[00:00] yeah [00:02] SIR_Taco: Hardware acceleration is enabled. [00:02] I've checked [00:03] if you run it from konsole do you get any more information? ALT-F2 konsole ... then type "chromium-browser" [00:07] .. konsole is terminal.. [00:07] yes [00:07] lol [00:08] .... WTF?! [00:08] [01:07:17] lol [00:08] [01:07:17] <-- LINKSWORD2 has left this server (Read error: Connection reset by peer). [00:08] ... Really? WTF? [00:08] -_- [00:10] ? [00:10] SIR_Taco: same === r00t_ is now known as Guest77725 [00:10] PythonSnake: what version of Kubuntu? [00:11] LINKSWORD2: seems your peers didn't like you [00:11] SIR_Taco: how to check? [00:11] SIR_Taco: I think it's latest [00:12] PythonSnake: in a terminal type "lsb_release -r" [00:12] Python, you can find out by going to the Help app in your task menu. [00:12] ... Or that. :/ [00:13] 11.04 [00:13] latest. [00:13] PythonSnake: ok, give me a second to see what I can find [00:17] PythonSnake: you could try updating to a newer (beta) version of Chrome to see if it fixes the problem: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/beta [00:18] might just be a problem with that version.... if it still doesn't work, you can always revert back to the old one [00:19] SIR_Taco: ok [00:26] I think I broke him/her lol [00:27] me ? [00:27] PythonSnake: yes, there you are... does it work now? === pablo is now known as Pablito [00:28] SIR_Taco: nah same :( [00:30] SIR_Taco: maybe use any other browser ? [00:30] PythonSnake: anything that doesn't use Webkit from the looks of things... Firefox should work fine [00:31] SIR_Taco: it freezes [00:31] PythonSnake: there is something not right with your computer.... [00:32] ? [00:32] it works great on gnome [00:33] PythonSnake: chrome and firefox work fine on Gnome? do you have both installed at the same time? [00:33] what's the problem anyway? (backlog too long to read up) [00:33] szal: Chrome and Rekonq seg-fault, firefox freezes [00:34] gfx driver issue? [00:34] szal: that was my thought [00:34] SIR_Taco: what card? [00:35] szal: not my card, it's PythonSnake's card... Intel I believe [00:35] no friggin' idea about Intel [00:35] :( [00:35] as far as I gather, Intel gfx is an utter mess anyway [00:37] Found ! [00:38] SIR_Taco: rekonq crashed when I go to "http://design.canonical.com/2010/07/the-ubuntu-font/" [00:38] strange [00:38] :\ [00:39] PythonSnake: that site is pure HTML, nothing fancy embedded, afaics [00:40] maybe reqonq doesn't like the new font set feature... but that doesn't figure out the rest [00:40] ... [00:41] SIR_Taco: Jumping in late, but if video is suspected, has PythonSnake disabled some/all of the Desktop Effects and see what happens then? [00:42] PythonSnake: hmm, your computer is seriously broken... I have that page opened in rekonq right now... even on Interl graphic crap [00:43] Intel, indeed :) [00:43] seriously broken ? [00:43] :( [00:43] BATi: Also here. Rekonq running on Kubuntu 11.04 64-bit with an Intel Graphics chip. Works fine. [00:43] Snowhog: no idea... I'm stumped [00:44] Snowhog: yup, same specs... only KDE SC updated to 4.6.4 [00:44] BATi: KDE 4.6.4 here also. [00:45] how to check kde version ? [00:45] PythonSnake: Do you by chance, have the Blur Desktop Effect enabled? On an Intel GPU, at least on mine, Blur doesn't work, and I have it unchecked. [00:45] PythonSnake: look in any KDE app's Help menu [00:46] PythonSnake: or run 'kwin --version' [00:46] blur ? [00:46] how to check ? [00:47] I got 4.6.2 ! [00:47] PythonSnake: System Settings > Desktop Effectes > All Effects tab. [00:47] iow, 11.04 default [00:47] lol... [00:48] desktop effects are disabled [00:48] PythonSnake: Okay, eliminates that as a 'possible' contributor. [00:48] PythonSnake: You might want to giver serious consideration to upgrading KDE to 4.6.4 [00:48] ? [00:49] how ? [00:49] PythonSnake: 'how' is not relevant, as Blur (or any Desktop Effects) isn't enabled. [00:49] PythonSnake: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa [00:50] Snowhog: how to upgrade [00:50] PythonSnake: szal gave you the link. [00:51] hmm dont have working browser.. [00:51] PythonSnake: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ppa <- to be precise [00:51] PythonSnake: You can install Firefox. The installer is in the K Menu. [00:52] PythonSnake: if all else fails -> w3m on the terminal, enough to read text [00:52] Snowhog: firefox locks up on him too.... that's where the "hmmmm" comes from [00:52] doesn't seg-fault... just locks [00:52] ugh [00:53] I right clicked and removed something now taskbar is on the top how to reset ? [00:53] short version -> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [00:53] PythonSnake: In a console type: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [00:53] szal: :) [00:53] Snowhog: no need to dist-upgrade [00:54] szal: I alwasy use dist-upgrade as it inteligently handles dependencies, adding/removing as required. uprade does not. [00:54] * szal uses aptitude ;) [00:55] * Snowhog does all package management via the console using apt-get [00:56] apt was deprecated by Debian a while ago, so I chose to go w/ aptitude [00:57] szal: Maybe so, but apt is still very much alive. ;) [00:57] szal: YOU were depreciated a whie ago! (kidding of course) :) [00:58] lol [00:58] upgrading [00:58] :) [01:00] PythonSnake: When it's completed, and this is what I do, perform a shutdown/restart and when logged back in to the desktop, open a console and repeat: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. Yes, I know, but I do it anyway. My systems have always been trouble free. [01:01] ok [01:05] hmm [01:06] I just came from gnome [01:06] so I used a command to delete gnome and stuff [01:06] how to completly delete them ? [01:06] cuz I've found some running proccess of them [01:09] !purekde [01:09] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [01:12] ok [01:13] Snowhog: I can't view youtube videos it's black [01:13] is there a repository/page that will generate a kernel cfg based upon the results from 'lspci -n' [01:17] PythonSnake: That will almost certainly be a Flash issue. Is your CPU 64-bit? [01:17] no. [01:18] PythonSnake: Install via KPackagekit kubuntu-restricted-extras and kubuntu-restricted-addons [01:19] ok [01:21] PythonSnake: As to removing all Ubuntu stuff, assuming you installed kubuntu-desktop, see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde [01:22] tried that [01:23] I'm sorry, but I fail to see how removing all traces of GTK would help the problem? [01:23] ugh sorry i gtg [01:23] SIR_Taco: Not to solve the browser problem - PythonSnake want's a pure KDE system now. [01:23] thanks for the help [01:24] take care [01:24] Snowhog: still... how are hardware accel problems going to be helped with removing Gnome? [01:25] SIR_Taco: We are past that as far as I can tell. The upgrade to KDE 4.6.4 likely fixed his problem with that I think. [01:25] Snowhog: sorry... I missed the bit about the KDE system :) [01:26] SIR_Taco: You're forgiven. :) [01:26] serves me right for being busy, haha [01:27] Is anyone seeing any issues with the kubuntu ppa's? I seem to be getting a 404 a few of the natty directories [01:30] cdunlap: are you using the main servers? or the local ones? [01:31] Here are a couple of the failed fetch's: [01:31] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [01:31] W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu/ppa/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [01:32] not sure if that helps or not [01:32] cdunlap: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [01:32] I see from the floodbotk1 message that I shouldn't have done that. My apologies [01:33] cdunlap: not a problem.... what do you use to update? PackageKit? [01:34] apt-get mainly [01:35] from the command line [01:35] do you have kpackagekit installed? [01:36] doesn't look like it [01:36] or I guess you could run, in a console: "sudo software-properties-kde" [01:37] I will pull the kpackagekit down rq [01:38] shouldn't need it... should be able to do the "sudo software-properties-kde" without it I believe [01:38] that brought up the software sources menu [01:39] showing download from: server from canda [01:39] oops... canada [01:39] cdunlap: and you're in Canada? [01:39] no, can't even spell it, I am in the US [01:39] I just changed it to the main server [01:40] Main server is massively faster and we're near Toronto :) [01:40] sorry about the misspell [01:40] cdunlap: I am :) ... yes you can try the main server... or you can click the drop-down list and select "Other..." and either pick your server, or click the "Select Best Server" Button [01:41] I will give that a shot and see what happens. [01:42] I wish it would do a "Select best server" automatically when you're first installing Kubuntu... [01:42] Rather than just base it on your timezone [01:42] Bugsbane: that's a very good point [01:42] Thankyou, sir :) [01:43] I'll add that to my list :) [01:43] \o/ [01:43] it picked one at Michigan State. I appreciate the informatin [01:43] good lord, I can't spell anything. See I am an equal opportunity misspeller [01:45] actually it is still giving me the same errors [01:45] I will try the main server and try my luck [01:48] cdunlap: that's odd [01:49] the Toronto one