[00:37] that's very disappointing [00:38] I did suspect something was wrong when they didn't hire you, Pendulum [00:38] or make charlie-tca full-time a11y [00:38] or something [01:32] valorie: charlie-tca isn't a Canonical employee. TheMuso is and they've contracted work out to API, but that's it for people getting paid to work on a11y for Unity/Ubuntu as far as I know [01:33] it's slightly more complicated in that I know a lot of the Unity devels who aren't specifically a11y have worked on aspects of it, but AFAIK there is no one being paid to coordinate/work on a11y fulltime [01:35] One of the biggest problems with unity and a11y IMO is the constantly changing state of unity itself. [01:35] Unity-2d has been better for the most part, since unity-2d uses QT, and QT a11y is coming along swimmingly. [01:35] So there is no constantly changing frameworks underlying unity-2d to be affected. [01:36] However, there are several bugs I filed against unity-2d for a11y issues that have yet to be fixed. [01:36] are you working with fregl on those? [01:37] valorie: They are not QT issues, they are to do with unity-2d itself. [01:37] ah [01:37] Personally, I feel I could focus much more on a11y if I was doing a11y full time, but that is currently not the case. [01:37] I wish I had time to be more of an advocate/tester/etc. [01:38] it's so important [01:39] AlanBell: Oneiric has some new functionality in ubiquity that now allows us to launch profiles from the first installer screen. [01:39] This works, but playing a sound at that screen still appears to be broken, something I need to fix. [01:39] I also haven't widely announced it, and the orca install test instructions will need to be updated. [01:39] Beta 2 should have a much better experience. [07:53] TheMuso: so will it still display access.pcx in gfxboot and expect you to hit a key when you see it? [08:33] AlanBell: None of that has changed. [08:33] AlanBell: So I guess long term, we should completely ditch the accessibility options in gfxboot. [08:34] so with the ubiquity stuff can you just put the disk in, leave it for sufficient time then hit a key to start orca? [08:35] I don't mind a lack of a beep if it will sit there forever [08:35] the problem is hitting a key in a small time window with no audio cue === API is now known as Guest88782 === Guest88782 is now known as apinheiro [18:49] well my attempts to do the orca install are not going well [18:50] it wouldn't start ubiquity properly, when selecting the screen reader profile [18:51] now installing with eyes and will try just getting around the desktop with orca [22:51] http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/k2nvl/we_are_the_ubuntu_unity_development_team_we_3/c2h40a8 [22:51] \o/ \o/ [23:02] :) [23:06] * AlanBell should really go to bed now [23:06] night all o/