[00:05] can someone explain what the heck is going on with my wifi? [00:06] http://pastebin.com/MTS2BemU [00:08] Im beginning to think its a bug [00:10] uberdub, did you try removing and adding the module? [00:11] yes [00:11] Ive dont that === asd is now known as Guest15411 [00:12] uberdub, try a live CD before thinking there's a bug, also you'll know if it could be a hardware problem === mike is now known as Guest36095 [01:49] I've just mounted my winpartitions in dolphin .... they show up in /media .... with their labels as names , can i some how change that to i e /media/win/d etc? [01:50] i tried to rename with krusader but that wont do it [02:46] hi [02:46] whats up sir taco [02:48] tem algum brasileiro ai? [02:48] !br | gasper [02:48] gasper: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado. [02:56] can any one help on how to me set up KOPETE SMS === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [02:57] so, I open the audio config tool and click "Test", sound comes out. Sound does not work anywhere else in my OS... Ideas? 11.04 fresh install as of about an hour ago... [02:58] ohh, amarok works [02:58] chrome, firefox, and pidgin all do not [02:59] i would assume gtk applications aren't working an kde applications are... I wonder if they're looking for Alsa or something? [02:59] hi cristina how are you? [02:59] add an h, remove a t, and i'm doing well :) === chrisina1ar is now known as chrisinajar [03:00] is there any way to make java output sound correctly? [03:00] were is sir taco? [03:01] I haven't used Kubuntu in a while, been using 8.04 at the office... So far it's really slow and sound doesn't work :/ [03:01] * chrisinajar misses kde 3 D: [03:03] hello [03:03] hello [03:03] what's this with Firefox freezing my system suddenly when I open links from within Pidgin windows??? [03:03] hey chris [03:03] you're in a jar; what happened there? [03:03] it's a trap [03:03] do you want pidgin to open the links in firefox? [03:04] chrisinajar: did you try removing pulseaudio? [03:04] kurtul_: no, but i tried adding it [03:04] chrisinajar: heh [03:04] chrisinajar: see the whole system just freezes... [03:04] kurtul_: i don't think it was installed by default, i could be wrong [03:05] I can SSH into it but... I can only do alt-sysreq-BUSIER. [03:05] Roey: go into your settings, one of the tabs shows the command it runs when you click on links, try fixing that [03:05] that's the only thing that it seems to respond to. [03:05] chrisinajar: yeah but what exactly is causing my system to freeze? [03:05] Roey: probably xorg breaking [03:05] dunno! [03:05] Roey: try sshing in and running top [03:06] Roey: also, check .xsession-errors (sp?) in your home directory [03:06] ah true [03:07] hm... contemplating installing xfce instead of this kde shenanigans... xfce tends to "just work"... [03:07] chrisinajar: I've searched and all I found are links to Firefox 'crashing' [03:07] but nothing about the system up and freezing [03:07] Roey: well, if your whole x sessions breaks then it's not just firefox crashing [03:07] I will check the xsession errors, one sec [03:07] chrisinajar: true... [03:07] perhaps it's related to Flash somehow [03:07] * chrisinajar needs sound for a skype interview tomorrow [03:07] shoulda just left 10.04 installed, it actually worked. [03:09] http://pastebin.com/TERGmDqS [03:09] seems like you've heard of similar issues? [03:10] Roey: change pidgin to load links in firefox instead of konqueror [03:10] hrm [03:10] Roey: looks like flash + konq are nuking your system [03:11] Roey: it's right there in the settings, easy to find [03:11] chrisinajar: /usr/bin/chromium-browser [03:11] that's what it launches at the moment. [03:11] that crashes [03:11] er [03:11] that freezes my system [03:11] Roey: that or use chrome, i've found it works much better under linux anyway... [03:11] Roey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:11] FloodBotK1: out, stupid bot [03:11] craaaap! i need sound! [03:11] chrisinajar: and so does Fx when I try to right-click save on an animated gif (that also inexplicably freezes the system; not even the mouse moves). [03:12] BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM [03:12] huh [03:12] ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAARRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! [03:12] really