works for me... but I'm only a couple hours from Toronto [01:49] how do i select/highlight more than one entry when i'm doing 'make xconfig' [01:50] I am seeing the same issue regardless of the server. [01:51] I am also seeing an error in the console "Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-cldunlap" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0." [01:51] cdunlap: you're updating using "sudo"? [01:51] I am, yes [01:51] ok [01:51] and not misspelling it either [01:52] ;) [01:53] cdunlap: this should fix it, I would think: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1080625 [01:57] I did the chown and it is the same issue [01:59] can I just delete the /var/tmp/kdecache-cdunlap dir? [01:59] will it rebuild when I reboot? Maybe? [01:59] on reboot it should yes [01:59] but might cause problems before you reboot [02:00] ok, I will be back.... hopefully [02:05] same issues after blowing it away and rebooting [02:06] I am going to try removing the ppa and re-adding it but I don't think it will help [02:12] that seems to have removed the errors [02:14] cdunlap: excellent [02:14] Thanks for all your help Sir_Taco [02:14] I appreciate it [02:14] you're welcome [02:20] I'm on kubuntu using a live-CD for my first look at an ubuntu distro. Nice so far, but I'm trying to install gtk-pod and it's not working. I have tried "sudo apt-get install gtkpod" fails "unable to locate package gtkpod [02:25] any tips on how to install gtkpod? [02:25] CarrySomething: is your LiveCD connected to the internet? [02:25] Linkmaster: yes sir it is [02:26] Also, do note that LiveCD's shouldn't be used as an actual OS..there are a LOT of dependencies or gtkpod that are not included in the LiveCD. [02:28] can anyone help troubleshoot a sound issue? [02:28] Linkmaster: right... Like I said, I'm just testing this out. I've got another distro actually installed I just wanted to 'testdrive' this [02:29] Linkmaster: I just need to see if gtkpod will work [02:29] gtkpod works on Kubuntu, iirc [02:29] !audio | uberdub [02:29] uberdub: If you're having problems with sound see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [02:29] Linkmaster: That's great.. how do I installit [02:30] yeah I may not have looked at those exact pages, but Ive been searching on it for days [02:30] My laptop crashed while booting and now it wont load. I used the install cd to get to the files i need to save, but they wont copy to the thumbdrive. Can someone help? [02:30] CarrySomething: I don't have a pod, but I believe its in the repos, you'll just need to install kubu first [02:31] kubu? [02:32] It was working fine, until automatic updates, then it would go out, and Id have to reboot, eventually rebooting didnt fix it [02:33] Kubuntu [02:34] you can't test it under the live cd? (you can w/ "Mint" and a few others) [02:34] ubottu: Ive been to those pages, still cant figure it out [02:34] uberdub: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [02:34] oh, wth [02:34] lame [02:35] CarrySomething: someone else might know, but I've used the LiveCD only three times; twice to install, once to reinstall GRUB onto my computer :P [02:39] well thanks. not sure why you answered then [02:40] Does anyone know how to fix a grub? [02:44] * szal last used a *buntu live CD in 2007 or something [02:44] The computer crashed because of a bad battery just as it was logging in. I keep getting errors when i try to boot from the hard drive. I can see my files on dolphin but I can't get to them because i have to use the cd to boot. Can someone help me get the computer to boot on its own? [02:50] anya: Do you have more specific errors it gives when booting from the hard drive? [02:51] it was like drdy errors [02:52] genii-around: It would go to the screen that has the recovery option, and run for while with drdy errors. then while the screen was still black with the cursor, it would stop with somethng called busybox. [02:52] genii-around: then nothing would happen. [03:04] need.... to finish... brother's... website... [03:04] genii-around: Sorry. I am not much help. [03:08] anya: sounds like grub crapped out...... you should be able to recover it from a live-cd [03:09] SIR_Taco: How do I do this? [03:09] SIR_Taco: I have the Live CD up. [03:10] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 is a nice little walk-through... be sure to read the first post in it's entirety [03:14] Ok. Thank you. [03:14] you're welcome... let me know if it works well for you [03:15] can anyone help troubleshoot a sound issue? [03:15] it just stopped working [03:15] SIR_Taco: The person who put Kubuntu on my laptop put