on my karmic box it's there, it's a link [20:39] alex_mayorga: But I can't figure out what put it there [20:48] penguin42: thanks on confirming I'm not crazy [20:48] alex_mayorga: Well I can't go that far :-) [20:50] :) [20:50] I'll chase it when I come back from lunch :D === Mohero_ is now known as Mohero [23:27] * penguin42 yawns