weird [03:12] from the googling i've done, it seems like 11.04 is a very buggy release :( [03:12] oh [03:12] chrisinajar: how so [03:12] is thatsound enough for ya [03:13] lots and lots of complaints about bad graphics drivers and souns problems, causing lots of lagginess and sometimes freezes [03:13] my system is definitely laggy [03:13] i'm downloading xfce as we speak [03:13] i can't use this [03:15] okay [03:15] eek. [03:15] I mean it worked for me but I understand you completely as it has happened to me on a bunch of releases. [03:18] hah, at least HoN runs :3 [03:20] hola!! [03:20] chrisinajar: what's your sound chip? [03:20] bravo: hello [03:21] soy nuevo en esto....... [03:21] !es [03:21] En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [03:23] Daskreech: it's an on-keyboard sound device, on the G110 [03:24] Daskreech: the test button in the sound config tool works, but even on the next tab clicking the left and right speaker buttons do not. amarok and other kde applications can make sound, but chrome, pidgin, and skype all cannot [03:24] Daskreech: this is off of a fresh installation as of about an hour and a half ago [03:26] Daskreech: it seems after logging out and back in, amarok cannot make sound [03:26] only the test button can currently make sound (good test!) [03:27] chrisinajar: does alsamix work? [03:27] command not found [03:27] um [03:28] alsamixer [03:28] it opens [03:28] is there a way to make it test? [03:32] Daskreech: alsamixer runs and see's my card [03:32] Daskreech: there's no way to make it test it, though.... [03:33] things are not muted? [03:34] Daskreech: nope, if i mute them the test button in the kde config tool stops working :) [03:35] Daskreech: i can turn up and down the volume, all is well, the test button still works. Every other application on my system, however, still does not. [03:36] chrisinajar: might want to check if there is something like an internal sound vs a sound card in the preferences [03:36] there is [03:36] Daskreech: hey!! :) [03:36] You tested both? [03:36] hi Roey [03:36] hey hey [03:36] Daskreech: Only my PnP device works, the internet card referrs to the ports on the back of my computer [03:36] Daskreech: i believe what's happening is that every single application except the settings tool is using that [03:37] I need to tell my system as a whole to use the device I have configured in my settings to use [03:37] which I would assume would be done via the settings tool, but it's not working [03:39] chrisinajar: you swapped the preference? [03:41] Daskreech: I manually created a ~/.asoundrc file and told it to use my other device [03:41] everything works now [03:41] how intall FreePascal in Kdevelop [03:41] ? [03:42] chrisinajar: yay! [03:50] i have a question i remove the default WB then konqueror install can i remove konqueror from kubuntu 11.04? [03:52] everything online reguarding "can i remove konqueror?" is a little old [03:53] i did find a administrator on kde forum said yoou could [03:53] but im not going to pull the triger yet until i know [03:54] but that was four years ago [04:06] the plot thickens. I've gotten sound to work in most applications, including Skype, however when I open chrome it breaks sound in Skype until I close chrome again [04:06] the devices actually disappear from the list [04:06] any ideas? [04:06] Daskreech: --^ [04:07] chrisinajar: not sure I know skype messes with my sound but it's acceptable for me [04:08] chrome ships with it's own codecs and sounds management as well [04:08] somehow I'm not that surprised they somehow end in a battle [04:08] jordan_: What are you asking? [04:09] i was wonder if i could remove konqueror [04:09] like "sudo apt-get remove konqueror' then input Y then enter [04:09] jordan_: yes [04:10] why did i install after i removed keq? [04:10] it* [04:10] what did what install? [04:11] i didnt have konqueror on my compyter before [04:11] computer* === areli is now known as john-doe [04:13] here on the main page pn kubuntu web site it says konqueror came with 11.04 [04:14] but i didnt have a icon in my launcher and kpack download some file with "konqueror" [04:15] soooo i dont know [04:15] * chrisinajar is confused as to what he's asking [04:15] yay, got kdevelop all configured the way I like... All I need now is skype to work