the home file in a separate partition. Will my files be safe? [03:16] anya: I hate to say yes... but generally yes [03:16] uberdub: what's the the problem? [03:16] sudo apt-get install gtkpod [03:16] Any idea why that says unable to locate package? [03:17] SIR_Taco: Thank you for your honesty. [03:17] anya: well... with most things... anything *could* happen :) [03:19] CarrySomething: do you have "Untrusted/Unsupported PPAs" enabled? [03:19] SIR_Taco: I'm new to kub. how would I know/check [03:23] CarrySomething: you can get to the option in settings in the package manager you use (usually), or my lazy shortcut is: ALT-F2 and type "kdesudo software-properties-kde" then click the "Updates" tab, and check the "unsupported updates" checkbox, then OK/Apply/Close or whatever it is at the bottom [03:28] CarrySomething: work? [03:30] SIR_Taco: No.. but I poked around that "Softwar sources" think and enabled "Community-maintained..." that did it [03:30] :) [03:30] CarrySomething: ah, well I figured it was one of them, good to hear [03:31] Thanks much.. you got me headed in the correct direction and that's what counts [03:31] CarrySomething: you're very welcome [03:32] uberdub: haven't heard a peep from you about your sound problem.... (pun intended) [03:32] my apologies [03:33] SIR_Taco: it just stopped working after an update [03:33] hmm now it won't import :( [03:33] it had been giving me problems for a while, but a reboot used to fix it [03:33] CarrySomething: I can't help you with that I'm afraid... [03:34] uberdub: just a normal update? or and upgrade to a new version of Kubuntu? [03:34] SIR_Taco: everything seems to be in order. card recognized, levels up, etc [03:34] normal update [03:34] Im in 11.04 natty [03:35] uberdub: ok... and you were on 11.04 before and the sound was fine, and now the sound doesn't work? (just trying to get a background ) [03:35] Ive tried reinstalling alsa, and pulseaudio [03:36] yeah I migrated from slackware, because slack didnt seem to like my gpu [03:36] straight to 11.04 [03:37] uberdub: do you have a soundcard on your motherboard and use a different sound card in a pci slot? [03:38] no, its a netbook. HP mini 311 100nr, with some aftermarket network hardware [03:38] nvidia ion [03:38] ok [03:38] custom bios [03:39] Ive ran across some bug reports on launchpad with audio, and my hardware [03:39] but it was working fine [03:39] in 11.04 [03:39] if you click the "K" menu -> Computer -> System Settings -> Multimedia -> Phonon.... does your output show there? [03:41] yes internal audio digital stereo(hdmi) [03:41] some other greyed out too [03:42] uberdub: you have an HDMI cable going to your speakers? [03:42] no internal speakers in the netbook [03:42] headphones dont work either [03:42] I can hear them connect like white noise or something when I plug them into the headphone jack though fwiw [03:43] is there one along the lines of "Internal Audio Analog?" [03:43] yeah [03:43] its grayed out [03:43] the only un-grayed out option you have it hdmi? [03:44] yes SIR [03:44] :) [03:45] how about opening konsole and typing "alsamixer"? does it show the analog one? [03:46] might have to hit "F6" and select the sound card.... just want to make sure they're not all muted [03:46] Card: HDA NVidia Chip: Nvidia MCP79/7A HDMI [03:46] I say "sound card", but really it's the output... a sound card can have many outputs [03:46] nothing is muted [03:47] yeah shows as HDA nvidia [03:47] hitting F6 gives you options, or no? [03:47] options are default, or hda nvidia [03:47] ok... and all the options are not muted? [03:48] correct [03:48] Ive checked that a few times [03:48] uberdub: ok, I have to assume that you know little or nothing when it comes to Linux :) [03:49] no worries, I appreciate the help [03:50] uberdub: what about righ-clicking the volume icon in your system tray and selecting "Select Master Channel"? Do you have more than one option? [03:50] nope same [03:51] ok... back in the System Settings -> Multimedia ->Phonon... what's listed when you click the "Backend" tab? [03:52] gstreamer [03:53] uberdub: ok, it's definitely a hardware/driver problem as far as I'm concerned.... [03:54] ok....any fix or workaround? [03:54] well that's the big question I guess [03:54] have you updated lately? [03:54] not since tha last one afaik [03:54] Ive tried reinstalling the modules [03:55] using synaptic [03:55] uberdub: you shouldn't have to use insmod/modprobe etc. [03:55] ah ok [03:56] nah didnt use modprobe [03:56] ahh the luxuries of *ubuntu [03:56] :) [03:56] uberdub: lol... yes... :P [03:56] this ones got me stumped though [03:57] uberdub: have you done an "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in a terminal lately? [03:57] yeah [03:57] couple times [03:57] uberdub: it has me stumped too... [03:57] its been broke for over a week now [03:57] maybe a bug [03:58] did the kernel version change perhaps when the problem came about? [03:58] dont think so [03:58] Ive been thinking about upgrading to a newer kernel [03:58] uberdub: do you use Grub? [03:58] uh yes, but its all automated [03:58] i dont dual boot [03:58] pure linux [03:58] ah ok [03:59] I use nothing else [03:59] but you should be able to hold the "shift" key, to get a grub menu, yes? [03:59] yeah [03:59] I can get to a prompt too [03:59] would it still list old kernels? [03:59] uh...I think so [04:00] it should [04:00] Haave you tried the old kernel(s) to see if the sound still works? [04:00] hmm last time it gave me recovery options, but i dont think it gave me a different kernel [04:00] I did filesystem check, and all that everything clean [04:00] it should give you atleast 2 options... unless it was changed [04:01] no bad packages [04:01] yeah [04:01] I really think it's a bad kernel driver [04:02] uberdub@TerrapinStation:~/Documents$ uname -a [04:02] Linux TerrapinStation 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [04:02] hmmmm, sounds feasible [04:02] how to confirm? [04:02] uberdub: 3.0-1-generic #2-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jun 15 20:28:47 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [04:03] you running 3.0? [04:03] stable? [04:03] if you can hold "shift" on boot, and select and old(er) kernel, to see if it works, then you know that 2.6.38-8 isn't working for you [04:03] ok [04:04] uberdub: it's stable for me.... doesn't mean it's stable for everyone [04:04] right [04:05] this may or may not pertain to me: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/788817 [04:05] Ubuntu bug 788817 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[Aspire R3610, Nvidia MCP79/7A HDMI, Digital Out, HDMI] No sound at all" [Undecided,Incomplete] [04:06] uberdub: Yes, but I can see that being passed off to a regression in the kernel... [04:06] ahhh [04:07] Im gonna check grub, on next restart [04:07] I remember it had a few options [04:08] uberdub: with your symptoms, I would say it's a hardware regression [04:08] hmmm, Im not exactly sure what you mean by hardware regression [04:10] driver regression is probably more like it... the hardware worked, now it doesn't.... and doesn't even show up as hardware.... driver problem [04:10] ahhh [04:10] hmmm [04:11] would running a different kernel fix it you think? [04:11] damn driver compatibility, and linux [04:11] bah [04:12] uberdub: it could, which is why I was suggesting holding your shift key and selecting an older kernel to see if it solved the problem [04:12] just when I thought I had it all sorted [04:12] ok will do [04:12] life without tests would just be blah :) [04:13] I got kids running around the living room right now, thats a little more attention than I can give atm [04:13] Im gonne reboot here in a few [04:13] uberdub: not a problem, whenever you can [04:15] I'm not going to sit here an ask:"Have you rebooted yet? Have you rebooted yet? Have you rebooted yet? Have you rebooted yet?" like a car trip :P [04:15] lol [04:16] ok, gonna reboot now [04:16] haha ok [04:16] have you rebooted yet? [04:16] the chaos has subsided [04:16] lol [04:16] lol [04:16] SIR_Taco: Natty didn't get any kernel updates yet, to my knowledge [04:17] yeah, I didnt think so, but not 100% [04:17] or at least I haven't seen any yet the 4 weeks I'm on Natty now [04:17] szal: well then what would cause an audio driver going AWOL? [04:19] SIR_Taco: no friggin' idea.. but nVidia sound modules seem to be somewhat problematic anyway; I've had an issue w/ one 2 years ago in Arch Linux when, after a kernel update (in that case it was one) the device wouldn't even be recognized any more [04:19] and I couldn't even make it reappear by rolling back the kernel [04:20] yeah it recognizes it [04:20] szal: odd, but it's worth a shot [04:20] uberdub: it works? [04:20] no, but the device does show up [04:21] was waiting to see szal's responses before I reboot [04:21] uberdub: ok, now if you play with the settings a bit, it should give you sound [04:21] one minute rebooting for sure now [04:21] so it works without changing kernels? lol [04:21] uberdub: only suggestion I can give you is pay a visit to #alsa [04:21] no [04:22] the device is recognized in system settings, but I dont get sound [04:22] going to reboot now, and try the grub thing [04:22] bbiaf [04:22]