correctly and I can go to bed [04:15] is there a fail safe? if you delete your web browser? [04:16] jordan_: install another web browser, would be the failsafe [04:16] jordan_: personally i recommend chrome, although a lot of people also like firefox [04:16] i use firefox === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [04:16] i dislike chromes bookmarking [04:16] ok, then you don't need konqueror for anything [04:17] feel free to remove it and rejoice [04:17] if i remove kon will rek install again then? [04:17] ill see [04:17] rek? [04:19] the browser kubuntu comes with [04:19] huh, i had no idea that existed [04:19] only knew about konq [04:20] well its called a web kit [04:21] "rekonq" [04:22] based on a web kit [04:22] or whatever [04:22] ty btw === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [04:43] I can't play any movies with kaffeine [04:43] I'm using natty [05:12] Good morning everyone [05:12] kilani morning [05:13] preecher hi [05:15] preecher which version of ubuntu u'r usin'?? [05:15] 11.04 [05:15] Greetings, all. [05:15] o/ [05:15] greetings [05:15] preecher cool [05:18] news today?! [05:20] hello. I just bought a DVD and I'm trying to back it up to my hard drive so I don't have to mess with a disc. I've done most of my collection with dvdbackup -M but this one keeps failing with "libdvdnav:DVDOpenFileUDF:UDFFindFile /VIDEO_TS/VIDEO_TS.IFO failed". Any thoughts? [05:22] Which DVD? :P [05:22] Easy A :-) [05:22] xD [05:23] I've ripped a bunch of TV Shows and Movies with this method and the only one I've had issues with other than this is Dark Knight [05:23] All right. Which application are you using to try to play it? [05:23] that was a different issue, though [05:23] I can't get it ripped at all [05:23] no file to try and play [05:23] Hmm... [05:24] I honestly have no idea, then. [05:24] I get the error message I posted originally, it repeats once, and then libdvdread: Can't open file VIDEO_TS.IFO [05:24] and then says it failed [05:24] me neither [05:24] it's a newer movie, but I thought the format would have to be the same on all discs, otherwise how would never discs play on older players? [05:25] newer* [05:25] If you have another computer, I would recommend ripping it and copying it to a USB key or portable drive to transfer it to your current computer. [05:25] I also recommend the .mp4 video file extension, as it's the most widely compatible. [05:26] I've been burning to .iso files [05:26] I like menus and subtitles and bonus features [05:26] you think it would help going to another computer? [05:26] they all run the same OS, kubuntu 11.04 [05:27] I think another computer is a possibility. [05:27] oddly, k3b can see all the vob files [05:27] okay, I'll give it a shot [05:27] Then again, I have 2 Windows computers, along with my current PC running Kubuntu 11.04. [05:28] hang on, after k3b lists all the files, I get the same error but then it starts getting keys [05:29] That's odd. [05:29] and then it gives me new errors about reading VIDEO_TS.VOB at block #### (different locations) [05:29] and then something about padding x blocks [05:29] yeah, very weird [05:30] Excuse me, I need to leave my computer for a moment. [05:37] Back. [05:37] areichman: Did your problem get fixed? [05:39] I don't know yet, the original computer is still trying to copy, getting lots of "Error reading some file at block ##" and "Padding ### blocks" [05:41] areichman: Do you mind if I open a one-to-one chat for a moment? [05:41] not at all [05:49] skype (per ubuntu repos) exits without a message after about 5 seconds when launched. if I run it from Konsole, I only get the message "Terminated" [05:51] I refuse to use Skype. I hate it. >.> [05:52] That doesn't help a whole lot ;) [05:52] lol [05:52] Sorry. xD [05:52] Spaz_Dynamic, i downloaded skype from their website and it's working fine for me [05:52] No problem. =) [05:53] ^ in 11.04 [05:53] s_p_or_t_o: did you get linux skype, or skype static? [05:53] linux skype beta: http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/linux/ [05:54] i'm using 32bit [05:54] so ubuntu, not static [05:55] yes [05:56] hrm, maybe an ubuntu update borked it then, cause thats the one I had, but I think it got updated from the repos. I'll try uninstalling it and reinstalling it from the .deb [05:58] it does the same thing... [05:58] something else must be conflicting with it [05:58] are you running 32bit or 64bit [05:58] 64 [05:59] it had been working last I tried (week or two ago) === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [05:59] Actually, more recently than that, I believe [05:59] did you install the 32bit lib? (ia32-libs) [06:00] ia32-libs is installed, yes. [06:01] adding a script to autostart. there's an option for "create as symlink" do i pick yes or no? [06:01] what does "dmesg | tail" tell you, Spaz_Dynamic [06:02] It launches, shows the login window, and exits, and had been working a few days ago. [06:03] and the dmesg has some messages from stuff I was doing a few hours ago [06:03] specifically some messages about mounting some things [06:04] echo "#TO UNBUNDLE, SH THIS FILE" for i do [06:04] echo "echo $i 1>&2" [06:05] echo "cat > $i << 'End of $i' " [06:05] interesting [06:05] cat $i [06:05] skype static closes too. [06:05] echo "End of $i" [06:05] done [06:05] something is seeking and destroying skype. =( [06:06] what this code does? [06:07] I am going to take drastic measures.... I'm going to restart my computer. [06:07] brb [06:07] Spaz_Dynamic, interesting, what's the version number in software management, mines 2.2.0.25-1 [06:07] kk [06:10] I cannot get visual effects to work on my machine after upgrading to 11.4. I have an HP Mini 110 with Intel Mobile 945GME graphics. Previously, Compiz worked with zero issues on Gnome, but KDE is choking [06:11] *Sigh.* I can't stay awake. [06:11] peculiar, it is still doing it... [06:13] anyone expert in SHELL scripting? [06:14] What is kernel taint? [06:14] it sounds funny [06:22] s_p_or_t_o: http://magvar.wordpress.com/2011/05/26/skype-crashes-on-start-ubuntu-11-04-10-10-32bit-and-64bit/ [06:23] renaming specified file seems to have resolved my problem [06:25] sweet, i'll keep it in mind on my next restart of skype lol === NaBoo_ is now known as NaBoo === gpc is now known as IdleOne [07:37] hey all [07:37] just a quick question: how can i drag and drop a favorites shortcut in kicker to my desktop folder view widget? [07:37] manually creating each shortcut sucks. === Keshl_ is now known as Keshl [07:48] Greetings [07:49] hi [07:49] Arv3n: kicker? [07:49] kde3? === sangha is now known as voliptitude46 [08:33] ppl [08:34] I can't understand why my Kubuntu failed to connect to WLAN if the connection is encrypted (passphrase) === steveire_ is now known as steveire === f00 is now known as f001 [09:38] Hey guys, got a fairly simple question: I have KDE setup to auto login and lock the screen. I need to run a script when I unlock the computer. How can I do it? [09:39] (I mean, when I unlock the system it automatically runs the script) [10:05] robbiethe1st - I'm not sure that's possible with the current version of Kscreensaver. You may want to write a feature request on the KDE bug tracker (bugs.kde.org). Sorry. [10:05] Darn [10:07] how can i get dolphin to copy some files from a ntfs partition over to kubuntu's ext4 partition? [10:09] ShorTie - You should just be able to click the corresponding disk in the Places bar (on the left), find the file, and copy it like you would files in your home directory. [10:09] (ShorTie) Using the Split view is often very convenient for that :-) [10:10] Hello. [10:10] Hello, cousin_mario [10:10] i've tried right click copy, but when i get back to /usr/local/src there is no paste [10:11] A few days ago somebody gave me the link to the launchpad page about the nvidia bug with xorg >1.9, only now I can't find it anymore. [10:11] Your user account doesn't have privileges to write to /usr/local/src. Try opening Dolphin as the administrator by typing "kdesu dolphin" into krunner (alt-F2) [10:12] (that was meant for ShorTie) [10:12] cousin_mario - Do you mean this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-96/+bug/626974 [10:12] Ubuntu bug 626974 in X.Org X server "ABI change in xorg 1.9 breaks legacy nvidia-96 drivers in Maverick" [Undecided,New] [10:14] lengau: no, it's not legacy and it's on Natty [10:15] lengau: in the bug page there was a link to the nvidia forum talking about it and when the patch will be released [10:15] This one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/711409 [10:15] Ubuntu bug 711409 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu Natty) "[MASTER] -nvidia broken after Jan 31st updates, because it does not yet support xserver 1.10" [Critical,Fix released] [10:15] Thankz .... :) lengau [10:16] ShorTie - You're welcome. [10:18] cousin_mario - This seems related to the last one I linked as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/703688 [10:18] Ubuntu bug 703688 in nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu) "[Natty] Need X-server 1.10-compatible nvidia driver (xorg-edgers ppa)" [High,Fix released] [10:20] lengau: thanks, but I recall the linked forum thread debating the merits of 275.xx [10:21] lengau: I probably haven't looked hard enough:) [10:25] I installed kubuntu's desktop in regular ubuntu for the ability to choose it if I like(while keeping the Unity), and the shutdown button doesn't seem to work [10:26] while keeping the Unity desktop* === kostya is now known as Kostanakis [10:31] Samo502 - I believe this is an issue with KDE talking to GDM (the login manager). A quick workaround is to simply log out and then shut down. Otherwise, you can make KDM your default login manager and install the kdm-gdmcompat package, which I believe will let you use the shutdown, reboot, etc. features in both KDE and Unity. === szal_ is now known as szal === DevCore_ is now known as DevCore === szal_ is now known as szal [11:44] Greets, everyone... X is crashing as soon as it starts (i.e., ~1 second after the hour glass shows up). Here's my Xorg.0.log: http://pastebin.com/7F4durig [11:49] Any ideas? === szal__ is now known as szal [11:59] can anyone help me? [12:00] i just helped my friend installed kubuntu and his wireless network cannot connect it say it need ip config === szal_ is now known as szal === szal_ is now known as szal === szal_ is now known as szal [12:27] hello [12:29] why kubuntu always freeze? [12:30] *why my kubuntu 11.04 always freeze? [12:30] because its a cool distro? [12:31] sorry for not being very helpfull... [12:32] i mean why it always hang? [12:32] define "freeze" [12:34] what really mean is why it always stuck? [12:34] how stuck? [12:34] flykillers: where does it get stuck/freeze? [12:47] my friend just installed kubuntu and his kubuntu cannot connect to the wireless?? [12:48] it say it need ip config address? [12:48] can anyone help me?? [12:49] which kubuntu release is that? As long as your network has DHCP it should get the address from there [12:50] kubuntu 11.04 [12:50] it have.. [12:51] flykillers_: what wifi card is he using? [12:51] i want to run a flash screensaver on kde, how to accomplish it? all guides talk about using xscreensaver, instead of kscreensaver, any suggestion? [12:51] flykillers_: I take that the wpa negotiation works then. [12:54] flykillers_: does the DHCP server normally supply the IP to other clients ? [12:55] maybe... [12:58] I suggest you find out then. === slinker1 is now known as Guest56607 [13:05] everytime I run quassel there is this annoying letter-envelop on systray saying I have 1 app running - quassel. Of course I konw that. [13:06] kubu2: you can remove it from the system tray settings [13:06] amichair: the thing is there is no remove. only hide [13:06] under Display -> Extra Items, you can check/uncheck various components [13:07] It sounds like the one that's bugging you is Message Indicator - uncheck it [13:08] ok..but why does quassel only doing that? [13:09] I guess it's the only app you're running that uses this notification system [13:10] I think this is redundant..that is why kubuntu is so fat? [13:10] fat? [13:10] it's like having the toilet telling you 'sir you just poop' [13:11] kubu2: to each his own... [13:12] (I removed the message indicator as well. But then, I use konversation, not quassel) [13:12] kubu2: the plus side is that it's configurable, like much of KDE - there is no 'one and only' way. [13:12] amichair: yeah..did you know there is a project for a low-fat kubuntu? [13:12] bbl [13:13] kubu2: I did not, that would be interesting [13:14] I'd get rid of all the akonadi crap, with it's mysql db and handful of useless running processes and strigi taking up gigs of disk space for nothing. [13:15] exactly..but the thing is kubuntu has them all tied up that's it's hard to without re-building deb pkgs to weed out dependencies [13:15] and fix all those dang memory leaks and bloats in plasma and X (plus a few 100%cpu bugs too - can't believe they still have those) [13:15] Just today (well, yesterday too) I had to reboot my system because I had the audacity to try and resize a window. [13:17] amichair: I haven't seen that one but you may have other issues but then again it's something kde/kubuntu may not handle well [13:18] i'm guessing you may have system isssues for such a basic thing to freeze your system [13:19] kubu2: I think it's just a bug, introduced in Natty (didn't have any trouble before the upgrade). Has to do with desktop effects, though I don't know if the bug is in the effects, or plasma, or kwin, or X, or NVidia drivers. They're all pretty buggy. [13:21] amichair: try using NVidia drivers instead [13:22] kubu2: already am [13:23] can i run flash as screensaver in kubuntu? i don't find a way to do that [13:23] you can isolate things by disabling desk-effects on go on from there [13:23] i'll end replacing kscreensaver with xscreensaver otherwise === sebastiano is now known as gunsofbrixton === slinker1 is now known as Guest55262 === skynet is now known as Guest64415 [13:48] Hiyas [13:51] hey BluesKaj [13:52] hi BluesKaj [13:52] hi amichair yofel [13:59] too bad amarok is so buggy , or do I not understand it's quirks ? [14:01] BluesKaj: it is sadly buggy [14:01] :-( === kondor is now known as Zolorado === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:09] hi there! My wifi is very-very slow on Kubuntu 11.04, somebody has teh same problem? [14:09] too many options for a simple user like me ...I don't care about playlists etc , I just want it to load the music folders so i can scroll down and choose what I want ,,, all the other stuff is superfluous [14:14] * BluesKaj switches all default media xtns to vlc [14:14] godbye amarok [14:16] on KDE, i like QuodLibet [14:17] never looked at it [14:18] QuodLibet is a gtk app [14:19] ugghh youŕe right :( [14:21] can some one view http://kde-apps.org/ with Rekonq? does it ask you to save a file named safari.jsp? [14:21] I have to use nautlius-dropbox so i have a few gtk-libs , it's a necessary evil [14:22] please, I need some help! my wireless speed is very low, I don't know what's wrog, it worked beter on Win XP [14:22] DeltaEpsilon, yes it goes here too [14:22] err does [14:22] weird [14:23] :( [14:23] shame they haven't tested it with kde-apps.org with Rekonq. [14:23] and Rekonq is listed in kde-apps.org [14:23] :( [14:24] not a rekonq fan , it's not very configurable for preferred look and layout [14:24] my [14:25] BluesKaj: it integrates well in kde4 [14:25] BluesKaj: I fixed it by adding safari.jsp to the ads block list in Rekonq [14:26] integrates yes , but not to my tasten , i don't want bookmarks bar as a sidebar and there's no across the top option from my experience with it [14:26] if it asks you to download a jsp file, it sound like a server configuration bug, not a client bug (without knowing anything else about it) [14:29] is Qt cross platform? [14:29] how do i connect to hidden wifi? i can manage connection but can't connect? [14:29] DeltaEpsilon: so they say [14:32] amichair: I am trying to make a dictionary app with multi language support. [14:32] it would be nice if I can also compile it for windows [14:33] then you can try qt, or wxwidgets [14:33] but keep your core code nicely encapsulated, just in case :-) [14:34] or, you can try any interpreted/JIT language (java, python, etc.), but there are pluses and minuses to those [14:37] :( I thought Realbasic is free for opensource developers === tchangang is now known as TTA [15:18] it's raining here guys :) [15:19] so get some wellies. this is a support channel === transitlogger is now known as apachelogger === apachelogger is now known as randalogger [16:00] I'm having difficulty with the plasma-desktop. If I have to restart it, I use the 'kquitapp plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop' command. when I start it up again using 'plasma-desktop', the bar goes across the middle of my screen. I'll take a screenshot to show it, but is there any way to move it back to left? Rebooting does the trick, but I hate having to reboot my system whenever this happens === rob_____ is now known as rghvdberg [16:22] ciao [16:42] hi i have installed kubu 11.04 64 bit.... when i resize konsole (and only it) my system crash [16:44]